Journey of Mankind
The Peopling of the World

The Bradshaw Foundation, in association with Stephen Oppenheimer, presents a virtual global journey of modern man over the last 160,000 years. The map will show for the first time the interaction of migration and climate over this period. We are the descendants of a few small groups of tropical Africans who united in the face of adversity, not only to the point of survival but to the development of a sophisticated social interaction and culture expressed through many forms. Based on a synthesis of the mtDNA and Y chromosome evidence with archaeology, climatology and fossil study, Stephen Oppenheimer has tracked the routes and timing of migration, placing it in context with ancient rock art around the world.

As the science of genetics advances and archaelogical discoveries are made, the Journey of Mankind map will be updated accordingly.

=====
Vietnam would have been populated before China?

Click here to see how
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/

if you have heard of people refering to "austronesian", they prefer that kind of people

Someone in the Chinese section talked about a "Beijing Man" which would be as old as 600,000 years??? but I can find any trace of him

I think Made_In_China gave this link about Chinese Fossil Hominids found.
http://www.chineseprehistory.org//table.htm

thats a nice map, but they didnt show any population into the philippine islands and negritos (negriod people, one of the oldest humans to inhabit asia) are found in the philippines and are part of that early migration like 80,000 years ago or something. the malay race (a mongoliod people) came second into the islands by seafaring and their native culture and language is known as "Austronesian" i think that is like 10,000 years ago. very recent if compared to this timeline.

here is a map tracking the migration of the Malay people from southern china into the islands of taiwan, philippines, indonesia and then spliting east and west subsquently spreading their austronesian language and culture.

It would be nice if the show the slow process of pangeas movements too.

LOL the Vietnamese on AF seem to be hell bent on trying to up themselves against China in anyway.

Not just AF, that been our mentality for years.

I don't blame you considering all the thousand year rule they had over you, it's expected for you to hate them.

CMT2000=not chinese or japanese but cambodian

i admire vietnamese attempt to recognize their difference from chinese and seeing them as invaders even after 1,000 years.

filipinos on the otherhand, think they are all spanish after only 300 years of colonization by the spanish...

I might probably find that, but that wouldn't be on same topic!!!

I know you are being sarcastic. 2

He doesn't need to be sarcastic. But the Spaniards live in Europe. If you want to meet them, go to Madrid, Barcelona, Seville... not in the Philippines!!!

If you type in Peking man instead of Bejiing man you come across some information. Peking is the old name for Bejing and the West refered it to Peking Man more then Bejing man. If I am not correct it was actually in Bejing but near a city close to Bejing by the Yangzi river. Compare the guy from Java and Peking Man and it should give you a lot info.

Peking Man? Thank you.

mmm... It's a UNESCO World Heritage Site... So here it is:

http://whc.unesco.org/sites/449.htm

http://www.unesco.org/ext/field/beijing/whc/pkm-site.htm

http://www.china.org.cn/english/kuaixun/74857.htm

"Austronesian" is way after all this. Basically, according to Spencer Wells (a leading expert at Stanford and Cambrige who specializes in tracing the Y-Chromosome/male lineage), all of the people in the world resembled Africans until around 30,000 years ago, when people reached farther north and when the Ice Age began to arrive. He's basing this on the archeological fossil record.
So, any migration before that is all by "African"-like people and before any of the modern ethnic groups have formed. I read somewhere that up until the Neolithic (around 5000 B. C. in East Asia), people in Southeast Asia and southern China were still African in skull characteristics.
Proto/Paleo-"Mongoloid" and "classical Mongoloid" characteristics developed in the north in successive processes. According to Wells based on Y-chrosome lineage analysis, these types later colonized Southeast Asia in successive waves starting from 10,000 years ago, when agriculture and animal husbandry were established in northern China and central China.
Both Wells and Cavalli-Sforza (two of the pioneers in using genetics to try to trace human origins and development) now concede that Southeast Asians are mainly a mixture, of various degrees, of "Mongoloids" and the orginal "Oceanians", who are sub-Saharan African in appearance and who kept the original look of humans because there was no need for adaptation.

Peking Man and Java Man (Homo Erectus) are not direct ancestors of any modern humans. They came out of Africa in an earlier wave and were largely displaced by Homo Sapiens who later came out of Africa. There could've been some admixture though but there is virtually no genetic evidence for it.

What I have written is mainly based on the latest consensus of geneticists, archeologists, and anthropologists. The Journey of Man by Spencer Wells is designed to introduce this subject to those interested laymon. It is a good starting point to understand the key concepts and theories.

For anyone interested in this, I urge you not to speculate wildly or depend on internet sources. This subjective is very complicated and multi-faceted and even "experts" at Standford are constantly regrouping their thoughts. Get books or PDF documents from universities/researchers but learn the concepts and vocabulary first, or else you won't know how to interpret what you read, let alone understand it..

i was watching a pbs documentary on the neanderthal. it was very interesting, it showed a map of the neanderthal already spread throughout europe and also little areas east, and then the ancestor of modern man began to migrate from after and "replaced" the neanderthal.

they scholars were arguign wether there was any interbreeding between these two. so far the dna analysis or whatever did not support evidence of any interbreeding.. but they said it still is a possiblity because interbreeding has always happened when human being come in to contact with others who are "different" i guess he is refering to the differences within the modern human like mongoliod/caucasian/africiod, different cultures/religion/languages and how we mix ?

Hah! It's you who's being sarcastic. For the past 2000 years, there has never been a year when Vietnamese would accept themselves as a chinese. We could be more proud to say that we're more related to the Hmong, then the chinese.

But there a lot of Viets that say they are part Chinese or " I am Chinese but my parents are born in Vietnam."

you know how many ethnic chinese that used to live in saigon, there were 1,000,000 of us, 500,000 left oversea, so of course you will see alot vietnamese that are ethnically chinese

^I never claim it was false did I?? I only telling ppl what I heard.

Schoolmates told me that Vietnam used to be populated by ugly 4 toed people. Then the Chinaman came and made them have 5 toes.

Your schoolmates were dumbasses, and you're an @$$hole.

We should thank the CHinese for colonizing Vietnam. Or we would be all walking awkwardly in the halls of foriegn schools being mock for having only 4 toes and ugly.

I suppose you should really thank Japanese for taking out China in WWII as well as raping intensively raping Chinese women as well huh?
Well I don't blame you because if they haven't done that, then you wouldn't have being born.

i wonder if someone will say vietnamese have 2 sperm, one to trace to china and the other before china lol

Who told you that?

Your mama told him that last night.

With the help of your papa.

My gosh, viets having four toes and chinese people coming in and giving them 5 toes? that's not scientifically correct. IF we had four toes and now we have five toes, it would have been because of evolution. Not freaken chinese people coming in and giving us 5 toes, that's one of hte most stupid things i have ever heard.

they are bunch of dumbasses !!

Hahhaha damn man, Viets must be descendants from the Simpsons or related.

Oooo the Chinese gave em the fifth toe..hahahaah 2

I think the common myth/urban legend flying around is that Vietnamese have 5 toes BUT one of them is bent.

Did they give us all ???

For those who are new here, they needed a Viet architect to design and build Beijing, hahaaaha

Oh, that was in this old thread http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=16304