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Rei
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Sources from inside Vietnam reported to us that on September 9, 2004, in the Commune of Dang Ya, district of Cu Pah, province of Gialai, Vietnamese officials coerced the Montagnards who have been working for the Government in the Commune, to organize a phoney violent demonstration by paying them money. This kind of staged managed demonstrations have been organized repeatedly (see the MFI press release of August 4, 2004) in the Central Highlands by the Vietnamese Government after the Peaceful Easter Demonstrations in order to falsely claim to the world that groups of Montagnard people are engaged in terrorist activities against the Vietnamese Government. Below is a summary of how the demonstration was first organized and then held under the tight control of the Vietnamese authorities.

On September 8, 2004 the day before the demonstration,Vietnamese officials instructed two Montagnards, Amur who is a member of Mother Front at the commune of Dang Ya, district of Cu Pah, and Amuc who is the chairman of the Ha-Bau commune, district of Dak Doa, in the province of Gialai, to coerce the Montagnards who have been working for the government in the commune of Dang Ya to organize a phoney violent demonstration, by promising them that they will be paid 5,000 Vietnam Dong each.

On September 9, 2004, at 8 am, Vietnamese officials gathered around 50 men and women who work for the Government in the commune of Dang Ya as police officers, soldiers and cadres and 7 villagers from the area and instructed them, who were all dressed as civilians, to demonstrate using sticks and throwing rocks as they were protesting violently against the Government, by attacking the gate of the communal building and throwing rocks into the communal office. During the event Government officials filmed them with a video camera. At around 12:00 O'clock noon, Government officials from the district of Cu Pah arrived in Dang Ya and at that point the demonstrators received their reward of 5,000 VND each. After they received their rewards, the demonstrators went back to their homes.

The allegations of the Vietnamese Government that Montagnard people are involved in terrorist activities have been denied for a long time by both democratic Governments and the United Nations months, in particular last July when the UN ECOSOC formally rejected such allegation. Notwithstanding such firm rejection by the international community, the Vietnamese Government continues to try to fool the world with phoney violent demonstrations and not allowing independent monitors and journalists to freely accede to the region, being scared that the truth about the mistreatment and repression suffered by the Montagnard people over the last 30 years would emerge.


http://www.unpo.org/news_detail.php?arg=40&par=1272

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Byron
Why is Rei posting Anti-Vietnam articles, espicially this one with the Montagnard protesting as being fake?
dalawapo
september 8th is my birthday! icon_sad.gif aww hhow can this happen on my birthday? cry2.gif
Nero874
QUOTE (Byron @ Oct 16 2004, 02:42 PM)
Why is Rei posting Anti-Vietnam articles, espicially this one with the Montagnard protesting as being fake?

Espicially from the UNPO which is very anti Vietnam and always charges how Khmer Krom should have South Vietnam and crap.  lol

See how it is always Cambodians who start the flame wars even after there is peace?

Like I said, never trust a Cambodian.  Funny how Rei tries to be friends with Vietnamese, when there is a flame war, but after those who argue against the Cambodians are gone, he shows his true colours.
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In short, rei's a loser.
Byron
I've seen many articles about the Montagnard protesting and this is the first time I read about this "phoney protesting".

So how did this article know about it? I really doubt the Vietnam government would admit that they organized the protest and for what reason? To organize a montagnard protest and quell it would harm Vietnam's image.
Rei
QUOTE (Byron @ Oct 16 2004, 05:36 PM)
I've seen many articles about the Montagnard protesting and this is the first time I read about this "phoney protesting".

So how did this article know about it?  I really doubt the Vietnam government would admit that they organized the protest and for what reason?  To organize a montagnard protest and quell it would harm Vietnam's image.
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There are always two sides to a story Byron, you should read the article properly. The vietnamese government refuse western reporters into that area...

Why would the Montagnard have a violent protest, when they know the repurcussions of the communist government. What governemnt would admit to anything such as creating a phony demonstration.....

You should really think about it.....
dalawapo
where do you be bryon?! ur always in and out like an unfit father!
Cold_As_Ice
QUOTE (Rei @ Oct 18 2004, 01:55 AM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Oct 16 2004, 05:36 PM)
I've seen many articles about the Montagnard protesting and this is the first time I read about this "phoney protesting".

So how did this article know about it?  I really doubt the Vietnam government would admit that they organized the protest and for what reason?  To organize a montagnard protest and quell it would harm Vietnam's image.
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There are always two sides to a story Byron, you should read the article properly. The vietnamese government refuse western reporters into that area...

Why would the Montagnard have a violent protest, when they know the repurcussions of the communist government. What governemnt would admit to anything such as creating a phony demonstration.....

You should really think about it.....
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Because they were promised by the Montagnard organization here in the U.S. that if they protest against the goverment they will have safe passage to the U.S. afterwards.

Rei, get a life. Don't you have anything better to do then to find Anti-Vietnamese/Vietnam articals that's full of bull$hit? You should be more concerned about your country Cambodia (which is a hell hole) instead of Vietnam.

Remember the one other thread Rei? I proved you to be a liar and try to twist the truth a lot.
Rei
huh and you couldn't tell i was joking on the other thread. coz of gramatic error. LOL
I let you have you're little victory on that one, you deserve it by default.

Bull$hit articles?

This article shows another perspective of the Montagnard issue, you don't have to beleive it. I'm just bringing the other side.

Anti-viet article??
I thought Montagnard are vietnamese too.

Btw can you show me information on the promise made by the Montagnard organization to bring the Montagnard to America. I want to read.

show me all the bull$hit articles that i posted...

Did i say anything about vietnam being a hell hole?

The only open minded viet member i see here is vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe... to bad about the rest......
Cold_As_Ice
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The truth is that on April 10 and 11, 2004, some extremist elements in localities in Dak Lak and Gia Lai provinces, with external incitement, especially from the Montagnard Foundation led by Ksor Kok, induced, deceived and forced the local people to carry out demonstrations. On April 9, 2004, the so-called "Montagnard Foundation" in the United States released an announcement that there would be demonstrations in the Central Highlands on April 10, with the participation of approximately 150,000 people. The Montagnard Foundation even dared to admit its involvement with the demonstrations in the Central Highlands. The organizers of the demonstration spread rumors that United Nations airplanes were available to migrate local people abroad and, in various areas, they used money to urge the people to demonstrate and threatened to blacklist and punish those who would not follow them.

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Rei
nice link

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Cold_As_Ice
They protested/rioted because they used money to urge the people to do so and they were made to believe that they could get on an airplane and take off to the U.S. or so afterwards.

Do you really think they would dare to protest/riot if they wern't promised with money and a visa to the U.S.? Talktohand.gif
Rei
QUOTE (Cold_As_Ice @ Oct 18 2004, 08:55 AM)
They protested/rioted because they used money to urge the people to do so and they were made to believe that they could get on an airplane and take off to the U.S. or so afterwards.

Do you really think they would dare to protest/riot if they wern't promised with money and a visa to the U.S.?  Talktohand.gif
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Thats from the same link that you gave embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2

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The Montagnard Foundation even dared to admit its involvement with the demonstrations in the Central Highlands


What kind of news service use the word "dared", hahaha

sounds like a communist news service to me

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Cold_As_Ice
QUOTE (Rei @ Oct 18 2004, 09:01 AM)
QUOTE (Cold_As_Ice @ Oct 18 2004, 08:55 AM)
They protested/rioted because they used money to urge the people to do so and they were made to believe that they could get on an airplane and take off to the U.S. or so afterwards.

Do you really think they would dare to protest/riot if they wern't promised with money and a visa to the U.S.?  Talktohand.gif
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Thats from the same link that you gave embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2

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The Montagnard Foundation even dared to admit its involvement with the demonstrations in the Central Highlands


What kind of news service use the world "dared", hahaha

sounds like a communist news service to me
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Uhhh.. how stupid can you be? It was a quote. icon_rolleyes.gif
Rei
A quote from a government site embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2


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Cold_As_Ice
QUOTE (Rei @ Oct 16 2004, 10:26 AM)
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Sources from inside Vietnam reported to us that on September 9, 2004, in the Commune of Dang Ya, district of Cu Pah, province of Gialai, Vietnamese officials coerced the Montagnards who have been working for the Government in the Commune, to organize a phoney violent demonstration by paying them money. This kind of staged managed demonstrations have been organized repeatedly (see the MFI press release of August 4, 2004) in the Central Highlands by the Vietnamese Government after the Peaceful Easter Demonstrations in order to falsely claim to the world that groups of Montagnard people are engaged in terrorist activities against the Vietnamese Government. Below is a summary of how the demonstration was first organized and then held under the tight control of the Vietnamese authorities.

On September 8, 2004 the day before the demonstration,Vietnamese officials instructed two Montagnards, Amur who is a member of Mother Front at the commune of Dang Ya, district of Cu Pah, and Amuc who is the chairman of the Ha-Bau commune, district of Dak Doa, in the province of Gialai, to coerce the Montagnards who have been working for the government in the commune of Dang Ya to organize a phoney violent demonstration, by promising them that they will be paid 5,000 Vietnam Dong each.

On September 9, 2004, at 8 am, Vietnamese officials gathered around 50 men and women who work for the Government in the commune of Dang Ya as police officers, soldiers and cadres and 7 villagers from the area and instructed them, who were all dressed as civilians, to demonstrate using sticks and throwing rocks as they were protesting violently against the Government, by attacking the gate of the communal building and throwing rocks into the communal office. During the event Government officials filmed them with a video camera. At around 12:00 O'clock noon, Government officials from the district of Cu Pah arrived in Dang Ya and at that point the demonstrators received their reward of 5,000 VND each. After they received their rewards, the demonstrators went back to their homes.

The allegations of the Vietnamese Government that Montagnard people are involved in terrorist activities have been denied for a long time by both democratic Governments and the United Nations months, in particular last July when the UN ECOSOC formally rejected such allegation. Notwithstanding such firm rejection by the international community, the Vietnamese Government continues to try to fool the world with phoney violent demonstrations and not allowing independent monitors and journalists to freely accede to the region, being scared that the truth about the mistreatment and repression suffered by the Montagnard people over the last 30 years would emerge.


http://www.unpo.org/news_detail.php?arg=40&par=1272

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I thought this part was hilarious.
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On September 8, 2004 the day before the demonstration,Vietnamese officials instructed two Montagnards, Amur who is a member of Mother Front at the commune of Dang Ya, district of Cu Pah, and Amuc who is the chairman of the Ha-Bau commune, district of Dak Doa, in the province of Gialai, to coerce the Montagnards who have been working for the government in the commune of Dang Ya to organize a phoney violent demonstration, by promising them that they will be paid 5,000 Vietnam Dong each.


Yeah man, Vietnamese goverment paid Montagnards to protest against the goverment. It's like President Bush paying a group of people to protest against him so he can look bad in the eyes of others. icon_rolleyes.gif

And about the part about Vietnamese dressing up as Montagnard. ROFL! They're using the Cambodian tactic. It's just like how Cambodians claim that the Khmer Rouge are really Vietnamese dressed up as Cambodians. ROFL.
Rei
I never said that this information was true...

BTW you forgot this part

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On September 9, 2004, at 8 am, Vietnamese officials gathered around 50 men and women who work for the Government in the commune of Dang Ya as police officers, soldiers and cadres and 7 villagers from the area and instructed them, who were all dressed as civilians, to demonstrate using sticks and throwing rocks as they were protesting violently against the Government, by attacking the gate of the communal building and throwing rocks into the communal office. During the event Government officials filmed them with a video camera


Worked for the government.....
Cold_As_Ice
Rightttttt. Vietnamese goverment set up a protest to protest against their own goverment. That seems very logical. icon_rolleyes.gif

It's useless trying to speak common sense into that little brain of yours.
Rei
QUOTE (Cold_As_Ice @ Oct 18 2004, 09:21 AM)
Rightttttt. Vietnamese goverment set up a protest to protest against their own goverment. That seems very logical. icon_rolleyes.gif

It's useless trying to speak common sense into that little brain of yours.
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Man if you can't give good argument, why argue at all.

All your arguments are just personal and racist attacks.

You haven't given me anything substantial at all, I never said i beleive the unpo article.

The government didn't set up a proper prostest, just a phony one. They want to prove to the world that the Montagnards are terrorist, and showing that they are violent etc.. would prove to the world that what they've been saying is true. Montagnards are terrorist.

But everyone does not beleive this as stated in the unpo article...
Fil-Am
QUOTE (Byron @ Oct 16 2004, 01:42 PM)
Why is Rei posting Anti-Vietnam articles, espicially this one with the Montagnard protesting as being fake?

Espicially from the UNPO which is very anti Vietnam and always charges how Khmer Krom should have South Vietnam and crap.  lol

See how it is always Cambodians who start the flame wars even after there is peace?

Like I said, never trust a Cambodian.  Funny how Rei tries to be friends with Vietnamese, when there is a flame war, but after those who argue against the Cambodians are gone, he shows his true colours.
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How true, I have noticed many anti-vietnamese threads started by khmer trouble-makers when things started to seem quiet in the Viet. Chat.

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