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Japan to raise English fluency

The Japanese government has set an ambitious goal of making the Japanese fluent in English, by recommending that all English classes for those aged 16 to 18 are taught mainly in that language from 2013.

The inability of most Japanese to speak English, despite compulsory classes from the age of 13, is well known and a source of embarrassment for Japan.

In Stockholm last month, Professor Toshihide Masukawa, a co-winner of this year's Nobel Prize in physics, insisted on delivering his lecture in Japanese.

Despite being able to read scientific literature in English, the 68-year-old academic cannot communicate in English and is known to dislike the language. But one thing he regretted was not being able to converse with other Nobel laureates.

The revised curriculum guideline recently announced by the Education Ministry is aimed at avoiding such situations.

English teachers at senior high schools in Japan will teach their classes in English and limit the use of Japanese only to the explanation of complicated grammar.

Senior high school students will also be required to master 1,800 new English words, up from the present quota of 1,300, while those aged 13 to 15 at junior high school will have to learn 3,000 new words, an increase of 800.

The new quotas will put the Japanese on a par with the level of English taught at schools in China and South Korea.

Mr Tsutomu Shiozaki, head of a national federation of English teachers, welcomed the new guidelines.

'People say that if we teach entirely in English, students will not be able to follow the lessons. That's not true. Language is to be used. If we use it often, students' awareness will change,' he was quoted as saying by the Asahi Shimbun.

Mr Shiozaki is the headmaster of a senior high school which was one of several chosen by the ministry a few years ago to teach English classes entirely in English.

But for most of Japan's English teachers, the new curriculum guideline is bad news, especially for those in their 40s and 50s who generally do not speak English well and are often terribly embarrassed by their pronunciation.

Mr Yo Hamada, 26, an English teacher at a school in Yokote city, Akita prefecture in northern Japan, feels it is pointless to teach in English if the format of university entrance examinations remains unchanged.

At present, English classes at high school focus on helping students to pass these examinations, which test only reading and comprehension and include a listening section. This is why, while most Japanese leave school able to read and write English to some extent, few end up being able to speak the language.

'Unless the requirements of entrance exams are changed, in fact unless the whole system of English education is changed, I do not see the point of trying to teach in English. I myself am reluctant to do so,' said Mr Yo.

He is proficient in English, having attended graduate school at the Tokyo campus of an American university.

Professor Matsuo Kimura, an English language education expert at Aoyama Gakuin University in Tokyo, believes that with the right training, it is feasible to teach in English. But he stressed that an integrated English curriculum from primary to senior high school is necessary to produce students who can speak English.

'At present, such a curriculum does not exist,' he said.

From 2011, 11- and 12-year-old Japanese children in primary schools will spend an hour a week using simple English for 'international understanding'.

But many think that is not enough.

Getting the pronunciation right is a problem for most Japanese and when the typical Japanese speaks English, it is often barely intelligible to a foreigner.

Most Japanese learners use the Japanese script to notate English sounds - something which virtually guarantees that what comes out of their mouths resembles Japanese more than English.

(The Straits Times: Japan to raise English fluency)
ham_let
I actually love the fact that most Japanese people can't speak English.

I mean, it's the reason why I will NEVER return to Japan, but I'm fascinated by the fact that they've proven that they don't need English and that English isn't going to dominate Japan's academic circles and such.

I suppose I shouldn't be using the present tense anymore. It's a shame that Japan is becoming an epic fail. A reborn interest in English may save them. No promises, though.
yhellothar
Japan really is not epic fail. The only reason why their GDP has been so low is because their population is shrinking. They should do fairly well after the crisis is over, they have a big edge in several key renewables/clean energy techs and robotics.
Suijen
You don't learn a language like that. The one thing that builds English fluency is exposure to English. If you don't need it to communicate, it's really all fluff.
kellyhayes
This will be good for them. This is the way the only way to communicate to other people but attaining English fluency is hard to achieve you must have exposure to English. If they don't need it to communicate, it's really all fluff. They must learn how to communiate it and use it. To get their tongue get the pronunciation of the word perfectly.

regards,
kelly

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foi2
yah... well... english isn't really required in japan. You don't need it to get a job, unlike in many other parts of the world. So it's pretty useless to the average japanese person. My grandma can't even recognize the english alphabet beyond the letter C and she gets around fine. I honestly can't think of one place in japan outside of specific language related jobs or foreign corporations where speaking english would be beneficial.
Taln
Requiring only English in all but the beginning classes of English language makes sense to me. Its how American universities teach all other languages. First semester you get a mix of English and the foreign language, but after that no English unless someone really cannot understand a concept (like the grammar example mentioned). My third class in French was taught by a Russian who was not fluent in English, but there was no problem following the material in class though we had no common language other than the French we were learning. The only problem we ever had was one joke he tried to tell and no one could translate the punch line. No loss there.
silkee
the fu-k is this one country having to learn another countrys language.
samnang
QUOTE (silkee @ Dec 2 2009, 06:46 AM) *
the fu-k is this one country having to learn another countrys language.


english doesn't belong to any one country anymore. the majority of english speakers in the world aren't even white.
blackosama
QUOTE (ham_let @ Feb 20 2009, 02:13 AM) *
I actually love the fact that most Japanese people can't speak English.

I mean, it's the reason why I will NEVER return to Japan, but I'm fascinated by the fact that they've proven that they don't need English and that English isn't going to dominate Japan's academic circles and such.

I suppose I shouldn't be using the present tense anymore. It's a shame that Japan is becoming an epic fail. A reborn interest in English may save them. No promises, though.


of course it dominates the academic circle. If a japanese professor wants his paper to be read by academics in other nations, he will need to publish his paper in English.
drago
QUOTE (samnang @ Dec 2 2009, 09:33 AM) *
english doesn't belong to any one country anymore. the majority of english speakers in the world aren't even white.

japanese in japan are very arrogant, they have island mentality. They don't exchange half the world's currency money in their airports, 10 percent of their restaurants don't allow foriegners. They look down upon foreigners. They will speak only jaapnese , unless you make them speak english.
Evertonite
QUOTE (drago @ Dec 2 2009, 01:20 PM) *
japanese in japan are very arrogant, they have island mentality. They don't exchange half the world's currency money in their airports, 10 percent of their restaurants don't allow foriegners. They look down upon foreigners. They will speak only jaapnese , unless you make them speak english.


Japan is very good at implementing things once they decide. If this is taken seriously, I am sure Janap will tackle its English problem in less than 10 years.
sinraptor
getting your population to learn languages is a good way to diversify the economy
scorpy
QUOTE (silkee @ Dec 2 2009, 06:46 AM) *
the fu-k is this one country having to learn another countrys language.


I assume you're educated in the US that you should know there is a foregin language requirement in high school and college. The more language you know the less ignorant you're like the rednecks.
MangoMania
QUOTE (ham_let @ Feb 20 2009, 02:13 AM) *
I actually love the fact that most Japanese people can't speak English.

I mean, it's the reason why I will NEVER return to Japan, but I'm fascinated by the fact that they've proven that they don't need English and that English isn't going to dominate Japan's academic circles and such.

I suppose I shouldn't be using the present tense anymore. It's a shame that Japan is becoming an epic fail. A reborn interest in English may save them. No promises, though.


it has nothing to do with that

there is no one in the world who has copyright over english

if i have a $10 note and i use it better than the other guy, it means i'm smarter

nobody has a monopoly over a $10 note, its about how you use it. that's what counts.

so i will continue to use english, nobody can stop a person from using it because no one has a monopoly over the english language
Taln
QUOTE (sinraptor @ Dec 2 2009, 04:56 PM) *
getting your population to learn languages is a good way to diversify the economy


Not only that, students taking foreign languages usually improve their usage of their native language in the process.
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