Talks on telecom cooperation between Viet Nam and Israel
09/10/2004 -- 03:12(GMT+7)

Ha Noi (VNA)- Cooperation opportunities in information, post and telecommunications between Viet Nam and Israel were the theme of talks held in Ha Noi on Thursday.

Addressing the talks, co-chaired by the Viet Nam Chamber of Commerce and Industry (VCCI) and the Israeli Embassy in Viet Nam, Uri Olenik, Director General, Ministry of Communications, said Israel is a leading country in the production of optical fibre cable, digital switchboards and multimedia solutions.

Israel's telecom exports have, since 1998, increased 83 percent to 2.93 billion USD, he said, adding that the robust growth of Israel's telecom sector is partly thanks to the privatisation of Bezeq, the Israel Telecommunications Corp., Israels's former telecom monopoly.

For his part, Hoang Van Dung, Vice Chairman of the VCCI said Israel has advanced equipment that can be used in Viet Nam, especially in rural areas. Viet Nam has recently imported television equipment and optical fibre cable from Israel.

The VCCI plans to help Vietnamese enterprises to participate in a fair on information technology scheduled for next November in Israel.--Enditem.

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I am against Vietnam having anything to do with the Jewish zionists.

Now come on, we can always benefit from them. I'm hoping they will one day sell us their military weapons. As long as we don't interfere with the Palestinian conflict then it's ok if we trade with them and other things.

We should deal with everyone equaly.... all who come as friends can be friends , those who come as enemies must leave or die... thats what I think...

It is against our moral obligation to trade with a terrorist state like Israel. They are persecuting the Palestinians like how the Chinese used to do to us.

Solidarity with the Palestinians.

Man, I don't know there story, but I think the palestinian got greedy and wanted all the land and now they are suffering.....

I heard that at first Israel only got a little bit of land, but then the Palestianians attacked them and then Israel was able to defend themselves and ended up annexing their land.

Is this true?

I think it is better if vietnam doesn't get involve with Irael

That's why I said, we don't trust any communist regime. They screwed North Korean, now they screw their long time friend Palestine.

If they buy Israel equipment, they're directly supporting the Israel war with Palestinian people. Darn, where are the suicide bombers in Hanoi?

Watch your dirty mouth FBV

I don't trust any regime except for free ones.

That's okay to me, I'm rather being an Israel's b!tch than a China's b!tch!

I support Vietnam-Israel cooperation.

We don't even have a lot of muslims in Vietnam.

As long as we are in the right, Vietnam should be prosperous.

Israel conquered some land of strategic importance during the Israeli/Arab war of 1967, the arab mission to eradicate Israel. One of the most humiliating wars in Arab history. Invaded by Syria and Lebanon in the north, Jordan to the east, Egypt in the south and supported by other soldiers from other arab states like saudi arabia, algeria, kuwait, Iraq and others. Israel defeats the arab league and gains the West bank to the west from Jordan and the Gaza Strip from Eqypt.....did i mention in 6 days? They had superior everything over the pathetic arabs.

True but Israel had American weapons.

yeah, no doubt that israel was backed with american weapons.

but weapons or not...Israel displayed some great strategic planning, organization and efficiency. I dont know many countries off by hand that have survived after even a two front war. Although there is still the discrepancy of who actually initiated the war, but it doesnt matter cuz both sides were supposedly prepared.

They should never return those lands?? or should they???

If cooperating with Israel will benefit Vietnam then that's justified. The Palestinian i can hardly care less about them.

What about South Vietnam? Did I mention?

I said Viet Cong regime is untrusthworthy because they would stab their friends on the back. I have to go post this news on Palestinian website and return and tell you how they feel.

Yes, i think the west bank should EVENTUALLY given to the palestinians, but i think the gaza strip should be kept.

You know Israel has already given a $hitload of land back...they conquered the entire Sinai Peninsula from Egypt and evetually gave it back after a peace treaty.
that land alone has got to be over 80% of the land they conquered and then given back.

But they gained it in self defense..... they should be allowed to keep it...

If you people want to argue with each other about issue of the jew or arab please don't do it at this viet chat forum

yup, but i think it was worth it for israel to give that chunk back.

egypt is probably the most powerful arab neighbor to israel. you dont see many crazed islamic fundamentalists coming from egypt...that could of been different if israel didnt give back that strategic chunk of land back.

on top of that, the sinai peninsula controls the Suez Canal, the shortcut for ships to go from Asia to Europe, which would of made it more complicated and would of definitely led to more bloodshed.

I guess some things just have to be compromised ... Rewards also come with great strength and power....

Without the zionist Jews threatening to use nukes against the Arab states if the US did not give them billions worth of weaponry in the 1973 Yom Kippur War, the Jews would have been defeated by the Arab coalition against zionist oppressors.

The Jews cannot be trusted.

are you against the jews cuz you're a muslim NQSH?

NO. I'm against Jew for the same reason as non-Muslims who are against Jews. I have a Russian Jew as a friend myself.

To clarify, I'm only against the zionist Jews and the Jewish oppressors of the Palestinian people. I'm also against the type of cloak and dagger American Jews.

I still think the Arab states coalition is a joke, just like how it was decades ago.

anyway, cant trust the Jews, the same goes for the Islamic fundamentalists that are the voice of Palestinians.

Hey Henry Kissinger was a Jew and he helped to broker a peace deal between US and Vietnam.

Not really, he tried to intensify the bombing of North VN....

What is the nobel peace prize for then? I thought he got a nobel peace prize.
maybe i'm wrong.

Well maybe , ask Nam Quoc he knows more about Jews than I do....

Ithought kissinger is a wanted war criminal, even afraid to go to Europe because they might arrest and charge him with war crimes .....

Everything you've said was a bunch of ifs and made absolutely no sense unless you came from a parallel world where South Vietnam still exists.

Of course he said that as you FBV would like to think/hope south VN still exist... that is why he said that... :genius:

If its to advance Vietnam, its all good. Anyway, 99% of Isreal's technology is actually passed down from America, aint it?

Kissinger winning the Nobel Prize was a joke. It's like giving the prize to Hitler for Peace.

Kissinger was directly responsible for the carpet bombing of South and North Vietnam, as well as using defoliant Agent Orange on Vietnam.

That bastard will rot in hell.

Yeah, true. And not only because of the Jihad problem.

US + Israel "invest" very little money, very little money, Jewish manner? stingy stingy, and in some specific sectors - just for espionnage, if you look out.

EDIT: Are they trying to bug the telecom in Viet-Nam?

He wasn't the only won who won the peace prize, he won it with North Vietnam's Tho as well.

But the thing is, Kissenger only wanted "peace" because there was no way to win in Vietnam.

It's like attacking a country, and finding out you can't win so you try to save face for your defeat by declaring that you want to have "peace".

If Americans were winning I doubt Kissenger would be "peaceful".

Even though that treaty favoured the North Vietnamese since it still allowed 200,000 NVA troops to still remain in South Vietnam, all it did was let the Americans leave, and when they did, South Vietnam easily failed. If Americans were winning they would have had a better negotiating position and those 200,000 NVA troops in South Vietnam would have left.

In fact they were near flat broke. No more subsides. If they hahn't retreated, so many more GIs could have have been killed, probably. In no way could they any longer coninue that messy war.

That treaty favoured the NVA. Everyone knows that the side that is winning mostly gets the most favourable treaty.

hm.. these little business scam is always the same. It's all about the selfish desire of the corporations.

What wrong? Can't find it on Google? Therefore it has to come off your behind?

US spent substantial money on R&D every year. R&D funding come from 5 sectors, Federal, Industry, Universities and colleges, FFRDCs and non-profit organizations.

Private industry is the largest source of R&D funding in the United States. In 2002, this sector provided 65.5 percent ($180.8 billion) of total R&D funding. Most of these funds (98.1 percent) flowed to industrial performers of R&D. The Federal Government provided the second largest share of R&D funding, 28.3 percent ($78.2 billion), with only 43.6 percent of these funds financing Federal labs and FFRDCs. The other sectors of the economy (i.e., state governments, universities and colleges, and nonprofit institutions) contributed the remaining 6.2 percent ($17.2 billion) (table 4-1 ). In 2004, R&D budget reached 399.2 billions. (table 4.11)

In 2000 about two-thirds of foreign-owned R&D in the United States was performed in three industries: chemicals and pharmaceuticals, computer and electronic products, and transportation equipment. Several countries invested $1 billion or more in R&D in the United States in 2000: Germany, the United Kingdom, Switzerland, Japan, Canada, France, Israel and the Netherlands, accounting for about 90 percent of all R&D expenditures by foreign-owned firms in the United States.

Corporate data tabulated by the U.S. Department of Commerce (DOC) reveal that the R&D spending of U.S.-headquartered corporations grew from $93.6 billion in 1994 to $164.5 billion in 2000, implying average annual real growth of 7.9 percent over the period (U.S. DOC/TA 2002). The largest and fastest growing R&D sectors during this period were the information and electronics manufacture and services sector, which spent $35.3 billion on R&D in 1994 and $77.7 billion in 2000, and the medical substances and devices sector, which spent $16.7 billion in 1994 and $32.5 billion in 2000 (appendix table 4-22 ). Preliminary analysis of more recent company records indicates that the growth of U.S. corporate R&D slowed in 2001. (See sidebar, "Corporate R&D Strategies in an Uncertain Economy," for information on how some U.S.-based corporations intended to adjust their R&D policies in 2003.)

hey stưffy, I mean you, the shame of the dead and gone VietNamDNCongHoa, the shame of your very family!

"the illiterate idiot who stuffs pages with off-topics"

You should stay away, never quote me again.

Everyone here knows you're neither very smart nor intelligent, that you're incapable of writing something, anything!

That's not a good reason to pretend you can write something, by stealing someone else's text, and copy-and-paste it here. It's also off-topic anyway - as usual with the monkey you are.

When you quote somebody, then put << ...... >> around it. You're not fooling anybody here.

Aw , please don't be mad over little argument on internet.

However, thank you for point it out to me. Yes, I should put the <...> around it. But you have to understand. I took my notebook to the toilet and took a big dump. So, I only have one hand. Sorry for unable to use the other hand to put <....> around it for you. Plus I have to do it quick. If not I would be late for work. So sorry.

Now, I know I am not that smart and intelligent. That is why I look up to you. Can I call you "si phu?" Thank you for your warm regards to my family. Same to you Si Fu....

About Israel telecom deal with VN, I think Palestinians will be mad at Vietnam forever.

i don't give a shiet about what the palestinian feel.

They don't give a sh!t what you feel either. But I think suidcide bombers are on their way. haha...

I don't think the Palestinians even pay attention to what Vietnam does, and most of them don't even know about this telecom deal and even if they did, why would it piss them off?

yeah, nobody cares if you do some business with Israel...unless it involves weapons.

who gives a shiet about what you traitors cares either. You and your forefather are just bitter because your good old days of being a French or American servants were over.