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daxas24
He has done us proud.
Vietnam became the second country in Asia to get Fields Medal a.k.a. Mathematics Nobel after Japan

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Cách nay ít phút, giải thưởng Fields - được xem là giải "Nobel Toán học" - đă chính thức được Liên đoàn Toán học thế giới trao cho giáo sư Ngô Bảo Châu của Việt Nam.

Lễ trao được tổ chức tại Trung tâm Hội nghị quốc tế Hyderabad, thành phố Hyderabad - bang Andhra Pradesh (Ấn Độ) vào lúc 12 giờ 55 phút trưa nay.

Cả hội trường đă vang lên tiếng vỗ tay rào rạt khi các giải thưởng được trao.

ICM 2010 trở thành một sự kiện được mong chờ đặc biệt đối với người dân VN v́ gắn liền với tên tuổi và cơ hội giành được giải thưởng Fields của GS Ngô Bảo Châu.

ICM 2010 sẽ diễn ra liên tục từ ngày 19 đến 27-8 với sự tham dự của hàng ngàn nhà toán học tên tuổi đến từ khắp thế giới với nhiều hoạt động chuyên môn ở các tiểu ban khác nhau.

Tuy nhiên, sự kiện quan trọng nhất ở ICM 2010 chính là phiên khai mạc đă bắt đầu từ 11g hôm nay (giờ VN).

Tổng thống Ấn Độ Pratibha Patin đă tuyên bố khai mạc ICM 2010. Lúc này, tên của những người đoạt các giải thưởng đă có, song sẽ chính thức được xướng lên vào lúc 14g15 chiều nay.

Tổng thống Ấn Độ trao giải cho giáo sư Châu.
daxas24
We now have more reasons to celebrate 1000 years Thang Long - Ha Noi
Ngo Bao Chau is Hanoian
daxas24
Những thông tin đặc biệt về GS. Ngô Bảo Châu



Ngô Bảo Châu (sinh ngày 15/11/1972)

Đơn vị công tác: Giáo sư của cả 3 cơ quan: Viện nghiên cứu cao cấp IAS Princeton (Mỹ); Khoa toán Đại học tổng hợp Paris 11 và Viện toán học (Việt Nam).

1986-1989: Học sinh khối phổ thông chuyên Toán, ĐHTH Hà Nội.

1988: Huy chương vàng tại kỳ thi Olympic Toán quốc tế tại Úc (đạt điểm tuyệt đối 42/42)

1989: Huy chương vàng tại kỳ thi Olympic Toán quốc tế tại CHLB Đức (đạt điểm tuyệt đối 42/42)

1990-1991: Học tại ĐHTH Paris 6, Pháp

1992-1995: Học tiếp ĐH tại Trường sư phạm cấp cao Paris (ENS)

1993-1997: Làm nghiên cứu sinh tại ĐHTH Paris 11 với GS. G. Laumon. Bảo vệ luận án xuất sắc vào năm 1997.

1998-2004: Nghiên cứu viên của Trung tâm nghiên cứu quốc gia Pháp tại ĐHTH Paris 13.

2004: Bảo vệ tiến sĩ khoa học (Habilitation)

2004: Được trao Giải thưởng Toán học Clay (cùng với GS G.Laumon). Giải thưởng này có từ năm 1999, mới trao cho 23 người. Người đầu tiên được trao giải Clay chính là A.Wiles- người đă chứng minh được Định lư cuối cùng của Ferma tồn tại hơn 300 năm. Ngay sau khi được trao giải thưởng này, thầy của Ngô Bảo Châu là GS G.Laumon đă được bầu làm Viện sĩ Viện hàn lâm Pháp.

2004- nay: Giáo sư tại ĐHTH Paris 11 (Pháp)

2005: Được Hội đồng học hàm Giáo sư nhà nước Việt Nam phong đặc cách giáo sư.

2006: Được mời đọc báo cáo tiểu ban tại ĐH Toán học thế giới tại Madrid (Tây Ban Nha). Chỉ có chuyên gia hàng đầu trong chuyên ngành mới được mời báo cáo.

2007- nay: GS tại Viện nghiên cứu cao cấp (IAS) ở Princeton (Mỹ)

2007: Được trao Giải thưởng Oberwolfach của Đức. Cho tới nay mới có 8 nhà toán học được vinh dự này. Giải thưởng được tặng cho các nhà toán học trẻ của Châu Âu, 3 năm một lần.

2007: Được trao Giải thưởng của Viện Hàn lâm Pháp mang tên Sophie Germain. Giải này được trao hàng năm cho một nhà toán học Pháp.

2007- nay: GS đặc biệt tại Viện Toán học Việt Nam

2009: Công tŕnh "Le lemme fondamental pour les algèbres de Lie" (Bổ đề cơ bản cho đại số Lie) dày 169 trang của Ngô Bảo Châu đă được tạp chí Time b́nh chọn là một trong 10 phát minh khoa học tiêu biểu của năm 2009.

2010: Được mời đọc báo cáo tại phiên toàn thể của Đại hội Toán học thế giới tại Ấn Độ.

Từ tháng 9/2010: sẽ chuyển sang làm GS của ĐH Chicago (Mỹ)



Con gái GS Ngô Bảo Châu diện áo dài tới đại hội.

Đây không chỉ là niềm vinh dự đối với Việt Nam v́ lần đầu tiên có một người mang quốc tịch Việt Nam giành giải thưởng này, mà c̣n là niềm tự hào của Châu Á, v́ trước đó, có 3 Huy chương Fields đều thuộc về các nhà toán học mang quốc tịch Nhật Bản.

Trong lịch sử hơn 70 năm của giải Fields mới có 48 người được huy chương Fields.
JazzyQueen

Niem tu hao cua Vietnam, chuc mung giao su Ngo bao chau.
daxas24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOgXR4Hju28...player_embedded
Ngô Bảo Châu nhận giải Fields
VNCHero
Is he second son of Ngo Dinh Diem and Bao Dai?
bluecom
the second Asian country after Japan has Fields medal.


alot pics of Ngo Bao Chau:
http://www.google.com.vn/images?hl=vi&...280&bih=686

http://vnexpress.net/GL/Xa-hoi/2010/08/3BA1F70E/

viva Vietnam.

phobotaichin
QUOTE (VNCHero @ Aug 19 2010, 07:35 AM) *
Is he second son of Ngo Dinh Diem and Bao Dai?

embarassedlaugh.gif u mean they are gays?
bluecom
And this is a Fields Medalist:

United States 13
France 11
Russia/Russie 9
United Kingdom 6
Japan 3
Belgium 2
Finland 1
Israel 1
Italy 1
Norway 1
Vietnam 1
New Zealand 1
Sweden 1
Germany 1
Australia 1

And no india, no china, no others
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal
KraterosHellas
wow..that's a surprise. guess vietnamese are pretty smart. read.gif
XigonCongchua
So now the question should be "How are we going to effectively utilize our human capital to help our country develop to its full potential?"
minhphan
QUOTE (KraterosHellas @ Aug 19 2010, 11:35 AM) *
wow..that's a surprise. guess vietnamese are pretty smart. read.gif

Yes, Can you imagine a fifth grader in Vietnam could do Math 12th Grade in US ?
phobotaichin
^ true lol
XigonCongchua
But you got to admit that if he just stayed in Vietnam, if he didn't come to study in France, he wouldn't have achieved this. This honor should go to the French people as well.
FieryOFTheEast
But, still......YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Kaosq
Smart guy, makes me both proud and jealous at the same time.
MisterPopo
nice laugh.gif
daxas24

This is his mum
She looks so young. NBC is 38 now so she must be at least 60.
She's an associated professor as well.
daxas24
NBC's blog. His nickname on the site is "Ḥa Thượng Thích Học Toán", lol
He seems like a really cool and humble guy.
Most of my maths lecturers are just weirdos
Kaosq
I guess it runs in the family eh? Btw, if you think math professors are weird, try philosophy professors LOL.
formula1
He's such a inspirational person to myself. May your knowledge and achievements better mankind. You make Vietnamese like myself so proud!!!
asean.asia
Recently, there was a topic about xixon intelligent.

Now, I am starting to question ... is Ngo Bao Chau smarter than xixon? kiss.gif
grandpapa
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Từ những hăng thông tấn danh tiếng thế giới như AP, AFP, tờ Le Monde của Pháp,... đến những báo nhỏ, báo địa phương như TheWest, SHM, Asiafinest, Politifi... khi đưa tin về Đại hội ICM 2010 đều giật tít "người con đất Việt" giành vinh quang trong toán học hoặc Việt Nam đoạt Giải thưởng Fields.

Các báo đều nhắc lại thành công của GS Ngô Bảo Châu khi chứng minh thành công bộ đề cơ bản Langlands, công tŕnh đă được Time xếp vào danh sách một trong 10 phát minh khoa học tiêu biểu nhất thế giới năm 2009.

Hăng AFP b́nh luận vinh quang của nhà toán học gốc Việt có thể coi như giải Nobel về toán học, đánh dấu một hành tŕnh dài của anh từ thành phố Hà Nội bị tàn phá bởi chiến tranh đến danh sách đặc biệt của Time.


http://laodong.com.vn/tin-tuc/the-gioi-khe...-bao-chau/9994/
embarassedlaugh.gif
dulldull
QUOTE (bluecom @ Aug 19 2010, 08:30 AM) *
And this is a Fields Medalist:

United States 13
France 11
Russia/Russie 9
United Kingdom 6
Japan 3
Belgium 2
Finland 1
Israel 1
Italy 1
Norway 1
Vietnam 1
New Zealand 1
Sweden 1
Germany 1
Australia 1

And no india, no china, no others
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal


it seems that the new record results both from his talent, and the amendment on allowing dual nationality in 2008

his background is similar to another mathematician Shing-Tung Yau, the fields medal winner in 1982 who were born in Trieu Chau, raised up and finished his degree in Hong Kong, but his most important work was done in America. As China doesn't allow dual nationality, he retained his American one. Thanks to the amendenment in 2008 in Vietnam that long holds a single nationality principle, Ngo Bao Chau can now have the dual: France and Vietnam.

I wouldn't be surprised to see more Vietnamese to get such achievements in the future, maybe nobel prizes too (if Le Duc Tho isn't counted), but "how to nurture these achievements locally" remains to be a question for the officials and educators who are obsessed with Chau's success to answer.
daxas24
LOL
I'm on the news
FieryOFTheEast
QUOTE (daxas24 @ Aug 20 2010, 12:09 AM) *
LOL
I'm on the news

For what
vietnameagle
congratuation to professor Ngo Bao Chau , damn Viet ppl are genious at math icon_smile.gif
altractiveguy
QUOTE (dulldull @ Aug 20 2010, 02:08 AM) *
it seems that the new record results both from his talent, and the amendment on allowing dual nationality in 2008

his background is similar to another mathematician Shing-Tung Yau, the fields medal winner in 1982 who were born in Trieu Chau, raised up and finished his degree in Hong Kong, but his most important work was done in America. As China doesn't allow dual nationality, he retained his American one. Thanks to the amendenment in 2008 in Vietnam that long holds a single nationality principle, Ngo Bao Chau can now have the dual: France and Vietnam.

I wouldn't be surprised to see more Vietnamese to get such achievements in the future, maybe nobel prizes too (if Le Duc Tho isn't counted), but "how to nurture these achievements locally" remains to be a question for the officials and educators who are obsessed with Chau's success to answer.



Professor Ngo Bao Chau grew up in Hanoi, Vietnam, and won two gold medals for VN in two IMOs (International Math Olympiad) before he went overseas to further his math study. He only became a French citizen recently, early this year so he has dual citizenship now. He explained that with a French passport, it's easier to travel around. He has never lost his Vietnamese citizenship.

His parents are still living in Hanoi. His dad used to serve in the communist North Vietnam's army as a soldier. And, Ngo Bao Chau regularly comes back to VN.
HoCockMinh
QUOTE (bluecom @ Aug 19 2010, 08:30 AM) *
And this is a Fields Medalist:

United States 13
France 11
Russia/Russie 9
United Kingdom 6
Japan 3
Belgium 2
Finland 1
Israel 1
Italy 1
Norway 1
Vietnam 1
New Zealand 1
Sweden 1
Germany 1
Australia 1

And no india, no china, no others
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal


If Chinese American (Shing-Tung Yau) doesn't count in your head for some odd reasons, then your Ngô Bảo Châu (Vietnamese French) shouldn't be counted as well. TOo bad stupid viet dog can't get no nobel prize yet...

altractiveguy
^ Idiot.

Mathematics is where to prove your intelligence. Fields medals are only handed out to extraordinary individuals every 4 years. Much harder to get than Nobel prizes. Talking about Nobel prizes, Le duc Tho was awarded a Nobel peace prize but he declined it.

Shing-Tung Yau is not China's citizen.





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P/S: I'm smelling jealousy here. dulldull and this HCM impersonator could be of the same gang.
HoCockMinh
QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 01:02 PM) *
^ Idiot.

Mathematics is where to prove your intelligence. Fields medals are only handed out to extraordinary individuals every 4 years. Much harder to get than Nobel prizes. Talking about Nobel prizes, Le duc Tho was awarded a Nobel peace prize but he declined it.

Shing-Tung Yau is not China's citizen.

P/S: I'm smelling jealousy here. dulldull and this HCM impersonator could be of the same gang.


Retard, let me teach you how to read.

First, I never compare Nobel Prizes with Field Medals
Second, when conversing in this specific context I'm referring to "SCIENCE" related Nobel Prizes, dummy!!!!!

Shin-Tung Yau is ethnic Chinese, do you think he's not Chinese just because his citizenship is of USA? LOL!!!!!
If that's your stupid logic, then many Viet American or Viet oversea who doesn't have Vietnam's citizenship, then please from now on stop bragging about them. LOL

Jealously of Viet dogs? LOL
HoCockMinh
QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 01:02 PM) *
^ Idiot.

Mathematics is where to prove your intelligence. Fields medals are only handed out to extraordinary individuals every 4 years. Much harder to get than Nobel prizes. Talking about Nobel prizes, Le duc Tho was awarded a Nobel peace prize but he declined it.

Shing-Tung Yau is not China's citizen.


P/S: I'm smelling jealousy here. dulldull and this HCM impersonator could be of the same gang.



"Mathematics is where to prove your intelligence."

LoL, do you think that's not true for biology? physics? chemistry?
Where is viet dog in those fields?

Pathetic dog

altractiveguy
QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 04:04 PM) *
"Mathematics is where to prove your intelligence."

LoL, do you think that's not true for biology? physics? chemistry?
Where is viet dog in those fields?

Pathetic dog



Idiot icon_smile.gif

Math is the backbone of science, the king.
HoCockMinh
QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 04:58 PM) *
Idiot icon_smile.gif

Math is the backbone of science, the king.


Sure, keep doing good at math while fail at everything else...

Yes, math is backbone of all science, yet you people can't utilized the fundamentals in helping you in physics, chemistry, biology and so on and so forth...

Yes, some might argue education is also backbone of success, but does that always hold true? Can the smart Vietnamese who's good at math exceed in other field? SAD SAD

Not once had our little Viet morons won IMO (high school level) competition and awarded 1st place..LOL

$hit
altractiveguy
QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 04:57 PM) *
Retard, let me teach you how to read.

First, I never compare Nobel Prizes with Field Medals
Second, when conversing in this specific context I'm referring to "SCIENCE" related Nobel Prizes, dummy!!!!!

Shin-Tung Yau is ethnic Chinese, do you think he's not Chinese just because his citizenship is of USA? LOL!!!!!
If that's your stupid logic, then many Viet American or Viet oversea who doesn't have Vietnam's citizenship, then please from now on stop bragging about them. LOL

Jealously of Viet dogs? LOL


You are seriously a retard. Most Overseas Vietnamese still have their Vietnamese citizenship. The communist Viet government has a law saying Viets everywhere around the world are still considered Vietnamese citizens unless they file an application to withdraw. Only recently, (for security reasons) the Viet government made a new law requiring Overseas Viets to file an application to keep their current Vietnamese citizenship or else they are not considered citizens of Vietnam anymore .

Shin-Tung Yau left China for British-controlled Hong Kong when he was a few months old. HK was only returned to China in 1997 icon_smile.gif. Please don't claim him when he was educated by someone else.

Countries that has Fields medal winning citizens:


United States 13
France 11
Russia/Russie 9
United Kingdom 6
Japan 3
Belgium 2
Finland 1
Israel 1
Italy 1
Norway 1
Vietnam 1
New Zealand 1
Sweden 1
Germany 1
Australia 1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal





QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 06:13 PM) *
Sure, keep doing good at math while fail at everything else...

Yes, some might argue education is also backbone of success, but does that always hold true? Can the smart Vietnamese who's good at math exceed in other field? SAD SAD

Not once had our little Viet morons won IMO (high school level) competition and awarded 1st place..LOL

$hit



Education and success? Bad analogy, Idiot. Math is needed everywhere. Without Math, this modern civilization is not possible.

Idiot, IMO is a far away from Fields level, and you are proud of your good HS math-solving students? LOL

QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 06:13 PM) *
Yes, math is backbone of all science, yet you people can't utilized the fundamentals in helping you in physics, chemistry, biology and so on and so forth...


Don't expect too much from an impoverished country right now icon_smile.gif You are thinking highly of us. I'm feeling honored.

But be prepared, Viets will soon win Nobel prizes in other fields as VN's economy is improving because more money will be poured into research and labs, comparable working environments will help us compete fairly with others.
HoCockMinh
QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 05:37 PM) *
Education and success? Bad analogy, Idiot. Math is needed everywhere. Without Math, this modern civilization is not possible.


Yes, go tell people that think Education correlates with Success is stupid! Education encompassed math skill as well, maybe you are too stupid to understand what "EDUCATION" means! Math nevertheless provides the fundamental that one seeks, however, how one choose to utilized the skill is another case.
Being good at math does not translate to you people succeeding in Physics, Biology and/or Chemistry. If that was the case, instead of asking me to teach you how to debate you will already list bunch of Vietnamese scholars who exceed in Physics, Chemistry and Biology etc.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 05:37 PM) *
Idiot, IMO is a far away from Fields level, and you are proud of your good HS math-solving students? LOL


Idiot, that's my point exactly! As smart as you people are, you can't even win a high school level competition.
Idiot, Chinese also won field medals, as well as IMO various times, how about Vietnam?

Making correlation and analogy must be too hard for you, huh?
In what way would you think I'm saying IMO is equal to Field medals?
In what way would you think I'm comparing Chinese achievement in IMO with your Field medalist?
I'm comparing Chinese achievement in IMO with Vietnamese achievement in IMO
Seriously, how better of economy do you need to succeed in High School Level Math competition?





QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 05:37 PM) *
Don't expect too much from an impoverished country right now icon_smile.gif You are thinking highly of us. I'm feeling honored.


I'm not expecting anything from you, I'm making fun of you.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 05:37 PM) *
But be prepared, Viets will soon win Nobel prizes in other fields as VN's economy is improving because more money will be poured into research and labs, comparable working environments will help us compete fairly with others.


Very funny!!!! Study your poor economy before forecasting your wonderful dreams on AF
altractiveguy
QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 06:50 PM) *
Yes, go tell people that think Education correlates with Success is stupid! Education encompassed math skill as well, maybe you are too stupid to understand what "EDUCATION" means! Math nevertheless provides the fundamental that one seeks, however, how one choose to utilized the skill is another case.
Being good at math does not translate to you people succeeding in Physics, Biology and/or Chemistry. If that was the case, instead of asking me to teach you how to debate you will already list bunch of Vietnamese scholars who exceed in Physics, Chemistry and Biology etc.


You are seriously an idiot. People with an education is more likely to become successful (not a 100% guarantee) but it has nothing do with Math being needed in almost anything, science. That's why it's a bad analogy.

Don't you know VN is behind a lot of countries in almost everything? It takes time, kid. If a viet wins something, it's already a micracle. Right now VN don't even have world stardard labs. It's hard to compete with the rich kids when you are mainly focusing on making money to feed your basic needs right now. That's why I said as VN's economy improves year by year you will see more success stories from VN.



QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 06:50 PM) *
Idiot, that's my point exactly! As smart as you people are, you can't even win a high school level competition.
Idiot, Chinese also won field medals, as well as IMO various times, how about Vietnam?



I'm not expecting anything from you, I'm making fun of you.


Retard.

U.S HS math team is not the best in the HS level math competition yet they have won 13 fields medals. You guys are still stuck at HS math level (math solving robots has its limits icon_smile.gif) while others like Americans advanced beyond that level.

LOL, VN's HS students win IMO medals every year although not the best HS math solving team icon_smile.gif It's not like we don't win anything.

In 2010 IMO, Viets got:

1 gold, 4 silvers, 1 bronze.




QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 06:50 PM) *
Very funny!!!! Study your poor economy before forecasting your wonderful dreams on AF


Keep wishing ill of VN icon_smile.gif, Keep doing that. Your life will be miserable.
HoCockMinh
QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 05:37 PM) *
You are seriously a retard. Most Overseas Vietnamese still have their Vietnamese citizenship. The communist Viet government has a law saying Viets everywhere around the world are still considered Vietnamese citizens unless the file an application to withdraw. Only recently, (for security reasons) the Viet government made a new law requiring Overseas Viets to file an application to keep their Vietnamese citizenship or else they are not considered citizens of Vietnam anymore .

Shin-Tung Yau left China for British-controlled Hong Kong when he was a few months old. HK was only returned to China in 1997 icon_smile.gif. Please don't claim him when he was educated by someone else.

Countries that Fields medal winning citizens:


United States 13
France 11
Russia/Russie 9
United Kingdom 6
Japan 3
Belgium 2
Finland 1
Israel 1
Italy 1
Norway 1
Vietnam 1
New Zealand 1
Sweden 1
Germany 1
Australia 1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal


You're retard! He's ethnically a Chinese, it doesn't matter what citizenships he holds, he's still a Chinese who got Field Medals.
You're seriously a retard and doesn't understand the "ESSENCE" of a logic! I'm merely saying, a Chinese man also got a field medal despite he represent United States of America.

With your retarded logic, then Ngo Bao also is taught by French man, he didn't get the reward when he was in Vietnam did he? He only got them after studying in France.
Are you telling me people of Hong Kong aren't Chinese just because the official hand over date is 1997? LOL!!!

Talking to you is like talking to a 5 years old
altractiveguy
QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 07:30 PM) *
You're retard! He's ethnically a Chinese, it doesn't matter what citizenships he holds, he's still a Chinese who got Field Medals.
You're seriously a retard and doesn't understand the "ESSENCE" of a logic! I'm merely saying, a Chinese man also got a field medal despite he represent United States of America.

With your retarded logic, then Ngo Bao also is taught by French man, he didn't get the reward when he was in Vietnam did he? He only got them after studying in France.
Are you telling me people of Hong Kong aren't Chinese just because the official hand over date is 1997? LOL!!!

Talking to you is like talking to a 5 years old



Sorry, Ngo Bao Chau grew up in VN, got his fundamental math education in VN, and won 2 IMO gold medals before he went overseas to further his study. He was not an ordinary kid. Although we won't deny that French math working environment helped him advance further. France can get 30% credit.

Shin-Tung Yau left China for British-controlled Hong Kong when he was a few months old.

No comparison here.

HoCockMinh
QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:23 PM) *
You are seriously an idiot. People with an education is more likely to become successful (not a 100% guarantee) but it has nothing do with Math being needed in almost anything, science. That's why it's a bad analogy.


You're an idiot!

Math is backbone of science vs Education is backbone of success is a good analogy

1. Because math is not 100% utilized in science as well, the analogy i'm making is that, they are both (not 100% guarantee) LIke you said so yourself (almost) anything, but not 100%. So it is an analogy depicting the concept it is intended to portrayed

Thank you for reinforcing my point.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:23 PM) *
Don't you know VN is behind a lot of countries in almost everything? It takes time, kid. If a viet wins something, it's already a micracle. Right now VN don't even have world stardard labs. It's hard to compete with the rich kids when you are mainly focusing on making money to feed your basic needs right now. That's why I said as VN's economy improves year by year you will see more success stories from VN.


Vietnam is always behind a lot of countries since its existence in history, don't you know? Yes, it takes a "LOTS" of time.
Yes, blame it on funding, nutrition, lack of opportunity in a high school level competition if you insist.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:23 PM) *
Retard.

U.S HS math team is not the best in the HS level math competition yet they has won 13 fields medals. You guys are still stuck at HS math level (math solving robots has its limits icon_smile.gif) while others like Americans advanced beyond that level.

LOL, VN's HS students win IMO medals every year although not the best HS math solving team icon_smile.gif It's not like we don't win anything.

In 2010 IMO, Viets got:

1 gold, 4 silvers, 1 bronze.

Keep wishing ill of VN icon_smile.gif, Keep doing that. Your life will be miserable.


Yes, they are US, they are not Vietnam. Vietnam sux at both the upper & lower level, that's what I'm trying to point out.
US is known for their quality in higher education, while not the primary. In the long run, what do you think is going to happen?
US is already losing its edge in terms of graduated engineers compare to Asian country like (Japan, Korea, China) etc.
US always attract lots of foreign talents in their higher educations, don't you know?

If stating fact is wishing ill, I'm very sorry to hurt your feeling
HoCockMinh
QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:38 PM) *
Sorry, Ngo Bao Chau grew up in VN, got his fundamental math education in VN, and won 2 IMO gold medals before he went overseas to further his study. He was not an ordinary kid. Although we won't deny that French math working environment helped him advance further. France can get 30% credit.

Shin-Tung Yau left China for British-controlled Hong Kong when he was a few months old.

No comparison here.


Your logic reasoning is of a child, so a person who's born in a British control Chinese territory is not consider Chinese to you?
So, if any important Vietnamese person would to appear in French occupied Vietnam then that means everything is accredited to French man and not Vietnamese? Is that what you are telling me?

(Using your bias logic) Well, did he or did he not receive the award after he went to France? So please thanks the French man for helping him succeed so it doesn't count toward Vietnamese. LOL

So are you telling me, any Vietnamese scholars who's born in United States of America and has no Vietnam citizenship the Vietnamese people can't take pride in it? LOL!!!!!!!!!! How many Viet historical figure is due to Chinese magnificence, I wonder! After all, Vietnam is under 1,000 years of Chinese rule...

So if he received education prior to 1997 hand over Hong Kong to China still doesn't make him Chinese and have to thanks to white...Then you gotta really thank your Chinese master for 1,000 years of civlizing you idiots...WOuldn't you think so? LOL
altractiveguy
QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 07:43 PM) *
You're an idiot!

Math is backbone of science vs Education is backbone of success is a good analogy

1. Because math is not 100% utilized in science as well, the analogy i'm making is that, they are both (not 100% guarantee) LIke you said so yourself (almost) anything, but not 100%. So it is an analogy depicting the concept it is intended to portrayed

Thank you for reinforcing my point.


Idiot. You can be succesful without a high education. A farmer can get rich by growing some high demand produce. He then can buy a big house, a car, marry a beatiful wife...

Advanced civilization can't be built without the help of math.




QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 07:43 PM) *
Vietnam is always behind a lot of countries since its existence in history, don't you know? Yes, it takes a "LOTS" of time.
Yes, blame it on funding, nutrition, lack of opportunity in a high school level competition if you insist.


Lol, in the past, VN was a lot better than many countries, in the past's standards of course. And, of course, it can not be better than a empire with ~20x population contributing. Grow a brain.



QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 07:43 PM) *
Yes, they are US, they are not Vietnam. Vietnam sux at both the upper & lower level, that's what I'm trying to point out.
US is known for their quality in secondary education, while not the primary. In the long run, what do you think is going to happen?
US is already losing its edge in terms of graduated engineers compare to Asian country like (Japan, Korea, China) etc.
US always attract lots of foreign talents in their secondary educations, don't you know?

If stating fact is wishing ill, I'm very sorry to hurt your feeling


VN does not really suck. They do get medals in the HS math level although, not the best icon_smile.gif and one Viet just got a Fields medal today. Don't hate, man icon_smile.gif

Yes, Japan, Korea, and even China became better, thanks to U.S's great help, not to say guys wouldn't become better without U.S's help. But the U.S's help made you guys became significantly better. Trading with the U.S's made you guys a lot of money, not to mention, many got their education, got tech transfer from the U.S.

Sorry, Quality beats quantities. Korea's or Japan's... higher college gruaduating rates don't mean much.
HoCockMinh
QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM) *
Idiot. You can be succesful without a high education. A farmer can get rich by growing some high demand produce. He then can buy a big house, a car, marry a beatiful wife...


Exactly, that's why I said Education doesn't always translate to sucess, can't you read and comprehend what people wrote?

"Yes, some might argue education is also backbone of success, but does that always hold true? Can the smart Vietnamese who's good at math exceed in other field? SAD SAD"

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM) *
Advanced civilization can't be built with the help of math.


Advanced civilization can't be built without the help of math. Do you need to learn English?
Still, math alone doesn't dictate 100% of outcome, other factors are involved in creating an advance civilization.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM) *
Lol, it the past, VN was a lot better than many countries, in the past standards of course. and, of course, it can not be better than a empire with ~20x population contributing.


Mind sharing what time frame you were referring to? You mean when it was occupied 1,000 years and forced to learn and adopt its master's language/cultural/philosophy?

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM) *
VN does not really suck. They do get medals in the HS math level although, not the best icon_smile.gif and one Viet just got a Fields medal today. Don't hate, man icon_smile.gif


In general Vietnam don't suck, but when comparing with China or other country it DOES suck! I'm sorry if you think stating fact = hating.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM) *
Yes, Japan, Korea, and even China became better, thanks to U.S's great help, not to say guys wouldn't become better without U.S's help. But the U.S's help made you guys became significantly better. Trading with the U.S's made you guys a lot of money, not to mention, many got their education, got tech transfer from the U.S.


Yes, U.S also got a lot of help from Europe, as it is basically a melting pot of many great mind that came from Europe.
Europe is indebted to many ancient civilization like Chinese, Indian etc...Not sure about Vietnam though...LOL

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 06:58 PM) *
Sorry, Quality beats quantities. Korea's or Japan's college gruaduating rates don't mean much.


Yes, Vietnam lack both (Quality and Quantity) that's a shame.
altractiveguy
QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 07:48 PM) *
Your logic reasoning is of a child, so a person who's born in a British control Chinese territory is not consider Chinese to you?
So, if any important Vietnamese person would to appear in French occupied Vietnam then that means everything is accredited to French man and not Vietnamese? Is that what you are telling me?

(Using your bias logic) Well, did he or did he not receive the award after he went to France? So please thanks the French man for helping him succeed so it doesn't count toward Vietnamese. LOL



Retard,

Nobody denies his roots were Teochew. But he became succesful not because of China's education. Remember he left for British controlled Hong Kong when he was a few months old where he got a British style education.

While Ngo Bao Chau got well educated in VN, won 2 IMO medals before he went overseas. France couldn't have made some stupid Vietnamese win a Fields Medal.

It's not like we don't give France credit. As I said previously, France got 30% credit.



QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 07:48 PM) *
So are you telling me, any Vietnamese scholars who's born in United States of America and has no Vietnam citizenship the Vietnamese people can't take pride in it? LOL!!!!!!!!!! How many Viet historical figure is due to Chinese magnificence I wonder after all Vietnam is under 1,000 years of Chinese rule...

So if he received education prior to 1997 hand over Hong Kong to China still doesn't make him Chinese and have to thanks to white...Then you gotta really thank your Chinese master for 1,000 years of civlizing you idiots...WOuldn't you think so? LOL


No, I'm not telling you that Viets can't take pride in but still, one can not deny that America made them great. America gets most of the credit.

How many historical figures in China was not Han, but contributed greatly to the the empire? LOL. Think before you speak.
HoCockMinh
QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:15 PM) *
Retard,

Nobody denies his roots were Teochew. But he became succesful not because of China's education.

While Ngo Bao Chau got well educated in VN, won 2 IMO medals before he went overseas. France couldn't have made some stupid Vietnamese win a Fields Medal.

It's not like we don't give France credit. As I said previously, France got 30% credit.


Retard, how does moving to Hong Kong translate to him not being Chinese or his education not being Chinese taught? Just because it was on a supposedly British ruled place? When can you refute a sentence and stop repeating same thing 3x time? So can I argue Bao is not successful because of Vietnam's education? LOL!!!!!!! So if both of them aren't successful because of their native country's educational system, then what's your purpose of saying that? LOL

And Shing-Tung Yau did not received education in Hong Kong? he didn't study under Chinese school system? France shifted bunch of idiot from writing Chinese character to Latin in mere few centuries of times, you would be amazed at what the French master can do for its slaves

Its not like I'm saying Shing-Tung Yau doesn't represent America, I practically wrote that flat out.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:15 PM) *
No, I'm not telling you that Viets can't take pride in but still can not deny that America made them great

How many historical figures in China was not Han, but contributed greatly to the the empire? LOL. Think before you speak.


So why rant on when Hong Kong was officially handed to China? What difference does it make? Both are born in their native land, taught in their native educational systems and went abroad and get recognition. You're the idiot that's making a big fuss about it!

How many people today contributed to America today? Think before you compare it with China.
How many people from Vietnam contribute to China vs what China contribute to Vietnam?

Think before you bark little dog
altractiveguy
QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 08:09 PM) *
Exactly, that's why I said Education doesn't always translate to sucess, can't you read and comprehend what people wrote?

"Yes, some might argue education is also backbone of success, but does that always hold true? Can the smart Vietnamese who's good at math exceed in other field? SAD SAD"


Retards can't learn.
Of course Viets can become successful in other fields icon_smile.gif. We will get other prizes soon icon_smile.gif Remember VN is still 20-30 years behind China icon_smile.gif So don't expect from us too much. You're thinking too highly of us. We are feeling honored.

QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 08:09 PM) *
Advanced civilization can't be built without the help of math. Do you need to learn English?
Still, math alone doesn't dictate 100% of outcome, other factors are involved in creating an advance civilization.


Too bad, you were kinda slow. I already fixed my mistake before you made your reply. How pathetic, attacking my minor error.


QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 08:09 PM) *
Mind sharing what time frame you were referring to? You mean when it was occupied 1,000 years and forced to learn and adopt its master's language/cultural/philosophy?


like Vietnam under Nguyen Hue's rule, and many periods under previous rulers...

Hey go outside and pick a fight with a viet, one on one fight to prove your superior, lol.

2000 years ago, 500k nothern men came and bullied a population with a total population of ~ 1 million people (women, children, old people included) LOL. How pathetic yet someone is now proud of their actions.


QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 08:09 PM) *
In general Vietnam don't suck, but when comparing with China or other country it DOES suck! I'm sorry if you think stating fact = hating.

Yes, U.S also got a lot of help from Europe, as it is basically a melting pot of many great mind that came from Europe.
Europe is indebted to many ancient civilization like Chinese, Indian etc...Not sure about Vietnam though...LOL

Yes, Vietnam lack both (Quality and Quantity) that's a shame.


Imagine what VN could have turned out to be if we got that much help? LOL

Yes, comparing VN with an Empire with 20x the population and land, LOL. How pathetic can you get.

You could be a defeated Miao who got assimilated into the mixed pot Chinese ethnic, so don't be too proud LOL.

Hey, VN is just a small country. But you are thinking highly of us. We are feeling honored.

VN is advancing. Don't hate.


That's it for you, office. I know you will keep dragging on the fight if I don't stop. We know you too well. You can get hurt easily.


So this is my last post for you.
HoCockMinh
QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:39 PM) *
Retards can't learn.
Of course Viets can become successful in other fields icon_smile.gif. We will get other prizes soon icon_smile.gif Remember VN is still 20-30 years behind China icon_smile.gif So don't expect from us too much. You're thinking too highly of us. We are feeling honored.


Yes, but the question is "when" and compare to who! If you compare with your SE Asian brethren, of course you will think you're successful. However, when you compared with East Asians then that's a different case. You see there's a hierarchy of how things is being run. No problem, Chinese master doesn't mind comparing with Vietnamese slaves from time to time.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:39 PM) *
Too bad, you were kinda slow. I already fixed my mistake before you made your reply. How pathetic, attacking my minor error.


Too bad you are the slow one that lets me noticed it (in the first place). LOL

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:39 PM) *
like Vietnam under Nguyen Hue's rule, and many periods under previous rulers... Hey go outside and pick a fight with a viet, one one one fight to prove your superior, lol.


Nguyen Hue reign 1788-1792. Hmmm ok!!! LOL...So vietnam is better than other country in what way or form? LOL!! OR because you said so!!!
China already picked a fight with little Viet and occupied it 1,000 years. I don't want to hurt your feeling

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:39 PM) *
2000 years ago, 500k Nothern men came and bullied a population with a total population of ~ 1 million people (women, children, old people included) LOL. How pathetic yet someone is now proud of their actions.


I'm not proud, I feel sorry for the Vietnamese.
I always feel sorry for the weak ones.

QUOTE (altractiveguy @ Aug 21 2010, 07:39 PM) *
Yes, comparing VN with an Empire with 20x the population and land, LOL. How pathetic can you get.

You could be a defeated Miao who got assimilated into the mixed pot Chinese ethnic, so don't be too proud LOL.

Hey, VN is just a small country. But you are thinking highly of us. We are feeling honored.

VN is advancing. Don't hate.

That's it for you, office. I know you will keep dragging on the fight if I don't stop. We know you too well. You can get hurt easily.

So this is my last post for you.



You people are the idiots who compare with China in the first place! Oh yeah, you're small so its ok, hahahaha

You could be a defeated Viet who's intermix with Chinese master blood, so be proud as well. Maybe intermix with a Miao turn Chinese master...

No problem, I always think highly of my dog from time to time...

Every country is advancing in their own ways. Maybe those pathetic progress is "advancing" in your standard. LOL

Who's office? My friend on AF?
mixuvi125
May bua nay tin ve GS Ngo Bao Chau rum beng wa hen biggrin.gif . Tu hao Viet Nam . Proud of him !!!
log
QUOTE (HoCockMinh @ Aug 21 2010, 08:51 PM) *
Yes, but the question is "when" and compare to who! If you compare with your SE Asian brethren, of course you will think you're successful. However, when you compared with East Asians then that's a different case. You see there's a hierarchy of how things is being run. No problem, Chinese master doesn't mind comparing with Vietnamese slaves from time to time.



Too bad you are the slow one that lets me noticed it (in the first place). LOL



Nguyen Hue reign 1788-1792. Hmmm ok!!! LOL...So vietnam is better than other country in what way or form? LOL!! OR because you said so!!!
China already picked a fight with little Viet and occupied it 1,000 years. I don't want to hurt your feeling



I'm not proud, I feel sorry for the Vietnamese.
I always feel sorry for the weak ones.


You people are the idiots who compare with China in the first place! Oh yeah, you're small so its ok, hahahaha

You could be a defeated Viet who's intermix with Chinese master blood, so be proud as well. Maybe intermix with a Miao turn Chinese master...

No problem, I always think highly of my dog from time to time...

Every country is advancing in their own ways. Maybe those pathetic progress is "advancing" in your standard. LOL

Who's office? My friend on AF?


^_^
Tav6
i did not follow this thread

so did them chinese claim ngo bao chau as 1/32 chinese too ?????

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