The new Evos are damn physically hot!

Okay, my question is, with the routine proper maintenance, and just the basic mods such as exhaust, headers, and an intake, will the Evo be as reliable as a Honda Accord? Or will the Evo engine hit at least 200k miles. Mitsu turbo engines arent known for their reliability, nor their resale values. And you do not see anymore 1995-1999 Eclipse turbos on the road anymore at all. They are all in the junkyard....its a shame. And you still see too many 1992-1995 Civic coupes on the road still..what does that tell you about Hondas.

These cars are damn expensive also, an EVO can run you about 36k with decent options.

Simple engineering ...
Go fast and burn out early
Go slower and you'll last til the end of time

If I could do it again, I'd still pick my 2008 STi... You can make massive power on the stock internals on the Evo though, have fun with the 6 speed tranny .

Not just DSM but that would go for all forced induction application, factory or not. N/A FTMFW

^but on another note...toyota = turbo king....people just don't know it

reliable, cheap, performance....take 2

This has been my experience as well, is Mitsubishi just unreliable or do people abuse them? How do you strike the balance between fun/fast driving and making sure you don't wear everything down?

I heard alot about DSM and problems past 100k. Never owned one though. Are the newer ones still like this?

Naturally aspirated V8 Lexus IS-F for example, got the 5.0 litter V8 developed from the one in LS600.

theres no replacement for displacement

.......what about quality?

How about the Eclipse?

my friend's Evo X is at the dealer for Check Engine Light....lol

so go figure

certain year dsm's suffer from bad cranks (search crank walk). it can be fixed but people don't usually do that till they build their internals. eclipse and quality usually doesn't go together. if you want power and reliability, look into a c5 z06. it's fast, handles well and is reliable

turbocharged cars can be reliable. it has more parts so those things can cause problems that n/a cars don't see. reliability depends on the maintenance of the owner.

So would the WRX STI be a better option over the Lancer as far as reliability is concerned? The STI is coming back in 4 door form for 2011.

One thing I can tell you for sure that in the older Impreza, people dont buy them for the way they look

On the serious note though:

In term of performance: STi is faster in straightline due to more power, EVO own the corner around the track due to better brake and handling. In term of reliability: Subaru is better company compare to Mitsu that is going of business.

After doing some research on of 2004 STI"s they seem to have low reliability ratings 2 stars out of 5.

Its funny because 1990 Nissan 300zx turbos have high reliability ratings. I guess when it comes to turbo cars for the long run the big Japanese 3(Honda, Toyota, Nissan) are the ones to go with and the underdogs(Mitsubishi, Subaru) are for a short thrill.

+1

For daily drive, Honda make the most powerful I4. For serious performance, Nissan's I6, V6 and RWD flatform is the way to go. For luxury comfort driving, can't go wrong with Toyota V8.

+1

For daily drive, Honda make the most powerful I4. For serious performance, Nissan's I6, V6 and RWD flatform is the way to go. For luxury comfort driving, can't go wrong with Toyota V8.

Um, no.... It's waaaaaaaaaaaay easier to make power in an Evo than an STi.... Stock for stock, the evo will beat the STi.

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gr-members-jou...driven-sti.html

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that's my STi, I made 350 WHP on a conservative tune @ 21psi, all that on an evo will get you 400+.

you can hit 400whp too if it wasn't fo the "conservative" tune. you have the turbo, exhaust, clutch and fuel mods to easily handle more.

you planning on going with a standalone ecu?

Here's a comparison between Evo and Sti, stock to stock

http://www.tvduck.com/frame.php?epi=210780&view=110026

Yes sir, but right now I'm building up my block. Going with a Rotated twinscroll 35R setup. You're right though, I can make over 400 WHP, but I'm not going to that territory with cast pistons and $hitty ringlands . Also going with Meth injection , was gonna go E85, but no stations for that in Fresno.

T51R =]

Too much turbo for me. If I was going to go with something that big, I'd rather get a Precision turbo, or a Borg Warner. Not saying that the T51R is a bad turbo or anything. It's not ideal for me because I don't care about going fast in a straight line. I wanna do time attack/auto X, dont care for drags.

^ what my buddy did was put in a T51R on camry and that was great for peak power but takes time to spool...so it's fast on highways and $hit but tracking isnt so great
solution to that...TRD bolt on super charger...literally lifted the powerband up so there's plenty of low end torque from the supercharger and good hp boost too and there's no high end loss.

but i haven't heard of superchargers for subies...i guess twins?! =D

no supercharger for subies but can be done if u have money. There's a guy comp charging his subie on nasioc looks beastly but it's taking him a long time to finish. He got a supercharger off a Benz and is running it with a rotated twinscroll 42R.

oh damn..that's some really serious fabricating...


and both of my cars are in the shop...one is being gutted...one is waiting to be gutted.

and my finger nails are filthy

Not really a fan of the Evo. We looked into purchasing an older model (Evo 5/6) as the newer ones look look plasticy. Got put off by the cost of running them. A few people we spoke to told us that they owned one for a few months, but ended up selling as cost of fuel was a problem.

Actually, I think I'm biased. I don't like the look of the Evo and frankly, we have too many cars.

I don't give a $hit about what anyone says. The evo will have an advantage over the Sti in terms of power and handling.

Now, throw in a swapped Gc8 into the mix and it's a whole different story, right Nisan?

Edit: holy crap this thread is old.

I Hate to admit it from a GR (08+ STi) owner, but it's true. It all comes down to whether you want the computer to control where you go or whether you want to control where you go. I've driven the EVO X and it will out perform my STi when it was stock in terms of power and handling. I got the STi because it was practical, awesome grocery getter, and great for hauling carcasses

Doesn't the STi have better potential though? Better layout + weight distribution.

That's all myth lol.

Hmm...I remember reading somewhere that the boxer sits behind the front axle, so it's hardly a myth. The Evo's engine is further up front.

LOL, it may look good on paper, but go drive one and you will disagree.

how about you go out and drive both.

an ingenious design, mitsubishi lancer the language of the road