Ok, my Vietnamese isn't too hot. Not sure about the spelling but you get the idea right?
My family is from the south and I was taught to pronouce it with an "R" kinda sound. But a friend of mine from the north pronouces it with an "L", which had me laughing for hours.
I'm not saying it's wrong, just pronounced differently. I heard this word was taken from the French, but don't quote me on it.

So how do you guys pronounce it?

People from the north always speak Vietnamese funny. I can never understand what they are talking about.

yep I agree

hehehe I'm from the middle/south, so I speak tiéng Nam

máy nguoi bác k`y nói chuyen Rachel khong hieu gì hét hehehe

Yeah I agree with you guys to a certain extent. I was taught that the "Bac" dialect is the proper way to pronouce Vietnamese words. Yet I don't understand if this is true, why is the "Nam" dialect more popular.

I speak with the nam accent but I find that those who do usually are very ignorant. They seem to make fun of all accents and laugh when others don't say anything about ANY accent to the point they do(hue or nam or other misc central accents) But then again Brits think american accent is funny and vice versa. So it's normal.

And I can't say for sure if Bac accent is the true accent but hey South vietnam only existed not too long ago so that rules them out. Nam accent isn't more popular it's just most refugees who escaped speak with the nam accent so thats all you hear.

Who the hell would say "ca lem?" Babies?

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And people, North Viets would say the same in relation to south as well.

And on the relating issue, Ca Rem = South. North just say "kem"

I say Ca Rem.

What's Ca Lem? Hue or something?

Hue say "kem"

I don't think theres nothing wrong with saying it as "Ca lem". Just very different to to you and me.
Now that I just learn people from Hue say it as "Kem", I should have added that extra option.
My fault for being ignorant.

Both Kem and Ca Rem.

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Simply, It's called " kem"

Hmmm, interesting. However, say you ask this sentence in Vietnamese, "Does anyone want some ice-cream?" it sounds a little odd with we use just "Kem".

its " ai muon an kem ko ? " thank you

Thanks for the reply.
Is the "Ko" suppose to be "Khong"? As in "No"?
Ai muon an kem khong?

yes it is , my fault !!

Ca Rem usually refers to ice-cream sticks. Kem refers to ice-cream in general.

lol , people who pronounce ca lem is ngo^.ng !!

ai si crem

how about nước đá hehehehee just kidding

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中國人不是說 冰版或者雪糕嗎﹖

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中国人是叫冰淇淋

that's english man..

icecream
ai si cream

i say ice cream :p
Ca Rem. never heard anyone called it Ca Lem.

i just say "kem"

what did he write ??

Ca lem is usually says by young kids sometime even teenagers say it, i heard it alot. but Kem and Ca` Rem is most used by the whole VN region. It is true that Northern people say true VNese accent, but the hardest to listen to is the middle and little further up toward the north. It took me two years to totally understand what they talks about. I can speak at least 4 different accents, but not as good as true native accent (Hoai Linh is very good example) i'm good but not as good as him, (haven't used any of that for awhile now)

as i said people or kids who pronounce ca` lem is ngo^.ng , mostly people say kem or carem (very rare)

Then how do you say Lip Stick?

mo^i son

really?

i like how the vietnamese language has very literal words and meanings

is she..

Does Mo^i = lip, son = paint?

You got the Mo^i right, but so'n and son is two difference meaning, son= a pot uses to cook and and so'n is paint. But the correct word for lip stick is Mo^i Xon not son.

Mo^i Xon?
I was just wonder becuase Khmer call Ice cream and Lip Stik, Ca Rem.

Wow, I didn't know that. That's something new I learnt today.
As with Xon, does that mean to "breath"?

No, Xon has nothing to do with "breath", breath = tho'?, but if you add another word such as xi' xo.n = lemon question kinda like. But this word xon is unique, very little use of it, only time that i recalled for this word is xon pha^'n = make up, to^ xon, die^?m pha^'n = put the make up on, or xon pha^'n lo`e loe.t = too much make up.....other than that i don't recalls we use it for anything else, unless we add some little marks such as ^,., ', `, ?, ~ then it has another meaning and not as xon any more. I'm glad that you know it now.

You've confused me even more.
What is the actual meaning of "xon"?

xon= lipstick or make up in general

Ong Moi Son (lip stick)

pronounce "Ca Lem" usually speak by Vietnamese -Chinese, North & Central people. South people call 'Ca Rem"

OK, now that everyone has got his/her say...!

1/ The correct Vietnamese word for ice cream is KEM. It comes from the French words Crème Glacée (which means "cream" that has been "iced").

In South Vietnam, people pronounce the R, so they think it's better to say it the French way "crème". But most Vietnamese can't pronounce correctly CR, so it became Cờ-Rem, then finally "Cà-Rem" (rolling the RR). But the Chinese Hoa still cannot pronounce the R, and so it became also "Cà Lem". Today's "ice cream" used to be called "iced cream" in English...

2/ Now, a tube of lipstick is said "1 ống môi son".

NAM_BACHHO has got it right; sorry, justingu, the word Xon doesn't exist in Vietnamese.

"Son" is a colour (the only colour that existed for lipstick: ochre vermilion).

"Môi son má phấn"... == with make-up (talking also of colours: vermilion lips and rosy cheeks).

3/ ShanghaiBB:
ice == nước đá (lạnh) == water, stoned (cold).

hmmm i gotta look it up that word "xon" "son" now, thank you for telling me btw, i was a little not so sure about that, hehehe haven't read vietnamese for awhile now, kinda forgot , but how about this, Mai to^i di Ha` Lo^.i, mua ca'i Lo^`i, ve La^'u co'm Le^'p????hehehehe , oh forget to mention, isn't odd to call "ong moi son"?? instead of "ca^y moi son"???

1/ Are you talking about the pronunciation of peasants in Bùi Chu + Phát Diệm?

2/ ống means a stick that is hollow == a tube, that can contain something inside, e.g. "ống nước" (water hose).

For the last 150 years South Vietnam was the melting pot for people of Cambodia, India, Cham, Vietnam, Hoa, Khách, Tiều, plus a lot of Tày, Thổ, Mường... and despite that, the South spoken language is only a subset of the Vietnamese language, for the people tend to skip anything that's difficult to pronounce!!! "ống" is a difficult word!? "soong" (a cooking pan), also, with double O, is erroneously written "son"...?

So, when you hear "coong ơi, đi yề ăng côm !!!", it means "con ơi, đi về ăn cơm !!!" (children, let's go home for meal now)

3/ ShanghaiBB, this is for you:

Do you know why there was this saying in the South?

"ngày thì chị chị em em, đêm thì cho nếm cà-lem nước dừa!" 2

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hahaha.. 2 2 that's a good one, yes, Vietnamese in the south or most parts of the south has its own "slang". i know all this, but since it is a long time for me to refresh my memory, thank you. hehehe...how about this one, "me`n det quo'i, le`m en chi lea rua'?", or a story like this: one guy came from SG and married a girl from the middle, then when she got into the family, she always says or asks, "ma^`n rang ru?a" instead of "co' sao hong, hay co viec gi' hong?" then the hubby explain to her that in the south, we uses " sao" not "rang", then one day she go to the market, some guy hit her and ran away with his scooter, she lost a few teeth, then she came home, he hubby asked her if she's ok, then she said" anh oi, em bi. ma^.t he^.t ma^`y ca'i sao. hubby...

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HI guys, New person here. I'm hue and i say stuff like that too. Rang, mo, ri, and yeah. About saying ice cream, I say Kem or Ca rem. I think this has been stated before, but kem is like the ice cream, you know when you eat it from a bowl with a spoon. Ca rem is said when you eat ice cream on a stick. some of you guys say that Nam people say Ca Rem. However, i have met plenty of Nam people and they all say Ca Lem. So which one do you guys actually use?

About the different accents and whichever is correct. Nam is not really correct because they make the H and V silent. Bac is not really correct beacuse the make the D without the stick thingy across it sound like a Z. Hue is basically confusing to both nam and bac people because of the way we pronouce the words due to the accent marks and vocabulary(trust me, none of my friends understand me when i'm speaking. Especially when i use rang and stuff). However, to the people who speak whichever accent it is correct to speak that way. So to get to the point, none of the accents are actually correct. It's all about the perspective.

haha this mite b kinda late but i heard someone said that people from the north actually speak proper viet then people in the middle and south. but i still cant understand them thou lol