Full Version: The threat to World Peace is growing day by day.
The neighbors of China do not form some of mutual support structure, they are in for some very deep trouble from china, as China has land claims over Japan, Vietnam, India, Mongolia and Russia. China may be a phony Super Power but its huge Army and weaponry are a bitter and sad reality to all its neighbors. China has already attacked India, Vietnam, Philippines and former USSR. Now with more money and weapons at its disposal, it is a greater threat to its neighbors and to world peace. How can China unilaterally control the Southeast Sea without United Nations and diplomatic acknowledgment that the area belongs to China?
im so scared...buuuhooo
Chinese are even too dumb to form a mutual East Asian support structure, so why worry about their enemies failure lol
Its so-called expansionism and imperialism of China for thousand of years
QUOTE (matigasngulo @ Sep 20 2010, 07:25 AM) 
Chinese are even too dumb to form a mutual East Asian support structure, so why worry about their enemies failure lol
Are you TOO DUMB to understand why?
QUOTE (Attention @ Sep 20 2010, 12:02 PM)
Are you TOO DUMB to understand why?
Because they don't want to
China expansion plan
More recently, China has arrested and ramming Vietnamese fishermen, issued threats against Vietnam oil companies operating in Vietnamese waters, ramped up naval exercises and established a submarine base on Hainan island. Also in dispute are the Spratly islands. The area straddles busy sea lanes and is estimated by China to hold oil and natural gas reserves of 17.7bn tonnes.
More recently, China has arrested and ramming Vietnamese fishermen, issued threats against Vietnam oil companies operating in Vietnamese waters, ramped up naval exercises and established a submarine base on Hainan island. Also in dispute are the Spratly islands. The area straddles busy sea lanes and is estimated by China to hold oil and natural gas reserves of 17.7bn tonnes.
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At the Association of Southeast Asian Nations Regional Forum meeting in July, Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi's jaw-dropping lecture to Asian ministers -- and the U.S. secretary of state -- that other countries were obstreperous to contest China's unilateral claim to international waters and island chains in the South China Sea still rankles with leaders who were present. Particularly galling, according to the foreign minister of one major power at the meeting, was Foreign Minister Yang's reminder that Southeast Asian states were "small countries" who depended on trade with China for their prosperity, while China was a "large country." There was therefore little chance of equality in their relations, Yang suggested. China's neighbors simply would have to take that asymmetry -- and, he added pointedly, their economic dependence on the China market -- into account before "internationalizing" their dispute with Beijing over competing maritime claims.
QUOTE (asaiofinest @ Sep 22 2010, 04:29 AM)
China expansion plan
More recently, China has arrested and ramming Vietnamese fishermen, issued threats against Vietnam oil companies operating in Vietnamese waters, ramped up naval exercises and established a submarine base on Hainan island. Also in dispute are the Spratly islands. The area straddles busy sea lanes and is estimated by China to hold oil and natural gas reserves of 17.7bn tonnes.
More recently, China has arrested and ramming Vietnamese fishermen, issued threats against Vietnam oil companies operating in Vietnamese waters, ramped up naval exercises and established a submarine base on Hainan island. Also in dispute are the Spratly islands. The area straddles busy sea lanes and is estimated by China to hold oil and natural gas reserves of 17.7bn tonnes.
And don't forget to reuniting China-Vietnam-Korea-Japan-Mongolia.
A Beijing Backlash
Over the past two weeks, all of Asia watched with alarm as China forced Japan to back down in a maritime dispute by downgrading diplomatic ties, and tolerating if not encouraging public street protest against Tokyo as well as halting shipments of critical industrial metals to Japan. The face-off symbolizes Beijing’s new attitude: once officially committed to rising peacefully in cooperation with its neighbors, China now seems determined to show its neighbors—and the United States—that it has growing military and economic interests that other countries ignore at their peril.
the Chinese Navy has harassed American and Japanese vessels sailing in Asian waters. And Beijing has largely stonewalled complaints by countries in mainland Southeast Asia that new Chinese dams on the upper portions of the Mekong River are diverting water and hurting the livelihood of downstream fishermen and farmers. China also has harshly condemned joint U.S.-South Korean naval exercises, and applied growing pressure on Southeast Asian nations to jettison even their informal relations with Taiwan, which once had extremely close ties to countries like Singapore and the Philippines.
China of Mao Zedong’s years, when it backed the genocidal Khmer Rouge and insurgents in Burma, among other causes. This softly-softly approach reaped rewards. Beijing inked a free-trade agreement with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations that came into effect earlier this year and helped make Beijing one of the leading trading partners of nearly every country in the region. In the late 1990s and early 2000s China upgraded its role in Asia’s regional organizations, including ASEAN, and shifted the focus of its relationship with India, the other emerging giant, from old hostilities to new commercial links, including partnerships between India’s world-leading information-technology firms and their Chinese peers. The region’s diplomats praised China’s consensus-building approach, and its sharp contrast to the “with us or against us” style of the George W. Bush administration.
Over the past two weeks, all of Asia watched with alarm as China forced Japan to back down in a maritime dispute by downgrading diplomatic ties, and tolerating if not encouraging public street protest against Tokyo as well as halting shipments of critical industrial metals to Japan. The face-off symbolizes Beijing’s new attitude: once officially committed to rising peacefully in cooperation with its neighbors, China now seems determined to show its neighbors—and the United States—that it has growing military and economic interests that other countries ignore at their peril.
the Chinese Navy has harassed American and Japanese vessels sailing in Asian waters. And Beijing has largely stonewalled complaints by countries in mainland Southeast Asia that new Chinese dams on the upper portions of the Mekong River are diverting water and hurting the livelihood of downstream fishermen and farmers. China also has harshly condemned joint U.S.-South Korean naval exercises, and applied growing pressure on Southeast Asian nations to jettison even their informal relations with Taiwan, which once had extremely close ties to countries like Singapore and the Philippines.
China of Mao Zedong’s years, when it backed the genocidal Khmer Rouge and insurgents in Burma, among other causes. This softly-softly approach reaped rewards. Beijing inked a free-trade agreement with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations that came into effect earlier this year and helped make Beijing one of the leading trading partners of nearly every country in the region. In the late 1990s and early 2000s China upgraded its role in Asia’s regional organizations, including ASEAN, and shifted the focus of its relationship with India, the other emerging giant, from old hostilities to new commercial links, including partnerships between India’s world-leading information-technology firms and their Chinese peers. The region’s diplomats praised China’s consensus-building approach, and its sharp contrast to the “with us or against us” style of the George W. Bush administration.
QUOTE (asaiofinest @ Sep 13 2010, 10:59 PM)
The neighbors of China do not form some of mutual support structure, they are in for some very deep trouble from china, as China has land claims over Japan, Vietnam, India, Mongolia and Russia. China may be a phony Super Power but its huge Army and weaponry are a bitter and sad reality to all its neighbors. China has already attacked India, Vietnam, Philippines and former USSR. Now with more money and weapons at its disposal, it is a greater threat to its neighbors and to world peace. How can China unilaterally control the Southeast Sea without United Nations and diplomatic acknowledgment that the area belongs to China?
Contrary to your limited global geopolitics knowledge, China's size and rapid economic growth only speed up their ascension to become a responsible global player. To continue its economic growth, China needs a stable and friendly environment to nurture that process, thus China is more likely to create a more balance and peaceful global environment. But by all means, that doesn't mean China will by any means be "SOFT" on its core interest or territorial sovereignty
You mean China is a threat to world peace, or threat to US supremacy in China's own backyard? Last time I checked, US army has presence everywhere around China, and if China was to at least fight back say Japan, an american ally, it then was accused of being aggressive? Last time I checked, China don't have naval/military bases circling USA and then accused USA of being aggressive.
Do you know China is literally sealed off by First island Chain made up of US allies for decades? Do you know for a country as huge as China it barely flex its muscles on Seas? For the past few decades it has always been US and Japanese playground, of course people are wary that China is entering the picture and sharing the slices with them. Of course, China is also conveniently labelled the "aggressor" by other aggressor
So when is the invasion to liberate Kingdom of Ryukyu to start
QUOTE (Attention @ Oct 9 2010, 12:45 PM)
Contrary to your limited global geopolitics knowledge, China's size and rapid economic growth only speed up their ascension to become a responsible global player. To continue its economic growth, China needs a stable and friendly environment to nurture that process, thus China is more likely to create a more balance and peaceful global environment. But by all means, that doesn't mean China will by any means be "SOFT" on its core interest or territorial sovereignty
You mean China is a threat to world peace, or threat to US supremacy in China's own backyard? Last time I checked, US army has presence everywhere around China, and if China was to at least fight back say Japan, an american ally, it then was accused of being aggressive? Last time I checked, China don't have naval/military bases circling USA and then accused USA of being aggressive.
Do you know China is literally sealed off by First island Chain made up of US allies for decades? Do you know for a country as huge as China it barely flex its muscles on Seas? For the past few decades it has always been US and Japanese playground, of course people are wary that China is entering the picture and sharing the slices with them. Of course, China is also conveniently labelled the "aggressor" by other aggressor
You mean China is a threat to world peace, or threat to US supremacy in China's own backyard? Last time I checked, US army has presence everywhere around China, and if China was to at least fight back say Japan, an american ally, it then was accused of being aggressive? Last time I checked, China don't have naval/military bases circling USA and then accused USA of being aggressive.
Do you know China is literally sealed off by First island Chain made up of US allies for decades? Do you know for a country as huge as China it barely flex its muscles on Seas? For the past few decades it has always been US and Japanese playground, of course people are wary that China is entering the picture and sharing the slices with them. Of course, China is also conveniently labelled the "aggressor" by other aggressor
You are very funnies, your comment it does not form any basic at all..
QUOTE (asaiofinest @ Oct 9 2010, 12:36 PM)
You are very funnies, your comment it does not form any basic at all..
To be honest, wasn't expecting you to comprehend it.
We are at war with China today, economically. Chinese goods will be replaced by Vietnam and Asean goods or those of other countries; and the loss will be China's, not Vietnam's. Vietnam can live without Chinese goods, and will do so if this is in the best interests of the Vietnam and Asean.
QUOTE (asaiofinest @ Oct 9 2010, 06:28 PM)
We are at war with China today, economically. Chinese goods will be replaced by Vietnam and Asean goods or those of other countries; and the loss will be China's, not Vietnam's. Vietnam can live without Chinese goods, and will do so if this is in the best interests of the Vietnam and Asean.
Yes, when China transformed its economy to high end industry, eventually Vietnam and ASEAN will replace Chinese role in producing cheap goods. Contrary to your belief, Chinese themselves are building manufacturing plants in Vietnam and elsewhere in SE Asia to combat tariff on Chinese goods.
Like I once said on this pathetic sub-forum filled with Viet imbeciles, there are many Vietnam out there for China, there aren't many China out there for Vietnam.
QUOTE (Attention @ Oct 9 2010, 08:33 PM)
Yes, when China transformed its economy to high end industry, eventually Vietnam and ASEAN will replace Chinese role in producing cheap goods. Contrary to your belief, Chinese themselves are building manufacturing plants in Vietnam and elsewhere in SE Asia to combat tariff on Chinese goods.
Like I once said on this pathetic sub-forum filled with Viet imbeciles, there are many Vietnam out there for China, there aren't many China out there for Vietnam.
Like I once said on this pathetic sub-forum filled with Viet imbeciles, there are many Vietnam out there for China, there aren't many China out there for Vietnam.
The United States has assisted Vietnam with military training and officer education against China!
NEVER LISTEN TO (Attention cho tua hahahaha)Dog Han likes to post a lot of crap about Vietnam's with only delusions to back him up.
QUOTE (asaiofinest @ Oct 11 2010, 12:27 AM)
The United States has assisted Vietnam with military training and officer education against China!
NEVER LISTEN TO (Attention cho tua hahahaha)Dog Han likes to post a lot of crap about Vietnam's with only delusions to back him up.
NEVER LISTEN TO (Attention cho tua hahahaha)Dog Han likes to post a lot of crap about Vietnam's with only delusions to back him up.
What do you expect me to say? I'm scared or something?
We should instead listen to a man who proudly claim his country will be the top dog in SE Sea? So you're pissed other is the top dog, but sure aren't shy about claiming yourselves as one.
When I first saw the title, I just feel "what?! vietnam can threaten the world?"(although some SEA countries has already claimed vietnam has threatened the peace of SEA region".
But after I read the whole post, I finally understand "dog can not forget its master".
But after I read the whole post, I finally understand "dog can not forget its master".
Tuesday among Asian neighbors jittery over its recent attempts to assert greater control over disputed waters, while its rival Washington stressed its national interest in keeping those seas free for commerce.
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the U.S. has a stake in the growing number of disputes about ownership of Asian island chains and ship routes through waters China claims.
"We have a national interest in freedom of navigation, in unimpeded economic development and commerce and in respect for international law," Gates told a regional security forum of defense ministers in the Vietnamese capital.
The message was strong and the audience unmistakable, but Gates avoided a direct confrontation with China. He never mentioned the country by name during a brief address to the group of security ministers, which included a top Chinese general.
China's claim to control water far off its coastline that the United States considers open water under international law. He also was reaffirming U.S. support for Southeast Asian nations that feel threatened by China and want U.S. backing even as they try to maintain cordial relations with their much larger Asian neighbor.
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the U.S. has a stake in the growing number of disputes about ownership of Asian island chains and ship routes through waters China claims.
"We have a national interest in freedom of navigation, in unimpeded economic development and commerce and in respect for international law," Gates told a regional security forum of defense ministers in the Vietnamese capital.
The message was strong and the audience unmistakable, but Gates avoided a direct confrontation with China. He never mentioned the country by name during a brief address to the group of security ministers, which included a top Chinese general.
China's claim to control water far off its coastline that the United States considers open water under international law. He also was reaffirming U.S. support for Southeast Asian nations that feel threatened by China and want U.S. backing even as they try to maintain cordial relations with their much larger Asian neighbor.
QUOTE (tianya @ Oct 11 2010, 09:48 AM)
When I first saw the title, I just feel "what?! vietnam can threaten the world?"(although some SEA countries has already claimed vietnam has threatened the peace of SEA region".
But after I read the whole post, I finally understand "dog can not forget its master".
But after I read the whole post, I finally understand "dog can not forget its master".
US never help Chicom IN MILITARY. Only need cheap LABOR, (No C-130s for China Since China occupation in the Southeast Asia region) National Security Council spokesman Mike Hammer HAHAHAHA
Map World：China unveils own mapping service, as a means for propaganda.
This is the critical point. You'll notice that China owns Taiwan, the Senkaku Islands, the Paracels, the Spratlys, and basically the entire South China Sea, Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh are part of China now! according to them anyway.
This is the critical point. You'll notice that China owns Taiwan, the Senkaku Islands, the Paracels, the Spratlys, and basically the entire South China Sea, Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh are part of China now! according to them anyway.
QUOTE (asaiofinest @ Oct 13 2010, 11:06 PM)
US never help Chicom IN MILITARY. Only need cheap LABOR, (No C-130s for China Since China occupation in the Southeast Asia region) National Security Council spokesman Mike Hammer HAHAHAHA
US should help Vietnam instead, since inadequacy are always persistent in some shape or form throughout its existence.
While people live and adapt, I have my doubts about you. ^_^
It's all about politics son. At this point Vietnam is using America to beat up bully China and what's wrong with that Aahahahhahahaha!
QUOTE (asaiofinest @ Nov 2 2010, 12:18 AM)
It's all about politics son. At this point Vietnam is using America to beat up bully China and what's wrong with that Aahahahhahahaha!
Once again, China is always going to be next to Vietnam and US is not always going to be strong or "Supports" Vietnam
In the long run, you only have yourself to blame for your shortsightedness
QUOTE (lel @ Nov 3 2010, 02:05 AM)
Once again, China is always going to be next to Vietnam and US is not always going to be strong or "Supports" Vietnam
In the long run, you only have yourself to blame for your shortsightedness
In the long run, you only have yourself to blame for your shortsightedness
Obvious chicom troll is obvious. I hope you are making top yuan for your posts.
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all these comments are so lame. u know china is just upfront about its intentions unlike the west, so u should be glad. u know them already: south china sea (which frankly is only for survival not some imperial agenda), territorial integrity and NO MORE (china does NOT want to add more territories or annex more people because that will mean more destabilization. it's hands are already full with xinjiang, tibet, inner mongolia etc..), economic growth, modernization, PEACE.
this is the real china that everyone refuses to admit and loves to distort. what is the real america??? can u tell me THEIR intentions and agenda?? in all probabilities, people in washington or langley are proabbly chuckling heartily at these anti-china comments right now...divide-and-rule just never gets old...
this is the real china that everyone refuses to admit and loves to distort. what is the real america??? can u tell me THEIR intentions and agenda?? in all probabilities, people in washington or langley are proabbly chuckling heartily at these anti-china comments right now...divide-and-rule just never gets old...
QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Sep 12 2011, 09:28 PM)
all these comments are so lame. u know china is just upfront about its intentions unlike the west, so u should be glad. u know them already: south china sea (which frankly is only for survival not some imperial agenda), territorial integrity and NO MORE (china does NOT want to add more territories or annex more people because that will mean more destabilization. it's hands are already full with xinjiang, tibet, inner mongolia etc..), economic growth, modernization, PEACE.
this is the real china that everyone refuses to admit and loves to distort. what is the real america??? can u tell me THEIR intentions and agenda?? in all probabilities, people in washington or langley are proabbly chuckling heartily at these anti-china comments right now...divide-and-rule just never gets old...
this is the real china that everyone refuses to admit and loves to distort. what is the real america??? can u tell me THEIR intentions and agenda?? in all probabilities, people in washington or langley are proabbly chuckling heartily at these anti-china comments right now...divide-and-rule just never gets old...
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Obvious chicom troll is obvious. I hope you are making top yuan for your posts.
Chicom? The only people that use that word are 40 year old White men who work for the US agenda and jack off to kiddy porn.
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QUOTE (1800geico @ Sep 13 2011, 09:39 PM)
You're Iranian. You don't have a dog in this fight!
What's your angle? Lemme guess.
What's your angle? Lemme guess.
i'm just a commentator that's all. i don't want "dogs" to fight in OTHER people's business like the US.
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