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VietNamDNCongHoa
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
VIETNAM VETERANS AGAINST JOHN KERRY and
VIETNAMESE AMERICANS FOR TRUTH
www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com

Protest Against John Kerry’s Sabotage of
Vietnam Human Rights Act


WHERE: John Kerry’s Georgetown Home ~3322 O St. NW, Georgetown, Washington DC
DATE: October 2, 2004
TIME: 10 am to 4:45 pm
CONTACT: Ted Sampley 252-527-0442
cell 252-521-2641 or Mike Benge 703-698-8256
In spite of pleas from Vietnamese Americans, human rights activists and veteran’s groups, Senator JOHN
KERRY (D-MA) successfully sabotaged the Vietnam Human Rights Act (Senate Bill HR-2833).
The Bill was designed to sanction communist Vietnam for its calculated sterilization, terrorism and genocide
of the Christian hill tribe Degar peoples living in the Central Highlands region of Vietnam.
The Degar tribe’s people, commonly known to westerners as the MONTAGNARDS, are ethnically unrelated
to the Vietnamese. The Central Highlands region was never a traditional part of Vietnam. The region has been
the home of the Degar tribes for at least a 1,000 years.
As late as 1970 there were an estimated 3,000,000 Montagnards in various tribes living in the Vietnam region.
As a direct result of Vietnam's ongoing campaign of ethnic extermination, the total population of Montagnards
is now BELOW 650,000. This unadulterated genocide has taken nearly two thirds of the Montagnards in
only 34 years, including more than half the male population.
Internal Vietnamese government documents recently obtained by Human Rights Watch support eye witness
testimony from Montagnards detailing long-standing incidents of torture and murder of Montagnard Christians
which resulted in Vietnam’s arbitrary confiscation of Montagnard lands.
In an ongoing terror campaign since 2001, Vietnamese authorities are forcing Montagnard Christians to
stand in front of their entire village and renounce Christianity. The Christians are then forced to pledge
to cease all contacts with outside groups.
To seal their loyalty, the Christians are forced to drink rice wine mixed with goat's blood.
"They asked us to drink goat's blood, but we never saw any goat," one traumatized young villager told Human
Rights Watch. "We wondered where the blood was from. If we didn't drink it, they would beat us.”
The villager suspected that Christians are being slowly poisoned. “We didn't know if it was from a chicken or
a dog or what. I am afraid I will have health problems in the future."
Human Rights Watch described the excessive use of force by security forces in Plei Lao, Gia Lai province in
March 2001, when several hundred troops surrounded and entered the village late at night to break up an allnight
prayer meeting. In a confrontation with villagers, security forces fired into the crowd, killing one villager.
They then burned down the village church.
One villager described what happened: "First the police ordered some Vietnamese civilians to ransack and
destroy the church with axes. They used a cable tied to a vehicle to topple it and the soldiers used their gun butts.
Then they forced the ethnic Jarai to burn it," he said. "Everyone was crying-for the dead and wounded, and for
the church."
Representative Chris Smith, R-NJ, authored the bill, which linked US aid to Vietnam to "substantial progress"
in Vietnam's human rights record. Smith's bill, the Vietnam Human Rights Act, passed the House by an
overwhelming 410-1 vote in 2001. But it never got a hearing or a vote in the Senate, where it was blocked
by the then-chairman of the East Asian and Pacific Affairs subcommittee -- John Kerry.
Kerry, with the backing of Sen. John McCain, explained his opposition to the human rights act by insisting that
the carrot of "engagement" will do more to nurture human rights in Vietnam than the stick of sanctions.
In July 2004, the House again passed Smith's bill, this time by 323 to 45. As in 2001, says Smith, the message
of the bill is that "human rights are central -- they are at the core of our relationship with governments and the
people they purport to represent."
With the Vietnam Human Rights Act stalled again by JOHN KERRY, the communist are free to continue
its ethnic cleansing of the Degar Christians in the Central Highlands region in an attempt to wipe out all
opposition to Vietnam’s theft of Degar land and resources.


aww... poor Senator John "Flopper the Viet Cong Candidate" Kerry. He lost the debate last night too. He was saying " Saddam is not a threat." Then near the end he said "Saddam is a threat... Damn flipper.
Byron
Anyone watched the debates yestaurday? Anyone who supports Bush after he definetly got defeted by Kerry with facts and a plan to run America is beyond me. Hell you people would elect anyone that Viet-Am leaders tell you too, no matter how much they screwed up.

lol you actually believe he lost the debate? yeah ok.

Bush said Saddam attacked America first, but Kerry said it was Osama not Saddam. But then again Bush doesn't know that not all arab people are terrorists, just shows how racist he is to group all muslims as terrorists. lol

And who's the flip flopper?

Bush says he is going after Saddam for having WMD, and what does he do once he takes of Iraq? He sends troops to guard the ministry of oil, while not sending troops to guard nuclear power plants and other areas of strategic value.

Thankfully Kerry reminded the American public on this point. lol So first Bush said it was all about WMD, and he ends up only safeguarding the oil facilities. If anyone is a flip flopper it is him.

lol America had Osama cornered in Tora Bora, and Bush decides to "outsource" the job to Afghan Warlords. But then again he loves to outsource American jobs. lol
VietNamDNCongHoa
^ you got that from Google? Or maybe the debate version in Canada was sensored?
Byron
QUOTE (VietNamDNCongHoa @ Oct 1 2004, 08:58 AM)
^ you got that from Google? Or maybe the debate version in Canada was sensored?
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Read the title of these news articles.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...r/debate_rdp_29

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Post-Debate Polls Favor Kerry


Yes Kerry lost the debate even though according to the gallup poll, 53% of Americans thought he won, while while 37% for Kerry and the rest thought it was a tie.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/...x.ap/index.html

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World seems to think Kerry won


Kerry was all calm and explained his points. While Bush was stuttering words(He can't speak English properly, and looked very nervous and angry after Kerry was handing his @$$. LOL)
User1
QUOTE (Byron @ Oct 1 2004, 08:50 AM)
Anyone watched the debates yestaurday?  Anyone who supports Bush after he definetly got defeted by Kerry with facts and a plan to run America is beyond me.  Hell you people would elect anyone that Viet-Am leaders tell you too, no matter how much they screwed up.

lol you actually believe he lost the debate?  yeah ok.

Bush said Saddam attacked America first, but Kerry said it was Osama not Saddam.  But then again Bush doesn't know that not all arab people are terrorists, just shows how racist he is to group all muslims as terrorists.  lol

And who's the flip flopper?

Bush says he is going after Saddam for having WMD, and what does he do once he takes of Iraq?  He sends troops to guard the ministry of oil, while not sending troops to guard nuclear power plants and other areas of strategic value.

Thankfully Kerry reminded the American public on this point.  lol So first Bush said it was all about WMD, and he ends up only safeguarding the oil facilities.  If anyone is a flip flopper it is him.

lol America had Osama cornered in Tora Bora, and Bush decides to "outsource" the job to Afghan Warlords.  But then again he loves to outsource American jobs.  lol
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You're 100% right on this dude. rockon.gif
PervertBurger
yumm tora bora sounds like a food
VietNamDNCongHoa
QUOTE (Byron @ Oct 1 2004, 09:01 AM)
QUOTE (VietNamDNCongHoa @ Oct 1 2004, 08:58 AM)
^ you got that from Google? Or maybe the debate version in Canada was sensored?
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Read the title of these news articles.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...r/debate_rdp_29

QUOTE
Post-Debate Polls Favor Kerry


Yes Kerry lost the debate even though according to the gallup poll, 53% of Americans thought he won, while while 37% for Kerry and the rest thought it was a tie.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/...x.ap/index.html

QUOTE
World seems to think Kerry won


Kerry was all calm and explained his points. While Bush was stuttering words(He can't speak English properly, and looked very nervous and angry after Kerry was handing his @$$. LOL)
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Do you know that liberal news media would side with Kerry?

There are things that Canadians like you don't understand. We know who has the substances and we know who's a bullsh!tter. Then does it matter what standing on those polls? Average Americans will elect candidate with substances, not a bullsh!tter.
Byron
QUOTE (VietNamDNCongHoa @ Oct 1 2004, 04:35 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Oct 1 2004, 09:01 AM)
QUOTE (VietNamDNCongHoa @ Oct 1 2004, 08:58 AM)
^ you got that from Google? Or maybe the debate version in Canada was sensored?
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Read the title of these news articles.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...r/debate_rdp_29

QUOTE
Post-Debate Polls Favor Kerry


Yes Kerry lost the debate even though according to the gallup poll, 53% of Americans thought he won, while while 37% for Kerry and the rest thought it was a tie.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/...x.ap/index.html

QUOTE
World seems to think Kerry won


Kerry was all calm and explained his points. While Bush was stuttering words(He can't speak English properly, and looked very nervous and angry after Kerry was handing his @$$. LOL)
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Do you know that liberal news media would side with Kerry?

There are things that Canadians like you don't understand. We know who has the substances and we know who's a bullsh!tter. Then does it matter what standing on those polls? Average Americans will elect candidate with substances, not a bullsh!tter.
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Lol, ok if you want your job outsourced then go ahead vote for Bush.

If you like to invade countries based on lies by a president, and instead of guarding nuclear facilities where WMD was supposed to be found, they guard the oil facilities instead then go vote for Bush.

If you like to ignore genocide in Sudan while focusing on oil to send troops there, then go vote for Bush.

If you like the fact that the economy fell to record lows since the depression since Bush was elected President, then go ahead vote for Bush.

Usually, if I had an employee who had a crap record, I would replace him with someone fresh pronto.

If your life was better with Bush was president then when Bill Clinton was President, then go ahead vote for Bush.
Nero874
I don't understand why Kerry blocked the Vietnam Human Rights Act, but even then, I would either vote for Kerry or an independent. Definitely not Bush.
supernovasp
QUOTE (Nero874 @ Oct 1 2004, 07:31 PM)
I don't understand why Kerry blocked the Vietnam Human Rights Act, but even then, I would either vote for Kerry or an independent.  Definitely not Bush.
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Bush sucks
Byron
Why any asian would vote for Bush is beyond me. He represents more of the conservative, old fashion, type of white people. Not to mention his record sucks.

I think Kerry is uses critical judgement much better than bush.
VietNamDNCongHoa
QUOTE (Byron @ Oct 1 2004, 08:56 PM)
Why any asian would vote for Bush is beyond me.  He represents more of the conservative, old fashion, type of white people.  Not to mention his record sucks.

I think Kerry is uses critical judgement much better than bush.
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You have them all wrong byron.


Everyone knows Kerry is a bull$hiter. He proposes what have already been working on by Pres. Bush.

Pres. Bush still has better record during his 4 years term than John Kerry reocrds for 20 years in Senate. He's the laziest Senator if you have to ask Bob Dole.

You are bias. I don't know about Canada but most Vietnamese in America are conservative. We believe in family values. We either use condoms or don't screw around therefore most of us are not too pro-choice. We don't believe in killing fetus as unwanted or doing research. We don't think gay marriage is good for a family but we are not stopping them from living together. Who cares? Most of us believe in working hard to gain wealth but begging for wealfare money. We like our individual freedom. President Bush has shares our common views.

Kerry is a communist. He'll do crazy things...

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Lol, ok if you want your job outsourced then go ahead vote for Bush.


Pres. Bush is not the one who starts outsourcing. However, he's not proposing any laws to stop it. The reason is simple. Outsourcing is good for both America and world economies. It would benefit consumers and corporations. It shares wealth to people in third world countries like China, Vietnam, Malaysia, etc.

Americans outsourcing has greatly impact world economy. It has lifted more people around the world out of poverty. I remember visiting Shenzhen, China with my family years ago to adopt my sister. It was so bad. We came back last year and were so delight to see shenzhen transformed to a beautiful big city. Thanks to the Special Economic Zone filled with American factories.

Since I took over my dad business, I have virtually eliminated the payroll function in our Finance Department. We outsource payroll to a company based in India. People who work for payroll are promoted to do other works in Sales, Warehousing and Shipping. We save hundred of thousands dollar a year in salaries. It works just fine and there are no jobs lost.

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If you like to invade countries based on lies by a president, and instead of guarding nuclear facilities where WMD was supposed to be found, they guard the oil facilities instead then go vote for Bush.


Our President is not a liar. He read same intelligent report as Kerry. If Kerry was US President, he would do the same thing. We know the fact that Kerry had lied to US Congress year ago about Vietnam war.

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If you like to ignore genocide in Sudan while focusing on oil to send troops there, then go vote for Bush.


Any idiot knows US Troops are not in Iraq for oil. Why would we spent 200 billions to occupy a country? With that money we could buy Saddam and all his oil. You do the math. We are there to protect America.

We are not ignoring Sudan. We were there before anyone else. We fed them. Secrectary of States Collin Power was there. Where are French and Germany? Why don't you criticize them for not being there to help? Kerry is a big bull$hitter when he mention this.

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If you like the fact that the economy fell to record lows since the depression since Bush was elected President, then go ahead vote for Bush.


Our economy is doing fine. The interest rate is low. Housing is affordable. Our unemployment rate is low. I don't see anything here is near depression. People in America enjoy good time everywhere. Thanks to President Bush.

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Usually, if I had an employee who had a crap record, I would replace him with someone fresh pronto.


President Bush does a great job. He's one of bravest US Presidents. He has balls. I agree with him that we aren't depended on any foreign leaders to make our decision to protect ourselves. Besides fighting dirty, John Kerry have not demontrated enough to me the caliber of a world leader.

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If your life was better with Bush was president then when Bill Clinton was President, then go ahead vote for Bush.


Clinton era was different. It's in the past. The world changes. We are looking forward to our future. We'll give our President Bush more changes to finish his job.
Byron
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Everyone knows Kerry is a bull$hiter.  He proposes what have already been working on by Pres. Bush.


I know Republicians are saying Kerry is stealing their ideas, but if you listened to the debates, they both had very differetn views with what they plan to do with the U.S, so your claim is invalid, after hearing the debates.


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Pres. Bush still has better record during his 4 years term than John Kerry reocrds for 20 years in Senate. He's the laziest Senator if you have to ask Bob Dole.


Please share with me some unbias articles detailing Kerry's record and how he's lazy, as you claim?


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Pres. Bush is not the one who starts outsourcing. However, he's not proposing any laws to stop it. The reason is simple. Outsourcing is good for both America and world economies. It would benefit consumers and corporations. It shares wealth to people in third world countries like China, Vietnam, Malaysia, etc.

Americans outsourcing has greatly impact world economy. It has lifted more people around the world out of poverty.


http://www.tampabaylive.com/stories/2004/03/040305dems.shtml

Kerry said he would stop the flow of outsourcing and bring back Americn jobs.

Jobs were the focus of a Labor Department report issued Friday that said the economy added just 21,000 positions in February. It also downgraded job gains for January from 112,000 to 97,000. Democrats consistently note that more than 2.2 million payroll jobs have been lost during the Bush administration, the worst job-creation record of any president since Herbert Hoover.

Yes the jobs in America are going up. Only a whopping 21,000, while during the Bush adminstration, 2.2 million jobs have been lost and is the worst job creation record of any president since Herbert Hoover.

Yes Bush is doing a great job. icon_rolleyes.gif

Yeah and Hoover was president during the Great Depression. You know you gotta suck when your record for creating jobs or job losses is the same as a president during one of the worse times in American economic history.


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Kerry is a communist. He'll do crazy things...


Yes he is a communist. icon_rolleyes.gif Yes meeting with Vietnamese communist leaders makes him a communist. So is Bush then for meeting with Chinese communist leaders as well.

Yes if you talk to a communist then you must also be a communist as well. icon_rolleyes.gif

And if your attacking Kerry for critizing U.S troops for committing atrocities in Vietnam, atrocities have already been acknowledge to happen in the Vietnam War.

Sad that Viet-Ams like you are willing to cover up the U.S after they raped our Vietnamese sisters who are little girls and killed many of our people just for fun, and John Kerry decides to expose them, but he get labelled as a communist just because he wanted to do the right thing in exposing them.

Hey at least I admit the Vietcong did atrocities and aren't trying to cover them up, why can't you Viet-Ams do the same thing about your South Vietnamese troops and American troops as well?

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It works just fine and there are no jobs lost.


Except for 2.2 million American jobs with very little gain in jobs. At this rate the Bush administratin won't create a new job after the 2.2 million are regained for at least the next 10 years according to Kerry.


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Our President is not a liar. He read same intelligent report as Kerry. If Kerry was US President, he would do the same thing. We know the fact that Kerry had lied to US Congress year ago about Vietnam war.


Yes Kerry lied to the US Congress about U.S atrocities in Vietnam. Again Viet-Ams like you have destroyed the honor of those innocents who were killed or raped, and you pretend as if it didn't happen and go after the man who was trying to expose the U.S.

Yeah if Bush really believed their were WMD, then why did he send troops to guard the oil facilities rather than the nuclear power plants right when Baghdad fell?

QUOTE
President Bush does a great job. He's one of bravest US President. He has balls. I agree with him that we aren't depend on any foreign leaders to protect ourselves. Besides fighting dirty, John Kerry have not demontrated enough to me the caliber of a world leader.


Yes Bush has balls alright. He had balls to avoid fighting in the Vietnam War, and hid behind his rich daddy so he wouldn't have to fight there. Kerry actually SERVED in the Vietnam war and earned a purple heart and has a wounded leg to prove it. Now who has balls?

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Since I took over my dad business...


No wonder your a Bush supporter, your not even a common worker, you own a business, which is why you support Bush. Kerry's policies target the middle class worker.

So stop bull$hitting that you support Bush because of his "humanitarian policies" it's so obvious you are in it for the money.


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We are not ignoring Sudan. We were there before anyone else. We fed them. Secrectary of States Collin Power was there. Where are French and Germany? Why don't you criticize them for not being there to help? Kerry is a big bull$hitter when he mention this.


Sorry but food isn't enough to convince arab men who are doing the killing to go away. Kerry proposes to actually do more to get rid of the genocide though which he detailed in the debates while Bush couldn't.


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Clinton era was different. It's in the past. The world changes. We are looking forward to our future. We'll give our President Bush more changes to finish his job.


Yeah and after he's finished his job, so will millions of Americans who will be "finished" their jobs as well. icon_smile.gif
Johannjs
I think this:

If anybody should want the USA to be down, he/she would and must vote for Bush.

They are virtually broke now with their deficit. Greenspan is also dying. The dollar is again plunging. Only 4 more years, but that will boost democracy (after the nightmare - could possibly be a real blown-up!).

I support voting for George.




EDIT: In fact I said this. Yet I'm not so sure I want it to happen...? Too many people will live a horrible time, if anything is to happen.
hibiki
don't know why you guys are even argueing with this guy, he seems pretty disillusioned from the truth and reality, also pretty adament on his views.
VietNamDNCongHoa
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I know Republicians are saying Kerry is stealing their ideas, but if you listened to the debates, they both had very differetn views with what they plan to do with the U.S, so your claim is invalid, after hearing the debates.


No Republican has ever said Kerry steal their ideas. Kerry said he has plans. Well, we know that his plans have not been proven and might or might not work.

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Please share with me some unbias articles detailing Kerry's record and how he's lazy, as you claim?


According to ACU, Kerry has cast 36% of his vote in 2003. It’s good for the conservative because liberal bills would not have passed.

American Conservative Union

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Kerry said he would stop the flow of outsourcing and bring back Americn jobs.


No, he isn’t. He would only say that to get votes. Byron, ABC is a bias news media. We call Peter Jenning “Palestinian Pete” in the US. As soon as the debate was over, ABC had 6 people interviewed and all of them changed their vote to Kerry. What a baloney news organization!

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Jobs were the focus of a Labor Department report issued Friday that said the economy added just 21,000 positions in February. It also downgraded job gains for January from 112,000 to 97,000. Democrats consistently note that more than 2.2 million payroll jobs have been lost during the Bush administration, the worst job-creation record of any president since Herbert Hoover.

Yes the jobs in America are going up. Only a whopping 21,000, while during the Bush adminstration, 2.2 million jobs have been lost and is the worst job creation record of any president since Herbert Hoover.

Yes Bush is doing a great job. 


>>According to US Dept Of Labor:

Employment Situation Summary
Technical information:
Household data: (202) 691-6378 USDL 04-1728 http://www.bls.gov/cps/
Establishment data: 691-6555 Transmission of material in this release
http://www.bls.gov/ces/ is embargoed until 8:30 A.M. (EDT),
Media contact: 691-5902 Friday, September 3, 2004.


THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION: AUGUST 2004

Nonfarm payroll employment rose by 144,000 in August, and the unemployment
rate was little changed at 5.4 percent,
the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the
U.S. Department of Labor reported today. Over the month, job growth occurred
in several service-providing industries.

Unemployment (Household Survey Data)

Both the number of unemployed persons, 8.0 million, and the unemployment
rate, 5.4 percent, were little changed from July to August. The jobless rate
is down from its recent high of 6.3 percent in June 2003; most of this decline
occurred in the second half of last year. In August, the unemployment rates
for the major worker groups--adult men (5.0 percent), adult women (4.7 percent),
teenagers (17.0 percent), whites (4.7 percent), blacks (10.4 percent), and
Hispanics or Latinos (6.9 percent)--showed little change over the month.

The unemployment rate for Asians was 3.6 percent in August, not seasonally adjusted. (See tables A-1, A-2, and A-3.)

Hey, that's really good.

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Yeah and Hoover was president during the Great Depression. You know you gotta suck when your record for creating jobs or job losses is the same as a president during one of the worse times in American economic history.


We are not under any depression whatsoever. It's the Democrat 's pessimistic propaganda.. They want to scare Americans . wow... we are so scare...

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Yes he is a communist.  Yes meeting with Vietnamese communist leaders makes him a communist. So is Bush then for meeting with Chinese communist leaders as well.
Yes if you talk to a communist then you must also be a communist as well. 


It’s different. President Bush is a US President. It’s his job to meet with world leaders regardless they are communists or not.

According to declassified FBI file, Kerry went to Paris and met secretly with North Vietnamese during the war. He’d violated US laws.

Besides, everyone knows he’s a communist. Go to Ho Chi Minh City. He’s the one who contributed to Vietnamese Communist Party. Without him, they would not have won the war.

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And if your attacking Kerry for critizing U.S troops for committing atrocities in Vietnam, atrocities have already been acknowledge to happen in the Vietnam War.

Sad that Viet-Ams like you are willing to cover up the U.S after they raped our Vietnamese sisters who are little girls and killed many of our people just for fun, and John Kerry decides to expose them, but he get labelled as a communist just because he wanted to do the right thing in exposing them.

Hey at least I admit the Vietcong did atrocities and aren't trying to cover them up, why can't you Viet-Ams do the same thing about your South Vietnamese troops and American troops as well?


It’s the truth that Vietcong had committed atrocities against Vietnamese. Kerry and his VVAW group lied to US Congress and deceived American public about atrocities. That’s the different.

I agreed that both sides had committed crimes against humanity. Kerry used it for his political advantage. He’s guilty as hell when he said “I use a 50 caliber machine gun to mow them down, and I participated in burning villages…” before US Congress.

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Except for 2.2 million American jobs with very little gain in jobs. At this rate the Bush administratin won't create a new job after the 2.2 million are regained for at least the next 10 years according to Kerry.


Except his party, no one else would listen to Kerry. We know he lies again. Kerry pulls this one out of his @ss to get sympathy from American workers and to gain votes. He plays psychological warfare and creates fear.

>>according to Washington Post.
The gist of a new layoff study by the Labor Department is that very few U.S. job losses can be blamed on "offshoring" -- a finding that is already being slammed by critics who say the government dramatically undercounted the number of jobs heading overseas to cheaper labor markets.

USLD Report

>>for this year

Here's what the Labor Dept. found, as detailed in The Wall Street Journal's write-up: "Only 4,633 jobs were moved overseas in the first three months of this year. The number represents less than 2% of the total 239,361 layoffs for the quarter, the report said. The industrial Midwest and South bore the brunt of the jobs lost overseas, particularly in manufacturing, the survey found. The small number of jobs lost through layoffs likely will be used to bolster the argument that the overall loss of U.S. jobs to foreign countries isn't a threat to the economy. That argument has gained strength with the addition of almost one million new U.S. jobs since the first of the year."

>>Time magazine had quote”Ex-Labor Secretary Robert Reich (Clinton's buddy)as saying, "Offshoring is not at the heart of the matter. I don't think it is a major part of the job picture."

The Times continued: "Instead, many experts say, the job market is driven more by rapid productivity growth, allowing companies to accomplish more work with fewer workers; the introduction of new technologies, which destroy many jobs while creating many others; and the overall level of demand in the domestic economy. Indeed, while nearly two million jobs were lost from March 2001 through August 2003, the recent recovery of the economy has added 1.4 million jobs since then. And despite the job losses the Labor Department found during the first quarter, over all the economy added an estimated 595,000 jobs during that period."

>>according to CNN (I hate thisfricken Jane Fonda hubby news media)
Unemployment rate drops
Job growth rebounded in August as nation's unemployment rate dipped to 5.4 percent.
September 3, 2004: 2:43 PM EDT

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Job growth rebounded in the United States last month and the unemployment rate dropped unexpectedly, the government reported Friday, in one of the last big employment reports before the November election.

The Labor Department said the economy created 144,000 jobs in August, the strongest reading since May and up from a revised 73,000 jobs in July. Economists surveyed by Briefing.com had forecast 150,000 new jobs.

The unemployment rate dipped to 5.4 from 5.5 percent in July, mainly due to a decline in the labor force, bringing the rate to its lowest since September 2001.

The job report, closely watched each month, is especially important to President Bush and Democratic challenger John Kerry since it comes just two months before the Nov. 2 election. There is only one more job report due before election day, the September report due Oct. 8, the morning of the second presidential debate.

The report could give a lift to the Bush campaign, coming just hours after the Republicans renominated him. The president and his advisers like to point to the nearly 1.7 million jobs created since August 2003.

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH OUR ECONOMY? Nothing...

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Yes Kerry lied to the US Congress about U.S atrocities in Vietnam. Again Viet-Ams like you have destroyed the honor of those innocents who were killed or raped, and you pretend as if it didn't happen and go after the man who was trying to expose the U.S.
Yeah if Bush really believed their were WMD, then why did he send troops to guard the oil facilities rather than the nuclear power plants right when Baghdad fell?


You don’t understand this. Kerry used this excuse to gain votes. It’s more likely that insurgents would destroy oil facilities than nuclear power plant. Oil is important resource for the Iraqi reconstruction. No one would dare to go near nuclear power plant without proper radiation protective gears. Terrorists would burn their @sses to death before they get near it. It’s stupid.

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Yes Bush has balls alright. He had balls to avoid fighting in the Vietnam War, and hid behind his rich daddy so he wouldn't have to fight there. Kerry actually SERVED in the Vietnam war and earned a purple heart and has a wounded leg to prove it. Now who has balls?


It’s no truth to this accusation. President Bush had served the National Guard in honor. Kerry faked injuries and wrote himself nice notes to get those medals.
VietNamDNCongHoa
^....continue

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No wonder your a Bush supporter, your not even a common worker, you own a business, which is why you support Bush. Kerry's policies target the middle class worker.

So stop bull$hitting that you support Bush because of his "humanitarian policies" it's so obvious you are in it for the money.


Because of my income, I am considered a middle class worker. Hey, I work my a$$ off. I don’t play around to earn money. That’s for sure. Of course we are in it for the money. You don’t start a business to lose money. The wealth of a company is the well being of its employees. We have risked a lot to create business and provide jobs for others. The profit is our reward

I know you're against big corporation but let me tell you this. Countries like China and Vietnam need big corporations. Many leaders of small communities in Far East have invited us to invest in populate areas. Why? They want people to have jobs and earn decent living. Not all Communists are heartless. Some are good people and have always care about their people. In order to raise people living standard, they have to invite western corporations to come and invest in their people.

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Sorry but food isn't enough to convince arab men who are doing the killing to go away. Kerry proposes to actually do more to get rid of the genocide though which he detailed in the debates while Bush couldn't.


Kerry was bullsh!tting. He would not have it done any better. President Bush has asked Africa and Arab countries to help stop Sudan genocide. I like President Bush plan better.

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Yeah and after he's finished his job, so will millions of Americans who will be "finished" their jobs as well. 


You're assuming too much.

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If anybody should want the USA to be down, he/she would and must vote for Bush.
They are virtually broke now with their deficit. Greenspan is also dying. The dollar is again plunging. Only 4 more years, but that will boost democracy (after the nightmare - could possibly be a real blown-up!).


Not quite, we 're ok. Nothing 's wrong with our dollar. We're not worrying about our deficit too much because if our economy expands, the deficit would shrink. We are worry about our 7 triliions national debt. But I am sure President Bush has good plan.

You can blame on US President for deficit or spending. In reality, US Congress are people who controlling it. They should be blamed for the runaway spending train...

But keep up your high hope Si Fu. That day will never come. I think maybe we’re just too invincible for now.

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I support voting for George W. Bush

At least you’ve got this one right. Bravo my dear Si Fu.

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EDIT: In fact I said this. Yet I'm not so sure I want it to happen...? Too many people will live a horrible time, if anything is to happen.


You’re kidding me again Despite what’s going on, we're living good life. We pack our nightclubs every weekend. We’ll go to churches and after that we fill our sport stadiums every Sunday afternoon. We have such great time… President Bush will be a US President. And we’ll just let you miserable people have such pessimistic views about us.

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don't know why you guys are even arguing with this guy, he seems pretty disillusioned from the truth and reality, also pretty adamant on his views.

Who are? Can you define truth anh reality?

I need a good linguist to "dis-adamant me." So far my Si Fu has failed.
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