what do you think of renaming Vietnam back to Dai Viet or Viet Quoc?

i prefer Dai Viet
the name Viet NAM , imo referring us as "southern chinese"
while i dun want anything to do with them

Only 2 choices?

Can we call it Bác Hồ, can we, can we?

or can we call it UPOSEA (united provinces of south east asia)

or Peter (cos it sounds friendly)

stop trying to be funny

perhaps kinhland will work

Vietnam sounds fine the way it is, no change needed IMO.

daivietian sounds funny. We all are familiar with Vietnamese
daivietian chat somebody might have spelling problems

Not to mention VietQuocanese chat.

Yeah, I like the name Peter. It has a friendly ring to it.

Either that or DaiNamViet

The Kinh ethnic group represents about 80% to 85% of the Vietnamese population, while the other 53 ethnic groups represent 15% to 20% of the Vietnamese population.


It is in the Vietnamese Constitution that the Kinh along with other 53 ethnic groups that make up the Vietnamese population.


If the country is named Kinhland, then it ignores the 15% to 20% of Vietnamese. It is against the Vietnam Constitution.

yes but it means that we are people south of china.







It could be just Viet chat.

How about South China?

how about you go $hit yourself?

No, in that case, we'd just be called Viet... not 'Vietnamese'.

Name change is stupid. Why would you want to change the name of our motherland? Shows people don't care much for it.

the current name means that we are south of china, I don't want our country to be called south, north, west, or east of something.

Who said? Does not VietNam just mean 'the Viets of the South'? We're south compared to all of Asia, not just China.

So then may be YuanLand

I second you on that.

The current name "VietNam" was given by the Chinese. It supposed to be NamViet...or so I read somewhere....

I afraid you got mixed up....."An Nam" (Peaceful South) was the name Imperial China called our land, hoping for a pacified territory. Viet Nam is a modern name adopted during one of the Nguyen emperors' ruling.

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Thanks for the detail.....I didn't know.

Guys, it's just part of your / our identity, changing it superficially does not make sense.

What next? Erasing all the Han-Nom writing in temples and sheet? Changing 30+% of our vocab cos they originate from up there? Stop using paper cos it was originally invented by the Chinese?

Let's just be cool about your culture and identity and not let an inferiority complex (real or imagined) ruin your day.

"Tổ quốc tôi chưa đẹp thế bao giờ"

^"If we let X happen, the first thing you know Y will be happening." This is a form of slippery slope . Such claims are fallacious when in fact there is no reason to think that X will lead to Y. Sometimes X and Y can be the same of thing or can bear some kind of similarity to one another, but that doesn't mean that one will inevitably lead to the other.

As for the name change it would be nice to see a new name...but its gonna cost.I'm not enthusiastic about it but it would be nice, no?

^ Why not?

If X, Y and Z all have contaminant C that need purifying, why would you stop at X?

If you argue that by experience with certain drugs, it will leads to serious addiction or dependence. In this case, drugs are known to be addictive there is no fallacy present the likelihood of the progression is clear. However, you argue by changing Vietnam's current name will lead to many other things such as erasing Han-Nom, stop using paper, etc... is a logical fallacy of slippery slope. If chosen to change the name, it will not necessary or inevitably lead to erasing Han-Nom, stop using paper and so on. Unless there is some sounds reason to explain why it will lead to those things.

if you look at it using Vietnamese grammar it actually means Southern Viet or Viet of the South because in our grammar we put the modifier after the modified (adjective after noun). In this case of "Việt Nam", Việt is the main noun, Nam is the modifier for Việt. So we are the Viet people of the South or Viet people in the South.

In any case, the name of our country is the combination of the ethnic name "Việt" and the geography location "Nam" meaning "South"