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yuelight
Even tho he is communist but I'm still admire him kicking the french @$$
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c4qrZ08o2A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQjqs8Z7WZA

Vo Nguyen Giap used Sun Tzu Tactics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR4PZExLyv0
asean.asia
di you forget about the Nguy @$$ too? kiss
Cubanoo
And to be communist is "bad" for you Where you live in US ?

Giap was good against the French but not very good in the Vietnam war in fact he was replaced by another before 1972 the American talking about him all the time because they fight against him.

For me the better Vietnamese generals are Văn Tiến Dũng who beat the ARVN in 1974/75 and Lê Trọng Tấn who beat the Khmer Rouge

the kill ratio is that according by my different sources.

Final Vietnam war offensive:

NVA / NLF: 1 ; ARVN: 8 it do not included more than 200.000 POW.

Result: Taking all territory from south Vietnam was abandoned by the American.

Khmer Rouge Vietnam 1979

PVA: 1 ; Khmer Rouge: 9 (inc POW)

Result: All Cambodian territory taken, the Khmer Rouge run into Thailand they continue in the Guerrilla Warfare in low Scale

China Vietnam 1979

Viet Militias: 1 ; PLA : 3 (according with US sources)

Viet Militias: 1 ; PLA : 6 (according by Russian sources)

Result both sides claim victory, Vietnam continue occupied on Kampuchea, a pretty small Chinese advance but they do a major damage in all border civil area.

If we see the 1979 between China+ Khmer Rouge vs Vietnam the final radio can be:

Vietnam: 1 ; PLA + Khmer Rouge : 6 (according by US sources)

PS. I share some info who post this video in You tube.
asean.asia
Nguy are piece of cake. You do not need a good general to take on the Nguy. If a women was appointed as Commander, she could have easily defeated the Nguy. kiss.gif
vietnam
Húng nhở? embarassedlaugh.gif
asean.asia
I know. no one is better than an internet warrior af 'vietnam' kiss.gif
Cubanoo
there are all important the Viet commanders.

http://www.quansuvn.net/index.php?topic=1667.0

I am surprised I am not Asian and I know more than everyone here eek.gif
yuelight
Well Vietnam War could end in 1968 but General Giap couldn't get the people will behind his Tet offensive..why? because VC had a blacklist of VNCH associates and brutal murder thousand of peoples of Hue so people don't support that. If you watch the whole video you could see. There are a lot of brilliant Vietnamese generals during the Vietnam War but General Giap defeat the French at Dien Bien Phu put his name on the map.
Cubanoo
the Vietnam war could end in 1965 the American only taken it more long and kill a lot more people destroying all the country (Especially Their area South Vietnam), Al right Saigon looking well but just check some ex south Vietnamese provinces like Quang Tri are the most poorly places of Asia and Laos will a poor place between more than 30 year more caused by the unexplored American bombs.

the American always get War easy to Win.

*They Rape Iraq with a lot allied the first time

*They Rape Again Iraq with a lot allied The seccont Time

*They Rape Afghanistan with a Lot allied crying like idiots after 11S

*They Win The WWII against Japan and Nazi Germany in Soviet Union Side (Soviet Union Win the Most Importand Battles)

*As today US get military bases in Germany and Japan in fact this countries have a US military occupation today

So the American always looking easy adversary easy to beat Vietnam was a semi colonial country with people very poor for the American very easy target for expand their economical military influence..

In 1972 The Chinese - Soviet Relationship was in the worts point ever before the Chinese feel fear to the Communist Vietnamese influence in Asia with Soviet Support, so The Chinese replaced the American in SE asia.

In 1974 China Attack South Vietnam Also Paracel island and What do the American ? Only wash so it was pre accord between Washington and Beijing.

During the Vietnam war more than 300.000 south Vietnamese soldier die for save the life to American soldier but they are out of the American, Bocks , Propaganda, Movies and another US stupid things

And In 1979 the American Get the Chinese and Pol pot Side, Soviet Union Get Vietnamese side.

Vietnam win all their war against very evil powers but China and U.S win the economic war because Soviet Union Was broke in 1991.
vietnam
QUOTE (asean.asia @ Mar 1 2010, 11:54 PM) *
I know. no one is better than an internet warrior af 'vietnam' kiss.gif

?????!

Điếu hiểu chú mày muốn nói giề!!!
hitmonxiong
he was a great general for the NVA and Vietminh until he got replaced during the early 70s.
Buddhalove
General Giap voice was far better than many south vietnamese around here.
vietnam
QUOTE (Cubanoo @ Mar 2 2010, 02:55 AM) *
the Vietnam war could end in 1965 the American only taken it more long and kill a lot more people destroying all the country (Especially Their area South Vietnam), Al right Saigon looking well but just check some ex south Vietnamese provinces like Quang Tri are the most poorly places of Asia and Laos will a poor place between more than 30 year more caused by the unexplored American bombs.

the American always get War easy to Win.

*They Rape Iraq with a lot allied the first time

*They Rape Again Iraq with a lot allied The seccont Time

*They Rape Afghanistan with a Lot allied crying like idiots after 11S

*They Win The WWII against Japan and Nazi Germany in Soviet Union Side (Soviet Union Win the Most Importand Battles)

*As today US get military bases in Germany and Japan in fact this countries have a US military occupation today

So the American always looking easy adversary easy to beat Vietnam was a semi colonial country with people very poor for the American very easy target for expand their economical military influence..

In 1972 The Chinese - Soviet Relationship was in the worts point ever before the Chinese feel fear to the Communist Vietnamese influence in Asia with Soviet Support, so The Chinese replaced the American in SE asia.

In 1974 China Attack South Vietnam Also Paracel island and What do the American ? Only wash so it was pre accord between Washington and Beijing.

During the Vietnam war more than 300.000 south Vietnamese soldier die for save the life to American soldier but they are out of the American, Bocks , Propaganda, Movies and another US stupid things

And In 1979 the American Get the Chinese and Pol pot Side, Soviet Union Get Vietnamese side.

Vietnam win all their war against very evil powers but China and U.S win the economic war because Soviet Union Was broke in 1991.

What would a Cuban know about the Vietnam War? embarassedlaugh.gif Go home to Fidel, buddy. Your help during the VN War was recognized, now get lost!
Cubanoo
I am here for give a re education to us I working for Hanoi government!! embarassedlaugh.gif

so you guys are a kit yet need learn to much yet icon_smile.gif

The US media put $hit in you brain!! I will save us!!
vietnam
Try it again with me later after you finish with the ESL series. embarassedlaugh.gif
asean.asia
^ who doesnt know af 'vietnam' is an internet warrior in viet chat? kiss.gif
vietnam
Ok, comrade. embarassedlaugh.gif
Cubanoo
QUOTE (vietnam @ Mar 3 2010, 01:24 AM) *
Try it again with me later after you finish with the ESL series. embarassedlaugh.gif


ok pendejo icon_smile.gif
Sogesu
QUOTE (vietnam @ Mar 3 2010, 08:20 AM) *
What would a Cuban know about the Vietnam War? embarassedlaugh.gif Go home to Fidel, buddy. Your help during the VN War was recognized, now get lost!


@Vietnam,
Am I wrong if you are a descendant of a South Viet Army soldier? embarassedlaugh.gif Cubano is a foreigner but he knows about Vietnam better than many of us here. I really admire his great learning.
TINMAN
QUOTE (Cubanoo @ Mar 2 2010, 08:20 PM) *
I am here for give a re education to us I working for Hanoi government!! embarassedlaugh.gif

so you guys are a kit yet need learn to much yet icon_smile.gif

The US media put $hit in you brain!! I will save us!!


Please save us from the greedy fatcats.

Let's start a bloody revolution, kick out the fatcats, and redistribute land and wealth to the poor peasants.

We must honor the heroic peasants who are the backbone of culture and society.

Who's with me???

BTW, free spring rolls to the first 20 members.
Cubanoo
Is important to know more than 300.000 South Vietnamese soldier die for save US soldier lives (very sad right). and what do US for them ? Nothings

Who know American movie about the ARVN soldier ?? wow the American really appreciate their "friends"

In fact they was abandoned, went the Chinese get Paracel Archipelago and Waters what do the American? just washing I think and is very probability Nixon- Kissinger and Mao Pre Accord it in 1972




Check my topics about Richart Nixon and Kissinger work in Vietnam (In Spanish sorry)

http://guerradevietnam.foros.ws/t1408/henry-kissinger/
http://guerradevietnam.foros.ws/t1161/richard-nixon/
TINMAN
QUOTE (Cubanoo @ Mar 3 2010, 12:46 AM) *
Is important to know more than 300.000 South Vietnamese soldier die for save US soldier lives (very sad right). and what do US for them ? Nothings


Basically, the South fought to defend their homeland from the invading Northern communist....similar to Korea. See....was it that hard.

QUOTE
Who know American movie about the ARVN soldier ?? wow the American really appreciate their "friends"


That's Hollywood. The American audience is more interested and more willing to buy tickets to watch movies about their involvement.


Cubanoo
The NLF front do not was Communist part Communist but not all structure in Fact Ho Chi Minh was a lot more popular in the south than all South Vietnamese leaders

But the most important point It was a Internal Vietnam problem

The American do a illegal aggression destroyed all the country, kill a lot civilian infected the territory with agent orange , unexploded bombs and used the South Vietnamese soldiers like Human shield!!

QUOTE
That's Hollywood. The American audience is more interested and more willing to buy tickets to watch movies about their involvement.


Batman is so Stupid and but the people like that because get a lot publicity


Or Rambo in Vietnam ...


embarassedlaugh.gif

Easy to explain U.S need a "Loser" so is the ARVN the Loser No "America" that is because they were forgot.

The American have a lot money. But why they help them? see how they was early the 90s








See more here (I made this topic in Spanish also)
http://guerradevietnam.foros.ws/t1206/repr...s-de-la-guerra/
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