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fujisan_8
Being a ethnic Chinese myself, I feel disgusted at some of the Chinese in Vietnam, it is amazing to see some of them

- unable to speak Vietnamese even though they've lived there for decades.
- disrespectful to Vietnamese even though Vietnam is once of the most hospitable South East Asian nations. Think Thailand, Indonesia and Malaysia and they should feel lucky damnit
- Make millions and not give a cent back to Vietnam
- Constantly mistreat Vietnamese when honestly they deserve better for allowing us to stay
- Look down upon Vietnamese when we should feel humble for leaving China due to poverty in the first place.

Im not saying all should be forced to adopt Vietnamese culture 100% but at least try to learn Vietnamese. Honestly sometimes I feel ashamed at the Chinese people.
CJK_OWER
QUOTE (fujisan_8 @ Oct 18 2004, 11:58 AM)
Being a ethnic Chinese myself, I feel disgusted at some of the Chinese in Vietnam, it is amazing to see some of them

- unable to speak Vietnamese even though they've lived there for decades.
- disrespectful to Vietnamese even though Vietnam is once of the most hospitable South East Asian nations. Think Thailand, Indonesia and Malaysia and they should feel lucky damnit
- Make millions and not give a cent back to Vietnam
- Constantly mistreat Vietnamese when honestly they deserve better for allowing us to stay
- Look down upon Vietnamese when we should feel humble for leaving China due to poverty in the first place.

Im not saying all should be forced to adopt Vietnamese culture 100% but at least try to learn Vietnamese. Honestly sometimes I feel ashamed at the Chinese people.
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hahahah...what the fu-k are you talking about? you act as if you china man in viet nam are all that when in fact they are being look down upon by the Viet in terms of lacking educations and poor…. don't flatter you stupid china man...let ma tell you the current of Chinese people in viet nam. As a matter of fact, the majority of Chinese people are living in the ghetto and uneducated. We viet treated you like a piece of $hit, we even made a show to poke fun at Chinese people. The show called cuoi gala if you wanna check it out.

Btw, I guess you don’t know what’s going on of the Chinese people in viet nam since you can’t speak or understand Vietnamese…FYI, didn’t you know china gov’s force vietnam to take 250 thousand Chinese back but we refuse to because we wanna get rip of you as much as we can.

Anyways, could you do me a favor? Don’t speak for us when you don't know jack $hit you stupid fetus eater…hahhaha
Vuong
hey hey

leave it out
CJK_OWER
Use your comment sense when you speak, how the fu-k of an uneducated man look down on an educated people? In viet culture, it’s doesn’t matter how rich you are people still look down on you if you don’t have an education. As I can see, there are over 900 millions of Chinese in china are uneducated. If you ask any of Vietnamese people that has been traveled to china all they will say that you guys are still primitive except the people from big city like bejing or shanghai.

Also, how come the majority of Vietnamese so mad when the see viet girls marring to Chinese but it’s ok to marry to western man? because they think china man are low and dirty, it’s like seing viet marring with black people.
Johannjs
Either way, this is BS

As far as I know of, nobody is looking down on anybody in Vietnam, not on the poorer than them, not even on beggars, except for some very rich entrepreneurs or ignorant born-to-be sex tourists.

The only problem is perhaps that Cholon is more crowded an area than elsewhere, in Ho Chi Minh City, and this can be the cause of some lack of general hygiene in the streets.

I remember, you said you went to District 4? which, in some parts of it, is the refuge of the Chinese "Black Hand" gang (đảng Bàn Tay Đen, opium and prostitutes traffickers), but these are very uneducated people, and that's normal? This shouldn't mislead you into thinking that this type of attitude is generalized everywhere in Vietnam.

People, the Chinese ethnics included, are very compassionate with the poorer, and do help every time they can. You can read this in the local daily newspapers.
tqt
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Also, how come the majority of Vietnamese so mad when the see viet girls marring to Chinese but it’s ok to marry to western man? because they think china man are low and dirty, it’s like seing viet marring with black people.


well said.

anyway, the ethnic chinese in northern vietnam, especially the Ha Noi and Hai Phong areas, are all involved gangs, drug, and prostitution. I heard the same phenomenon also happen in Japan.
Shanghaibabe@Toronto
Can you clam down if I show you my boobs ? embarassedlaugh.gif2

cái gì mà la um xùm trời đức ong nọi kick.gif kick.gif

QUOTE (fujisan_8 @ Oct 18 2004, 11:58 AM)
Being a ethnic Chinese myself, I feel disgusted at some of the Chinese in Vietnam, it is amazing to see some of them

- unable to speak Vietnamese even though they've lived there for decades.
- disrespectful to Vietnamese even though Vietnam is once of the most hospitable South East Asian nations. Think Thailand, Indonesia and Malaysia and they should feel lucky damnit
- Make millions and not give a cent back to Vietnam
- Constantly mistreat Vietnamese when honestly they deserve better for allowing us to stay
- Look down upon Vietnamese when we should feel humble for leaving China due to poverty in the first place.

Im not saying all should be forced to adopt Vietnamese culture 100% but at least try to learn Vietnamese. Honestly sometimes I feel ashamed at the Chinese people.
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Emperor
QUOTE (CJK_OWER @ Oct 18 2004, 08:10 PM)
QUOTE (fujisan_8 @ Oct 18 2004, 11:58 AM)
Being a ethnic Chinese myself, I feel disgusted at some of the Chinese in Vietnam, it is amazing to see some of them

- unable to speak Vietnamese even though they've lived there for decades.
- disrespectful to Vietnamese even though Vietnam is once of the most hospitable South East Asian nations. Think Thailand, Indonesia and Malaysia and they should feel lucky damnit
- Make millions and not give a cent back to Vietnam
- Constantly mistreat Vietnamese when honestly they deserve better for allowing us to stay
- Look down upon Vietnamese when we should feel humble for leaving China due to poverty in the first place.

Im not saying all should be forced to adopt Vietnamese culture 100% but at least try to learn Vietnamese. Honestly sometimes I feel ashamed at the Chinese people.
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hahahah...what the fu-k are you talking about? you act as if you china man in viet nam are all that when in fact they are being look down upon by the Viet in terms of lacking educations and poor…. don't flatter you stupid china man...let ma tell you the current of Chinese people in viet nam. As a matter of fact, the majority of Chinese people are living in the ghetto and uneducated. We viet treated you like a piece of $hit, we even made a show to poke fun at Chinese people. The show called cuoi gala if you wanna check it out.

Btw, I guess you don’t know what’s going on of the Chinese people in viet nam since you can’t speak or understand Vietnamese…FYI, didn’t you know china gov’s force vietnam to take 250 thousand Chinese back but we refuse to because we wanna get rip of you as much as we can.

Anyways, could you do me a favor? Don’t speak for us when you don't know jack $hit you stupid fetus eater…hahhaha
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ROFL. I suppose that's why they control much of Saigon's economy. beerchug.gif

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/patrick.guenin/can...ews/chinese.htm

Shut up if you don't know what you're talking about, dumbfcuk.
CJK_OWER
hahahahhaha....you are making me laugh you stupid fetus eater

first of all the article was old and it's clearly stated by individual opinion. All I can see is he was trying to kiss the Vietnamese people @$$ in order for us to treated them like human being, but he didn’t realized we Viet thinking of them low and dirty that’s why we deported them out and we didn’t want to take 250 thousand Chinese back when china gov’s forced us to

Secondly, It’s doesn’t said anything about you china man have controlled of Saigon’s economy rather than lying and making some $hit up. Here is why I think he’s lying when he said there are “Tens of thousands of Chinese fled Vietnam, many in rust-bucket boats that sank or fell victim to pirates” when in facts the number of Chinese fled Vietnam is a lot higher.

Thirdly, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some business was running by Chinese since they are come from hongkong’s and taiwain’s but it’s definitely not the Chinese in viet nam.

Btw, I am glad to see that the china man in viet nam didn’t go to school because it easier for us to control them. Bravo to china man
sirgika
QUOTE (Shanghaibabe@Toronto @ Oct 18 2004, 02:37 PM)
Can you clam down if I show you my boobs ?  embarassedlaugh.gif2


softcore will suffice
TDscorpion
hahahahhaha....you are making me laugh you stupid fetus eater

first of all the article was old and it's clearly stated by individual opinion. All I can see is he was trying to kiss the Vietnamese people @$$ in order for us to treated them like human being, but he didn’t realized we Viet thinking of them low and dirty that’s why we deported them out and we didn’t want to take 250 thousand Chinese back when china gov’s forced us to

Secondly, It’s doesn’t said anything about you china man have controlled of Saigon’s economy rather than lying and making some $hit up. Here is why I think he’s lying when he said there are “Tens of thousands of Chinese fled Vietnam, many in rust-bucket boats that sank or fell victim to pirates” when in facts the number of Chinese fled Vietnam is a lot higher.

Thirdly, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some business was running by Chinese since they are come from hongkong’s and taiwain’s but it’s definitely not the Chinese in viet nam.

Btw, I am glad to see that the china man in viet nam didn’t go to school because it easier for us to control them. Bravo to china man

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Your comments are pretty harsh... relax just treat them like our neighbors. You should remember this, some of us Vietnamese who are living oversea and we do not want racism from host countries, then we should not show hatreds toward anyone.
Rappapa
No clue to what you're talking about.

My family is Chinese and we speak Vietnamese in the house.
Make millions and not give a cent back? Yeah, in communist Vietnam, you're real bright.

My parents left Vietnam for a reason icon_rolleyes.gif
supernovasp
warning given to CJK_OWER.

The article Emperor posted is very untrue.

There's nothing as

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"Even state-run Ho Chi Minh City Television airs a nightly news bulletin in Mandarin, albeit one that adopts Hanoi's line on issues such as sovereignty disputes in the South China Sea."


HTV7 and HTV9 has never reported in Mandarin, second of all Chinese in Vietnam don't speak "Mandarin".


Second of all, Chinese Veitnamese don't "control" Vietnamese country, since the communist goverment control the economy.

Third of all, Chinese Vietnamese people only control parts of Saigon as in enterprise.

This article is confused with Chinese Vietnamese and Chinese (Taiwan), since one of the biggest investors are the Taiwanese.

O BTW, District 1 has the most GPA not Cholon
福州市长
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Oct 18 2004, 04:19 PM)
warning given to CJK_OWER.

The article Emperor posted is very untrue.

There's nothing as

QUOTE
"Even state-run Ho Chi Minh City Television airs a nightly news bulletin in Mandarin, albeit one that adopts Hanoi's line on issues such as sovereignty disputes in the South China Sea."


HTV7 and HTV9 has never reported in Mandarin, second of all Chinese in Vietnam don't speak "Mandarin".


Second of all, Chinese Veitnamese don't "control" Vietnamese country, since the communist goverment control the economy.

Third of all, Chinese Vietnamese people only control parts of Saigon as in enterprise.

This article is confused with Chinese Vietnamese and Chinese (Taiwan), since one of the biggest investors are the Taiwanese.

O BTW, District 1 has the most GPA not Cholon
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what is said is true..and it is chinese vietnamese....not taiwanese..
i went to saigon.. lots people speaks cantonese...
and people went to vietnam is not because of wealth, it is beccause of war..

"For the most part, the various ethnic groups in Vietnam coexist with few mutual tensions. Relations between the ethnic groups are not always amiable, however. Ethnic Chinese play a dominant role in the national economy, which angers some Vietnamese who resent the economic power of the much smaller Chinese population. Furthermore, some Vietnamese are suspicious of China, which subjugated parts of Vietnam for centuries, and this suspicion is occasionally directed at the ethnic Chinese citizens of Vietnam. Some tribal minority communities have resisted recent Vietnamese penetration into mountain areas.

"
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/Ref...=761552648&pn=2
fiji
Actually, I think the Chinese in Vietnam is fairly good compared to Chinese in other countries. Chinese in other countries consider themselves Chinese, or the province they came from. In Vietnam, at least a lot of Chinese Vietnamese consider themselves Vietnamese even though they don't speak it. I've met a lot of Chinese Vietnamese that parents were born in Vietnam, and they were brought in the US, no connection with Vietnam, yet they still consider themselves half Chinese and half Viet. Much like yourself fujisan. Yeah, there are ungrateful bastards, but let's just say I haven't met any.

Chinese in Vietnam are always treated well. An ordinary Viet person not exposed to AF, wouldn't not have any hate for Chinese at all. Chinese should be thankful, in other SEA countries they hate Chinese with their guts.

Oh, and no one is looking down on anyone in Vietnam. As for Chinese controlling the Viet economy, you might have missed us for Thais or Malaysian. Chinese have no control in Vietnam except selling Chinese food and medicine in Cho Lon. Other Chinese are investors from Taiwan and HK.
supernovasp
QUOTE (福州市长 @ Oct 18 2004, 05:11 PM)
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Oct 18 2004, 04:19 PM)
warning given to CJK_OWER.

The article Emperor posted is very untrue.

There's nothing as

QUOTE
"Even state-run Ho Chi Minh City Television airs a nightly news bulletin in Mandarin, albeit one that adopts Hanoi's line on issues such as sovereignty disputes in the South China Sea."


HTV7 and HTV9 has never reported in Mandarin, second of all Chinese in Vietnam don't speak "Mandarin".


Second of all, Chinese Veitnamese don't "control" Vietnamese country, since the communist goverment control the economy.

Third of all, Chinese Vietnamese people only control parts of Saigon as in enterprise.

This article is confused with Chinese Vietnamese and Chinese (Taiwan), since one of the biggest investors are the Taiwanese.

O BTW, District 1 has the most GPA not Cholon
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what is said is true..and it is chinese vietnamese....not taiwanese..
i went to saigon.. lots people speaks cantonese...
and people went to vietnam is not because of wealth, it is beccause of war..

"For the most part, the various ethnic groups in Vietnam coexist with few mutual tensions. Relations between the ethnic groups are not always amiable, however. Ethnic Chinese play a dominant role in the national economy, which angers some Vietnamese who resent the economic power of the much smaller Chinese population. Furthermore, some Vietnamese are suspicious of China, which subjugated parts of Vietnam for centuries, and this suspicion is occasionally directed at the ethnic Chinese citizens of Vietnam. Some tribal minority communities have resisted recent Vietnamese penetration into mountain areas.

"
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/Ref...=761552648&pn=2
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O please i know the country's well anough. I've been into Cholon many times. These articles are way over exaggerated.

Why would Chinese people go to Vietnam for way sure.gif
Emperor
QUOTE (CJK_OWER @ Oct 18 2004, 10:56 PM)
hahahahhaha....you are making me laugh you stupid fetus eater

first of all the article was old and it's clearly stated by individual opinion.  All I can see is he was trying to kiss the Vietnamese people @$$ in order for us to treated them like human being, but he didn’t realized we Viet thinking of them low and dirty that’s why we deported them out and we didn’t want to take 250 thousand Chinese back when china gov’s forced us to

Secondly, It’s doesn’t said anything about you china man have controlled of Saigon’s economy rather than lying and making some $hit up.  Here is why I think he’s lying when he said there are “Tens of thousands of Chinese fled Vietnam, many in rust-bucket boats that sank or fell victim to pirates” when in facts the number of Chinese fled Vietnam is a lot higher. 

Thirdly, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some business was running by Chinese since they are come from hongkong’s and taiwain’s but it’s definitely not the Chinese in viet nam.
 
Btw, I am glad to see that the china man in viet nam didn’t go to school because it easier for us to control them.  Bravo to china man
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Rofl, stop being an idiot. You know very wel that Chinese in Vietnam aren't more or less educated than the Vietnamese.

LOL, who's pulling things out of his @$$ here? Chinese DO play an imporant role in Vietnam's economy.

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Ethnic Chinese play a dominant role in the national economy, which angers some Vietnamese who resent the economic power of the much smaller Chinese population. Furthermore, some Vietnamese are suspicious of China, which subjugated parts of Vietnam for centuries, and this suspicion is occasionally directed at the ethnic Chinese citizens of Vietnam.


Seems like you're just one of those jealous vietman's. beerchug.gif
supernovasp
Oh please,

As Fiji stated most Chinese Vietnamese 's so call interprise are basically "food" and "medicine". Trading is obviously controlled by the goverment
fiji
QUOTE (Emperor @ Oct 18 2004, 06:04 PM)
QUOTE (CJK_OWER @ Oct 18 2004, 10:56 PM)
hahahahhaha....you are making me laugh you stupid fetus eater

first of all the article was old and it's clearly stated by individual opinion.  All I can see is he was trying to kiss the Vietnamese people @$$ in order for us to treated them like human being, but he didn’t realized we Viet thinking of them low and dirty that’s why we deported them out and we didn’t want to take 250 thousand Chinese back when china gov’s forced us to

Secondly, It’s doesn’t said anything about you china man have controlled of Saigon’s economy rather than lying and making some $hit up.  Here is why I think he’s lying when he said there are “Tens of thousands of Chinese fled Vietnam, many in rust-bucket boats that sank or fell victim to pirates” when in facts the number of Chinese fled Vietnam is a lot higher. 

Thirdly, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some business was running by Chinese since they are come from hongkong’s and taiwain’s but it’s definitely not the Chinese in viet nam.
 
Btw, I am glad to see that the china man in viet nam didn’t go to school because it easier for us to control them.  Bravo to china man
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Rofl, stop being an idiot. You know very wel that Chinese in Vietnam aren't more or less educated than the Vietnamese.

LOL, who's pulling things out of his @$$ here? Chinese DO play an imporant role in Vietnam's economy.

QUOTE
Ethnic Chinese play a dominant role in the national economy, which angers some Vietnamese who resent the economic power of the much smaller Chinese population. Furthermore, some Vietnamese are suspicious of China, which subjugated parts of Vietnam for centuries, and this suspicion is occasionally directed at the ethnic Chinese citizens of Vietnam.


Seems like you're just one of those jealous vietman's. beerchug.gif
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You are. I don't know where you got your sources from. But from my understanding even before the Vietnamese-Chinese conflict, chinese still didn't control economy like you claimed, but probably much more than today. Before the war I'm sure there are Chinese owing jewelry shop in such. But after the war, chinese in Cho Lon sells food and medicine.

And the number uno reason you are pulling stuff you @$$...*drumroll*....You've never been to Vietnam, smartass. And I think Vietnamese have the least blind patriotism out of all Asian. For every Vietnamese blind nationlist, there are one to counter him and point out the false. Look at supernovasp. We don't need to lie to you man. Go to Vietnam and go to the "China town" cho lon and you see what enterprises Chinese people own.
CJK_OWER
QUOTE (Emperor @ Oct 18 2004, 06:04 PM)
QUOTE (CJK_OWER @ Oct 18 2004, 10:56 PM)
hahahahhaha....you are making me laugh you stupid fetus eater

first of all the article was old and it's clearly stated by individual opinion.  All I can see is he was trying to kiss the Vietnamese people @$$ in order for us to treated them like human being, but he didn’t realized we Viet thinking of them low and dirty that’s why we deported them out and we didn’t want to take 250 thousand Chinese back when china gov’s forced us to

Secondly, It’s doesn’t said anything about you china man have controlled of Saigon’s economy rather than lying and making some $hit up.  Here is why I think he’s lying when he said there are “Tens of thousands of Chinese fled Vietnam, many in rust-bucket boats that sank or fell victim to pirates” when in facts the number of Chinese fled Vietnam is a lot higher. 

Thirdly, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some business was running by Chinese since they are come from hongkong’s and taiwain’s but it’s definitely not the Chinese in viet nam.
 
Btw, I am glad to see that the china man in viet nam didn’t go to school because it easier for us to control them.  Bravo to china man
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Rofl, stop being an idiot. You know very wel that Chinese in Vietnam aren't more or less educated than the Vietnamese.

LOL, who's pulling things out of his @$$ here? Chinese DO play an imporant role in Vietnam's economy.

QUOTE
Ethnic Chinese play a dominant role in the national economy, which angers some Vietnamese who resent the economic power of the much smaller Chinese population. Furthermore, some Vietnamese are suspicious of China, which subjugated parts of Vietnam for centuries, and this suspicion is occasionally directed at the ethnic Chinese citizens of Vietnam.


Seems like you're just one of those jealous vietman's. beerchug.gif
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hahahah....if you are that good than why would us deported all of you out of viet name....please use your common sense.

as far as i know, the chinese in thailand being treated very well because they need a china man like you to hepl their economy's. Since vietnamese people are way more smarter than chinese therfore we don't need stupid uneducated china man here that's why we deported you out...do you undestand?
supernovasp
^^^ I don't get the part when you're talking about me embarassedlaugh.gif

But I agree we're one the less blind patriot people... LEt's compare CNA to lacviet biggrin.gif
CJK_OWER
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Oct 18 2004, 06:17 PM)
^^^ I don't get the part when you're talking about me  embarassedlaugh.gif

But I agree we're one the less blind patriot people... LEt's compare CNA to lacviet  biggrin.gif
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dude, i don't need a guy like you to speak on the behalf of the vietnamese people since you are chinese and not knowing any thing about us....i am asking you just to STFU.
fiji
CJK is kinda trying to insult you, but he's not exagerating at all. In Vietnam, only school available are Vietnamese school. A lot of Chinese-Viet don't go to school, they stay home and help out with the shops, they stayed in Vietnam and even born there and not know how to write. They can't even speak Vietnamese correctly. So if that's not uneducated, then tell me what is?


It's clearly supernovasp is Vietnamese. While on this board I've ran in arguments with various Viet members, then I start to think why do Vietnamse fight among ourselves so much? Should I hate those people that I argue with? And I realize, no, I don't hate them, I love them. Even though we have different views, but that's what great about us, we bringing different view to the table. Just as long as we don't name call and disgraced our ancestor, it's all good.
Rocky Cuong V
QUOTE (Emperor @ Oct 19 2004, 09:04 AM)
QUOTE (CJK_OWER @ Oct 18 2004, 10:56 PM)
hahahahhaha....you are making me laugh you stupid fetus eater

first of all the article was old and it's clearly stated by individual opinion.  All I can see is he was trying to kiss the Vietnamese people @$$ in order for us to treated them like human being, but he didn’t realized we Viet thinking of them low and dirty that’s why we deported them out and we didn’t want to take 250 thousand Chinese back when china gov’s forced us to

Secondly, It’s doesn’t said anything about you china man have controlled of Saigon’s economy rather than lying and making some $hit up.  Here is why I think he’s lying when he said there are “Tens of thousands of Chinese fled Vietnam, many in rust-bucket boats that sank or fell victim to pirates” when in facts the number of Chinese fled Vietnam is a lot higher. 

Thirdly, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some business was running by Chinese since they are come from hongkong’s and taiwain’s but it’s definitely not the Chinese in viet nam.
 
Btw, I am glad to see that the china man in viet nam didn’t go to school because it easier for us to control them.  Bravo to china man
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Rofl, stop being an idiot. You know very wel that Chinese in Vietnam aren't more or less educated than the Vietnamese.

LOL, who's pulling things out of his @$$ here? Chinese DO play an imporant role in Vietnam's economy.

QUOTE
Ethnic Chinese play a dominant role in the national economy, which angers some Vietnamese who resent the economic power of the much smaller Chinese population. Furthermore, some Vietnamese are suspicious of China, which subjugated parts of Vietnam for centuries, and this suspicion is occasionally directed at the ethnic Chinese citizens of Vietnam.


Seems like you're just one of those jealous vietman's. beerchug.gif
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Well i'm not going to start flaming people talk crap like a couple of people in this thread. All I want to say it..state the source, the business that Chinese are living in Vietnam run? Can you? or are you just going to believe in this stupid article with no real figures?
supernovasp
QUOTE (fiji @ Oct 18 2004, 06:21 PM)
CJK is kinda trying to insult you, but he's not exagerating at all.  In Vietnam, only school available are Vietnamese school.  A lot of Chinese-Viet don't go to school, they stay home and help out with the shops, they stayed in Vietnam  and even born there and not know how to write.  They can't even speak Vietnamese correctly.  So if that's not uneducated, then tell me what is?


It's clearly supernovasp is Vietnamese.  While on this board I've ran in arguments with various Viet members, then I start to think why do Vietnamse fight among ourselves so much?  Should I hate those people that I argue with?  And I realize, no, I don't hate them, I love them.  Even though we have different views, but that's what great about us, we bringing different view to the table.  Just as long as we don't name call and disgraced our ancestor, it's all good.
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yup exactly but i don't seem to have any different views from you embarassedlaugh.gif
Emperor
QUOTE (CJK_OWER @ Oct 19 2004, 01:16 AM)
hahahah....if you are that good than why would us deported all of you out of viet name....please use your common sense.

as far as i know, the chinese in thailand being treated very well because they need a china man like you to hepl their economy's.  Since vietnamese people are way more smarter than chinese therfore we don't need stupid uneducated china man here that's why we deported you out...do you undestand?
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They were deported because they refused to take Vietnamese citizenship. NOT because they were dominating VN's economy. In fact, Vietnamese economy was practially nonexistent back then. Both Chinese and Vietnamese were poor.

You would've know this if you learned your history a bit better.

Viets smarter than Chinese? I wonder why why China always ranks higher than VN in the Math olympiads: http://imo.math.ca/results/TCBY.html

I don't need a dumb Viet like you to tell me who's smarter. embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE
Well i'm not going to start flaming people talk crap like a couple of people in this thread. All I want to say it..state the source, the business that Chinese are living in Vietnam run? Can you? or are you just going to believe in stupid article with no real figures?


Why would I? 福州市长 already proofed that Chinese play an important role in VN's econmy by providing a link from a reliable source (encarta). If you don't believe it, then that's your problem. Find proof that Chinese aren't important to VN's economy.
supernovasp
QUOTE (Emperor @ Oct 18 2004, 06:31 PM)
Why would I? 福州市长 already proofed that Chinese play an important role in VN's econmy by providing a link from a reliable source (encarta). If you don't believe it, then that's your problem. Find proof that Chinese aren't important to VN's economy.
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The fact is that Vietnam's economy is controlled bY THE GOVERMENT can tell you anough. Most of the big companies and trading routes are controlled by goverment-owned companies. You're chinese you should should know it.
Bang
supernovasp, the chinese are dreaming ....
supernovasp
where's byron when i need him confused.gif bawling.gif
Emperor
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Oct 19 2004, 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (Emperor @ Oct 18 2004, 06:31 PM)
Why would I? 福州市长 already proofed that Chinese play an important role in VN's econmy by providing a link from a reliable source (encarta). If you don't believe it, then that's your problem. Find proof that Chinese aren't important to VN's economy.
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The fact is that Vietnam's economy is controlled bY THE GOVERMENT can tell you anough. Most of the big companies and trading routes are controlled by goverment-owned companies. You're chinese you should should know it.
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Yes, most but not all. Companies like Nike wouldn't be in Vietnam if everything was owned by the government.
fiji
I give up. If you going to keep insisting your sources are correct, then it'd be a waste of my time replying. *The enlightment ship now will be leaving China's port forever.*

Believe what you will, stopped by in Saigon the next time you visit China to at least see your fellow Chinese and their life in Vietnam. While there, treat yourself to dimsum and walk away paying only 1 bucks. Stop by the medicine shop too, you'll get Chinese male-enchance delicacies icon_smile.gif.
supernovasp
QUOTE (Emperor @ Oct 18 2004, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Oct 19 2004, 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (Emperor @ Oct 18 2004, 06:31 PM)
Why would I? 福州市长 already proofed that Chinese play an important role in VN's econmy by providing a link from a reliable source (encarta). If you don't believe it, then that's your problem. Find proof that Chinese aren't important to VN's economy.
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The fact is that Vietnam's economy is controlled bY THE GOVERMENT can tell you anough. Most of the big companies and trading routes are controlled by goverment-owned companies. You're chinese you should should know it.
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Yes, most but not all. Companies like Nike wouldn't be in Vietnam if everything was owned by the government.
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isn't this my point, most of the ecnomy is controlled by the goverment, then TAIWANESE investors. Most of chinese vietnamese only made their living by selling in vendors like foods, drink, medicine etc. usually around cholon
Emperor
QUOTE
Vietnam's approximately 2.3 million ethnic Han Chinese, concentrated mostly in southern Vietnam, constitute Vietnam's largest minority group. Long important in the Vietnamese economy, Vietnamese of Chinese ancestry have been active in rice trading, milling, real estate, and banking in the south and shopkeeping, stevedoring, and mining in the north.


http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/D...hics-of-Vietnam

Like I said, some Chinese Vietnamese are poor, but that's because they left as refugees and didn't get proper schooling. The ones that did contribute much to Vietnamese economy.
CJK_OWER
QUOTE (Emperor @ Oct 18 2004, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (CJK_OWER @ Oct 19 2004, 01:16 AM)
hahahah....if you are that good than why would us deported all of you out of viet name....please use your common sense.

as far as i know, the chinese in thailand being treated very well because they need a china man like you to hepl their economy's.  Since vietnamese people are way more smarter than chinese therfore we don't need stupid uneducated china man here that's why we deported you out...do you undestand?
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They were deported because they refused to take Vietnamese citizenship. NOT because they were dominating VN's economy. In fact, Vietnamese economy was practially nonexistent back then. Both Chinese and Vietnamese were poor.

You would've know this if you learned your history a bit better.

Viets smarter than Chinese? I wonder why why China always ranks higher than VN in the Math olympiads: http://imo.math.ca/results/TCBY.html

I don't need a dumb Viet like you to tell me who's smarter. embarassedlaugh.gif

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Well i'm not going to start flaming people talk crap like a couple of people in this thread. All I want to say it..state the source, the business that Chinese are living in Vietnam run? Can you? or are you just going to believe in stupid article with no real figures?


Why would I? 福州市长 already proofed that Chinese play an important role in VN's econmy by providing a link from a reliable source (encarta). If you don't believe it, then that's your problem. Find proof that Chinese aren't important to VN's economy.
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LOL...you must be stupid, extra stupid and plus very stupid....is there any proofs that they are refused to take Viet citizenship? How do you know better than me when you never been there? The Chinese people just make up some $hit up in order to save their face that’s why they saying we forced them to take Vietnamese citizenship. i never heard of this BS B4

It’s so pathetic with a population of 1.3 billions couldn’t be on the top for every year…..it’s took 16 china men to compared just with one Vietnamese…..pathertic loser
Rocky Cuong V
QUOTE (Emperor @ Oct 19 2004, 09:31 AM)
QUOTE (CJK_OWER @ Oct 19 2004, 01:16 AM)
hahahah....if you are that good than why would us deported all of you out of viet name....please use your common sense.

as far as i know, the chinese in thailand being treated very well because they need a china man like you to hepl their economy's.  Since vietnamese people are way more smarter than chinese therfore we don't need stupid uneducated china man here that's why we deported you out...do you undestand?
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They were deported because they refused to take Vietnamese citizenship. NOT because they were dominating VN's economy. In fact, Vietnamese economy was practially nonexistent back then. Both Chinese and Vietnamese were poor.

You would've know this if you learned your history a bit better.

Viets smarter than Chinese? I wonder why why China always ranks higher than VN in the Math olympiads: http://imo.math.ca/results/TCBY.html

I don't need a dumb Viet like you to tell me who's smarter. embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE
Well i'm not going to start flaming people talk crap like a couple of people in this thread. All I want to say it..state the source, the business that Chinese are living in Vietnam run? Can you? or are you just going to believe in stupid article with no real figures?


Why would I? 福州市长 already proofed that Chinese play an important role in VN's econmy by providing a link from a reliable source (encarta). If you don't believe it, then that's your problem. Find proof that Chinese aren't important to VN's economy.
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COME ON! What is there to believe? "Ethnic Chinese play a dominant role in the national economy" 1 sentences? So which Chinese company is dominant? How much are they making? What are they selling? I though youre smarter than that..
tqt
the chinese are a low self-esteem group of people. They know that they are nothing but refugees in Vietnam. Of course they have to believe in some kind of fantasy to suppress or conceal their pitiful faith as refugees. The ethnic chinese in vietnam should be grateful for us have been feeding lefovers to them for the past hundred of years.

Ethnic chinese control vietnam's economy? LOL, you chinese are great comedians.
Emperor
QUOTE (CJK_OWER @ Oct 19 2004, 01:47 AM)
QUOTE (Emperor @ Oct 18 2004, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (CJK_OWER @ Oct 19 2004, 01:16 AM)
hahahah....if you are that good than why would us deported all of you out of viet name....please use your common sense.

as far as i know, the chinese in thailand being treated very well because they need a china man like you to hepl their economy's.  Since vietnamese people are way more smarter than chinese therfore we don't need stupid uneducated china man here that's why we deported you out...do you undestand?
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They were deported because they refused to take Vietnamese citizenship. NOT because they were dominating VN's economy. In fact, Vietnamese economy was practially nonexistent back then. Both Chinese and Vietnamese were poor.

You would've know this if you learned your history a bit better.

Viets smarter than Chinese? I wonder why why China always ranks higher than VN in the Math olympiads: http://imo.math.ca/results/TCBY.html

I don't need a dumb Viet like you to tell me who's smarter. embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE
Well i'm not going to start flaming people talk crap like a couple of people in this thread. All I want to say it..state the source, the business that Chinese are living in Vietnam run? Can you? or are you just going to believe in stupid article with no real figures?


Why would I? 福州市长 already proofed that Chinese play an important role in VN's econmy by providing a link from a reliable source (encarta). If you don't believe it, then that's your problem. Find proof that Chinese aren't important to VN's economy.
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LOL...you must be stupid, extra stupid and plus very stupid....is there any proofs that they are refused to take Viet citizenship? How do you know better than me when you never been there? The Chinese people just make up some $hit up order to save their face that’s why they saying we forced them to take Vietnamese citizenship. i never heard of this BS B4

It’s so pathetic with a population of 1.3 billions couldn’t be on the top for every year…..it’s took 16 china men to compared just with one Vietnamese…..pathertic loser
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Sigh.. you dumbfcuk, you should know better. Didn't you read the other topics?

I'm not even going to waste my time by proving i'm correct. You should ask your fellow Vietnamese about wheter this is true or not. worthless piece of $hit.
CJK_OWER
[quote=Emperor,Oct 18 2004, 06:46 PM]
[quote]Vietnam's approximately 2.3 million ethnic Han Chinese, concentrated mostly in southern Vietnam, constitute Vietnam's largest minority group. Long important in the Vietnamese economy, Vietnamese of Chinese ancestry have been active in rice trading, milling, real estate, and banking in the south and shopkeeping, stevedoring, and mining in the north. [/quote]

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/D...hics-of-Vietnam

what the fu-k? this article is BS. The chinese in vietnam is approximately 1 million ethnic Han Chinese not 2.3 million as they say. Full of $hit
Rocky Cuong V
Look Emperor I'm not an Arrogant SOB okay? If you can prove it with some reliable figures, source and name of the Chinese company in Vietnam, then there is no reason for me to arguy or not believe you.
CJK_OWER
QUOTE (Emperor @ Oct 18 2004, 06:54 PM)
QUOTE (CJK_OWER @ Oct 19 2004, 01:47 AM)
QUOTE (Emperor @ Oct 18 2004, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (CJK_OWER @ Oct 19 2004, 01:16 AM)
hahahah....if you are that good than why would us deported all of you out of viet name....please use your common sense.

as far as i know, the chinese in thailand being treated very well because they need a china man like you to hepl their economy's.  Since vietnamese people are way more smarter than chinese therfore we don't need stupid uneducated china man here that's why we deported you out...do you undestand?
*


They were deported because they refused to take Vietnamese citizenship. NOT because they were dominating VN's economy. In fact, Vietnamese economy was practially nonexistent back then. Both Chinese and Vietnamese were poor.

You would've know this if you learned your history a bit better.

Viets smarter than Chinese? I wonder why why China always ranks higher than VN in the Math olympiads: http://imo.math.ca/results/TCBY.html

I don't need a dumb Viet like you to tell me who's smarter. embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE
Well i'm not going to start flaming people talk crap like a couple of people in this thread. All I want to say it..state the source, the business that Chinese are living in Vietnam run? Can you? or are you just going to believe in stupid article with no real figures?


Why would I? 福州市长 already proofed that Chinese play an important role in VN's econmy by providing a link from a reliable source (encarta). If you don't believe it, then that's your problem. Find proof that Chinese aren't important to VN's economy.
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LOL...you must be stupid, extra stupid and plus very stupid....is there any proofs that they are refused to take Viet citizenship? How do you know better than me when you never been there? The Chinese people just make up some $hit up order to save their face that’s why they saying we forced them to take Vietnamese citizenship. i never heard of this BS B4

It’s so pathetic with a population of 1.3 billions couldn’t be on the top for every year…..it’s took 16 china men to compared just with one Vietnamese…..pathertic loser
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Sigh.. you dumbfcuk, you should know better. Didn't you read the other topics?

I'm not even going to waste my time by proving i'm correct. You should ask your fellow Vietnamese about wheter this is true or not. worthless piece of $hit.
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give it up you dumb china man....whatever make you feel good than be it
tqt
Nationmaster is one retarded source. There is no other ethnic group who numbered more than 2 millions except the Kinh. The second largest ethnic group in Vietnam is the Tay with 1.479 millions.

The chinese rank 6th with 1.1 millions.
fiji
Inferiority complex in the work. Chinese control all of SEAsia economy, has a military that could take over all of Asia, and a future Super Ego, oops, power, correct?
supernovasp
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Long important in the Vietnamese economy, Vietnamese of Chinese ancestry have been active in rice trading, milling, real estate, and banking in the south and shopkeeping, stevedoring, and mining in the north.


Rice trading= now in 2004???? hhaha
Milling= hahaha same as above
real estate= real estate is controlled by goverment obviously
banking= again obviously controlled by goverment
shoppng and steevdorin and mining= yea that really affect vietnamese economy -__-
tqt
the chinese do play an important role in vietnam economy. Do you people know that they control most of the dimsum restaurants?
CJK_OWER
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Oct 18 2004, 07:00 PM)
QUOTE
Long important in the Vietnamese economy, Vietnamese of Chinese ancestry have been active in rice trading, milling, real estate, and banking in the south and shopkeeping, stevedoring, and mining in the north.


Rice trading= now in 2004???? hhaha
Milling= hahaha same as above
real estate= real estate is controlled by goverment obviously
banking= again obviously controlled by goverment
shoppng and steevdorin and mining= yea that really affect vietnamese economy -__-
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ones again, please don't act as if you viet....
fiji
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Oct 18 2004, 07:00 PM)
QUOTE
Long important in the Vietnamese economy, Vietnamese of Chinese ancestry have been active in rice trading, milling, real estate, and banking in the south and shopkeeping, stevedoring, and mining in the north.


Rice trading= now in 2004???? hhaha
Milling= hahaha same as above
real estate= real estate is controlled by goverment obviously
banking= again obviously controlled by goverment
shoppng and steevdorin and mining= yea that really affect vietnamese economy -__-
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The real estate one is the biggest laugh. Yeah, real estate, and that's why rich @$$ millionaire Vietnamese can't own properties in Vietnam unless they are citizen.

Banking, rotflmao.gif rotflmao.gif rotflmao.gif .
Rocky Cuong V
I do not arguy with the fact that there are differnt Chinese small retail outlet in Mong Cai, because that is my hometown and I've seen it. how ever it doesn't suprise because Mong Cai is right next to China. How ever alot doesn't mean majority either.
CJK_OWER
QUOTE (tqt @ Oct 18 2004, 07:01 PM)
the chinese do play an important role in vietnam economy.  Do you people know that they control most of the dimsum restaurants?
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i don't see any point to argue with this stupid china man here since he has no glue what the hell he's talking about
tqt
I'm still waiting for these insecured chinese to provide facts to back up their claim that they contribute to most of the Gross Domestic Product of Vietnam or any other SE Asian countries.
Emperor
There's no doubt Chinese play an important role in Vietnam's economy.

Firstly, Chinese invesment in Vietnam is very big.
Secondly, China is one of Vietnam's trading partners.
Thirdly, Chinese own many companies in Vietnam.

Here's a perfect example of Chinese invesment in Vietnam: http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=18016

tqt and Cuong, i'm not going to waste my time by proving things like that. If you wan't more information about Chinese companies in Vietnam and projects that are financed by Chinese, you would have to do some research yourself.
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