Oh well, it is indeed taxing to converse with a person who has trouble understanding what is posted.
But anyways, I will give it another try.



FYI the PRC forces attacked and were beaten back. Not only were they beaten back but during the battle they had to signal a ceasefire, and then use that lull to sneak to an advantageous position. So much for adhering to the international conventions of war!

[[The Chinese troops had to signal a ceasefire just after three hours of fighting, but later scaled Point 15450 to establish themselves there]]


but wth is this site?
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/history2/0...2/12475305.html

why is such a site even cited in Wiki. I used google translate on it and the claims made on this article are beyond belief. lol!
It says that China won that engagement and the Indian forces raised the white flag.





LOL i dunno what you are smoking mate, but it is indeed pathetic you had to resort to such drivel written in some forum with no peer reviewed citations whatsoever. The link is totally bogus and Ill put a disputed tag on that wiki article today. To rectify this mistake in a few days if no action is taken. . Stop posting silly fan boy sites to back up your claim.







In case you are not aware, India recognizes the suzerainty of China over Tibet, not Sovereignty. Note the difference.
The bottom line is China gave up on Sikkim.The same way its attempted incursion in 1967 was beaten back.





You need to brush up your reading skills. Let me help you. ill post my sentence here again
[[Also read up on the 1987 incident where the PRC bully tactics backfired spectacularly.]]

^^ how did you infer from this statement that the 1987 incident was a shooting war? 2+2 = 4 not 22 or 5






pls stop trying to save face. the Bottom line is that China tried to Bully India in 1987 and had to give up when India did not back down.

Lol stop using fanboy sites (that too in Chinese!) to back up totally false claims. Furthermore India need not have to match Chinese military in order to defend India and its assets. The next time you see a world map, check see wehre China gets about 85% of its oil from. And which country sits astride China's vital lifeline.

as they say, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multi...big_978339a.jpg
http://www.africa-asia-confidential.com/up...acy_09a_COL.jpg

maybe it is you who have to read your art of war again...I would also suggest reading up on the Arthashastra by Chanakya and On War by Clausewitz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthashastra

also Why do you think America is sucking up to India in a major way? can you infer the reason?(it aint hard)

While we are at it why did you ignore Colonel Yu's post?


Btw you PRC folks have to wake up from 1962 which was nothing but a propaganda victory, and did yeoman service by ushering in the rebirth of the Indian military. What does not kill you only makes you stronger


PS: Can the PRC folks stop hijacking this thread? Simply answer the question why some PRC supporters here claim that China will use military force/threat of MIlitary force against Singapore. This is patently stupid, to say the least.

if you want to talk about stuff NOT related to this thread, then start a new thread about it rather than derail the topic being discussed

Lol I posted the wiki link not cos i accepted the lameass links the article has, but only to serve as general overview for someone who is not aware of it.
At least i didnt post some Hindi link, like your Chinese one, I posted an English one. Why would a sane person post a non-English link on an English forum?

And the best part was that article of yours was claiming fantastic numbers(pulling em out of thin air) it was also claiming that the PRC caused nearly 100 times the casualties. Was it an army of spidermen/batmen?

the best part was yet to come though!. It one-upped itself and claimed that the Indians put up a white flag and surrendered, when it was the Chinese forces who pulled back .

lol, you still conveniently ignore the post by Colonel Yu. Sure, sure


I dont belong? lol Why not? are you insinuating that Anyone who does not belong to a country cannot post? what kind of BS reasoning is this? What next? segregate AF based on posting privilages given to only own-country forums?. Lol as the Joker would ask, "Why so serious"?




And the funny part is, that you, Tianya, and some others(especially the ones who seem to have signed up on AF for only a day or two before (read "Trolls")) seem to have some OCD about Whatever I post. lol What has my post on this thread got to do with India? You do not see any Indians posting on China chat, however there seems to be quite a lot of Chinese psoting on Indians Chat. I welcome discussions, but not trolls. So why is this huge disparity? Seems like Chinese care much more about India than we care about you. lol A simple glance of the threads on the Indian forum will support my statement. Seems like you guys always have a chip on your shoulder. lol

If it irks you, lol so what? cry me a river. Just get accustomed to the reality.

China and Singapore is already "joined" at the hip. China's economic model of state capitalism is patterned after Singapore's. As China climbs higher economically, she will discard communism and her form of government will - hopefully - morph into something like that of Singapore (democratic-socialism) because neither wants western -style democracy. The bond between them will really be awesome when Beijing and Singapore is lashed together by a high-speed train running through Bangkok, Saigon and Hanoi.

i didnt post it. i used the same source you did. wiki. i have no clue what they decide to cite there.

i didnt ignore anything. i saw that post. then i saw you saying some thing like "drivel from a forum". now that was.........actually something you do often to me.

you claimed PRC are hijacking this thread, but this thread is about China and Singapore. so im telling you, Chinese are actually part of the topic, so we arent hijacking anything. you are the outsider.


if you want to think a few posts in your forum means Chinese care then go ahead. we are not so desperate for attention. we are here because the topic thread mentions China, thats probably the reason 95%+ of the Chinese who actually read this are here.

why are you? well, how about we use your retarded forum posts logic. you are obsessed with either China, Singapore or both so you cant resist checking out this thread.

now that sounds just as dumb to me as your point about forum posts, but since im using your style maybe you will see a point.

How can a large country like China copy economic model from a city like singapore?U must read too much propaganda from LKY.
Of course I admit two countries have a lot of similiarities, for example, singapore's opposition end up in Australia while china's opposition end up in US/Europea.
Talk about communism, China never has true communism. It is more like a bureaucratic capitalism.

Well, Malacca strait is still important for US. So US would not give up singapore, which means singapore would never be a part of China.
Trans-Asian Railway is for the trade between china and other SEA countries, but not for the connection between BJ and SG. "Made in china" may be not good enough for singaporeans but it still can attract other developing countries.

How about becoming a part of Singapore instead

(Just kidding. You already know)

A city like Singapore that works is the blueprint not only for China but also for global governance. For example, America's illegal immigrant problem has a Singapore solution: flog everyone who gets across the border before throwing them out.



How are they similar? Do you mean that their political dissidents head out to western countries like all trash ending up in trash bins?



True. The Chinese invented money.




The US is broke. The US may even have to give up California to the Chinese.



Trade? Ok, if you prefer to see it that way. See what happens when Chinese high-speed trains zips back and forth from Beijing to Singapore.

But china is a large country not a city. And no, our borderline is too long.


Maybe some r trash maybe some r not. God knows.


I can not get ur clue.



US is still there.




There r already airline connecting singapore and BJ. I do not think singaporeans would like railway.

One word, sg and china can get nothing from each other.

Our border? Omigod, are you a mainlander, tianya?

Is that so strange?

Velly strange. Nee hui jiang wa yee ma?

I think it is strange if I can not speak chinese.
wo dang ran hui jiang.

Ethnic Chinese is in charge of Thailand and Singapore. Are these two country a Chinese colony?

Singapore welcome Chinese immigrant from mainland China. Because of their hardwork and business skilled.

maybe ，in the future

actually english make up very small portion of white americans. german and irish are the biggest ethnic groups in america. as for australia and new zealand, i imagine they have a bit more since they're part of the british commonwealth and they seem british anway.