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Red Fox Ace



http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials...2/27/2003461972



Benefits of the ECFA:


• Increase GDP growth and size of economy
• Attract more FDI
• Avoid further marginalization of economy
• Benefit petroleum, steel, coal, plastics, machinery, textiles, petrochemical sectors



Drawbacks of the ECFA:

• Could harm Taiwan politically –dampen self-autonomy and promote unification
• Potential hollowing out of Taiwanese capital and technology
• Possible negative impact on small and medium-sized businesses
Hugham
QUOTE (Red Fox Ace @ Mar 2 2010, 07:42 PM) *

Drawbacks of the ECFA:

• Could harm Taiwan politically –dampen self-autonomy and promote unification
• Potential hollowing out of Taiwanese capital and technology
• Possible negative impact on small and medium-sized businesses


This will not harm Taiwan politics, only the EVIL DPP say that thing. It's even strengthen Taiwan politics supported by mainland Chinese and all Chinese around the world. Don't you realize that Taiwan international position fall because no overseas Chinese look highly on you anymore.

It also can't hollowing out of Taiwanese capital and technology. Actually Taiwan-China bad relation can hollowing out of Taiwanese capital and technology, because many of your businessmen choose to go underground through HK. In China, Taiwan companies are threatened as foreign companies.

If China and Taiwan join together, Taiwan soon get huge market access and unlimited supply on high skilled workers. It's not hollowing Taiwan capital and technology, it even strengthen Taiwan companies into world class companies like Toyota, Microsoft, Sony, etc. Taiwan will have abundance of capital and supremacy in technology like Huawei in Shenzhen.

Only idiot will say small-medium sized Taiwan companies will be out of business. Competition can make it happen, but everyone know that Taiwanese people are more educated and modern than mainland Chinese. Actually the good side is in Taiwan, Taiwan already win the competition even before started. Look at the case of Taiwan drink companies, WangWang and President, who is the giant and who is the loser now?

It is funny if someone said Taiwan will be dead, beaten by the mighty mainland Chinese businessmen. Only the EVIL DPP will spread fear to Taiwan people rather than giving a hope for better future. Taiwanese just a little mouse, scared and hide in their hole forever. Taiwanese forget that he has a great brother who willingly to do anything to make Taiwanese bigger and prosper. Taiwanese also forget that he is actually a super people.

I'm a good Chinese, a true Chinese gentlemen, a patriotic. I hope Taiwan GDP per capita can grow to USD 40000-50000. I also hope Taiwan companies can became world giants like those in US, Europe and Japan. Taiwan should better than S Korea and even Japan. Taipei should grow into world class city.
Red Fox Ace
QUOTE (Hugham @ Mar 4 2010, 06:28 AM) *
Don't you realize that Taiwan international position fall because no overseas Chinese look highly on you anymore.


Actually, the internationally community consists of over 190 nations, and the vast majority of them are non-Chinese. I fail to see what you're getting at.


QUOTE (Hugham @ Mar 4 2010, 06:28 AM) *
It also can't hollowing out of Taiwanese capital and technology. Actually Taiwan-China bad relation can hollowing out of Taiwanese capital and technology, because many of your businessmen choose to go underground through HK. In China, Taiwan companies are threatened as foreign companies.


How do you know that Taiwanese companies, brains, money won't just completely pack up and relocate to the mainland permanently?



QUOTE (Hugham @ Mar 4 2010, 06:28 AM) *
only the EVIL DPP say that thing. Only the EVIL DPP will spread fear to Taiwan people


Um.....

QUOTE (Hugham @ Mar 4 2010, 06:28 AM) *
I'm a good Chinese, a true Chinese gentlemen, a patriotic.


I salute you.



QUOTE (Hugham @ Mar 4 2010, 06:28 AM) *
I hope Taiwan GDP per capita can grow to USD 40000-50000.



I hope so too.
Hugham
QUOTE (Red Fox Ace @ Mar 4 2010, 09:23 PM) *
How do you know that Taiwanese companies, brains, money won't just completely pack up and relocate to the mainland permanently?


Off course Taiwan economy will flourish. Don't you see your own post about Taiwan GDP growth 9.22%.

Btw, China is Taiwan too. I believe they will outsourcing to find low cost workers, but this is not something bad, since Taiwan already outsourcing their companies to Vietnam and Indonesia. It's not so much different. Look at the case of S Korea and Japan, they successfully use China to grow their own GDP. The case will be like S Korea, but even deeper, because Taiwan is Chinese too, we have the same language and we both the same people too, no discrimination.

Talk about relocate companies. I don't believe it, since Taiwan has advantages over business law. Only some laws need to be changed to makes Taiwan an attractive place to stay and open a business. Like lowering heritage law (50% of heritage tax is crazy). Taiwan can also pass some law to make Taiwan even more attractive. Like low tax for example, even lower taxes for innovative business.

I believe Taiwan also need a major economy reform, to get full advantages. A transformation from OEM companies to branded companies. This is the time for Taiwan to enter information age. If you learn economy, you must be know what is the meaning of information age and their advantages over industrial and agriculture age.

The whole Taiwan population is small, smaller than a city like Tokyo and Shanghai. Information age in Taiwan is not that hard.

I believe Taiwan problem is lack of visionary leadership. I sometimes feel Taiwan leadership have a peasant mentality. Unlike S Korea leadership who are ex-CEO and mostly are big companies owners. They are very modern, ambitious, full of idea and visionary.

I can see how S Korea movie industry grow so fast, they even aim for Hollywood quality even Japan anime, while Taiwan movie industry stagnant. S Korea automobile industry starting to have high quality and good model, compete with Japan automobile. S Korea electronic products is world leader, their design and technology is superb. I believe the major different between Taiwan and S Korea is Taiwan lack of sophisticated management, lack of ambitious, lack of good design, lack of strong R&D, etc. Basically Taiwan lack of visionary. Taiwan already feel comfortable with current condition and even fear to move forward.

Taiwan also need to clustering their population to form a huge city, rather than spread them into small city in rural area. Rural people usually lack of creativity, ideas, and innovation compare with people in modern futuristic big city. 90% of Taiwan population need live in big city. Rural area of Taiwan need to be transformed into industrial agriculture like in US, using small number of human and huge machines. This will maximize Taiwan human resources into very modern and futuristic mentality of people, the leader of the world. The finest example of Chinese people.

Use China and re-organized Taiwan human resources, transform Taiwan economy to information age, makes Taiwan into an island of creativity, great ideas and innovation. Aim for big and perfection into smallest detail.

You forget what 国父 said, 我们先在跟他们学,但以后我们应该要比他们好。
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