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OaklandDoughboy
And in this case I'm talking about Vietnamese relatives in Vietnam. I hear and have experience this all the time within the Vietnamese community. I know it exist with other developing countries who have relatives in the states too. I have a love and hate relationship with some of my relatives in Vietnam. Some of my relatives love my family because they genuinely love us and miss us being in Vietnam with them. And some of my family members are the best scam artist on the face of this earth. I've been back and stay in Vietnam on and off and the scams that people pull off are amazing and the worst part about it is that it's family.

I've been scammed by the old " your grandmother is sick and you need to give her money for the bills." or the more recent ones "lets buy some real estate property and make a big profit" and then you find out your relatives forge a fake document with your signature to take over your investments. I guess I'm here venting my anger ,but I'm here to find out how many of you go through the same things. My parents use to argue about what money but as I've gotten older and our situation has gotten way better. I was hurt at first but am over it because the positives outweigh the negatives. The grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, nieces, and nephews that really love me for me and not my money makes me feel better than winning the lottery. And when it comes down to it all that matters is family.


But how many of you have had the hustling cousin, aunt, uncle, or even grandparents hustle u and what did u do and how did u get over it? I would love to know what you all have experience?
gosutron
My uncle tried to kill one of my other uncles once
supernovasp
A lot of drama going on involving around land..

it's expected though thumbsdown.gif
duong
Nigga stop telling people about family business!
DanSmith
QUOTE(duong @ Apr 25 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]3661852[/snapback]
Nigga stop telling people about family business!


Just keeping it realz, cuzz.




qwe123
my aunty and cousin (her son) scammed me and my parent $3000.
they said they needed money to pay for university fees.............
when we go back, we found out that they used that money to go on holiday............and gambling..............
now shes dirt poor
and i dun give a $hit
shes hated by the neighbours and all the members of my family.........
vietnam
I am not surprised at all. In a society where bribery is the way of living, a child learns from early age that there is no such thing as fairness and justice. The same person grows up thinking it's ok to get money from others around him any chance that he can, because he still needs to pay off more people in his daily living. So the circle continues. Individual morality breaks down. Social contract between individuals and the State is maintained by political oppression, enforced by the guns.


I once talked to a young woman from VN, who used to work in Haỉ Quan, checking luggages in TSN airport. She told me she made about 500USD a months. How? She gave the luggages owner hard time at checking in by pointing out the numerous violations that he had, real or imagination. The next step is "So, what you want me to do?" Most of the time, the owner thought it would be better for him to give her 20 USD discretly, than to miss his plane.

She told me the story w/ the straightest face. No remorse. No shame. And the victim was invariablely a Vietnamese.

Family relationship is what, if not the social relationship in a smaller scale.
qwe123
QUOTE(vietnam @ Apr 26 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]3662545[/snapback]
I am not surprised at all. In a society where bribery is the way of living, a child learns from early age that there is no such thing as fairness and justice. The same person grows up thinking it's ok to get money from others around him any chance that he can, because he still needs to pay off more people in his daily living. So the circle continues. Individual morality breaks down. Social contract between individuals and the State is maintained by political oppression, enforced by the guns.
I once talked to a young woman from VN, who used to work in Haỉ Quan, checking luggages in TSN airport. She told me she made about 500USD a months. How? She gave the luggages owner hard time at checking in by pointing out the numerous violations that he had, real or imagination. The next step is "So, what you want me to do?" Most of the time, the owner thought it would be better for him to give her 20 USD discretly, than to miss his plane.

She told me the story w/ the straightest face. No remorse. No shame. And the victim was invariablely a Vietnamese.

Family relationship is what, if not the social relationship in a smaller scale.


same goes for the VNCH when they took my grandpa land and sold it
Ngo Dinh Diem took his land and gave them away to northern refugees
he later used his own money to buy them back
where was the shame then pal??
and believe my grandpa was not the only one...
VNCH officials back then were just as corrupted as the VC of today
OaklandDoughboy
QUOTE(duong @ Apr 25 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]3661852[/snapback]
Nigga stop telling people about family business!



Nigga all Vietnamese go through this shyt. I just wanna hear other people's experience. By the way, Duong is my brother and he knows what i'm talking about.
OaklandDoughboy
QUOTE(qwe123 @ Apr 25 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]3661869[/snapback]
my aunty and cousin (her son) scammed me and my parent $3000.
they said they needed money to pay for university fees.............
when we go back, we found out that they used that money to go on holiday............and gambling..............
now shes dirt poor
and i dun give a $hit
shes hated by the neighbours and all the members of my family.........




Yeah in the long run the people that scam get exposed and nobody cares if they live or die. The family members that scammed my family usually are not model citizens anyway in the village so when they die; they will have nobody that will want to help carry their coffin.
blacklight
I can relate to your experience. [We have all been scammed by some relative or friend of the family at one time or another. I have relatives whom I love to deatha nd there are others I can't even stand looking at. Make sure that you can tell whom you can trust and whom you won't. The greatest reward in life is to have good relatives you can rely on. The greatest pain in life is having relatives who suck.
blacklight
I can relate to your experience. [We have all been scammed by some relative or friend of the family at one time or another. I have relatives whom I love to deatha nd there are others I can't even stand looking at. Make sure that you can tell whom you can trust and whom you won't. The greatest reward in life is to have good relatives you can rely on. The greatest pain in life is having relatives who suck.
SexualMustard
makes me think twice sometimes about visiting Vietnam and meeting relatives. Being born and raised in the states, my only family is my immediate family--mother, father, and 2 siblings. One uncle did come over later in my life, though. But I've never met any grandparents, cousins, aunts, or any other uncles. I sometimes fear that once I make that connection, they might be harassing me for the rest of my life for my money. I don't mind helping out family--I just don't want "family" to be an excuse to try to squeeze every penny out of me.


TINMAN
QUOTE(SexualMustard @ Apr 27 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]3665656[/snapback]
makes me think twice sometimes about visiting Vietnam and meeting relatives. Being born and raised in the states, my only family is my immediate family--mother, father, and 2 siblings. One uncle did come over later in my life, though. But I've never met any grandparents, cousins, aunts, or any other uncles. I sometimes fear that once I make that connection, they might be harassing me for the rest of my life for my money. I don't mind helping out family--I just don't want "family" to be an excuse to try to squeeze every penny out of me.


You should speak to your parents and find out more about the relatives in VN before making generalizations. Every family's economic situation is different, but not everyone is out for your money so be patient and give them the benefit of the doubt.
OaklandDoughboy
QUOTE(SexualMustard @ Apr 27 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]3665656[/snapback]
makes me think twice sometimes about visiting Vietnam and meeting relatives. Being born and raised in the states, my only family is my immediate family--mother, father, and 2 siblings. One uncle did come over later in my life, though. But I've never met any grandparents, cousins, aunts, or any other uncles. I sometimes fear that once I make that connection, they might be harassing me for the rest of my life for my money. I don't mind helping out family--I just don't want "family" to be an excuse to try to squeeze every penny out of me.



See that's what I mean by the hate and love relationship. You worded the dilema so well. I feel like that sometimes and I've already met all of my relatives. But trust me , you should go back and visit your family especially your grandparents. You know if they die at least you can say to yourself when you had the chance , you did actually got to meet them. I know my post sounded like I'm getting scammed left and right but it's not like that when your back here. Your relatives that love you for you makes it more than worth the trip. I have a deep profound love for the people that care about me back there. And I keep in touch when I get back to the states because those people really do love you and you can tell because they don't want to bring any burden on you.

When you go back for your first time, i promise you, you will get hustle by one of your family member. Whether it's for a big amount or a small amount, it's going to happen. But that's their loss cause when u see it, you ain't going to let it happen again and you keep a cool distance with them and that's how i deal with those hustling relatives. If you're Vietnamese and you've never been back to Vietnam. I really think you're missing out. Right when you touch down in Saigon , you'll be hot and so juiced when you just look in the street and see that it's filled with all Vietnamese people. It makes you feel at home . And yeah like tinman said give people the benefit of the doubt, don't go by heresay from other people. You'll love Vietnam. Everytime I go back I love it more and more.
SniFinButta
Nigga wearing tightpants and $hit.
OaklandDoughboy
QUOTE(SniFinButta @ Apr 28 2008, 01:30 AM) [snapback]3665965[/snapback]
Nigga wearing tightpants and $hit.



Reported troll
SexualMustard
thanks for the advice, OaklandDoughboy and Tinman....I will most likely visit VN; I didn't mean to make it sound like I would never go because of pure suspicions. But thanks for understanding icon_smile.gif


Happy Asian
QUOTE(qwe123 @ Apr 27 2008, 03:21 AM) [snapback]3662552[/snapback]
same goes for the VNCH when they took my grandpa land and sold it
Ngo Dinh Diem took his land and gave them away to northern refugees
he later used his own money to buy them back
where was the shame then pal??
and believe my grandpa was not the only one...
VNCH officials back then were just as corrupted as the VC of today

Don't waste your time with those VNCH cocksuckers, b!tching and moaning about VC corruption every year on April 30 is the only thing they're capable of doing. When you ask those dogs about their beloved VNCH cowardly leaders, they will tell you the VNCH system was just and incorruptible as if the dead state of South VietNam was some happy la la land.
Happy Asian
QUOTE(OaklandDoughboy @ Apr 26 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]3661153[/snapback]
I've been scammed by the old " your grandmother is sick and you need to give her money for the bills." or the more recent ones "lets buy some real estate property and make a big profit" and then you find out your relatives forge a fake document with your signature to take over your investments. I guess I'm here venting my anger ,but I'm here to find out how many of you go through the same things. My parents use to argue about what money but as I've gotten older and our situation has gotten way better. I was hurt at first but am over it because the positives outweigh the negatives. The grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, nieces, and nephews that really love me for me and not my money makes me feel better than winning the lottery. And when it comes down to it all that matters is family.
But how many of you have had the hustling cousin, aunt, uncle, or even grandparents hustle u and what did u do and how did u get over it? I would love to know what you all have experience?

laugh.gif That "your grandmother is sick" scam is the oldest trick in the book! In the last few months my uncle (my dad's older brother) is trying to scam money from us by claiming that one or two of his children has been sick, and he badly need $$$$ for the treatment. Apart from that scam other scams would usually include college fees or some new business venture.
spicy
QUOTE(Happy Asian @ Apr 28 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]3666154[/snapback]
Don't waste your time with those VNCH cocksuckers, b!tching and moaning about VC corruption every year on April 30 is the only thing they're capable of doing. When you ask those dogs about their beloved VNCH cowardly leaders, they will tell you the VNCH system was just and incorruptible as if the dead state of South VietNam was some happy la la land.


too bad, thats the only thing you and him do! duh!
OaklandDoughboy
QUOTE(Happy Asian @ Apr 28 2008, 04:26 AM) [snapback]3666168[/snapback]
laugh.gif That "your grandmother is sick" scam is the oldest trick in the book! In the last few months my uncle (my dad's older brother) is trying to scam money from us by claiming that one or two of his children has been sick, and he badly need $$$$ for the treatment. Apart from that scam other scams would usually include college fees or some new business venture.



U coming with a lot of vengence, makes me wonder if you're Vietnamese or a troll. Anyway I brought up this subject cause my Chinese, El Salvadorian, Nigerian, and Mexican patna brought this up. They all have the same thing happening to them, only in different circumstances, it just includes help with some money from the States to make it happen.


But I can't stand people like you, because you just sound like you're a troll.
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