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XigonCongchua
they're singing the folk song "Qua Cầu Gió Bay" and I understand every single word that they sing love2.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lZ6fSwCB18...feature=related
Yêu nhau cởi áo ối à cho nhau
Về nhà dối rằng cha dối mẹ a á a
Này a á qua cầu
Này a á qua cầu
Tình tình tình gió bay
Tình tình tình gió bay

It's so touching to see that though being separated for hundreds of years, they still carry on with them the Viet culture.

Qua Cầu Gió Bay sung by Vietnamese
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mslk-KAqzEs
Yêu nhau cởi áo ối à cho nhau
Về nhà dối rằng cha dối mẹ a á a
Rằng a ới a là qua cầu
Rằng a ới a là qua cầu
Tình tình tình gió bay
Tình tình tình gió bay

Yêu nhau cởi nhẫn ối cho nhau
Về nhà dối rằng cha dối mẹ a á a
Rằng a ới a là qua cầu
Rằng a ới a là qua cầu
Tình tình tình đánh rơi
Tình tình tình đánh rơi
asean.asia
You me "Qua Cầu Gió Bay" ok? kiss.gif
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(asean.asia @ Mar 18 2009, 06:36 PM) [snapback]4169897[/snapback]
You me "Qua Cầu Gió Bay" ok? kiss.gif

you're dreaming
asean.asia
If not, how about "Xuống Cầu Gió Bay" ok?
Tav6
maybe it is just me but when the song is sung in chinese it hurt my ears .... i like the viet version better
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(Tav6 @ Mar 18 2009, 06:40 PM) [snapback]4169904[/snapback]
maybe it is just me but when the song is sung in chinese it hurt my ears .... i like the viet version better

cái đó là tiếng việt đâu phải tiếng tàu đâu embarassedlaugh.gif

yea tại vì she ca in high pitch quá embarassedlaugh.gif

This is the Chinese version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm3-Lpeyr5k...feature=related
Tav6
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Mar 18 2009, 06:43 PM) [snapback]4169908[/snapback]
cái đó là tiếng việt đâu phải tiếng tàu đâu embarassedlaugh.gif

yea tại vì she ca in high pitch quá embarassedlaugh.gif

This is the Chinese version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm3-Lpeyr5k...feature=related



well u can tell that she has an accent and not really viet .. though ... it sounds like when an american speaking in vietnamese ... u can sorta understand what they said but their accent makes it sounds weird embarassedlaugh.gif
asean.asia
^ go say that to Hue accent. kiss.gif
XigonCongchua
I can understand her perfectly shrug.gif

you probably have lived in the US for too long so you're not used to a different accent.

Her accent actually sounds closer to the Northern Viet accent than the Southern Viet accent is to the Northern Viet accent.
XigonCongchua
Here's another version of the song beerchug.gif
http://www.imeem.com/people/vHiU5a/music/z...ua-cau-gio-bay/
ltk
Why don't you just call them Vietnamese instead of whatever fancy word like Jing or Jang kiss.gif
phobotaichin
QUOTE(ltk @ Mar 18 2009, 10:52 PM) [snapback]4169989[/snapback]
Why don't you just call them Vietnamese instead of whatever fancy word like Jing or Jang kiss.gif


Eh, could anyone tell me what's "Jing"?
jose cuervo
I'll just leave this thread alone. But lets just say none of those songs sounded Viet at all. A very harsh Chinese accent singing the lyrics makes it incomprehensible. embarassedlaugh.gif

bluedestiny
Gai bac dep qua va hat hay nua--Ha Phuong.
Kaosq
Vietnamese people back then weren't so conservative after all. biggrin.gif
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Mar 18 2009, 08:04 PM) [snapback]4170007[/snapback]
I'll just leave this thread alone. But lets just say none of those songs sounded Viet at all. A very harsh Chinese accent singing the lyrics makes it incomprehensible. embarassedlaugh.gif

1. incomprehensible? Are you kidding me? I understand them perfectly fine. Since you're Southern Vietnamese and you have been living in the US since you were five, you're probably not used to the singing of old Northern Viet song embarassedlaugh.gif

Here's another Northern Viet folk song sung by a Northern Viet singer. No, the singer doesn't have a Chinese accent. She's 100% Vietnamese, lives in Vietnam for her entire life and sings with 100% Northern Viet accent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPRMY-u7pDc...feature=related
Can you understand what she sings? I can understand her very well.
If you don't understand the song "Qua Cầu Gió Bay" sung by the ethnic Kinh girls in China, I don't think you can understand this "Ngồi Tựa Song Thao" song.

Let's see if you can write out about 80% of the lyric of the song "Ngồi Tựa Song Thao" just by listening to it.


2. What do you mean "those songs"? I only posted ONE song sung by ethnic Viet/Kinh in China, the rest are songs sung by Vietnamese from Vietnam. If you have trouble comprehending them then you need to check your Vietnamese.
I also posted a version in Mandarin but don't tell me you confused that Mandarin version with Vietnamese version because everyone knows it's clearly not Vietnamese.
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(phobotaichin @ Mar 18 2009, 07:57 PM) [snapback]4169994[/snapback]
Eh, could anyone tell me what's "Jing"?

Jing trong tiếng phổ thông có nghĩa là Kinh, là dân tộc Kinh ấy.

Viet ethnic is China is called "Jing".
phobotaichin
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Mar 18 2009, 11:04 PM) [snapback]4170007[/snapback]
I'll just leave this thread alone. But lets just say none of those songs sounded Viet at all. A very harsh Chinese accent singing the lyrics makes it incomprehensible. embarassedlaugh.gif


you do have problem with your Vietnamese embarassedlaugh.gif
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(phobotaichin @ Mar 18 2009, 10:47 PM) [snapback]4170163[/snapback]
you do have problem with your Vietnamese embarassedlaugh.gif

Thanks god...Now I don't feel like I'm only one that can understand the song icon_smile.gif

It's weird because there are several youtube videos of ethnic Vietnamese in China singing Vietnamese and I understand them fine just like this one, but several people commented that they didn't understand the songs and I was like "What the heck". Though there were a few videos that I didn't understand but I understand most of them fine.
thumbsUp
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Mar 19 2009, 01:43 AM) [snapback]4170158[/snapback]
1. incomprehensible? Are you kidding me? I understand them perfectly fine. Since you're Southern Vietnamese and you have been living in the US since you were five, you're probably not used to the singing of old Northern Viet song embarassedlaugh.gif

Here's another Northern Viet folk song sung by a Northern Viet singer. No, the singer doesn't have a Chinese accent. She's 100% Vietnamese, lives in Vietnam for her entire life and sings with 100% Northern Viet accent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPRMY-u7pDc...feature=related
Can you understand what she sings? I can understand her very well.
If you don't understand the song "Qua Cầu Gió Bay" sung by the ethnic Kinh girls in China, I don't think you can understand this "Ngồi Tựa Song Thao" song.

Let's see if you can write out about 80% of the lyric of the song "Ngồi Tựa Song Thao" just by listening to it.


2. What do you mean "those songs"? I only posted ONE song sung by ethnic Viet/Kinh in China, the rest are songs sung by Vietnamese from Vietnam. If you have trouble comprehending them then you need to check your Vietnamese.
I also posted a version in Mandarin but don't tell me you confused that Mandarin version with Vietnamese version because everyone knows it's clearly not Vietnamese.



Jose has a point though. It is comprehensible but you can tell there is some chinese influence there. The clip above you can barely hear the singing, but the sounds is more Vietnamese than the first clip you posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYOMym4nFXU
katana300
I can understand it but it's so hard to listen to.

QUOTE
Ngồi Tựa Song Thao


That is "Ngồi Tựa Sông Đào" not Thao. Now you are the one that got problem hearing. It even said dao on the title.
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(katana300 @ Mar 18 2009, 11:06 PM) [snapback]4170178[/snapback]
I can understand it but it's so hard to listen to.
That is "Ngồi Tựa Sông Đào" not Thao. Now you are the one that got problem hearing. It even said dao on the title.

lol I heard she sing "song đào" in the song but for some reason I misread the title and I thought "thao" was the same as đào embarassedlaugh.gif
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(thumbsUp @ Mar 18 2009, 11:02 PM) [snapback]4170175[/snapback]
Jose has a point though. It is comprehensible but you can tell there is some chinese influence there. The clip above you can barely hear the singing, but the sounds is more Vietnamese than the first clip you posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYOMym4nFXU

of course there is a slight influence of chinese accent, but it's not incomprehensible as jose said. There are many Vietnamese accents (Northern accent, North Central accent, Central accent, Southern accent) and this is just another accent. If you can understand all Viet accents fine then you can understand it fine. I actually understand it better than Central Vietnamese accent. icon_smile.gif
thumbsUp
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Mar 19 2009, 02:13 AM) [snapback]4170183[/snapback]
of course there is a slight influence of chinese accent, but it's not incomprehensible as jose said. There are many Vietnamese accents (Northern accent, North Central accent, Central accent, Southern accent) and this is just another accent. If you can understand all Viet accents fine then you can understand it fine. I actually understand it better than Central Vietnamese accent. icon_smile.gif


Of course silly, they're singing. icon_wink.gif

It just felt like you didn't notice the slight chinese accent. Glad all is cleared.
XigonCongchua
Yes, there's a slight Chinese accent since they lived in China for many hundreds years.

But it's like Southern Vietnamese has a mixed of Cantonese and Khmer accent, while Central Vietnamese sounds like it's influenced by Lao accent. embarassedlaugh.gif

different accents but we understand each other perfectly fine...Like British people can understand New Yorkers and New Yorkers can understand Texans etc...
jose cuervo
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Mar 18 2009, 10:43 PM) [snapback]4170158[/snapback]
1. incomprehensible? Are you kidding me? I understand them perfectly fine. Since you're Southern Vietnamese and you have been living in the US since you were five, you're probably not used to the singing of old Northern Viet song embarassedlaugh.gif

Here's another Northern Viet folk song sung by a Northern Viet singer. No, the singer doesn't have a Chinese accent. She's 100% Vietnamese, lives in Vietnam for her entire life and sings with 100% Northern Viet accent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPRMY-u7pDc...feature=related
Can you understand what she sings? I can understand her very well.
If you don't understand the song "Qua Cầu Gió Bay" sung by the ethnic Kinh girls in China, I don't think you can understand this "Ngồi Tựa Song Thao" song.

Let's see if you can write out about 80% of the lyric of the song "Ngồi Tựa Song Thao" just by listening to it.


2. What do you mean "those songs"? I only posted ONE song sung by ethnic Viet/Kinh in China, the rest are songs sung by Vietnamese from Vietnam. If you have trouble comprehending them then you need to check your Vietnamese.
I also posted a version in Mandarin but don't tell me you confused that Mandarin version with Vietnamese version because everyone knows it's clearly not Vietnamese.


The first song is with a heavy Chinese accent singing it. I don't have a problem with the 2nd. A few weeks ago you posted someone with a heavy Chinese accent singing some other Vietnamese song that also was very similar to this.






XigonCongchua
There's a slight Chinese accent there as thumbsup said (and I agreed) but not incomprehensible like you said. If you can't understand it there's something wrong with your Vietnamese.

QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Mar 18 2009, 11:24 PM) [snapback]4170191[/snapback]
Yes, there's a slight Chinese accent since they lived in China for many hundreds years.

But it's like Southern Vietnamese has a mixed of Cantonese and Khmer accent, while Central Vietnamese sounds like it's influenced by Lao accent. embarassedlaugh.gif

different accents but we understand each other perfectly fine...Like British people can understand New Yorkers and New Yorkers can understand Texans etc...



BTW you still didn't answer whether you could understand the song "Ngồi Tựa Song Đào" that I posted. That will help us assessing your Vietnamese. icon_smile.gif
jose cuervo
In fact here's the other video you posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wzpqgvKH-E...feature=related
Even other Viets from around the world and even in VN has a hard time understanding the heavy Chinese accent songs.
Some of their comments.

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Cái này gọi là hát tiếng Việt hả?

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cái này ko phải tiếng việt ,not vietnamese

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mày lằng nhằng quá thằng Nam Kỳ kia, mày không thấy bọn Tàu nó hiếp dâm tiếng Việt à? Hay mày là Tàu?

^ I like this last comment the best.

XigonCongchua
I can't believe you're so racist that you alienate even your own people in China. embarassedlaugh.gif

The girl in that video does have a more heavy Chinese accent which is why I could understand only 70% of what she was singing. But the one I posted in this thread I could understand 100%.

BTW, why are you keep ignoring my question? Could you write out at least 70-80% of the lyric in this Northern Viet folk song just by listening to it? biggrin.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPRMY-u7pDc...feature=related
I'm just trying to see how good your Vietnamese is. Don't cheat. biggrin.gif
Tav6
seriously princess


the jing girl that sing the viet song doesn't even sound like she is singing in viet .... and there is nothing wrong with my vietnamese

jose cuervo
QUOTE(Tav6 @ Mar 18 2009, 11:56 PM) [snapback]4170229[/snapback]
seriously princess
the jing girl that sing the viet song doesn't even sound like she is singing in viet .... and there is nothing wrong with my vietnamese


According to Xigon you are "mat goc". laugh.gif
And yes if you cannot understand the Jing girl singing in VIetnamese 100% you are not a Vietnamese. laugh.gif

XigonCongchua
^ I guess you're not used to the Viet accents that you have been not exposed much to. I got used to listen to all kinds of Vietnamese and that's probably why I could understand her so well. I actually understand her better than some Central Vietnamese people.
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Mar 18 2009, 11:59 PM) [snapback]4170235[/snapback]
According to Xigon you are "mat goc". laugh.gif
And yes if you cannot understand the Jing girl singing in VIetnamese 100% you are not a Vietnamese. laugh.gif

why are you keep ignoring my question, sir? embarassedlaugh.gif

Can you write out at least 70% of the lyric in the song "Ngồi Tựa Song Đào"?
katana300
Seriously! What was that?

I could understand this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lZ6fSwCB18...feature=related but this one
QUOTE


Clueless.
XigonCongchua
Yea the one that jose posted has a heavy Chinese accent but I can still understand part of it. Listen carefully to it.

this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lZ6fSwCB18...feature=related I understand 100% because the Vietnamese there is clear.
jose cuervo
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Mar 19 2009, 12:05 AM) [snapback]4170242[/snapback]
why are you keep ignoring my question, sir? embarassedlaugh.gif

Can you write out at least 70% of the lyric in the song "Ngồi Tựa Song Đào"?


I don't need to prove anything. But why is it that you always make these kinds of threads that links Vietnamese people with Chinese? One or two is fine. But every other thread it's like this. I'm not the only member that thinks this also.



XigonCongchua
What the heck? Those people are ethnic Vietnamese living in China. They are Vietnamese, not Chinese. Quit being too racist. Talktohand.gif Didn't you have enough of ethnic cleansing talk? Talktohand.gif

The fact that you're not able to understand that song Ngoi Tua Song Dao shows that you're not too fluent in Vietnamese and it would make sense to see why the video I posted in the first post is incomprehensible to you. How can you understand it when you can't even understand a folk song sung by a singer from North Vietnam?
jose cuervo
delete.
jose cuervo
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Mar 19 2009, 12:21 AM) [snapback]4170257[/snapback]
What the heck? Those people are ethnic Vietnamese living in China. They are Vietnamese, not Chinese. Quit being too racist. Talktohand.gif Didn't you have enough of ethnic cleansing talk? Talktohand.gif

The fact that you're not able to understand that song Ngoi Tua Song Dao shows that you're not too fluent in Vietnamese and it would make sense to see why the video I posted in the first post is incomprehensible to you. How can you understand it when you can't even understand a folk song sung by a singer from North Vietnam?


I didn't even click on the youtube link. Why should I prove how Vietnamese I am? My love is for VN and it's people. That's enough.

katana300
How about this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04zOBQJR_1g biggrin.gif

Chill out people.
TomAsia
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Mar 19 2009, 03:21 AM) [snapback]4170257[/snapback]
What the heck? Those people are ethnic Vietnamese living in China. They are Vietnamese, not Chinese. Q


Actually, those are Jings living in Vietnam and China. There are no Ethnic Vietnamese or Chinese. Vietnamese and Chinese are made up of many ethnic groups, one of which is Jing.


TomAsia
Wiseman
These ethnic Jing don't even care about Vietnam. laugh.gif
In 1979 when Deng Xiao Peng wanted to teach Vietnam a lesson plenty of these ethnic Jing fought for the PLA. Goes to show you how much they care about you guys. beerchug.gif


You Viets care about them, but they don't care about you guys.
Legion
jose, is that you?

heart.gif

They see me trollinggggggg...patrollingggggg...trynna catch me ridding dirty.
XigonCongchua
They're singing the same folk songs as ours, playing the same instrument as ours, dressing the same way as ours. Looks like they're still preserving their Viet culture. That's what matters to me. Don't care what the chinese troll wiseman said.
Legion
we're like brothers and sisters...on opposite sides. Nothing personal. Besides this is a cultural thread.
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