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henry00
I just find out that South Vietnamese people are little bit black right now and have a big nose like SE asian. Any way, we can check those Chinese eye, before we give them our visa laugh.gif.
coldsunlight
NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOO
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(henry00 @ Jun 11 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]3750482[/snapback]
I just find out that South Vietnamese people are little bit black right now and have a big nose like SE asian. Any way, we can check those Chinese eye, before we give them our visa laugh.gif.

are you Northern Vietnamese? embarassedlaugh.gif
dalatian
yes...just the cute babes biggthumpup.gif
Tav6
lol i do not understand what the TS said embarassedlaugh.gif
FrankJaegerTheGrayFox
QUOTE(dalatian @ Jun 11 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]3750577[/snapback]
yes...just the cute babes biggthumpup.gif


I whole hearted agree with this comment.
dalatian
QUOTE(FrankJaegerTheGrayFox @ Jun 11 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]3750587[/snapback]
I whole hearted agree with this comment.

agreement doesn't guarantee that i'll share icon_wink.gif
FrankJaegerTheGrayFox
QUOTE(dalatian @ Jun 11 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]3750594[/snapback]
agreement doesn't guarantee that i'll share icon_wink.gif


I'm not interesting...they're for our comrades in the south.
coldsunlight
You guys want to fill Vietnam with chinese blood? embarassedlaugh.gif
Kaosq
QUOTE(coldsunlight @ Jun 11 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]3750604[/snapback]
You guys want to fill Vietnam with chinese blood? embarassedlaugh.gif


Only if they invade us. icon_smile.gif
coldsunlight
QUOTE(Kaosq @ Jun 11 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]3750610[/snapback]
Only if they invade us. icon_smile.gif

they will invade us if our country is filled with chinese blood. Think about the US right now embarassedlaugh.gif
FrankJaegerTheGrayFox
QUOTE(coldsunlight @ Jun 11 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]3750629[/snapback]
they will invade us if our country is filled with chinese blood. Think about the US right now embarassedlaugh.gif


Fill with blood as in...use your imagination...the imagination of a killer.
Kaosq
QUOTE(coldsunlight @ Jun 11 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]3750629[/snapback]
they will invade us if our country is filled with chinese blood. Think about the US right now embarassedlaugh.gif


Hmm... you must talking about those... no can't be... OH THEM. embarassedlaugh.gif
coldsunlight
QUOTE(FrankJaegerTheGrayFox @ Jun 11 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]3750631[/snapback]
Fill with blood as in...use your imagination...the imagination of a killer.

cry2.gif I still don't understand, sorry for my pathetic imagine ability cry2.gif
But you sound intimidating confused.gif
Kaosq
QUOTE(FrankJaegerTheGrayFox @ Jun 11 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]3750631[/snapback]
Fill with blood as in...use your imagination...the imagination of a killer.


Too much Metal Gear, Dan. laugh.gif
FrankJaegerTheGrayFox
QUOTE(coldsunlight @ Jun 11 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]3750640[/snapback]
cry2.gif I still don't understand, sorry for my pathetic imagine ability cry2.gif
But you sound intimidating confused.gif



err never mind...Was I was trying to say is you're cute..thats all
XigonCongchua
we don't want to turn out like Thailand
srslybsns
^ +1

(No offense to Thai people)
coldsunlight
QUOTE(FrankJaegerTheGrayFox @ Jun 11 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]3750650[/snapback]
err never mind...Was I was trying to say is you're cute..thats all

what a way of expressing T_T



why AF is sooo slow
XigonCongchua
^ so it wasn't just me...i thought my internet connection had problem

man we were having fun bashing the troll and the net just slowed down.
dalatian
QUOTE(coldsunlight @ Jun 11 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]3750671[/snapback]
what a way of expressing T_T
why AF is sooo slow

because it stops to admire your cuteness, coldsunlight cutie kiss.gif
StephenDFAgain
Chinese immigrants don't really want to go to Vietnam anymore. They rather go to USA, Canada, Australia, so on.

Only Chinese businessmen want to go to Vietnam.
papabearvn
Well, Vietnam did welcome apolitical Chinese, especially Cantonese & Fujianese, to settle in uninhabited land in the past icon_smile.gif.
FrankJaegerTheGrayFox
I believe Stephen ancestors were one of those....
dalatian
QUOTE(papabearvn @ Jun 11 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]3750843[/snapback]
Well, Vietnam did welcome apolitical Chinese, especially Cantonese & Fujianese, to settle in uninhabited land in the past icon_smile.gif.

when did this happen?
coldsunlight
QUOTE(dalatian @ Jun 11 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]3750858[/snapback]
when did this happen?

a while ago, after wars.
that's why there is a chinatown in Ho Chi Minh city, just like in San Francisco Talktohand.gif
StephenDFAgain
QUOTE(papabearvn @ Jun 11 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]3750843[/snapback]
Well, Vietnam did welcome apolitical Chinese, especially Cantonese & Fujianese, to settle in uninhabited land in the past icon_smile.gif.


i understand that for sure. i'm just returning a sharp comment to some of the people in here.
Kaosq
QUOTE(dalatian @ Jun 11 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]3750577[/snapback]
yes...just the cute babes biggthumpup.gif


QUOTE(FrankJaegerTheGrayFox @ Jun 11 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]3750587[/snapback]
I whole hearted agree with this comment.


I concur. beerchug.gif
papabearvn
QUOTE(dalatian @ Jun 12 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]3750858[/snapback]
when did this happen?


Southern Expansion. In Hoi An, the Fujian House & Canton House are still there. In Mekong Delta & Phu Quoc island as well. Fujianese & Cantonese settlers created a nice buffer for cultural assimilation. But during European colonialism, Chinese in South East Asia exploited it and became middle-men in the system, it was then that the problem happened.
dalatian
QUOTE(coldsunlight @ Jun 11 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]3750873[/snapback]
a while ago, after wars.
that's why there is a chinatown in Ho Chi Minh city, just like in San Francisco Talktohand.gif

naw...they've been there since at least 18th centurỵ gấu said there were allowed to live in some uninhabited land... sounds like kinh tế mới but not sure if that's what he meant.
coldsunlight
QUOTE(StephenDFAgain @ Jun 11 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]3750874[/snapback]
i understand that for sure. i'm just returning a sharp comment to some of the people in here.

I did not try to offend any chinese though.
it's just we vietnamese are already in unstable situation, while Chinese's expansion is getting stronger icon_wink.gif
I have chinese friends too, so don't take it too serious
StephenDFAgain
QUOTE(coldsunlight @ Jun 11 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]3750883[/snapback]
I did not try to offend any chinese though.
it's just we vietnamese are already in unstable situation, while Chinese's expansion is getting stronger icon_wink.gif
I have chinese friends too, so don't take it too serious


beerchug.gif you're so sweet, but no, i wasn't talking about you. i mean the thread creator and probably another person. i like Chinese eyes, even the really small and narrow kind embarassedlaugh.gif
coldsunlight
QUOTE(dalatian @ Jun 11 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]3750881[/snapback]
naw...they've been there since at least 18th centurỵ gấu said there were allowed to live in some uninhabited land... sounds like kinh tế mới but not sure if that's what he meant.

I mean the people in saigon. They invaded us too many times, for sure some of them have been there for a while
btw, when the chinese attack (in 1986 i think), the vietnamese treated chinese horribly...

QUOTE(StephenDFAgain @ Jun 11 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]3750898[/snapback]
beerchug.gif you're so sweet, but no, i wasn't talking about you. i mean the thread creator and probably another person. i like Chinese eyes, even the really small and narrow kind embarassedlaugh.gif

He is not in normal condition embarassedlaugh.gif
he did not even like south vietnamese embarassedlaugh.gif
qwe123
fuk no
i dun want those filthy selfish SOBs in our country
get fu-k!!!!!!!!!!
kunomchu
QUOTE(qwe123 @ Jun 12 2008, 01:32 AM) [snapback]3751039[/snapback]
fuk no
i dun want those filthy selfish SOBs in our country
get fu-k!!!!!!!!!!


what a bigoted attitude.

Now I don't get along with StephenDFAgain but reading from his posts, he is 100% Chinese in Blood but sees himself more as Vietnamese. To call him, a chinese who feels very much for vietnam, a filthy selfish sob is so racist and ignorant. People with your way of thinking are only hurting vietnam.



papabearvn
QUOTE(dalatian @ Jun 12 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]3750881[/snapback]
naw...they've been there since at least 18th centurỵ gấu said there were allowed to live in some uninhabited land... sounds like kinh tế mới but not sure if that's what he meant.


Yeah, kinda like that, uninhabited land during Southern Expansion. The Cantonese & the Fujianese are generally less involved in politics (no offense to you guys) as it was proven in history, among many Yue groups, only Lac Viet people are able to retain their identity although there were still connection between these groups in the past. The Funanese & Chenla people viewed the Cantonese & Fujianese settlers as harmless citizens but the cultural assimilation process could still be achieved. One prime example is Mạc Cửu.
Tav6
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Jun 11 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]3751048[/snapback]
what a bigoted attitude.

Now I don't get along with StephenDFAgain but reading from his posts, he is 100% Chinese in Blood but sees himself more as Vietnamese. To call him, a chinese who feels very much for vietnam, a filthy selfish sob is so racist and ignorant. People with your way of thinking are only hurting vietnam.



what are you talking about StephenDFAgain sees himself as CHINESE not viet sure.gif
qwe123
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qwe123
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kunomchu
QUOTE(Tav6 @ Jun 12 2008, 01:42 AM) [snapback]3751060[/snapback]
what are you talking about StephenDFAgain sees himself as CHINESE not viet sure.gif

From what I talked to him about on AF over a year ago, he seemed more identifiable with Vietnamese culture. People change. All I'm saying is there are alot of Chinese viets out there. Targeting minorities such as Chinese is not healthy for any society.
XigonCongchua
@papavietnam: that is why there are always more Chinese in South Vietnam than in North Vietnam, many provinces in South Vietnam were founded by the Fujianese or Cantonese but then they ceded those land to Lord Nguyen and became Viet citizens.
InitialDJay
QUOTE(qwe123 @ Jun 12 2008, 12:32 AM) [snapback]3751039[/snapback]
fuk no
i dun want those filthy selfish SOBs in our country
get fu-k!!!!!!!!!!

you are the selfish one.

i hope no chinese migrates to vietnam.
qwe123
QUOTE(InitialDJay @ Jun 12 2008, 12:56 AM) [snapback]3751107[/snapback]
you are the selfish one.

i hope no chinese migrates to vietnam.


im fighting for world's peace
V and C dont mixed well
theyre like cats and dogs
kunomchu
QUOTE(qwe123 @ Jun 12 2008, 01:57 AM) [snapback]3751109[/snapback]
im fighting for world's peace
V and C dont mixed well
theyre like cats and dogs


They actually do mix well. I know alot of viets who know cantonese. Full Viets. Not Chinese Vietnamese.
InitialDJay
QUOTE(qwe123 @ Jun 12 2008, 12:57 AM) [snapback]3751109[/snapback]
im fighting for world's peace
V and C dont mixed well
theyre like cats and dogs

world's peace? how the ___ is that world peace? explain please....

if you are going to hate chinese, which i don't have a problem with as it is none of my business but to say some dumb thing as world peace as if chinese has done the world anything wrong.

givee me an example of china ever done something wrong for the world!
coldsunlight
QUOTE(InitialDJay @ Jun 12 2008, 01:00 AM) [snapback]3751112[/snapback]
world's peace? how the ___ is that world peace? explain please....

if you are going to hate chinese, which i don't have a problem with as it is none of my business but to say some dumb thing as world peace as if chinese has done the world anything wrong.

givee me an example of china ever done something wrong for the world!

ignore him, he has issues Talktohand.gif
landsknechts
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Jun 11 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]3751082[/snapback]
From what I talked to him about on AF over a year ago, he seemed more identifiable with Vietnamese culture. People change. All I'm saying is there are alot of Chinese viets out there. Targeting minorities such as Chinese is not healthy for any society.

I don't know what you mean by targeting minorities but Vietnam has 53 ethnic minorities and Vietnam even has affirmative action favoring ethnic minorites as well. Vietnam even reserves a television channel for ethnic minorities to air programs in their languages. There is no law in Vietnam that specifically targets ethnic Chinese or any other ethnic minorities.

Comparing how the ethnic Chinese have to live behind electric wired fence with armed guard in Phillipines in fear of getting kidnapped or getting all kind of unjust acts in Malaysia and Indonesia, ..you can bet that the ethnic Chinese in Vietnam along with Thailand are living in the safest haven in Southeast Asia


XigonCongchua
nowadays I don't know

but in the past 300 years or so the Chinese constantly migrated to Vietnam...life in China was very chaotic...just read the novel "Chân Trời Cũ" by the Chinese/Viet poet/novelist named Hồ Dzếnh and you'll see.
kunomchu
QUOTE(landsknechts @ Jun 12 2008, 02:02 AM) [snapback]3751120[/snapback]
I don't know what you mean by targeting minorities but Vietnam has 53 ethnic minorities and Vietnam even has affirmative action favoring ethnic minorites as well. Vietnam even reserves a television channel for ethnic minorities to air programs in their languages. There is no law in Vietnam that specifically targets ethnic Chinese or any other ethnic minorities.

Comparing how the ethnic Chinese have to live behind electric wired fence with armed guard in Phillipines in fear of getting kidnapped or getting all kind of unjust acts in Malaysia and Indonesia, ..you can bet that the ethnic Chinese in Vietnam along with Thailand are living in the safest haven in Southeast Asia


I wasn't taking all of vietnam into context. I was directing my statements to the poster who made that ignorant comment. From my knowledge, Chinese in Vietnam have nothing to fear.
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Jun 11 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]3751111[/snapback]
They actually do mix well. I know alot of viets who know cantonese. Full Viets. Not Chinese Vietnamese.

I think the Vietnamese who can speak Cantonese well are the ones who have Cantonese blood. Full Vietnamese don't speak Cantonese well unless they marry a Cantonese.
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