when me and my girl go out with some of my white friends and their japanese gf they seem the look down on us. i guess they thinking "white is right" i love my girl to death and i would do anything for her but i can't stand when they call me "blackanese" i almost got into a fight with one of the marines even if he was a higher rank then me i'm not just going to sit there and let you call my girl or me that name. when i first came to japan i become friends with alot of japanese girls but when they found out i was african-american it was all over lol. it funny how this stuff happens i'm a good person i was raised by my father to treat women like a queen and be respectful. Then when a white boy came in town he has a girl on his arm in 10min. but i think that people in japan are becoming more open-minded about other races rather than white.

Because the whites have economically conquered Japan. Everwhere you look , you see whites on billboards, ads, freakin everything. And they are portrayed in a positive manner too, where as a black guy is just another "dirty thief"

lol, never heard of commas?



rofl, didn't they see you were black?

Errr isnt it because Japan was defeated in WWII by the Americans? Had they won, it would have been a different story. Japanese brands conquer the American/Western market these days, brands like Sony, Toyota, Honda, Panasonic ring a bell?

Japanese have always had the mentality of "White is best, yellow is next and black is worse". Its sad but its true, the world revolves around a "food chain" with the Whites on top.

Or maybe.. i dont care.

From what I see, you'd be outcasted either way if you were dating outside your origins. It's Japanese thinking, if you were to stand outside the crowd, you'd be ignored. And this is regardless of gender. I walk around with my "black-british" female friend for dinner, and the looks I get from people are prejiduce. And I'm Asian too.....
But I can understand why we Asian people have this kind of feeling, our people are so close most of the time.
I say, don't worry about it. If you are so insecure about your relationship, then just end it. You'll get prejiduce from everyone, and it won't change in the future either. Ganbatte Kudasai.............

Eh who knows. I've heard most of Asia in general is pretty racist against blacks and foreigners in general. Luckily Im in America right now lol but I plan on vacationing there sometime. Guess i'll see for myself some day.

i know that all white people are not bad but there are just a few who can f**k it for the rest of us here. While i'm here in lovely okinawa i do what i can do to make up for dumb stuff that some of us have done. I do believe that the US miliarty is respondable for some crimes but you can't blame everything on us. I don't drink or smoke sooo you won't see me acting crazy in your neck of the woods i mostly spend time with my girl or on base.

anyway back on subject don anyone here is in a IR relationship other than the normal white IR?

You're in the military. Well considering all the rapes black servicemen have commited over there i'm not suprised by their reaction. Plus asians and whites get along better than asians and blacks. White and asians have more in common than blacks and asians. Just the way things are. Why don't you get a black girlfriend or a fat white one?

Since the United States has given up official control of Okinawa, U.S. military personnel have committed 22 murders, 354 robberies and 110 rapes on the island.

Im pretty sure all 110 rapes werent done by blacks

Since there are so many people concerned with why 'Japanese worship whites', then why don't you find a Japanese girl and ask her yourself? I fail to see what good posting this latest tale of woe and misery on a messageboard with hardly a Japanese in sight will do to help your "problem"...

lol Musashino i do have someone to talk too. if you look at my avatar picture you will see my sexy okinawan girlfriend lol. pragmaticstasis you may be right about that but i don't remeber the last time i rape anyone. heck i never had a driving ticket so you can't put that on me cuz. i really don't believe blacks don't have nothing in common with white,hispainic,asian or so on. I have alot of friends of different races,even my girl father consider me the son he never had so i think you saying that because you never had a african-american friend

My point was that it is better to talk it through with Japanese people themselves - if possible talk it through with more than just one person. Besides Ogumo - who hasn't even been on this board for a while - there isn't a Japanese person on AF. So besides the usual whinging about Japanese girls being sellouts to White guys, many other AF members won't be able to help you out much.

black you see me lots in here talking about White man stealing our japanese women. heres from me to you. i have no problem seeing a black man with a japanese girl. Couples like that are very rare and to see something like that is a good thing, not bad. The reason soo many asian men are upset about the WM/AW thing is because there are soo much of it around here. With statistics like, over 50 percent japanese women date outside their race, make the asians question why???

I honestly dont know. Most black women stick with black men and most latino women tend to stick with latino men. I have no idea why so many asian women feel compelled to date WM exclusively. Personally I dont think its the fact that they find whites more attractive, or that they dont find asian men attractive. I think they think that they feel dating whites will make themselves better somehow or more successful. Im not saying ALL of them are like that but there is some kind of problem if a majority or even half of a female ethnicity or race is interracially dating.

I’m not sure why this thread exists. I’m sure some of the possible answers to the questions being posed would not be acceptable. So what is the point if all possible explanations cannot be examined?

Anyway…

I wonder if there has ever been any type of study done on this issue.

I think in poor asian countries the woman may be motivated by money and getting to a White country. And they also may desire to help their family through marrying a Westerner.

I have heard many asian woman say that some asian woman (never the one I’m talking to) think that mixed race babies are more attractive.

It would also being interesting to know why White woman date black men.

because white people did beat them up during the ww2, and asian could not , just that simple.

the thing about AM hating the WM/AF IR is just like why black women hate white talking black men. You should really hear the way my sister rants on about how white women are taking all the good men. Anyway, it rare to see anything like a BM/AF IR but now a days i see alot more of that,even singers in japan are of mixed breed like crystal kay in japan and sonya in korea,and amerie in the USA

well its not just japanese i dont think.

sure, chinese are the same

but think it around one more time, likely all the asian women are prefer white guys

Eh I dont know its just kinda weird to me but I'm not asian and im not really attracted to asians that much so I've never given it much thought. I know alot of the asian girls at my university here go for white guys though.

Whites have not economically conquered Japan at all in fact the majority of Americans prefer superior Japanese products to their own American ones. I guess being high class (Japanese and white), the two groups are bound to have a higher affiliation with each other.

i think that's just messed up.. one of my japanese girl dates african - americans though, she adores them..lol

We don't really need to see any stats on this. Asia with a predominant Asian comunity has been bombarded with WM/AF in their media and also in the streets of china, japan, vietnam, and thailand. Its been 4 movies(koreans) i have seen a foreign exchange white man living in korea with a korean girl. Why is it a sin to put a asian man with a white women in the korean movies or any asian movies. I will give you white man 1 dollar and in return i want 10 dollars. You don't give me the money, i'm goin to stab ya.

uhhh sad times

Yup, ma lady is Japanese and 98% of you will see me as black and the other 2% will see pinoy 2

Black & Japanese IR is not rare. You all need to come to Japan. Rare... 2

I do agree that a shyt load of Jpn love white ppls, it's funny though seeing white folks faces when I take their ladies

Just gotta know how to talk to ppl

oh and extra bonus*** gotta be funny

try it

I do have a question, what is like for people that are mixed with blacks and japanese, is it significantly tougher for them to be accepted?

^ it same thing like being half japanese/half white accepted...

btw black/japanese isn't very rare..there is a section in Tokyo where there is a large number of half black/japanese people living (kind of a ghetto)

and why japanese perfer white? maybe because they been brainwash by the media!! just look there J@P Music video hardly any J@p in it...and they find more white guys are more handsome...also i heard that J@P girl want there kids to be beautiful like having blue eye and such...man its just crazy!! i tell ya!! 2

1. you keep this up (more white man asian women). the whites will have reason to beleive a white man is much superior than an asian man

2. if no one says anything, these WM/AF will be even greater.

3. We got more Asian man white women couples today because of complainers and those that support defend Wm/AF are really trying to bring the AM back to the days of "the ugly asian man " stereotype.

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19411

maybe this would help why japanese perfer white...

[quote=QTiceage,Nov 5 2004, 07:30 PM]
^ it same thing like being half japanese/half white accepted...
That is true

btw black/japanese isn't very rare..truethere is a section in Tokyo where there is a large number of half black/japanese people living (kind of a ghetto)

WoW, I have never seen a place like that in Tokyo, but I have seen a few places over here ( in Japan) where there are a shyt load of chinese and other Asians that are living in the ghetto. Not talking about China Town but it's pretty damn close 2 sad though, no one should be living in the slumps

and why japanese perfer white? maybe because they been brainwash by the media!! I agree with that just look there J@P Music video hardly any J@p in it...What music videos are you looking at?

I asked a few Jpn ppl and they said that it's because they have pink peckers 2 I thought that was funny, but I didn't know that most Jpn guys thinks white girls are dirty. The funniest part was when I asked about chinese folks, they both said that they are dirty. I guess you chinese folks have a good rep in Japan 2 nah that's F'ed up we should all get along. I donno though these Jpn folks I asked must of been smokin something cuz the answers were funny 2

Yes. That is what I'm talking about BooBoy! I don't know what Black Mike's on about! As soon as I stepped off the plane in Japan six years ago I had two chicks in my apartment.

I couldn't figure out how to get to it with the cheesy map someone had drawn and the guy who was supposed to meet me didn't show up until an hour later. So they took me to the place and waited at the apt with me. They even went off to buy some snacks for us from the JustSpot conbini because I said I was hungry. Man, they carried my umbrella and carry on bag to though I kept refusing [but they put on such an act that I got nervous and let them]

They showed me everything I needed to know to survive in Japan. How to use the train, about the money that I had and the one ichiyendama that I thought for sure was to light to be money [I thought it was a "Dave and Mike's" Token or something.]

Yeah, they are still my good friends to this day. But after that it was like heaven, and now its that much better now that I'm married. Japanese husbands still feel nervous about their wives when around me though! hahaha.


Mio and Shimmi [sisters] I owe them a lot.


Hanging out [Met them on the street on the way to the way to club "Harlem" in Shibuya.



Slumber Party

My #1: The Wife and Boss

4 or so years ago . . .


Hmm, I forget! Maybe about 3 years ago


Now . . .

A German friend of mine, blonde, blue eyes, can't wait to come back to Japan. I'm sure it was the cheapness of the electric stuff but maybe the fact that everyone tried to sleep with him because he "looks like Leonardo" might have something to do with it

Actually the more i think about it, it feels like maybe the reason ies in the lack of exposure blacks have outside of the US. since a lot stay within the US and south America's they are generally very small in other parts of the world. So if you look at Japan of course there are going to have more exposure to whites and look at them more as potential partners

Why Japanese prefer White? Easy. Asian people do find White people attractive.
We are giving way too much credit to the media.

Well of course because media is such an influencing factor...

It's not necessarily that Asians find Caucasians more attractive. One thing I have noticed is that children of mixed ethnicities tend to get bullied (in Asian countries)( and have a hard time growing up, so in a homogenous country like Japan, if you're physically dark/look black, people automatically label you, whether it be good or bad. It's hard for a homogenous country to just accept other cultures and practices. So, many people think, well, if you're gonna have a mixed baby, better to have a light skinned baby than a dark skinned one. I have been told this numerous times. Light skin has always been a positive thing of beauty in Japan for a long time now. Of course, that doesn't mean that all Japanese (not even the majority) prefer white over other races. Most of the Japanese girls around me dated either Asians or African or African Americans. Very rarely did my friends date anyone that was considered "white".

If anyone ever goes to Yokohama, the ratio of Japanese women and black men is so high that it's almost unbelievable. R&B, soul, and rap are some of the most popular forms of music in Japan. Countries like the US isn't that common, in terms of the extent of racial diversity (I"m not saying that the US is diverse nationwide, since it's not).

My lengthy two cents.

ye its kinda of weird how japanese ppl want to be caucasian so much yet they seem to have pride in being japanese. i think in america black are seen as how white ppl are seen in japan.

Well, I myself am very attracted to Asians in general.
Don't really know why, but I just find asian women(Japanese the most) very attractive people.
I really think it doesn't matter what you are, but how you are.
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TheSkillfulAbbot: Nice pics. I really like that Rei Ayanami poster you got.
Where in Japan do you live? I have a few friends from Tokyo(Japanese friends) and it just makes me want to go even more.*Moving there in about a year and a half*

The media is also a reflection of people's taste in general.

Japanese are at least 30% Caucasian (from Jomonese, or others), and 40% Negroid(from Pacific Islanders of the Phillipines/Micronesia,etc), so they can go either way.

Ya but people's taste can be influenced.

Japan, is interested in the west as much as any non-western country. Mostly because of the wealth and hence, media influences (defining what is "cool") resulting from this. Even Ireland and London - both very western countries idolize NY and LA (no one cares about, say..Idaho). I know, I was there, and I was completely disappointed by the kids I met talking to me about Jay Z and Beyonce, and Christina Aguilera. It's crazy. Every store you go to blasts american music, and you can hear kids talk about Sex in the City and other HBO shows. Ask me about Reykjavik! Iceland was the last place I thought would even care about American culture! But I was so wrong.

Now, as far as why you see a large number of Asian (japan, filipino, etc) couples out there-- it isn't because the girls especially want to be western--more so than any other non-westerner infatuated Western culture, that is-- but because all the guys flock there to specifically to meet asian women. All the things like "teaching english" and "seeing temples" or "learning about their culture" may or may not be true- but they are mere sidenotes to the main goal: to meet asian girls. Seriously, you got hornballs willing to relocate and change their lives just to meet asian girls. That's some powerful $hit going on, if you ask me.

All the couples you see may lead you to believe that Japanese girls worship white guys, but in truth, it's more like they are open-minded to anyone who asks them out. And you got alot of white guys asking them out. This side of it, I also feel is a result of the media. Seriously, I could name a bunch of movies/books off the top of my head where you got an asian girl being the love/sex object of a white guy.
But practically zilch for AM/WF movies/books (where the guy isn't horribly stereotyped). So you got these guys, considering asian girls because of all they see...who, at the same time see no asian guys, and so asian guys don't even register as competition. So-- you got these guys supremely confident that they could get an asian girl if they wanted. Alot of this stuff is sublimal. Media. And the confidence/desires ppl gain because of it.

Take that further-- if in some parallel universe, the western countries weren't rich, and never produced far-reaching, brainwashing shows like Friends (dude- I live in NY, and let me tell you..there are asians in NY. Don't even make me mention The O.C.)-- and white guys would not be much of an item.

So the question is, why would the media do this? are they evil? naw. But they are old, have lots of money, and are ignorant.

But this is the world we are living in. And things are slowly getting more equalized. More and more peoplel are recognizing Asian movies (because hollywood is taking their ideas and remaking it, but still, they are getting recognized).

"Take that further-- if in some parallel universe, the western countries weren't rich, and never produced far-reaching, brainwashing shows like Friends (dude- I live in NY, and let me tell you..there are asians in NY. Don't even make me mention The O.C.)-- and white guys would not be much of an item"

That's not exactly true. Take into account biological reasons. Black men are in demand by rich Thai women for sex, yet in Thailand there is nothing in the media about them. Historically women from Asian prefer non-Asian men, as the Maori, who are a mixture of Taiwanese aboriginal women and Australian aboriginal men, and not a single male contribution from Eastern Asia is found in the Y-chromosone. In Southeast Asia countries, other than white men, Asian women seem to prefer Indian or Arab men(vice versa too). Yet Asian men never have higher interracial marriages than non-Asian men in virtually all parts of the world. Unless they come alone to foreign areas with Asian females.

even giving you the benefit of the doubt, for your statistics, you have to see that it's the guys flocking over to the countries to get laid, right?

that's a interesting way to put it, but according to my understanding of the japanese culture its true in a sense

about the maori. I don't know about the genetic makeup of this group, but again, giving you the benefit of the doubt, you have to realize that New Zealand is so isolated. So I might actlually believe you are right about the complete lack of east asian makeup.

New Zealand is a couple of islands. In fact, Australia, it's neighbor, has its roots as a place of exile from the UK. The UK'ers used to send convicts to Australia because it was so out of reach. It was punishment. That was how the first westerners first settled Australia.

New Zealand ain't Australia, but you got the idea.

"even giving you the benefit of the doubt, for your statistics, you have to see that it's the guys flocking over to the countries to get laid, right?"

That's a common beliefs, but that's a side-effect. For example in Southeast Asia, many men, including wealthy Asian, whites, blacks, etc. go there for sex and/or find a wife. What started this? The men from those societies let their women get used by foreigners. They cared more for profits or benefits than anything else. Now compare Asian men with non-Asian men. Its extremely rare for an Asian (regular joe) to go to another country, be it in a Western country, Latin America, India, Central Asia or whatever and get lucky with the ladies. Im from Latin America, and the common belief is pretty much, Asian men are not good lovers, but Asian women are good(but that's not said about white or black men). I have an uncle that married a Viet woman, and others that date Chinese women, but only one aunt(who is the dominant type) married a Asian guy. I prefer pure Chinese girls. So why is this skewed, in a society that is defenitely not 'white', and instead would typically want to be 'white'?

"about the maori. I don't know about the genetic makeup of this group, but again, giving you the benefit of the doubt, you have to realize that New Zealand is so isolated. So I might actlually believe you are right about the complete lack of east asian makeup."

It surprised scientiests that all females lineages are from Taiwan, and all male lineages are from Australia/PNG. So they are like polynesians, but all the women seem to have been taken by Austromelanesians.

because they have TVs in Latin america. I tell you, and you as Latin American would know this better than I am-- no place is safe from western media.

Also, I didn't want to mention this, because it is not a pleasant thought to me-

but Asian guys are an item in Brazil. This started because many japanese ppl became displaced there..they eventually started businesses and became wealthy. This led to actually business ventures with Brazil in mind. So asians became associated with wealth, by the locals..and became desirable. Eventually, this lead to general appeal. All the Brazil-Japanese couples people saw, became billboards. More and more brazilians girls then just started liking Asian guys for general reasons. I hear Asian films are becoming really popular there.

Same thing happening with westerns and asians. What started out as a sick perversion broadened to genuine appeal for some. That's great, in my opinion..but the problem is, the sick perversion is still being generated by the media. And that sucks.

About the moari, my guess is that they were Taiwan aboriginals. They were persecuted in Taiwan. Maybe they had to flee. I don't know. So they end up in New Zealand. This small isolated population originally from Taiwan. Then, suddenly you get this influx of westerners exiled to Australia. You do the math.