http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_Vietnam

According to Chang Keun Lee of the Korean Chamber of Commerce and Industry in Vietnam, Koreans formed the country's second-largest group of expatriates, with only the Taiwan expatriate community being larger; he estimated that half lived in Ho Chi Minh City.[14] Statistics from South Korea's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade show that their population has grown by roughly thirty times in just a decade. Their population more than trebled from 1,788 in 1997 to 6,226 in 2003, then jumped to more than eight times that size—53,800—by just four years later. [1][2] The country's first school for South Korean nationals, the weekend Hanoi Hangul School, was founded on 1 March 1996, enrolling 122 students at the kindergarten through middle school levels); two Korean day schools were also later established, one in Ho Chi Minh City (founded 4 August 1998, enrolling 745 students at the kindergarten through high school levels), and a smaller one in Hanoi (founded 13 July 2006, with 63 elementary-level students).[15][16][17]

Foreigners who lived and have dual citizen :Korean community in Vietnam = 90K in vietnam now. Taiwanese = 45 thousands. japanese 7 thousands. Philippine 3k Malaysian 2K thousands. Arabic and Middle east from 2 thousand to 6 thousand. Latino south american from 2k.
Total white = 9 thousands

Stop makin up numbers, at least give us your online sources

Don't worry about Taiwanese. They will be good Viet citizens. Many of them see themselves as more Yue descended than Han Chinese descended.

remember most taiwanese are the decendents of hakka/hokkien

I forget to explain that people who are regular have multiple visa entry into Vietnam for business and live there. Sorry about that.
Socal give the source 53K from Korean is couple years ago. Not now.

I think its hard to differ the Taiwanese from Vietnamese on streets.

There are also over 600,000 Lao ppl in Vietnam but I guess the Kids attend local schools and they are more integrated into Vietnamese society. I think the following statistic of a school is a good representative. Taiwanese seem to attend local shools as well.

I have the demographic of an int'l school in HN:

Australia 68
Netherlands 46
New Zealand 8
Nigeria 3
Canada 21
China 5
Philippines 5
Denmark 27
Finland 4
France 14
Singapore 15
Germany 28
South Africa 5
India 24
Sweden 27
Indonesia 5
Ireland 10
Taiwan 9
Thailand 9
Japan 31
Korea 113
UK 53
USA 105

^Maybe it is because a lot of the Taiwanese kids are already mixed (ie mother is Vietnamese)? Taiwanese embrace their Yue heritage, while Cantonese try everything possible to get away from it. Vietnamese should have no problems with Taiwanese.

I have to admit , Taiwan dialect sounds a little bit viet. Even my friend told me the same thing.

Links below...

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=P1XGo4TRRGg

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=SQumqGDvxQU

Alot of taiwanese speak taiwan dialect proudly. My parents speak it with each other , but when they talk to chinese people of course they speak mandarin.

I don't know if we are related to vietnamese , but it's possible.

I know han chinese encorperatese alot of other ethnicity groups as han chinese like hakkas and hoklos , so who knows?

you and your friends must be kidding me, it sounds not even one bit like Vietnamese

I dunno , to me it does sound a bit similar (some words sounds) although its a totally diff language , I can tell the difference easily. My friend is not viet or taiwanese , so it was from a nonspeakers perspective.

^Don't worry man. The only Chinese dialect these Viets would claim to sound like theirs is the Cantonese (even though there is no relation). It fits into their nationalist/political agenda.

It's for politics.
U should know both hokkien/hakka are always proud of their pure blood and look down upon the aborigins

^I think it is because also some of the 1949 mainland immigrants mistreated the native Taiwanese and made them speak Mandarin instead of the native Hokkien/Hakka dialects. It is like a reaction against them.

And, the Hokkien/Hakka are not as ethnocentric as you think. In Southeast Asia, the Hokkien tend to intermarry with natives faster than the Cantonese. Also, many Hakka in Guangdong had intermarried with the aboriginal people in the Hills (ie She). In Guangxi, many have mixed with Zhuang too.

kick them ch1nks out

The Cantonese and Taiwanese both still live in their ancestral lands. The native Cantonese surely always welcome the half-bred Han-Cantonese. The Cantonese and Taiwanese should abandon the clumsy Han characters to adop the western alphabets.

We are han chinese people though arent we? I like mandarin more than taiwanese.

Native Cantonese and Taiwanese, like many other ethnics in China, are actually not Han. They don't speak Mandarin and are forced to use Chinese pictograms. They have their own languages but are sinicized. If you speak mandarin, there is a good chance that you are Han, but if you speak native languages like Cantonese or Taiwanese, you are more likely not Han. Mixed ones probably prefer to be Han, for some reason.

Most taiwanese speak both mandarin and taiwanese though. I guess Han is more of a cultural identity then according to some people.

pure guy
ask any linguist, they will tell u both cantonese/hokkien are tribes under sinic.

True. Taiwanese is spoken natively, but Mandarin is learned. Let the northern Chinese (Han) sort out who is and is not Han. The natives can decide who they are themselves.

The sun is under sinic.

haha
interesting.
Do u have any knowledge about linguistics? poor gangnong

In fact, the Hakka donot like to marriage with the aboriginal people. And another thing is a lot of Hakka was divide into Zhuang/She after 1949

I know the people living on the sun speak mandarin.

o not mandarin people but stupid guy like u.
U have forgot ur ancestor..

Cantonese is actually a little bit closer to Tang Dynasty speech compared to Mandarin. How can you say Cantonese is more closer to Viet, when the fact is that it is even more 'Han' in speech than Mandarin itself?

Taiwan Minnan is more close to han as well right?

I dont think so, he remembers his ancestor very well, he is just a lil jungle thing trying to boosting his self-esteem by blending the definition of them and other race.

As for Han, actually according to the study of DNA, han is a very significant concept of race, demonstrates dominating gene markers, and much more so compared to the average SEA or other races.

For instance, according to some japanese study, in terms of mtDNA Han demonstrates 60% Han-unqiue gene markers, compared to 40% for Koreans or less than 5% for japanese.

Based on Y-DNA studies, Han also show much narrower Varation compared to other races included in the study such as Qiang/Tibetan/Miao/Khmer/Vietnamese

Truth hurts .

As for vietnamese, numerous Gene studies comformed that Vietnamese gene get very high variations, demonstrates two distinctive classes of evolution routes, one is Thai, the other is Chinese.

Which basically those studies confirms the obvious: Before Chinese invasion, basically the original vietnamese are just a bunch of Thai/khmers etc, and due to 1100 years' Chinese rule, we did leave some gene marker on them as well, which, unfunnately, as a side effect, give those wankers some room to wank

go vietnam!