Dara
Nov 27 2004, 02:46 PM
Hi, I was wondering what does the name Saigon mean in Vietnamese?
DaiNamViet
Nov 27 2004, 08:33 PM
QUOTE (Dara @ Nov 27 2004, 03:46 PM)
Hi, I was wondering what does the name Saigon mean in Vietnamese?
I heard its got relations with China's Xi An ..... in Cantonese would be Sai Ahhn
supernovasp
Nov 27 2004, 10:20 PM
It doesn't mean anything. It's just a name
福州市长
Nov 27 2004, 10:20 PM
theres a place in Hong Kong call Saigon too..
西贡
Doan Du
Nov 28 2004, 09:15 AM
QUOTE (福州市长 @ Nov 27 2004, 11:20 PM)
theres a place in Hong Kong call Saigon too..
西贡
There is a street called Saigon and a street called Hanoi in Hong Kong (Saigon street is near Jordan and Hanoi street is very close to Carnivon Road). In the 1900's, there were a lot of Chinese immigrants going to Vietnam for work. South Vietnam was then a booming country with 17,000 businesses and a dominant economy in Asia, with output only second to Japan.
Some Chinese made the money and then went back to Hong Kong. Some went on to Singapore such as the Lee family. A lot of Chinese in Vietnam are related to Chinese in Singapore because of this event.
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There are two theories where the word Saigon came from. First, it is a bastardized version of the Cambodian word " Prey Nokor" which means cottonwood. Second it is a bastardized version of Cantonese "Tay Ngang" which means barrier.
Rappapa
Nov 28 2004, 09:51 AM
^Ah, thanks for sharing that information
福州市长
Nov 28 2004, 11:20 AM
QUOTE (Doan Du @ Nov 28 2004, 10:15 AM)
QUOTE (福州市长 @ Nov 27 2004, 11:20 PM)
theres a place in Hong Kong call Saigon too..
西贡
There is a street called Saigon and a street called Hanoi in Hong Kong (Saigon street is near Jordan and Hanoi street is very close to Carnivon Road). In the 1900's, there were a lot of Chinese immigrants going to Vietnam for work. South Vietnam was then a booming country with 17,000 businesses and a dominant economy in Asia, with output only second to Japan.
Some Chinese made the money and then went back to Hong Kong. Some went on to Singapore such as the Lee family. A lot of Chinese in Vietnam are related to Chinese in Singapore because of this event.
------------------------------------------------------------
There are two theories where the word Saigon came from. First, it is a bastardized version of the Cambodian word " Prey Nokor" which means cottonwood. Second it is a bastardized version of Cantonese "Tay Ngang" which means barrier.
thanks for ur information...
aaronly
Nov 28 2004, 12:20 PM
i saw a hongkong movie and they were talking about a street name saigon in it, i thought it was kinda strange
wildkhmerbuddha
Nov 28 2004, 02:43 PM
"prey nakor" is "jungle kingdom" you idiot. even 50 years ago kampuchea krom(south vietnam) is full of jungle and swamp. dont be so ignorant about us khmer, you youn ain't that much better than us.
QUOTE (Doan Du @ Nov 28 2004, 10:15 AM)
QUOTE (福州市长 @ Nov 27 2004, 11:20 PM)
theres a place in Hong Kong call Saigon too..
西贡
There is a street called Saigon and a street called Hanoi in Hong Kong (Saigon street is near Jordan and Hanoi street is very close to Carnivon Road). In the 1900's, there were a lot of Chinese immigrants going to Vietnam for work. South Vietnam was then a booming country with 17,000 businesses and a dominant economy in Asia, with output only second to Japan.
Some Chinese made the money and then went back to Hong Kong. Some went on to Singapore such as the Lee family. A lot of Chinese in Vietnam are related to Chinese in Singapore because of this event.
------------------------------------------------------------
There are two theories where the word Saigon came from. First, it is a bastardized version of the Cambodian word " Prey Nokor" which means cottonwood. Second it is a bastardized version of Cantonese "Tay Ngang" which means barrier.
DaiNamViet
Nov 28 2004, 02:51 PM
QUOTE
"prey nakor" is "jungle kingdom"
Wow , so we marched south and conquered jungle peoples
wildkhmerbuddha
Nov 28 2004, 03:00 PM
not conquered but migrated, just another idiot. anyway, i just saw the vietnamese floating village in tonle sap on dvd, man, vietnamese peoples one weird azz ethnic. alot of lands in srok kampuchea krom or even central vietnam or even cambodia but they chose to live/shzit/trash the tonle sap lake. even the water is messed up and not sanitized at all.
DaiNamViet
Nov 28 2004, 03:03 PM
QUOTE
not conquered but migrated, just another idiot.
Migrated?? to where ??
supernovasp
Nov 28 2004, 03:05 PM
Prey Nokor- eventually turned to a city called Gia Dinh city before French colonized- Then to Saigon city- and then Ho Chi Minh city
aaronly
Nov 28 2004, 03:10 PM
QUOTE (wildkhmerbuddha @ Nov 28 2004, 04:00 PM)
not conquered but migrated, just another idiot. anyway, i just saw the vietnamese floating village in tonle sap on dvd, man, vietnamese peoples one weird azz ethnic. alot of lands in srok kampuchea krom or even central vietnam or even cambodia but they chose to live/shzit/trash the tonle sap lake. even the water is messed up and not sanitized at all.
i smell someone with an inferiority complex here
wildkhmerbuddha
Nov 28 2004, 03:13 PM
not going to work with me shorty.
QUOTE (aaronly @ Nov 28 2004, 04:10 PM)
QUOTE (wildkhmerbuddha @ Nov 28 2004, 04:00 PM)
not conquered but migrated, just another idiot. anyway, i just saw the vietnamese floating village in tonle sap on dvd, man, vietnamese peoples one weird azz ethnic. alot of lands in srok kampuchea krom or even central vietnam or even cambodia but they chose to live/shzit/trash the tonle sap lake. even the water is messed up and not sanitized at all.
i smell someone with an inferiority complex here

DaiNamViet
Nov 28 2004, 03:31 PM
QUOTE
not going to work with me shorty.
Shorty?? he's 5 four , thats taller than you
aaronly
Nov 28 2004, 03:33 PM
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Nov 28 2004, 04:31 PM)
QUOTE
not going to work with me shorty.
Shorty?? he's 5 four , thats taller than you

wow wilduglykhmerbuddha has some nice come back
Doan Du
Nov 29 2004, 08:58 AM
QUOTE (wildkhmerbuddha @ Nov 28 2004, 03:43 PM)
"prey nakor" is "jungle kingdom" you idiot. even 50 years ago kampuchea krom(south vietnam) is full of jungle and swamp. dont be so ignorant about us khmer, you youn ain't that much better than us.
Really! I stand corrected. I was always told that Prey Nokor is "cottonwood forest" by many people. Please don't call me by the pejorative epithet "youn". We don't have a degatory term for Khmer.
I have visited Kampuchea many times and am enchanted by its beauty, culture and gentle people. I love Phnom Penh's wide boulevards and Angkor Wat's Bayon.
Doan Du
Nov 29 2004, 09:00 AM
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Nov 28 2004, 04:05 PM)
Prey Nokor- eventually turned to a city called Gia Dinh city before French colonized- Then to Saigon city- and then Ho Chi Minh city
Ben Nghe, not Gia Dinh. Gia Dinh is a fort built by the Nguyen Lords to counter the Tay Son.
Doan Du
Nov 29 2004, 09:07 AM
QUOTE (wildkhmerbuddha @ Nov 28 2004, 04:00 PM)
not conquered but migrated, just another idiot. anyway, i just saw the vietnamese floating village in tonle sap on dvd, man, vietnamese peoples one weird azz ethnic. alot of lands in srok kampuchea krom or even central vietnam or even cambodia but they chose to live/shzit/trash the tonle sap lake. even the water is messed up and not sanitized at all.
I agree. Vietnamese should vacate the Khmer land and give back the control of Kampuchea to Khmer people. We have done enough harm to the Khmer people with our century-old political and economic control. At this rate, it wouldn't be too long before we make Khmer people a minority in their own land.
wildkhmerbuddha
Nov 29 2004, 11:28 AM
so what you guy call tonle sap? im sure they have the name for it.
QUOTE (Doan Du @ Nov 29 2004, 10:07 AM)
QUOTE (wildkhmerbuddha @ Nov 28 2004, 04:00 PM)
not conquered but migrated, just another idiot. anyway, i just saw the vietnamese floating village in tonle sap on dvd, man, vietnamese peoples one weird azz ethnic. alot of lands in srok kampuchea krom or even central vietnam or even cambodia but they chose to live/shzit/trash the tonle sap lake. even the water is messed up and not sanitized at all.
I agree. Vietnamese should vacate the Khmer land and give back the control of Kampuchea to Khmer people. We have done enough harm to the Khmer people with our century-old political and economic control. At this rate, it wouldn't be too long before we make Khmer people a minority in their own land.
DAI_VIET
Nov 29 2004, 11:50 AM
Do I really have to repeat this again? Vietnam began its conquest of south Vietnam since the 1600s.

Source: US State Department. Stop lying to yourself dude. You guys are all the same, make up wierd stories and blame on Viets for doing stuff to your people. Sick of that.
QUOTE (wildkhmerbuddha @ Nov 28 2004, 03:43 PM)
"prey nakor" is "jungle kingdom" you idiot. even 50 years ago kampuchea krom(south vietnam) is full of jungle and swamp. dont be so ignorant about us khmer, you youn ain't that much better than us.
QUOTE (Doan Du @ Nov 28 2004, 10:15 AM)
QUOTE (福州市长 @ Nov 27 2004, 11:20 PM)
theres a place in Hong Kong call Saigon too..
西贡
There is a street called Saigon and a street called Hanoi in Hong Kong (Saigon street is near Jordan and Hanoi street is very close to Carnivon Road). In the 1900's, there were a lot of Chinese immigrants going to Vietnam for work. South Vietnam was then a booming country with 17,000 businesses and a dominant economy in Asia, with output only second to Japan.
Some Chinese made the money and then went back to Hong Kong. Some went on to Singapore such as the Lee family. A lot of Chinese in Vietnam are related to Chinese in Singapore because of this event.
------------------------------------------------------------
There are two theories where the word Saigon came from. First, it is a bastardized version of the Cambodian word " Prey Nokor" which means cottonwood. Second it is a bastardized version of Cantonese "Tay Ngang" which means barrier.
DaiNamViet
Nov 29 2004, 06:40 PM
QUOTE
We have done enough harm to the Khmer people with our century-old political and economic control. At this rate, it wouldn't be too long before we make Khmer people a minority in their own land.
We?? who is we ?? you're not even Vietnamese ,damn minority ....
Azncrombieguy
Nov 29 2004, 07:11 PM
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Nov 27 2004, 09:33 PM)
QUOTE (Dara @ Nov 27 2004, 03:46 PM)
Hi, I was wondering what does the name Saigon mean in Vietnamese?
I heard its got relations with China's Xi An ..... in Cantonese would be Sai Ahhn
do you guys get everything from the chinese???? why dont you take their writing system too!!! every asian has their own characters why do you use english characters???? i've always wondered this please tell me. did the english force you to use their system??? if you want we can get all of the asians to get together and help you guys come up with one.
DaiNamViet
Nov 29 2004, 07:26 PM
QUOTE (Azncrombieguy @ Nov 29 2004, 08:11 PM)
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Nov 27 2004, 09:33 PM)
QUOTE (Dara @ Nov 27 2004, 03:46 PM)
Hi, I was wondering what does the name Saigon mean in Vietnamese?
I heard its got relations with China's Xi An ..... in Cantonese would be Sai Ahhn
do you guys get everything from the chinese???? why dont you take their writing system too!!! every asian has their own characters why do you use english characters???? i've always wondered this please tell me. did the english force you to use their system??? if you want we can get all of the asians to get together and help you guys come up with one.
Well, ahem didn't you people copy the sanscrit from the Indo's 
... but yea the Latin alphabet is much better than all the other systems... and yes Vietnam used to used the Chineses characters which was replaced by Latin alpha's ... it is much easier to learn
Azncrombieguy
Nov 29 2004, 07:55 PM
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Nov 29 2004, 08:26 PM)
QUOTE (Azncrombieguy @ Nov 29 2004, 08:11 PM)
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Nov 27 2004, 09:33 PM)
QUOTE (Dara @ Nov 27 2004, 03:46 PM)
Hi, I was wondering what does the name Saigon mean in Vietnamese?
I heard its got relations with China's Xi An ..... in Cantonese would be Sai Ahhn
do you guys get everything from the chinese???? why dont you take their writing system too!!! every asian has their own characters why do you use english characters???? i've always wondered this please tell me. did the english force you to use their system??? if you want we can get all of the asians to get together and help you guys come up with one.
Well, ahem didn't you people copy the sanscrit from the Indo's 
... but yea the Latin alphabet is much better than all the other systems... and yes Vietnam used to used the Chineses characters which was replaced by Latin alpha's ... it is much easier to learn
i dont have time to do any research maybe if it would help if i took asian history. but why take it when i can just ask you a question and you do the research for me that would be alot easier to do. just like you guys adapting the latin script. its just easier to do that way i dont have to put much effort into it. now can you tell us vietnamese people are so short? i've always wondered
aaronly
Nov 29 2004, 08:03 PM
QUOTE (Azncrombieguy @ Nov 29 2004, 08:55 PM)
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Nov 29 2004, 08:26 PM)
QUOTE (Azncrombieguy @ Nov 29 2004, 08:11 PM)
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Nov 27 2004, 09:33 PM)
QUOTE (Dara @ Nov 27 2004, 03:46 PM)
Hi, I was wondering what does the name Saigon mean in Vietnamese?
I heard its got relations with China's Xi An ..... in Cantonese would be Sai Ahhn
do you guys get everything from the chinese???? why dont you take their writing system too!!! every asian has their own characters why do you use english characters???? i've always wondered this please tell me. did the english force you to use their system??? if you want we can get all of the asians to get together and help you guys come up with one.
Well, ahem didn't you people copy the sanscrit from the Indo's 
... but yea the Latin alphabet is much better than all the other systems... and yes Vietnam used to used the Chineses characters which was replaced by Latin alpha's ... it is much easier to learn
i dont have time to do any research maybe if it would help if i took asian history. but why take it when i can just ask you a question and you do the research for me that would be alot easier to do. just like you guys adapting the latin script. its just easier to do that way i dont have to put much effort into it. now can you tell us vietnamese people are so short? i've always wonderedvietnamese are short due to genetic, it is like cambodians are ugly due to genetic, there is your answer, i am sorry but a stupid question deserve a stupid answer
Azncrombieguy
Nov 29 2004, 08:07 PM
that is not true that is personal opinion. it is a fact that viets are short. but it is not a fact that all cambodians are ugly there are some but not all, same goes for viets, please dont make me post a pic of my viet friend. i think cambodian girls are hot, i think all asian girls are hot. so there your statement is not true.
DaiNamViet
Nov 29 2004, 08:08 PM
QUOTE (aaronly @ Nov 29 2004, 09:03 PM)
QUOTE (Azncrombieguy @ Nov 29 2004, 08:55 PM)
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Nov 29 2004, 08:26 PM)
QUOTE (Azncrombieguy @ Nov 29 2004, 08:11 PM)
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Nov 27 2004, 09:33 PM)
QUOTE (Dara @ Nov 27 2004, 03:46 PM)
Hi, I was wondering what does the name Saigon mean in Vietnamese?
I heard its got relations with China's Xi An ..... in Cantonese would be Sai Ahhn
do you guys get everything from the chinese???? why dont you take their writing system too!!! every asian has their own characters why do you use english characters???? i've always wondered this please tell me. did the english force you to use their system??? if you want we can get all of the asians to get together and help you guys come up with one.
Well, ahem didn't you people copy the sanscrit from the Indo's 
... but yea the Latin alphabet is much better than all the other systems... and yes Vietnam used to used the Chineses characters which was replaced by Latin alpha's ... it is much easier to learn
i dont have time to do any research maybe if it would help if i took asian history. but why take it when i can just ask you a question and you do the research for me that would be alot easier to do. just like you guys adapting the latin script. its just easier to do that way i dont have to put much effort into it. now can you tell us vietnamese people are so short? i've always wonderedvietnamese are short due to genetic, it is like cambodians are ugly due to genetic, there is your answer, i am sorry but a stupid question deserve a stupid answer
Ditto
Azncrombieguy
Nov 29 2004, 08:16 PM
so aaronly let us prove that your statment is true and we should post your pic and DieNamViets pic up on every asian forum in AF and i bet some people are gonna say that you are unattractive. according to you all cambodians are ugly but i think that i am better looking than you two, so why dont you prove me wrong??? come on let everyone here see how attractive you are!! i wont get mad if you are better looking than me. there is someone for everyone even ugly people. some of my viet friends proved that to me already, hell so did some of my khmer friends. so like i said its all about personal preference.
DaiNamViet
Nov 29 2004, 08:23 PM
QUOTE
according to you all cambodians are ugly but i think that i am better looking than you two, so why dont you prove me wrong???
You just go ahead and keep thinking that ... but I wouldnt say all Cambodians are ugly though .. you yep
Azncrombieguy
Nov 29 2004, 09:09 PM
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Nov 29 2004, 09:23 PM)
QUOTE
according to you all cambodians are ugly but i think that i am better looking than you two, so why dont you prove me wrong???
You just go ahead and keep thinking that ... but I wouldnt say all Cambodians are ugly though .. you yep

and you look like an oompa loompa
July_Rain
Nov 30 2004, 03:23 AM
QUOTE (wildkhmerbuddha @ Nov 29 2004, 12:28 PM)
so what you guy call tonle sap? im sure they have the name for it.
We called it Bien Ho.
QUOTE (Azncrombieguy)
now can you tell us vietnamese people are so short? i've always wondered
QUOTE
it is a fact that viets are short
It's so partly due to genetic causes, my friend, just like a majority of Cambodian people are so dark. And this is a fact, too.

btw, this thread has nothing to do with the height of Vietnamese people.
Sideley
Nov 30 2004, 05:23 PM
QUOTE (July_Rain @ Nov 30 2004, 10:23 AM)
QUOTE (wildkhmerbuddha @ Nov 29 2004, 12:28 PM)
so what you guy call tonle sap? im sure they have the name for it.
We called it Bien Ho.
QUOTE (Azncrombieguy)
now can you tell us vietnamese people are so short? i've always wondered
QUOTE
it is a fact that viets are short
It's so partly due to genetic causes, my friend, just like a majority of Cambodian people are so dark. And this is a fact, too.

btw, this thread has nothing to do with the height of Vietnamese people.
don't you think it is also due to Food ? Most of the young Vietnamese i know, who were born and grew up abroad, fed like westerners, are no much smaller than westerners.
transtic
Nov 30 2004, 05:37 PM
^ I think it is due to diet. eg. i grew up eating mostly asian food, and i ended up being 5'8, my cuz is 6' - 6'1 and he eats mostly aussie food. Then again... his parents are around 5'6 and 5'3 while mine are like.. 5' and 5'4... lol
Byron
Nov 30 2004, 05:38 PM
Wanna know?
transtic
Nov 30 2004, 05:42 PM
what about your parents? :O.. mine are like midgets!!
Sideley
Nov 30 2004, 05:47 PM
QUOTE (Byron @ Dec 1 2004, 12:38 AM)
I'm 5'9.

Please, give your height in metric system. I thought Aussie use metric system ?
I'm 180 cm, when I was in Vietnam, didn' eat enough , hardly 200g of meat a year but, changed diet when arrived in USA then in SWitzerland , eating a lot of chocolate, swiss cheese ( and some French cheeses too), was not lucky enough to eat Vietnamese cook frequently ( Vietnamese ingredients very expensive here).
Azncrombieguy
Nov 30 2004, 07:14 PM
ummmm i dunno but imma take a guess hmmm saig@@k?
ChuonCheat_Khmer
Nov 30 2004, 08:06 PM
you faggot..mnbvc is you isn't it? your first two threads were in the viet and filipino chat. the same people who are mocking your pic.
Fil-Am
Nov 30 2004, 08:15 PM
QUOTE (Azncrombieguy @ Nov 30 2004, 08:14 PM)
ummmm i dunno but imma take a guess hmmm saig@@k?
Azncrombieguy
Nov 30 2004, 08:24 PM
QUOTE (ChuonCheat_Khmer @ Nov 30 2004, 09:06 PM)
you faggot..mnbvc is you isn't it? your first two threads were in the viet and filipino chat. the same people who are mocking your pic.
what are you talking about?? i only have one account here, i dont need to hide behind sh!t like you cowards. scared that you will loose your privileges on AF what yall need to do is go out and get a life or a girlfriend and stop wasteing your time on AF all concerned about whos ancestors where greater and sh!t. it doesnt change anything if your ugly like DieNa.. ahem ill stop there, then you are just plain ugly.
July_Rain
Nov 30 2004, 08:53 PM
QUOTE (Sideley @ Nov 30 2004, 06:23 PM)
QUOTE (July_Rain @ Nov 30 2004, 10:23 AM)
It's so partly due to genetic causes, my friend, just like a majority of Cambodian people are so dark. And this is a fact, too.

btw, this thread has nothing to do with the height of Vietnamese people.
don't you think it is also due to Food ? Most of the young Vietnamese i know, who were born and grew up abroad, fed like westerners, are no much smaller than westerners.
You misread my post.
I said it's party due to genetic causes, without mentioning but ofcourse another cause of it must be the diet.
Point_Dexter
Dec 1 2004, 02:11 AM
OMG this thread is hilarious.
You can measure short, but you cant measure ugly. ahahah
Dara
Dec 1 2004, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Nov 27 2004, 08:20 PM)
It doesn't mean anything. It's just a name
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Nov 28 2004, 01:05 PM)
Prey Nokor- eventually turned to a city called Gia Dinh city before French colonized- Then to Saigon city- and then Ho Chi Minh city
thanks for your answer..that's all i wanted to know.

and jeesh..what kind of a thread has this turned into? thanks for making yourself look bad people. some people just haven't any decency.
Doan Du
Dec 2 2004, 09:41 PM
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Nov 29 2004, 07:40 PM)
QUOTE
We have done enough harm to the Khmer people with our century-old political and economic control. At this rate, it wouldn't be too long before we make Khmer people a minority in their own land.
We?? who is we ?? you're not even Vietnamese ,damn minority ....

We = Vietnam
How do you know I am not Viet? What makes you think I am a minority?
Doan Du
Dec 2 2004, 09:44 PM
QUOTE (Sideley @ Nov 30 2004, 06:47 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Dec 1 2004, 12:38 AM)
I'm 5'9.

Please, give your height in metric system. I thought Aussie use metric system ?
I'm 180 cm, when I was in Vietnam, didn' eat enough , hardly 200g of meat a year but, changed diet when arrived in USA then in SWitzerland , eating a lot of chocolate, swiss cheese ( and some French cheeses too), was not lucky enough to eat Vietnamese cook frequently ( Vietnamese ingredients very expensive here).
Sideley,
I am also a Viet-Am who recently moved to Switzerland. I am in Lausanne (although not right now because I am on a trip). If you are around the area, let me know.
DaiNamViet
Dec 3 2004, 11:18 PM
QUOTE (Doan Du @ Dec 2 2004, 10:41 PM)
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Nov 29 2004, 07:40 PM)
QUOTE
We have done enough harm to the Khmer people with our century-old political and economic control. At this rate, it wouldn't be too long before we make Khmer people a minority in their own land.
We?? who is we ?? you're not even Vietnamese ,damn minority ....

We = Vietnam
How do you know I am not Viet? What makes you think I am a minority?
Didn't you say somewhere that you're an ethnic Hoa???
Doan Du
Dec 4 2004, 01:02 AM
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Dec 4 2004, 12:18 AM)
Didn't you say somewhere that you're an ethnic Hoa???
No, you are sorely mistaken. I have never made such a statement.
fiji
Dec 6 2004, 11:04 PM
Always flamewar
Wildkhmerbuddha is right. I've heard that Saigon means city in the jungle or soemthing that before. I've also heard of other meanings as well. Like Tay Cong, meaning gift to the west (the french) because the Nguyen pretty much gave South Vietnam to the french.
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