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barkerintokyo
So, I'm sure most have heard about the devastating earthquake in Niigata.

It's the worst earthquake since Kobe Earthquake but fortunately it occurred in an area sparsely populated.

Water, electricity, and gas lines have been cut and more than 10,000 people are homeless, living off of government rations and in limited number of school gyms and tents.

We need to increase awareness of the disaster throughout the world. After 9-11, a disaster that only killed less than 3000 people and left no one homeless, thousands of volunteers from around the world (including Japan) flew over to help. On the other hand, no one from any country is coming to help the Japanese.

What do you all think?
Mantis
R.I.P to the deceased ones...

I guess people aren't aware how devastating the quake actually was because the body count was rather deceiving, only 30-odd people have died correct? And I guess many foreign leaders thought Japanese emergency system (which is first-rate) was well capable of handling the disaster by itself... It's only poorer nations such as Turkey that desperately need outside help. I was sad to hear about the little girl who held on for 72 hours before she died. icon_sad.gif
CJK
i made a post about all the recent natural disasters hitting japan in the japanese chat.

anyhow, one disaster after another since beyond last week, even before tokage, is unfortunate.

Havent seen much media attention on japan as well.

If japan asks for assistance im sure they'll get it; many people are playing it down pretty much cuz there isnt much coverage on the evening news.
onepairofpant
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Oct 30 2004, 10:45 AM)
So, I'm sure most have heard about the devastating earthquake in Niigata.

It's the worst earthquake since Kobe Earthquake but fortunately it occurred in an area sparsely populated.

Water, electricity, and gas lines have been cut and more than 10,000 people are homeless, living off of government rations and in limited number of school gyms and tents.

We need to increase awareness of the disaster throughout the world. After 9-11, a disaster that only killed less than 3000 people and left no one homeless, thousands of volunteers from around the world (including Japan) flew over to help. On the other hand, no one from any country is coming to help the Japanese.

What do you all think?
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http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/new...0410270026.html

hmm... I dont know, I saw this a little while ago, not much but a kind aid from your neighbors
Titanium
No offense but it's pretty pathetic that you would compare an earthquake to a terrorist attack. 911 was far worse than some random earthquake in Japan. ALthough earthquakes are bad, atleast they are caused by mother nature and I'd much rather have 10000 homeless than 3000 dead. What the hell are you thinking?
barkerintokyo
You must be a republican. Are you a pro-lifer?

We Japanese feel that it is more important to care for the sufferings of the living. Once you die, you stop suffering. Yeah, <3000 deaths is terrible, but think of the suffering of >10,000 people.

Coming from a relatively stable country, you must not understand the power of earthquakes.
Titanium
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Oct 30 2004, 10:16 PM)
You must be a republican. Are you a pro-lifer?

We Japanese feel that it is more important to care for the sufferings of the living. Once you die, you stop suffering. Yeah, <3000 deaths is terrible, but think of the suffering of >10,000 people.

Coming from a relatively stable country, you must not understand the power of earthquakes.
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Nope not a pro-lifer here. So in other words, you care more about the the suffering of the living more than the dead? Well I guess that makes sense since the dead already died but what about the way those poor Americans died? The way they were burning, you know what that feels like? Ever think of that one? Or perhaps the families of the victims who have to deal with their losses? Do you even know how stupid you sound? Being a homeless person may suck but atleast he's alive and didn't roast like a steak. As for me not knowing what earthquakes feel like, I'm from California buddy so I think I would know and I would much rather survive an earthquake to be homeless rather than cooking inside of a burning building and then have it collapse on me. You must not value life very much do you? I suppose you'd rather be dead than homeless? Well if that's the way you feel, whatever floats your boat. May I suggest you take a few shots of cyanide or turn on your car with your garage closed. Thank God for carbon monoxide, atleast you'll still have your home icon_rolleyes.gif
barkerintokyo
What a coincidence that you come from California to swat my post? Or perhaps it's just an interesting lie you fabricated to make your post more powerful? I don't know. That's not my point.

The point of the matter is, you can't bring dead people back to life. Yeah, you might be able to make the people who were left behind feel better but I don't understand how perfect strangers can accomplish that feat. If I lost my entire family, I wouldn't want complete strangers who haven't lost anything come to tell me everything will be all right.

On the other hand, the suffering of people living after a physical disaster can be helped by aid. Now, I'm not requesting for aid or anything. I'm just noting that no one actually came. Now, maybe that's the correct choice, given that further earthquakes may cause aid workers to become victims and just more people that need to be saved.

It's interesting how Americans think that they are the center of the universe and that their problems are the biggest problems of the world. It doesn't matter if millions in Africa are dying of AIDS, nuclear weapons are in North Korea, Israelis are killing Palestinians, human rights are being blatantly violated in Nepal, China, and many other nations. What matters is only the <3000 who died 3 years ago and the very few American soldiers who killed themselves due friendly fire or "human error." People suffering now in petty little foreign countries like Japan and many others are petty problems compared to the "grand" and "important" problems that plague the almighty America. They are of no consequence to them.

This post was just to raise awareness of the plight of Niigata. This wasn't suppose to be an attack on any nation. But some people just happen to take everything that anyone says as some critique on something.
jonii-wanwan
There should be more public awareness about this matter.
When I watched it on the news, my heart nearly broke when I saw the number of dead increasing with the number of homeless.
They all flocked to the school halls which are cramped and all they slept on were the few blankets they had.
It's winter here in Japan, and it's ridiculously cold. These poor people should get aid.
I don't understand why there isn't that much media coverage. It was a 6 on the Japanese scale. A natural disaster.
Titanium
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Oct 31 2004, 09:38 AM)
What a coincidence that you come from California to swat my post? Or perhaps it's just an interesting lie you fabricated to make your post more powerful? I don't know. That's not my point.

The point of the matter is, you can't bring dead people back to life. Yeah, you might be able to make the people who were left behind feel better but I don't understand how perfect strangers can accomplish that feat. If I lost my entire family, I wouldn't want complete strangers who haven't lost anything come to tell me everything will be all right.

On the other hand, the suffering of people living after a physical disaster can be helped by aid. Now, I'm not requesting for aid or anything. I'm just noting that no one actually came. Now, maybe that's the correct choice, given that further earthquakes may cause aid workers to become victims and just more people that need to be saved.

It's interesting how Americans think that they are the center of the universe and that their problems are the biggest problems of the world. It doesn't matter if millions in Africa are dying of AIDS, nuclear weapons are in North Korea, Israelis are killing Palestinians, human rights are being blatantly violated in Nepal, China, and many other nations. What matters is only the <3000 who died 3 years ago and the very few American soldiers who killed themselves due friendly fire or "human error." People suffering now in petty little foreign countries like Japan and many others are petty problems compared to the "grand" and "important" problems that plague the almighty America. They are of no consequence to them.

This post was just to raise awareness of the plight of Niigata. This wasn't suppose to be an attack on any nation. But some people just happen to take everything that anyone says as some critique on something.
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Well considering this is the internet, everyone has reason to skeptical of everyone. I am proud Californian, that's the truth if you don't believe me then don't believe me, couldn't care less now moving along.

You're right, you can't bring back dead people to life which is why it's a tragedy as opposed to being homeless which is more along the lines of a problem. I can pretty much guarantee you those homeless in Japan due to the earthquakes would much rather be in that situation that roasting inside of a burning building, unless of course they are suicidal by nature which is not out of the question either.

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"On the other hand, the suffering of people living after a physical disaster can be helped by aid."

Well kid that's exactly my whole point, these people can be helped which is why it's a problem to be solved rather than tragedy like 911. As for no one coming to help, most countries do send concern after something like this occurs however they are usually too busy to deal with the problems going on in their own backyard than worry about the problems of someone elses.

And it's interesting how you're equally biased and selfish to think Japanese problems are the center of the universe. Hey you're right Americans do have that kind of mentality but then again so the Japanese and just about every other country in the world, it's natural and expected. Not trying to excuse it but just giving an explanation and as chauvinistic as Americans maybe, the bottom line is 3000 dead is still far worse than 10000 homeless. You've again proven your biased ignorance on just every topic dealing with Japan, congratulations once again.
barkerintokyo
Niigata dams are broken. Water level has risen and cities are now underwater. Many houses are submerged.

Tremendous efforts are being made to move dumps.

Situation is worsening for Niigata citizens.

Che Jiu (I know I'm spelling this wrong) just yesterday announced donating tons of money to Niigata. Her money is appreciated but I just can't help but thinking she did that in order to increase her popularity in Japan. But, nonetheless, I still thank her, whatever her motives.

Whether it be altruism or for personal gain, help is greatly appreciated in Niigata. Thank you all for reading.

EDIT: Excuse me for the mistake I made earlier. I meant to say 10man people were made homeless. In English one hundred thousand (100,000) people.
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