There was a comment in another thread about how it would be funny if a certain Viet member found out he was part Chinese, so that prompted me to ask this question.

If I want to talk pure technicality, I'm sure I have some non-Kinh in me since we were all descendents of people from Africa. Heck, I even read an article how the first Chinese were actually Negritos (I made sure to send this link to emperor since he always talks about his "superior" han genes...lmfao http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalvi...irstchinese.htm ). What I'm trying to say is, none of us are really full this or full that. But practically speaking, we can exclude the 1/500th of our non-Kinh blood from this conversation. So for those who so far knows they're full Kinhs, what if you found out a significant side of you is actually not Kinh? For example, you find out your great-grandmother was half Chinese, so that would make you 1/16th Chinese. Or whether that non-Kinh side of you is Laotian, Cambodian, Hmong, whatever....the same question applies: would that change how you view yourself?

As for me personally, I've wondered whether I'm actually part Chinese or Cham myself. I'm a Pham, and I've heard that the Phams were actually Chams; but I knew that rumor was made up to flame Byron by a Cambodian so I didn't take it seriously...but I still entertained the thought of being part Cham. One thing I thought about was, how would I feel towards the Vietnamese if my great^7-grandfather was a proud Cham who was forced to assimulate into Viet Nam because Viet Nam destroyed his civilization. I placed myself in that scenario and I really don't think I would care much about my Cham blood that much and my loyalty lies 100% with my Kinh blood. On one hand, I would feel slightly ashamed for not staying true to my roots, but on the other hand, my real root is Vietnamese regardless, since I would be mostly Viet and it was a Vietnamese upbringing that raised me. But like I said, Phams descending from the Cham civilization was just a rumor and there were actually Phams in VN before the Cham civilization was assimulated...so I'm sure I'm not part Cham.

As for the possibility of me being part Chinese...I just have small eyes like them while most of my family have larger eyes, so that made me wonder if I'm part Chinese where the smaller eye gene only happened to turn dominant in me; but other than that, I haven't really come across any evidences that I'm part Chinese besides my drawing conclusions from weak correlations. But if I found out I was part Chinese for sure, the answer would be the same as the above.

I feel I should specifically state that I don't see anything wrong with being part this or part that - my reason for making this thread is that I'm just curious as to how people would react if they grew up believing one thing while finding out later that it wasn't true. Like I said, if I were to find out I'm actually part non-Kinh, it probably wouldn't change the fact that I view myself as a Vietnamese first and foremost, but I would keep in the back of my mind that non-Kinh side of me.



By the way, YARMoN stands for "Yet Another Random Musing of Nero." For those who've been here for a while, you've noticed that I tend to share my random wonderings and thoughts

Wow that'd like totally blow my mind like, Being. Part. Chinese. my god, the years of saying,"I'mma go jackie chan on yo @ss " has not been to waste!! and then, i'd wear a shirt with "Kiss me, I'm Chinese" in large black font and then i'd go to chinatown and be like,"xie xie all my brothers" sweet. i'm gonna ask my mom now

If my blood was 100% Chinese, it doesn't change the fact that my heart is 100% Viet. If i found out today that i have absolutely no Viet blood in me, and that i was fully Chiense, and it just so happens that Vietnam and China has another war. Killing Chinese to protect my motherland wouldn't bother me one bit.

Truth is, no one is full. You can consider yourself full if you know as a fact that you're 100% Viet on all sides of your family as far as memory serves or family records. Other than that you can't speculate too much, or you'll just end up being loyal to Nigeria instead of Vietnam. Because truth is, we all came from Africa at one time millions of years ago. We have our loyalties now.

Lol....let us know what she says.

My maternal grandfather keeps a very good record of our family history, and I'm going to make a formal family tree when I get the time so I'm going to know for sure my Kinh status for quite a few generations back..at least for my mom's side.



Yup, same here


NIGERIAN PRIDE!

There is no way that I am not full Viet [for God's sake, exclude the 1/5000th non-Kinh blood].

I am sure that I am full Viet, there's no way on Earth that I am part Chinese, Khmer, Japanese, or anything that's non-Kinh.

But if I found out that I am part Chinese, then I'd cry for 1 second and continue on with my life being 100% Viet.

HEY !! my mom said my grandma's grandpa married a 1/4th chinese dude. What is up all mah Chinese brothers (in law)

Lol...you crack me up you wanna-be wigger. Oh wait, you would be a chigger, wouldn't you?

Anyway, if your grandma's grandpa married a 1/4th Chinese guy, wouldn't that make you part Chinese, as opposed to part Chinese-in-law?

If his grandma's GRANDPA married a part Chinese dude, then his grandma would be adopted. Homos can't procreate.

Genius. pure genius :genius:

Hahaha. HOneslty i wouldn't careless. I am who i am! That's the most important factor.

wuzup my 1/4 chinese brother..and i'm not in law

Oh geez, I didn't even catch that part. Skittles, did your great great grandpa actually married another guy or was that just a joke or typo?

I don't see how it would change anything. If all of a sudden I found out that one of my ancestor was a cham, heck makes that a cham king, I still wouldn't care. I'm not going to betrayed my other 99% ancestors for one that I barely know about.

I don't look down on other races, so it's not like I'm going to turn all crazy. Tell that to the chinese on this forums, I remember someone telling a story on here about a chinese dude that went to japan and put down the Vietnamese people, then the japanese dude saying that the Vietnamese is proud race for not fallen to a powerful China for a 1000 years, and that made the chinese dude ashamed because he was a southern chinese, decendants of the min yue.

This situation would be different if all of a sudden I found out I was 100% of another race, because then I would have nothing to connect with Vietnam, making me a lost cause, and only then would I go crazy. But I'm very sure I'm Vietnamese, both of my family side came from North Vietnam recently, and they all have very typical Vietnamese last name.

I'll go and hang myself if I'd find out that I'm not full Viet.

Oh actually, I knew I'm only 1/2 Viet since my early years. Damn my death is long overdue

I would be somewhat surprised.

LMAO!!!

I wouldn't mind at all.

fresh so clean clean.. u are talking at vietnamese point of view..if u were chinese u won't think that way..
and someone is invading China it is not gonna happen at our lifetime..

i would of said if i'm 100% fulled blood vietnamese, but my heart still 100% of chinese..i don't care how vietnamese die..they are on their own..bye bye hahahah

Errhh... didn't I read somewhere that you said you have Viet blood or used to live in Vietnam or something?

I'm talking about atm. If i suddenly found out i was Chinese blooded. My heart would be Viet still, no matter what.

I think what you're talking about is being RAISED Chinese. If i was raised Chinese, then i would be Chinese of course. But i wasn't, i was raised Viet, and so, because of that, even if i do turn out Chinese it doesn't change the fact that my loyalties are always with Vietnam... then Canada.

You said point of VIew, that's from how you're raised. Point of View doesn't involve blood mostly, usually how you're raised.

If that's true, the Chinese can still have him

what the hell is this crap???

i will kill myself if i found out i had some chinese blood in me

Lolz u guys are too...........passionate about your Viet Pride. Man i would worry if i know that my parent ain't my real parent. But having a simple change of ethnicity isn't sucha big deal.

i just found out a minute ago that i am a full-blooded kinh. i should change my sn to ChuonCheat_Yuon. :genius:

Lolz. Viets don't call them selve kinh nor do they call them self Yuon...

hes just a dumb@ss

as you can see, i try not to sink down to his level.

what's this about the south chinese being the descendents of or are the same as what???

lost here...sorry...

South Chinese are mongoloids and are same as the North chinese.

well i've always thought that, especially since the history books (that i've read anyway), the official dna card of the southern chinese such as the cantonese, and the features of my southern chinese friends all say HAN!!!

it's odd how so many people keep making some link between the southern chinese and the vietnamese...

Catonese are Han.

[QUOTE]I read on this Khmer website that in 1954, after Indepedance was achieved, the Vietminh would steal Khmer babies and train them to be Khmer Rouge and kill other Khmers and would make them grow up believing they are Vietnamese and not Khmer.

Hmmmm my dad was born in 1952 and my mom in 1954. Maybe I'm a son of one of those Cambodians who were raised by the Vietnamese government to take over Cambodia. [QUOTE]

That would explaind why ure so darkskinned hahahaha

Ok

i'd rather be blind and assume i'm full

can a nice person donate some blood so i can finally say i have some chinese in me. it'd be a real honor

you know injecting blood into ya viens can really cause serious problem.

hey, you never know unless ya do it. ready to become blood brothers cuong?

There was a comment in another thread about how it would be funny if a certain guy found out he was part girl, so that prompted me to ask this question.

If I want to talk pure technicality, I'm sure I have some girl in me since we were all descendents of people who were girls. Heck, I even read an article how the first girl was actually a guy, with one less rib. What I'm trying to say is, none of us are really full this or full that. But practically speaking, we can exclude the 1/500th of our non-male blood from this conversation. So for those who so far knows they're full males, what if you found out a significant side of you is actually not male? For example, you find out your great-grandmother was half lesbian, so that would make you 1/16th lesbian. Or whether that non-male side of you is gay, bi-sexual, trans-sexual, whatever....the same question applies: would that change how you view yourself?

As for me personally, I've wondered whether I'm actually part female or gay myself. I'm a guy, and I've heard that guys were actually gays; but I knew that rumor was made up by a feminist so I didn't take it seriously...but I still entertained the thought of being part gay. One thing I thought about was, how would I feel towards men if my great-grandfather was a proud homosexual who was forced to assimulate into heterosexuality because conservatives destroyed his civilization. I placed myself in that scenario and I really don't think I would care much about my gay blood that much and my loyalty lies 100% with my manly blood. On one hand, I would feel slightly ashamed for not staying true to my roots, but on the other hand, my real root is maleness regardless, since I would be mostly male and it was a male upbringing that raised me. But like I said, guys descending from the gays was just a rumor and there were actually guys on earth before gays were assimulated...so I'm sure I'm not part gay.

As for the possibility of me being part female...I just have a small penis like them while most of my family have larger penises, so that made me wonder if I'm part female where the smaller penis only happened to turn dominant in me; but other than that, I haven't really come across any evidences that I'm part female besides my drawing conclusions from weak correlations. But if I found out I was part female for sure, the answer would be the same as the above.

I feel I should specifically state that I don't see anything wrong with being part this or part that - my reason for making this thread is that I'm just curious as to how people would react if they grew up believing one thing while finding out later that it wasn't true. Like I said, if I were to find out I'm actually part female, it probably wouldn't change the fact that I view myself as a male first and foremost, but I would keep in the back of my mind that non-male side of me.


By the way, YARMoN stands for "Yet Another Random Muttering of Nero." For those who've been here for a while, you've noticed that I tend to share my random wonderings and thoughts.

oh reallY./ here is mine..
if i found out i have viet blood in my families.. i will kill all of them.. plus my self.. how about that..haha

how can you kill blood that's inside of you. like, are you gonna drain it out lol

Oh yeah, uh well if I had Chinese blood in me, I would uh, chant TAIWAN INDEPENDANCE!!! Joking.

No you should change your name to ChuonCheat_mein

i find that incredibly funny for some reason
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA roflmao

that's such bad luck dude. im about to kill myself because i though im one of those phonamese rat walking around but then my grand-parent explain to me everything. i was born in prake rasey(can tho) to khmer and chinese ancestors, what a relieved.

i will tell a woman to suck it out.. haha just joking.. u such childish

Oh god saved the Viets from you being in our gene pool. Thank god. You being in our gene pool only lowers the calibre of our men and women, now i feel sorry for the Chinese, they have you in their gene pool.

Jeez, damn racist.

Back to original question, I don't care really.

wowww...i don't know about all this...but i know i have some chinese blood in me..and i'm darn proud of it...3/4 viet...1/4 chinese....lolz....

if u say Viets have some Chinese in them... than I'm Vietnamese, Korean(ese), and Chinese!...

Viet+Korean+Chinese= KoVietinese