EazyMoney
Aug 15 2009, 02:11 PM
Japan had invaded and try to colonize the Whole Asia, stretch all the way to Indonesia? Why they didn't try to colonize Australia? After all, Australia is huge, underpopulated, alot of resources. Is that because they were occpuied by the Anglos and therefore Japan was afraid to touch them.
Instead Japan try to colonize the overpopulated areas of Asia. That was mistake, the western countries who successfuly colonized like the Africa, America, Australia, they did so by doing it far far away from their homeland.
Instead Japan try to do the Sh!t in its own immedate neighborhood.. That was dumb...
Picking on the same race of its own is a cowardly act. Don't you think?
If Japan just take Australia from the anglos, then leave the rest of Asia alone, then that wouldn't be WWII, and suffered from atomic bomb and proabaly Australia would still under Japan today..
Their War planners were both discriminating and dumb.
samnang
Aug 15 2009, 07:38 PM
They should have concentrated on capturing the Russian Far East instead. It's one of the most natural resource/oil-rich places on Earth. Just a hand-full of those arctic islands probably have more oil than the entire Australian continent.
CJK
Aug 15 2009, 08:49 PM
Why didn't they attempt to colonize Australia?
It was probably part of their plans, but Australia is much more further away from Japan than any of the immediate surrounding countries.
They didnt discriminate, after all Indonesia at the time was called the Dutch East Indies, occupied by the Netherlands, a european nation.
Not to mention invade and occupy many American pacific islands and several Alaskan Aleutian islands, which was probably their biggest mistake.
Their plans to invade only asian countries is false, territory is territory whether the land is home to asians, whites, or any other race.
manko
Aug 15 2009, 08:51 PM
QUOTE (CJK @ Aug 15 2009, 09:49 PM)

Why didn't they attempt to colonize Australia?
It was probably part of their plans, but Australia is much more further away from Japan than any of the immediate surrounding countries.
They didnt discriminate, after all Indonesia at the time was called the Dutch East Indies, occupied by the Netherlands, a european nation.
Not to mention invade and occupy many American pacific islands and several Alaskan Aleutian islands, which was probably their biggest mistake.
Their plans to invade only asian countries is false, territory is territory whether the land is home to asians, whites, or any other race.
Dutch East Indies
French Indochine
British Malaya
Seized German New Guinea after WWI.
kaizen
Aug 15 2009, 09:15 PM
QUOTE (samnang @ Aug 15 2009, 08:38 PM)

They should have concentrated on capturing the Russian Far East instead. It's one of the most natural resource/oil-rich places on Earth. Just a hand-full of those arctic islands probably have more oil than the entire Australian continent.
Invading Russia was the last thing japan wanted to do during ww2. Not to mention, their manchuko army was completely obliterated by Zhukov's siberian forces.
splur
Aug 16 2009, 12:00 AM
Colonize? Lol, no. Don't confuse Japanese nationalism with colonization. Japan attempted to colonize, more accurately rule their immediate neighbors because they were within their spheres of influence. Japan made it as far as Korea and Taiwan, China showed stiff resistance against their military advancements.
Although around the time of WWII, Japan did advance as far as Indonesia in 1942, their supply lines were already stretched quite thin by that point. It would've been futile to try and take any British territory. Japan did not want to take on Russia either, considering throughout WWII Russia rather ignored the Pacific theater concentrating mostly on Europe.
Looking in hindsight, there's a lot of things Germany and Japan could've done different and probably would've been much more successful. Luckily for us, they didn't.
DutchEastIndiesMan
Aug 16 2009, 01:47 AM
Japan was already over stretching it's resource by the time they reach PNG and couldn't even take Port Moresby. They hid this problem by initiating bombing and submarine raids all around Australia which creates a sense of insecurity and uncertainty in the Aust. population this giving Japan more time to recuperate from their lack of resources. No doubt Australia is part of what they want.
I personally think Japan should have create a front in Siberia, this would help Germany's war effort on the Ost front. Germany could knock around 5000-8000 Russian tanks in a month (not sure real figures) and Russian could produce 10000+ in a month while Russian could knock around 80-100 German tanks in a month and Germany due to American and British bombing raids could only produce around 50-75 tanks in a month. Most of these tanks and soldiers came from Siberia. If Japan could create another front or at least initiate raids over Siberia this would greatly help the Axis powers war effort.
Like Splur said the Axis powers could have done so much more but they didn't.
kaizen
Aug 16 2009, 01:10 PM
Japan did try to invade Russia in 1939 but it was a complete failure.
Also, Germany asked japan to assault Russia from the east, but they simply refused because of their loss at the border skirmish with Soviets.
Not to mention, japan was way too busy dealing with south east asia.
Gideon
Aug 6 2010, 12:56 AM
What I'm curious about is if Japan never attacked any American lands, would they of won the war? The U.S. was standing idly by as Japan started its campaign in Asia and only stepped in after pearl harbor. Without U.S. intervention I'm sure the Japanese would of gotten what they wanted.
I don't know if the US would've retaliated if Japan invaded Australia. What I do know is that Japan was worried that the US would so they attacked the US fleet first. They didn't feel that their attack on Pearl Harbor finished the job since an American carrier was still somewhere out there and there were US military airports in the Pacific such as Midway. So the Japanese navy got far apart and were too weak to reach Australia and win Midway.
layersuck
Aug 6 2010, 08:24 AM
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chiuchimu
Aug 6 2010, 09:45 AM
Australian fauna stopped us. We are afraid of the Kangaroos and blood sucking Koalas.
TheDefeated
Sep 13 2010, 07:28 PM
Australia is already hating us Asian for decades even now so we should hate them for opium war, atomic bombs, Indochina war and how they took over Taiwan, Philippine etc
Cha
Sep 13 2010, 08:26 PM
QUOTE (TheDefeated @ Sep 14 2010, 09:28 AM)

Australia is already hating us Asian for decades even now so we should hate them for opium war, atomic bombs, Indochina war and how they took over Taiwan, Philippine etc
FieryOFTheEast
Sep 13 2010, 08:35 PM
QUOTE (chiuchimu @ Aug 6 2010, 07:45 AM)

Australian fauna stopped us. We are afraid of the Kangaroos and blood sucking Koalas.
and Dingossssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
SyedHussein
Sep 13 2010, 09:29 PM
QUOTE
I don't know if the US would've retaliated if Japan invaded Australia. What I do know is that Japan was worried that the US would so they attacked the US fleet first. They didn't feel that their attack on Pearl Harbor finished the job since an American carrier was still somewhere out there and there were US military airports in the Pacific such as Midway. So the Japanese navy got far apart and were too weak to reach Australia and win Midway.
Japan lack the resources of the Western nations. Unlike Western nations, Japan doesn't have oversea colonies to provide them with resources needed. most of their resources came from occupied Chinese territories and oversea trades. In fact, japan were provoked into attacking pearl harbor because US and Britain impossed an embargo on the island of Japan. The whole point of this attack is to secure resource rich area in the British Malaya and Bornea, and Dutch East Indies.
In comparison, japan industrial capacity can never match US industrial capacity and the japanese knew this for a fact. They've expected coordinated Allied counterattack as early as six month after the Pearl harbor. what the japanese don't expected is the unrestricted submarine warfare initiated by the Americans. japanese merchant shippings that transported vital resources from East Indies were an easy target for the american subs. japan never developed a convoy system like the brits does in the Atlantic. Japan merchantmens were travelling unescorted.
TheDefeated
Sep 15 2010, 10:08 AM
I don't know this history but one thing i know for sure is the fact that Japan did put up a good fight during the WW2. Whether everyone like it or not we EAsian should be proud of it just like how some White people are proud of Hitler....lol
Seres1091
Oct 3 2010, 04:28 PM
QUOTE (TheDefeated @ Sep 15 2010, 10:08 AM)

I don't know this history but one thing i know for sure is the fact that Japan did put up a good fight during the WW2. Whether everyone like it or not we EAsian should be proud of it just like how some White people are proud of Hitler....lol
Fool!!! Only German/Neo-Nazis are proud of Hitler. No EAsian IS PROUD OF MURDERING JAPANESE EXCEPT THEMSELVES. I hope you're not Chinese, because that comment brought shame to all living Chinese and our ancestors!!!
catsoup
Oct 3 2010, 04:36 PM
QUOTE (Seres1091 @ Oct 3 2010, 04:28 PM)

Fool!!! Only German/Neo-Nazis are proud of Hitler. No EAsian IS PROUD OF MURDERING JAPANESE EXCEPT THEMSELVES. I hope you're not Chinese, because that comment brought shame to all living Chinese and our ancestors!!!

the defeated is from vietnam and his iq is over 9000
you may not always understand him
9lantern
Oct 3 2010, 10:43 PM
QUOTE (chiuchimu @ Aug 7 2010, 12:45 AM)

Australian fauna stopped us. We are afraid of the Kangaroos and blood sucking Koalas.
They probably hesitated to attack Australia because Australia is a
death-trap.
Everything there will kill you. Even the platypus.
ohimug
Oct 6 2010, 05:58 AM
QUOTE (EazyMoney @ Aug 15 2009, 03:11 PM)

Japan had invaded and try to colonize the Whole Asia, stretch all the way to Indonesia? Why they didn't try to colonize Australia? After all, Australia is huge, underpopulated, alot of resources. Is that because they were occpuied by the Anglos and therefore Japan was afraid to touch them.
Instead Japan try to colonize the overpopulated areas of Asia. That was mistake, the western countries who successfuly colonized like the Africa, America, Australia, they did so by doing it far far away from their homeland.
Instead Japan try to do the Sh!t in its own immedate neighborhood.. That was dumb...
Picking on the same race of its own is a cowardly act. Don't you think?
If Japan just take Australia from the anglos, then leave the rest of Asia alone, then that wouldn't be WWII, and suffered from atomic bomb and proabaly Australia would still under Japan today..
Their War planners were both discriminating and dumb.
why would they want to invade what was practically a desert...Australia is basically one big desert
ohimug
Oct 6 2010, 06:00 AM
QUOTE (TheDefeated @ Sep 13 2010, 08:28 PM)

Australia is already hating us Asian for decades even now so we should hate them for opium war, atomic bombs, Indochina war and how they took over Taiwan, Philippine etc
what since when did AUstralia take over Taiwan and Philippines??
TheDefeated
Oct 13 2010, 07:16 AM
QUOTE (ohimug @ Oct 6 2010, 07:00 AM)

what since when did AUstralia take over Taiwan and Philippines??
Canada, UK, America, France etc ...same $hit man just playing their games anyway
KraterosHellas
Oct 20 2010, 04:56 AM
QUOTE (ohimug @ Oct 6 2010, 06:58 AM)

why would they want to invade what was practically a desert...Australia is basically one big desert
isn''t it because of the coral reefs. well at least u get a base for ur miitary
Nostylez
Aug 6 2011, 08:52 PM
Because Australian accent sounds horrible.
G'day maaaaaate !!!!
IMCrAZy
Aug 8 2011, 04:26 PM
Because we were fighting on way too many fronts as it is etc: china, SE Asia, phillipines, and many small island battles against the US
pochi
Aug 9 2011, 12:04 PM
QUOTE (SyedHussein @ Sep 14 2010, 11:29 AM)

Japan lack the resources of the Western nations. Unlike Western nations, Japan doesn't have oversea colonies to provide them with resources needed. most of their resources came from occupied Chinese territories and oversea trades. In fact, japan were provoked into attacking pearl harbor because US and Britain impossed an embargo on the island of Japan. The whole point of this attack is to secure resource rich area in the British Malaya and Bornea, and Dutch East Indies.
Yes.
In response to Japan's invasion in China, USA and UK imposed oil embargo on Japan. Japan wanted to get oil in Dutch East Indies (Indonesia). To clear the way from Indonesia thru Japan, they needed to eliminate the White powers out of SE asia. Australia is not on its way to Japan, so they did not bother the country.
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2129.html
MarrickvilleMauler
Aug 9 2011, 07:58 PM
QUOTE (Gideon @ Aug 6 2010, 12:56 AM)

What I'm curious about is if Japan never attacked any American lands, would they of won the war? The U.S. was standing idly by as Japan started its campaign in Asia and only stepped in after pearl harbor. Without U.S. intervention I'm sure the Japanese would of gotten what they wanted.
The Japanese could of achieved their objectives if they would of treated the native people with respect. Regarding China, there was a lot of powerful Chinese warlords that not only opposed Chiang Kai Shek but also despised communism, and they could of very easily easily threw their lot in with the Japanese and Imperial Japan would of certainly achieved their 'Chinese Empire' with their help. But since these Chinese warlords saw how cruelly the Japanese were treating their own countrymen, they fought alongside Chiang and his KMT army.
This is evident when unlike the British that built up a Chinese port like Hong Kong, and proceeded to turn it into the modernised and industrailised city it is today. The Japanese on the other hand pillaged and raped Nanking, destroying an entire generation and history of the city.
Megapower
Aug 15 2011, 10:32 PM
Australia is as large as China, but with the population of medium tier Chinese city.
Piece of cake.
SemperFidelis
Aug 16 2011, 06:03 AM
QUOTE (Megapower @ Aug 16 2011, 08:02 AM)

Australia is as large as China, but with the population of medium tier Chinese city.
Piece of cake.
defended by countless poisonous snakes, spiders, insects and animals.
hkitagawa
Sep 8 2011, 04:20 AM
It is very simple question!In Japan the interest was not to colonize other countries.
If you know what happened with the central American civilizations,
you will certainly try to make a huge wall to avoid the western countries to. Invade and take and destroy everything.
The land, your wife, your children, culture and everything.
QUOTE (EazyMoney @ Aug 15 2009, 02:11 PM)

Japan had invaded and try to colonize the Whole Asia, stretch all the way to Indonesia? Why they didn't try to colonize Australia? After all, Australia is huge, underpopulated, alot of resources. Is that because they were occpuied by the Anglos and therefore Japan was afraid to touch them.
Instead Japan try to colonize the overpopulated areas of Asia. That was mistake, the western countries who successfuly colonized like the Africa, America, Australia, they did so by doing it far far away from their homeland.
Instead Japan try to do the Sh!t in its own immedate neighborhood.. That was dumb...
Picking on the same race of its own is a cowardly act. Don't you think?
If Japan just take Australia from the anglos, then leave the rest of Asia alone, then that wouldn't be WWII, and suffered from atomic bomb and proabaly Australia would still under Japan today..
Their War planners were both discriminating and dumb.
Yearofthedragon
Jan 18 2012, 10:33 PM
Japan invaded Australia??

. Japanese are West Worshipping animals during the World War 2 Japanese considered themselves European. We can always see Japanese with plastic surgery hig nose and blonde dyed hairs. Even their women have David Beckham's hairstyle pubic hair.
AsiaticGlory
Jan 25 2012, 04:41 PM
In the future, Australia will be an extension of Arabia and India. The Asians of Australia will be overwhelmed by them and thus Asian Australians should immigrate to the Pacific Northwest which is the overseas Asians' best chance at existing.
Overseas Asians have two choices. We can be like the Huns and Seljuks and mix with non-Asians until our descendants are no longer Asian or we can be like the Kazakhs and Kyrgyz and remain Asian while establishing a new Asian society.
Ideodygreasse
Feb 3 2012, 08:41 PM
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