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henry00
Chinese nearly dominated Vietnam like Singapore and Hong Kong. Their movies, music ... became really popular and more than 3 millions Chinese lived in Vietnam, at that time South Vietnam only has 15-17 millions Vietnamese. Cholon became huge business hub.
They controlled 60% business with their money or gold that they brought from mainland.
Tav6
Can you just stop talking about chinese ???? WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THEM .... DAMN WE HAVE SOCAL ALREADY .... WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER ONE Talktohand.gif
iRivers
Yea, STFU! tongue.gif
Hitoro
its sad but very true! From what i've heard the chinese were "bẩn thỉu" (not gonna translate) to most south vietnamese citizens. my grandparents lived beside them and said that in those "prosperous years 1960-1975" a majority of saigonese ppl spoke and understood two main languages, vietnamese and cantonese. that is how much influence those chinese ppl had on the vietnamese. if the war had not happened, south vietnam would be like thailand where businesses is dominated by chinese even demographically.
Vietnamese1300
QUOTE(henry00 @ Dec 21 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]4055908[/snapback]
Chinese nearly dominated Vietnam like Singapore and Hong Kong. Their movies, music ... became really popular and more than 3 millions Chinese lived in Vietnam, at that time South Vietnam only has 15-17 millions Vietnamese. Cholon became huge business hub.
They controlled 60% business with their money or gold that they brought from mainland.

That's 1975 now is 2008 so STFU
xDestinx
what can we say....this forum is dominated by Chinese nationalist and they are taking over Vietnamese section.
M9Empir3
Again, thats just another living proof to show that you aint belong to Chinese race, so congrats! kiss.gif
Hafiz
QUOTE(henry00 @ Dec 21 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]4055908[/snapback]
Chinese nearly dominated Vietnam like Singapore and Hong Kong. Their movies, music ... became really popular and more than 3 millions Chinese lived in Vietnam, at that time South Vietnam only has 15-17 millions Vietnamese. Cholon became huge business hub.
They controlled 60% business with their money or gold that they brought from mainland.


henry00 is the most active Vietnamese Ultra Nationalist.
altractiveguy
QUOTE(henry00 @ Dec 21 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]4055908[/snapback]
Chinese nearly dominated Vietnam like Singapore and Hong Kong. Their movies, music ... became really popular and more than 3 millions Chinese lived in Vietnam, at that time South Vietnam only has 15-17 millions Vietnamese. Cholon became huge business hub.
They controlled 60% business with their money or gold that they brought from mainland.


Please stop posting stupid topics. You know nothing about Vietnam's history. Don't make us embarassed by your stupidity. According to a 1972's census, there were about 2.2 million China's people out of a 19 million population living in South Vietnam. Some of that 2.2 millions were recent immigrannts and investors from Hong Kong and Taiwan. A large percentage of the 2.2 million China's people had at least some Viet blood, btw.

In Viet culture, back in the days (before 1954), we thought lowly of business people. Viet men would prefer to study for exams to become mandarins/government officials to rule the people. On the other hand, China's people were into business and a lot had connections with their people overseas like from Taiwan, Malaysia, Thailand etc,. These overseas people helped them expand their business and get rich in Vietnam. Not to mention that many China's people were already super rich when they came to Vietnam, like the Ming loyalists (many were relatives of Ming dynasty's mandarins) who fled to Vietnam with tons of gold, precious stones, jewelry, etc., and the bourgeoisie who fled to Vietnam when Comunists gained power in China.

But the one that really controlled most of the economy was the government. It owned: railroads, airports, TV and radio stations, seaports, hospitals, land, construction, electricity corp, biggest banks,etc... What China's people controlled the most were light industries like cinema theaters, wholesale of household products, food trading, Chinese medicine, average sized banks, etc,.


QUOTE(henry00 @ Dec 21 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]4055908[/snapback]
Their movies, music ... became really popular


People of South Vietnam were not blind ultra nationalists. Communist Chinese and non-communist Chinese are not the same to them. Bruce Lee movies, Shaw Brothers' movies, Golden Harvest's movies etc., were popular in South Vietnam before 1975.
henry00
QUOTE(M9Empir3 @ Dec 22 2008, 05:02 AM) [snapback]4056330[/snapback]
Again, thats just another living proof to show that you aint belong to Chinese race, so congrats! kiss.gif


We surely are not Chinese. Base on Vietnam history, Vietnamese were created by Lord of dragon and fairy princess. We are proud about that laugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif biggthumpup.gif .
xigongcac
QUOTE(henry00 @ Dec 23 2008, 01:01 AM) [snapback]4056486[/snapback]
We surely are not Chinese. Base on Vietnam history, Vietnamese were created by Lord of dragon and fairy princess. We are proud about that laugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif biggthumpup.gif .


Get back to your job at the wonton noodle shop in cholon brah laugh.gif
M9Empir3
QUOTE(henry00 @ Dec 22 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]4056486[/snapback]
We surely are not Chinese. Base on Vietnam history, Vietnamese were created by Lord of dragon and fairy princess. We are proud about that laugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif biggthumpup.gif .


Glad to see you have finally grown up a little bit, congrats kiss.gif
henry00
QUOTE(M9Empir3 @ Dec 22 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]4056538[/snapback]
Glad to see you have finally grown up a little bit, congrats kiss.gif


Thank! Chinese is inferior races and Vietnamese is master race.
asean.asia
Get rid of the ethnic minorities and Vietnam will have PURE (or more pure) master race. I'm starting to love henry the 00. heart.gif

QUOTE(henry00 @ Dec 22 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]4056622[/snapback]
Thank! Chinese is inferior races and Vietnamese is master race.

papabearvn
QUOTE(altractiveguy @ Dec 22 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]4056405[/snapback]
Please stop posting stupid topics. You know nothing about Vietnam's history. Don't make us embarassed by your stupidity. According to a 1972's census, there were about 2.2 million China's people out of a 19 million population living in South Vietnam. Some of that 2.2 millions were recent immigrannts and investors from Hong Kong and Taiwan. A large percentage of the 2.2 million China's people had at least some Viet blood, btw.

In Viet culture, back in the days (before 1954), we thought lowly of business people. Viet men would prefer to study for exams to become mandarins/government officials to rule the people. On the other hand, China's people were into business and a lot had connections with their people overseas like from Taiwan, Malaysia, Thailand etc,. These overseas people helped them expand their business and get rich in Vietnam. Not to mention that many China's people were already super rich when they came to Vietnam, like the Ming loyalists (many were relatives of Ming dynasty's mandarins) who fled to Vietnam with tons of gold, precious stones, jewelry, etc., and the bourgeoisie who fled to Vietnam when Comunists gained power in China.

But the one that really controlled most of the economy was the government. It owned: railroads, airports, TV and radio stations, seaports, hospitals, land, construction, electricity corp, biggest banks,etc... What China's people controlled the most were light industries like cinema theaters, wholesale of household products, food trading, Chinese medicine, average sized banks, etc,.


People of South Vietnam were not blind ultra nationalists. Communist Chinese and non-communist Chinese are not the same to them. Bruce Lee movies, Shaw Brothers' movies, Golden Harvest's movies etc., were popular in South Vietnam before 1975.


Majority of Cantonese can be categorized like swing states in the U.S. It's not their always choices to do business but that's how environment shapes them. Their mentality is to serve (doesn't mean to want to be ruled) which is different from Vietnamese since most Viets want to be their own bosses thus through a long history of Cantonese they only produce one significant leader even though the guy, Sun Yat Sen, himself is very moderate one. They tend to look up to what they think as a better group whether they are in China or in other western countries. If given equal chances, they can achieve in other areas as well not just commerce. I think giving a boost to Cantonese group is important, so they can stand on their own two feet and have more impact on Peking rather than being directed from Peking. IMO, Southern Chinese tend to have problem creating a sense of pride to be sovereign selves . Lee Kwan Yew is also struggling with Singapore national identity, which is actually more like corporate pride for its citizens. Cut of her wealth, most Singaporean will leave that land for good.
Soon, Cantonese will feel like strangers in their homeland where their language is not spoken and are surrounded by people with complete different looks. Such a nostalgia!
Mid-Night_Sun
QUOTE(papabearvn @ Dec 23 2008, 12:57 AM) [snapback]4057334[/snapback]
Majority of Cantonese can be categorized like swing states in the U.S. It's not their always choices to do business but that's how environment shapes them. Their mentality is to serve (doesn't mean to want to be ruled) which is different from Vietnamese since most Viets want to be their own bosses thus through a long history of Cantonese they only produce one significant leader even though the guy, Sun Yat Sen, himself is very moderate one. They tend to look up to what they think as a better group whether they are in China or in other western countries. If given equal chances, they can achieve in other areas as well not just commerce. I think giving a boost to Cantonese group is important, so they can stand on their own two feet and have more impact on Peking rather than being directed from Peking. IMO, Southern Chinese tend to have problem creating a sense of pride to be sovereign selves . Lee Kwan Yew is also struggling with Singapore national identity, which is actually more like corporate pride for its citizens. Cut of her wealth, most Singaporean will leave that land for good.
Soon, Cantonese will feel like strangers in their homeland where their language is not spoken and are surrounded by people with complete different looks. Such a nostalgia!


LOL! somebody is in a dream world. all you have are nail salons and you say you want to be your own boss. we got whole chinese plazas, canto run. even your so called gangsters are toy soldiers for us. LOL HK and Macau are the only two SAR in China, nobody in China has as much freedom as they do. hahaha, word of advice, its really stupid to talk about being your own boss when you are so economically challenged and have no significant business accomplishments anywhere.

you should really stop obsessing so much over cantonese because first and foremost, we dont give a shyt about you guys. unless you start shyt, we would never ever think of comparing with you lmao. second, you obviously dont know anything, thats a small wrinkle in your rant.
hadoken
QUOTE(Mid-Night_Sun @ Dec 22 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]4057402[/snapback]
LOL! somebody is in a dream world. all you have are nail salons and you say you want to be your own boss. we got whole chinese plazas, canto run. even your so called gangsters are toy soldiers for us. LOL HK and Macau are the only two SAR in China, nobody in China has as much freedom as they do. hahaha, word of advice, its really stupid to talk about being your own boss when you are so economically challenged and have no significant business accomplishments anywhere.

you should really stop obsessing so much over cantonese because first and foremost, we dont give a shyt about you guys. unless you start shyt, we would never ever think of comparing with you lmao. second, you obviously dont know anything, thats a small wrinkle in your rant.


Haha you're funny. In actuality, WE are the ones that don't want anything to do with YOU. I don't know about anybody else here, but I could give a rats @$$ if we once shared the same ancestors or not, although I wouldn't mind taking back the land. All we have are nail salons? Haha, we're the ones who actually reach for the skies and aim high while you chinese settle for anything that makes above middle-class income (i.e. dim sum restaurants) and consider yourselves successful. Where are YOUR real "significant" business accomplishments? I'm not too sure when the last time I heard of such a thing, and it's sad because business is all you guys know and serving other people does seem to be what you guys are good at.
M9Empir3
QUOTE(hadoken @ Dec 23 2008, 03:41 AM) [snapback]4057616[/snapback]
Haha you're funny. In actuality, WE are the ones that don't want anything to do with YOU. I don't know about anybody else here, but I could give a rats @$$ if we once shared the same ancestors or not, although I wouldn't mind taking back the land. All we have are nail salons? Haha, we're the ones who actually reach for the skies and aim high while you chinese settle for anything that makes above middle-class income (i.e. dim sum restaurants) and consider yourselves successful. Where are YOUR real "significant" business accomplishments? I'm not too sure when the last time I heard of such a thing, and it's sad because business is all you guys know and serving other people does seem to be what you guys are good at.


You lied, this forum is a perfect example to show that quite some viet get huge inferior complexity and desperately try their best to link themselve to not just cantonese, but also the entire Southern Chinese due to they believe the Southern Chinese are far smarter and have more ecnomoic success compared to the viet, so they hope by linking themselves to Chinese their complexity can get a boost kiss.gif

However the hard truth is, even henry00 admits that the Chinese dominate viet economy before as well, which suggest you aint get too much difference from Malayisa/Filpo from a Chinese POV kiss.gif

To those viets who is obesse with Cantonese or even the entire Southern Chinese: You will get nothing but becoming an entertainning laughing stock here, we still dont accept you, even your so-called "cantonese bros" make fun of you (see AF for an example, If I am not mistaken then almost one half AF Chinese here are desecent of Guangdong), how pathetic you can be? kiss.gif

To those self-repected viet: I am fine with you, you can only gain respect from others by first respect yourself. kiss.gif

Anyway, Peace kiss.gif
M9Empir3
And no, the viet here should not acting as if they are innocent regarding racism, see how your angry members such as Mr.Gene call khmer people like "nigga" or etc, there are so much racism there kiss.gif
Mid-Night_Sun
QUOTE(hadoken @ Dec 23 2008, 05:41 AM) [snapback]4057616[/snapback]
Haha you're funny. In actuality, WE are the ones that don't want anything to do with YOU. I don't know about anybody else here, but I could give a rats @$$ if we once shared the same ancestors or not, although I wouldn't mind taking back the land. All we have are nail salons? Haha, we're the ones who actually reach for the skies and aim high while you chinese settle for anything that makes above middle-class income (i.e. dim sum restaurants) and consider yourselves successful. Where are YOUR real "significant" business accomplishments? I'm not too sure when the last time I heard of such a thing, and it's sad because business is all you guys know and serving other people does seem to be what you guys are good at.


then you should stop talking about us laugh.gif find your viet threads in chinese chat please!

reach for the skies? haha yeah right, like what? such a dumbass. overseas alone, cantonese have whole MALLS, plazas, besides restaurants. we have BANKS too. the fuk you got, pho mi. without overseas, HKs skyline alone means you guys stop talking and stare at your feet.

serious, you guys keep making all these claims about not giving a shyt, being your own boss, reaching skies but still have yet to give one shred of proof. i gave plenty of examples of shyt i needed to back up.

now be a smart boy and prove to me you want nothing to do with us and stop obsessing.
papabearvn
I respect your rights to be angry icon_smile.gif and wish you remain alert about your homeland being dominated by northern Chinese and I do promote Cantonese having a stronger sense of self-sovereignty and nationhood. By saying being your boss is not exactly a compliment, sometimes it complicates the problem, people can become very stubborn, eg. Vietnamese anti-commie groups. The Jews used to have that same mentality, but eventually they aimed to become fully independent and not limit themselves with financial satisfaction. Becoming a member of Cantonese Independence Group can be a good start, it’s where you can exchange ideas freely without being disturbed by other groups. In Russia and Ukraine, Vietnamese also have their own banks, like ones from Technocom Group which is also the owner of Vinpearl Land and Vincom (Vietnamese inside Vietnam are probably more aware of this than oversea Vietnamese in western countries). HongKong and Macau skylines are incredible but not everyone is happy about little carrots given to them.

ps: don't worry about boys like myempire, he's just here to get his false sense of superiority over Cantonese.
henry00
QUOTE(Mid-Night_Sun @ Dec 23 2008, 05:26 AM) [snapback]4057674[/snapback]
then you should stop talking about us laugh.gif find your viet threads in chinese chat please!

reach for the skies? haha yeah right, like what? such a dumbass. overseas alone, cantonese have whole MALLS, plazas, besides restaurants. we have BANKS too. the fuk you got, pho mi. without overseas, HKs skyline alone means you guys stop talking and stare at your feet.

serious, you guys keep making all these claims about not giving a shyt, being your own boss, reaching skies but still have yet to give one shred of proof. i gave plenty of examples of shyt i needed to back up.

now be a smart boy and prove to me you want nothing to do with us and stop obsessing.


Cantonese bro! Please don't talk sh!t about your motherland Vietnam. Please bring more money back to motherland love2.gif love2.gif.
VoAnhKiem
lol at china boys kiss.gif
vietnam
QUOTE(M9Empir3 @ Dec 23 2008, 04:06 AM) [snapback]4057629[/snapback]
You lied, this forum is a perfect example to show that quite some viet get huge inferior complexity and desperately try their best to link themselve to not just cantonese, but also the entire Southern Chinese due to they believe the Southern Chinese are far smarter and have more ecnomoic success compared to the viet, so they hope by linking themselves to Chinese their complexity can get a boost kiss.gif


Yeah right, and pigs would fly, too, in your (presumely) more superior world. embarassedlaugh.gif

Go back to your chatroom and stay tuned for reports about your government faked spacewalk, doctored Mother-of-all-Olympics, silented poisoned milk powder, shoes-that-can cause cancer, and what not. In my world, to be called a Chinese is a kind of an insult. Really.
M9Empir3
Dont believe me, believe your own eyes kiss.gif

Just have a look at your following viets' pathetic replys in this thread before you make a pathetic joke of yourself kiss.gif
Vietnamese1300
QUOTE(M9Empir3 @ Dec 23 2008, 04:06 AM) [snapback]4057629[/snapback]
You lied, this forum is a perfect example to show that quite some viet get huge inferior complexity and desperately try their best to link themselve to not just cantonese, but also the entire Southern Chinese due to they believe the Southern Chinese are far smarter and have more ecnomoic success compared to the viet, so they hope by linking themselves to Chinese their complexity can get a boost kiss.gif

However the hard truth is, even henry00 admits that the Chinese dominate viet economy before as well, which suggest you aint get too much difference from Malayisa/Filpo from a Chinese POV kiss.gif

To those viets who is obesse with Cantonese or even the entire Southern Chinese: You will get nothing but becoming an entertainning laughing stock here, we still dont accept you, even your so-called "cantonese bros" make fun of you (see AF for an example, If I am not mistaken then almost one half AF Chinese here are desecent of Guangdong), how pathetic you can be? kiss.gif

To those self-repected viet: I am fine with you, you can only gain respect from others by first respect yourself. kiss.gif

Anyway, Peace kiss.gif

Too bad Chinese domination of Vietnam's economy was short lived so in the Vietnamese's eyes you guys are nothing embarassedlaugh.gif
M9Empir3
QUOTE(Vietnamese1300 @ Dec 23 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]4058262[/snapback]
Too bad Chinese domination of Vietnam's economy was short lived so in the Vietnamese's eyes you guys are nothing embarassedlaugh.gif


Tell all your rest viet followers to do so, then we can finally get some peace kiss.gif
xDestinx
this idiot M9Empir3 sound just like Tehan (The Chinese Extremist)...both are cookoo in the head asskick.gif
Happy Asian
QUOTE(M9Empir3 @ Dec 24 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]4058164[/snapback]
Dont believe me, believe your own eyes kiss.gif

Just have a look at your following viets' pathetic replys in this thread before you make a pathetic joke of yourself kiss.gif

What your country need is another b!tch slap from Japan, to realise what an inferior nation the PRC really is.
M9Empir3
QUOTE(xDestinx @ Dec 24 2008, 05:01 AM) [snapback]4059138[/snapback]
this idiot M9Empir3 sound just like Tehan (The Chinese Extremist)...both are cookoo in the head


Talking about 'idiot', the one who desperately try to link themselves with someone who keep laughing at them, are the truly pathetic idiots. kiss.gif


QUOTE(Happy Asian @ Dec 24 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]4059138[/snapback]
What your country need is another b!tch slap from Japan, to realise what an inferior nation the PRC really is.


Like I said before, I suppose everyone can have a dream kiss.gif
Happy Asian
^We all have a dream, but in your case there is a wet dream.
M9Empir3
QUOTE(Happy Asian @ Dec 24 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]4059365[/snapback]
^We all have a dream, but in your case there is a wet dream.


My case is we dont want you and the cantonese here treat you like a joke, so yes, truth hurts kiss.gif
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