I believe this idea was first brought in by many Japanese and Korean politicians about 4-50 years ago...

What do you think of the idea? Agree or disagree? Please answer (Japanese only!)

a bit curioius why use chinese character?

United government won't work. But trade union could. Maybe a single currency like the euro?

Sounds good to me. The more cooperation between the countries the better.

What the hell does mongolia have to offer to this relationship besides a few million sheep.

It will never acceptable to China.

Japanese has the highest technology level of Air force and Navy in Asia. Their Army? Of course, never weak.
Korean has the highest technology level of Army and Navy in Asia. Their Air force? Of course, never weak.

In my opinion, the most biggest menace to China is Agis technology. (spell?) I don’t know what agis is. But one of my military geek friends said there are nothing can sink Agis destroyers in the world yet. And only 2 countries in Asia have that high tech. Who? Japan and Korea.

Chinese are not stupid. China will never let them work together. Each of them can’t be a threat for China. But, both of them in same time? I’m not sure. Someday, those two would be under control by Chinese gigantic and powerful economic power. But, At least, Chinese know that’s not enough for them.

Anyway, I think Korean can't read and write chinese characters. The pic one the top seems weird.

Why Japan+Korea+Mongolia and not Japan+Korea+Vietnam?


This idea is for you to think about...

The old tribes of the Yellow River included the proto-Tibetans, the "Hans", and the ancestors of the modern Miao people. And yet, a pan-Sino-Tibetan identity does not exist. Why is it that "pan-Altaicism", a concept first envisaged by Europeans to artificially group several disparate peoples based on perceived similarities in language, has grown so popular in recent years? Personally, I think it's both puerile and hilarious at the same time.

Whatever european whites say tend to be popular , asian people tend to give them too much credit sometimes. Just like they created classifications "nordic mongoloid" ect.

This is wrong, but I lol'ed anyway.

Wow. It's obvious that this is due to the integration of alien technology long kept secret from prying public eyes by the U.S. military industrial complex. But I think the greatest threat to Chinese stability will not come from any overt application of conventional military technology, but from the HARRP Weather Altercation Device™. Remember the Sichuan earthquake in 2008? Yes, that was HAARP at work! And now I see it can create typhoons, too! But fear not, I hear China is working on its own secret project involving airborne nano-bodies that, when inhaled by persons of European stock, results in an uncontrollable urge in the victim to disco dance to the tune of The Jackson 5's "Honey Bee".

How? Everyone speaks different languages. And the koreans and mongolians can't read chinese characters , further diminishing the communication.

A united government will be impossible. Vietnam should be independant on it's own IMO.

Why isn't China included???

we are southeast



agreed.

Very unlikely it'll work, given that Koreans hate Japanese even more than Chinese do.

Because they're sinophobic.

lol

Before or after the WW II ?

Vietnam Gov is commie, enough reason ?

North Korea is more hard core compared to Vietnam.

A unified JKM kingdom is unlikely ever, but a Japan, Korea, Mongolia, Vietnam Defence Alliance seems much more realistic as all these nations are strategically located and have a growing threat from a certain neighboring bully.

cuz obviousely china can't be in the anti-china club =\

sorda like how USA applied for membership in SCO >_>
or imagine if USSR applied for membership in NATO lol

JAPANESE and korean? no. Korean and Korean only. Please feel free to make an alliance with Mongolia. I don't think Japan would be interested in something like that. Nothing to gain, everything to lose. We have too much business in China to risk losing it all.

I thought this was Japanese serious talk but it sounds more like Japanese retarded talk

^ i don't mean to suggest anything but just so you know serious and retarded are not mutually exclusive

and on the topic, the idea is good but i don't think you should try to antagonize anybody.. and considering it's a unified NE asian thing ("kingdom"? wtf.. i think economic union is more acceptable), omiting the biggest country in NE asia seems kinda stupid.

like I said, I hope ASEAN + 3 can turn into something like the European Union in the future.

Japan tried that 60-70 years ago and almost got away with it.
Korea can't even unite themselves, north and south.
Mongolia? They need to step up for Genghis Khan sake.

Seriously, it's unrealistic even in a dream.
EU is yet to be seen as a successful model. I personally don't think it's the right thing to do.
UN has bigger and better goal, but then again, just a goal.

Mongolia is not NE you dumb f*ck

Before the end of WW II, I'm afraid.

LOL!! i was wndering that myself.

yea, north-east asian union will never happen without china's approval or their own participation. what is possible is more research in altaic languages to further justify the connection between koreans, mongols, turks. i'm thinking about a cultural union as opposed to political or economic union which will be seen as a threat by china.

Really? Japan and Corea (and perhaps Taiwan also) use the old traditional Chinese characters. The current Chinese use simplified Chinese characters.

Who are using the right one?

This is only a fantasy...given the nationalistic pride in almost all east asian countries, the most immediate problem will be which area to designate as the center of economic and political importance. Though a Northeast economic union would be much more efficient and stronger comparative to EU.

Because the Chinese are not North Asians, they come from South East Asia and Micronesia, and the Chinese people are of malay and pygmy ancestry.


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what's the point of having a unity without China? You're useless without the addition of China.


And if China joins ASEAN or some sh!t like that, then the "NE Asian Unity" will be f*cked up left and right by ASEAN.

As if Japan, Korea, and Mongolia would have a unity without China. Use your brain

I hardly think the term "nationalistic Pride" is a fitting term.

Its more like inferiority complex to claim we are below whites but atleast better than other asians thus proving we are less monkey than those other yellow monkeys.

None of these asian countries have a problem with white domination within their own countries but as soon as its another asian suddenly its OMG! This is unacceptable!

Don't give a mental state so cowardly and pathetic the term "pride".

Yap, it's true. We are the new Asiatic race, the third generation of migration out from Africa. Our ancestor just recently came to East Asia from Northern India, Persia and Central Asia.

In many way, there are huge differences between old and new Asiatic. Like we build walled city, complex organization and agriculture like those in Middle East. Many expert said our earliest culture and technology has many similarity with the Middle East.

But today, everyone is a mix between old and new Asian. In China, probably there's no pure new Asian people anymore since we interbreeding with local people when our ancestors arrive in this region and became what we call today as Chinese.

There's already an anti-China club: The US, S. Korea, and Japan.

Adding Mongolia in there is pointless, as it's just a large tract of land with a ceremonial military squashed between two friendly nations (China and Russia). Asking Mongolia to contain China is like asking India to contain China; it doesn't work when India's surrounded by SCO countries.

Well put!

I thought AF had a policy against reviving old threads.

you werent invited faggot@! go away

Pretty sure AF also has a policy against recurring trolls as well

just because china wasn't invited doesn't mean jealous little runts like you can come puttering in here trying to shut down threads party pooper

Wasn't there oil discovered recently in Mongolia? I read an article that had a quote from some guy from the Mongolian government where he said that the general thought is that if Mongolia were to grow wealthy overnight it would be disastrous for the Mongolian people (because of a lack of infrastructure, frivolous spending-oriented economy, etc.). Thus, the prudent thing to do would be to dig/contract out the right to dig slowly and carefully. Because a country in union with Mongolia would have quite a bit more to offer rather than receive (as pointed out by numerous members of this forum = ) ), theoretically such a government could take advantage of either the wealth or the oil (the latter of which is a real concern, given that China's thirst for oil will continue to grow as it's economy does), no?

Thats great, OCM.
Also, it seems Jin is okay, as are my other friends in Japan.

Depends, China is a vast country, it has almost every type of Asians.


LMAO. seriously??
Southern Chinese such as Cantonese have south east Asian lineage that's scientifically proven other than that your post is false and troll.
All I see from your comment is
either
you have a pea size brain
or
lack of eduction.

LOL! Japan, SK AND NK can unite they still would have a hard time competing with China. Did you know by 2020, the middle class population of China is projected to be 700 million? thats more then the total population of Japan and Korea COMBINED. There will be more educated contributing members of society in China then the total population of North East Asia! The combined population of Korea and Japan is ~180 million. Given the population growth of both countries I'd say the situtation may be EVEN worse by 2020.

holy shiit...700 is bigger than the entire EU population! korea and japan won't be able to compete with china even if they combined with the EU or the US. maybe if they combined with EU AND US, this rabble MIGHT have a chance...lol

Why not? The Asiatic race needs to decrease the number of divisions amongst themselves. It could be the ASEAN of the northerners.

^ There would need to be a strong reason for Japan and South Korea to unite. Mongolia is really too small, population and economy wise, to really be in the same league as Japan and South Korea. Thus, the only thing feasible would be something between Japan and South Korea, which is kind of confusing because most groups tend to have more than two members, and there needs to be a stated objective and Raison d'être that for existing (as well as for choosing members).

The ASEAN group was created to strengthen SE Asia against alignment in the Cold War.
The SCO was developed to link energy networks in China and central Asia.
The EU was created to develop greater economic integration and competition between the EU and the rest of the world.

A common currency would be a satisfactory reason, but it'd be odd if it didn't include China since China is such as important market for S. Korean, Japanese, and Mongolian goods, though I can kind of imagine something forming around the ASEAN + 3 group.

Not a unified kingdom - everyone wants self governance. A union that relaxes trade and travel as will as make military alliances between China, SK and Japan would be welcome.