http://vny2k.net/vny2k/SiniticVietnamese.htm
This is a very well researched paper, analyzing Vietnamese language.
It will take you whole day if you read everything carefully.
Full Version: What makes Vietnamese so Chinese ?
You need to read more before jumping to the conclusion so quickly.
http://www.vietspring.org/legend/ancient.html
Vietnamese in the ancient time
1. Origin of the Vietnamese people
Scholars have been constructing many hypotheses on the origin of the Vietnamese people. Some believed that Vietnamese belonged to a group of "Bach Viet" (one hundred clans of Viet) living in a wide region spreading from the delta of the Yang-tse kiang river to the South - south of China nowadays. One of them was the Lac Viet clan whose people practiced fishing and often went over to the sea. Each year, when the north wind came and blew south they crossed the sea to the southern side and sometimes reached the Indonesian islands. In their trips they got acquainted with a kind of bird named "Lac" - a kind of swan - and made it their totem. Their choice explained the name Lac Viet attributed to their clan. Around 333 BC, when Chinese invaded the area south of the Yang-tse-kiang river, the Lac Viet clan migrated to the South and settled in the area where the Melanesians were living and built up their nation, which has become Vietnam.
The hypothesis that Vietnamese were "children of the dragon and grand children of the fairy" has always been cherished by the Vietnamese people through centuries. It based its logic on myths, legends and folklore transmitted from generation to generation. A great number of historians and writers in the past backed this hypothesis in their research and writing. According to it, the Vietnamese took their origin from a bag of one hundred eggs born out by Au Co, a fairy married to a dragon, Lac Long Quan, the king of the Under-sea. The couple was separated sometime after their marriage, and Au Co led their fifty sons to the upland where they built a new nation according to the legend mentioned earlier. Those people were the ancestors of the Vietnamese.
2. Social structure and characteristics of ancient Vietnam
The ancient Vietnamese society was matrilineal and without class. The groom dwelt with his wife's family. Kinh Duong Vuong once married to Long Nu - princess of the under-sea -- had to live with his wife in the under-water kingdom. Lac Long Quan, their son, lived with his mother. When he married Au Co, he would have had to live with her at her dwelling on land according to the custom. But he didn't have this intention so Au Co had to leave him and led half of their children away.
The ancient society was without class; there were no masters nor slaves. The relation between its people was the kinship relation. A system of extended family had been applied and sustained over centuries, from the time the Vietnamese people still lived in tribes to the time they built a nation. They called each other by the role in the family, such as grandfather and grandmother, father and mother, uncle and aunt, brother and sister, even when they didn't belong to the same line of blood. This is a custom that did not exist in other societies.
3. Customs and practice
Ancient Vietnamese used to decorate their body either by painting or tattooing. They were fishermen and had to dive deep into the sea to catch fishes or to look for marine foods. They were often attacked by submarine monsters and complained it to King Hung who advised them to decorate their body so as to make them similar to the monsters' coat and, by doing so, to avoid their attacks. From this time the practice of decorating the body began and ended only in the year 1299 AD under the Tran dynasty.
Ancient Vietnamese had their hair cut short, probably to allow them swimming and living more easily in the sea. They wore short garment with the flap closing to the left, but during festival time they wore a hat made of feathers and a long skirt decorated with strips hanging in the bottom and danced.
Their houses were constructed on piles with the ridge of the roof curved and projected out of the gable on each side. The top of the houses were decorated with figures of birds. Their boats were long and a little curved with the front part raising high and decorated with the head of a bird.
4. Concluding remarks
According to the legends, the old Vietnam territory spread farther to the North into the delta of the Yang-tse-kiang river. This nation was called Xích Qui and its ruler was Kinh Duong Vuong, the father of Lac Long Quan. They later moved south and built a new country named Væn Lang with King Hung the first, the eldest son of Lac Long Quan and also the founder of the Vietnamese nation. The dynasty of Hong Bàng marked a period for the tribe "Lac Viet" to gather and prosper. Those people hold firmly their territory and fight back against any invasion from China. Although the Chinese domination had taken place over one thousand years, it could not subdue them. They continued their own culture and many times rose up against the Chinese administration until the time they got rid of this domination in the year 939 AD in a decisive battle on the Bach ñ¢ng river. The history of Vietnam has long been a history of struggle with the Chinese imperialism, a two-pronged struggle, to avoid annexation and to avoid acculturation.
Today, on the tenth of the third month of the lunar year, Vietnamese celebrate the anniversary of death of King Hung to bestow their gratitude to an ancestor who had educated them and saved them from the threat of extermination from outside invaders.
The ancient folklore of country promote the value of relationships within the family, between fathers and sons, between brothers and sisters, and between husbands and wives. People placed sacrificed their individual rights for the common harmony. Loc Tuc gave up his thrown for the benefit of his elder brother. Au Co was separated with her husband but still kept intact love and feeling. To compare this value to many legendary tales of other countries that are full of hatred and killing within family, one must acknowledge their positive effects on the people.
On the psychological side, the legend of King Hung and folk-tales served as a strong support for the Vietnamese people to get over the complex of being treated as uncivilized as the Chinese often foisted to their neighboring countries. The Vietnamese took their origin from a dragon - the leading of the four sacred animals - and a fairy symbolized by the bird they chose as their totem - a bird called "Lac" or "Hong", a kind of swan or sea bird, whose familiar figure decorated their dwelling.
Even though the legend of King Hung might sometimes be deemed as fictional story transmitted orally over centuries and subjected to possible distortions, it could at least help the Vietnamese to better understand their ancestors. At least, the strong will of their ancestors to overcome the threat of Chinese acculturation merits to be engraved for ever into their collective memory.
http://www.vietspring.org/legend/ancient.html
Vietnamese in the ancient time
1. Origin of the Vietnamese people
Scholars have been constructing many hypotheses on the origin of the Vietnamese people. Some believed that Vietnamese belonged to a group of "Bach Viet" (one hundred clans of Viet) living in a wide region spreading from the delta of the Yang-tse kiang river to the South - south of China nowadays. One of them was the Lac Viet clan whose people practiced fishing and often went over to the sea. Each year, when the north wind came and blew south they crossed the sea to the southern side and sometimes reached the Indonesian islands. In their trips they got acquainted with a kind of bird named "Lac" - a kind of swan - and made it their totem. Their choice explained the name Lac Viet attributed to their clan. Around 333 BC, when Chinese invaded the area south of the Yang-tse-kiang river, the Lac Viet clan migrated to the South and settled in the area where the Melanesians were living and built up their nation, which has become Vietnam.
The hypothesis that Vietnamese were "children of the dragon and grand children of the fairy" has always been cherished by the Vietnamese people through centuries. It based its logic on myths, legends and folklore transmitted from generation to generation. A great number of historians and writers in the past backed this hypothesis in their research and writing. According to it, the Vietnamese took their origin from a bag of one hundred eggs born out by Au Co, a fairy married to a dragon, Lac Long Quan, the king of the Under-sea. The couple was separated sometime after their marriage, and Au Co led their fifty sons to the upland where they built a new nation according to the legend mentioned earlier. Those people were the ancestors of the Vietnamese.
2. Social structure and characteristics of ancient Vietnam
The ancient Vietnamese society was matrilineal and without class. The groom dwelt with his wife's family. Kinh Duong Vuong once married to Long Nu - princess of the under-sea -- had to live with his wife in the under-water kingdom. Lac Long Quan, their son, lived with his mother. When he married Au Co, he would have had to live with her at her dwelling on land according to the custom. But he didn't have this intention so Au Co had to leave him and led half of their children away.
The ancient society was without class; there were no masters nor slaves. The relation between its people was the kinship relation. A system of extended family had been applied and sustained over centuries, from the time the Vietnamese people still lived in tribes to the time they built a nation. They called each other by the role in the family, such as grandfather and grandmother, father and mother, uncle and aunt, brother and sister, even when they didn't belong to the same line of blood. This is a custom that did not exist in other societies.
3. Customs and practice
Ancient Vietnamese used to decorate their body either by painting or tattooing. They were fishermen and had to dive deep into the sea to catch fishes or to look for marine foods. They were often attacked by submarine monsters and complained it to King Hung who advised them to decorate their body so as to make them similar to the monsters' coat and, by doing so, to avoid their attacks. From this time the practice of decorating the body began and ended only in the year 1299 AD under the Tran dynasty.
Ancient Vietnamese had their hair cut short, probably to allow them swimming and living more easily in the sea. They wore short garment with the flap closing to the left, but during festival time they wore a hat made of feathers and a long skirt decorated with strips hanging in the bottom and danced.
Their houses were constructed on piles with the ridge of the roof curved and projected out of the gable on each side. The top of the houses were decorated with figures of birds. Their boats were long and a little curved with the front part raising high and decorated with the head of a bird.
4. Concluding remarks
According to the legends, the old Vietnam territory spread farther to the North into the delta of the Yang-tse-kiang river. This nation was called Xích Qui and its ruler was Kinh Duong Vuong, the father of Lac Long Quan. They later moved south and built a new country named Væn Lang with King Hung the first, the eldest son of Lac Long Quan and also the founder of the Vietnamese nation. The dynasty of Hong Bàng marked a period for the tribe "Lac Viet" to gather and prosper. Those people hold firmly their territory and fight back against any invasion from China. Although the Chinese domination had taken place over one thousand years, it could not subdue them. They continued their own culture and many times rose up against the Chinese administration until the time they got rid of this domination in the year 939 AD in a decisive battle on the Bach ñ¢ng river. The history of Vietnam has long been a history of struggle with the Chinese imperialism, a two-pronged struggle, to avoid annexation and to avoid acculturation.
Today, on the tenth of the third month of the lunar year, Vietnamese celebrate the anniversary of death of King Hung to bestow their gratitude to an ancestor who had educated them and saved them from the threat of extermination from outside invaders.
The ancient folklore of country promote the value of relationships within the family, between fathers and sons, between brothers and sisters, and between husbands and wives. People placed sacrificed their individual rights for the common harmony. Loc Tuc gave up his thrown for the benefit of his elder brother. Au Co was separated with her husband but still kept intact love and feeling. To compare this value to many legendary tales of other countries that are full of hatred and killing within family, one must acknowledge their positive effects on the people.
On the psychological side, the legend of King Hung and folk-tales served as a strong support for the Vietnamese people to get over the complex of being treated as uncivilized as the Chinese often foisted to their neighboring countries. The Vietnamese took their origin from a dragon - the leading of the four sacred animals - and a fairy symbolized by the bird they chose as their totem - a bird called "Lac" or "Hong", a kind of swan or sea bird, whose familiar figure decorated their dwelling.
Even though the legend of King Hung might sometimes be deemed as fictional story transmitted orally over centuries and subjected to possible distortions, it could at least help the Vietnamese to better understand their ancestors. At least, the strong will of their ancestors to overcome the threat of Chinese acculturation merits to be engraved for ever into their collective memory.
Thank you for the link. I will check it out when I have more time. 
QUOTE(northstar @ Feb 26 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]3527697[/snapback]
http://vny2k.net/vny2k/SiniticVietnamese.htm
This is a very well researched paper, analyzing Vietnamese language.
It will take you whole day if you read everything carefully.
This is a very well researched paper, analyzing Vietnamese language.
It will take you whole day if you read everything carefully.
What's the point of this?
Do you want war or friendliness?
seriously no chinese would ever want to connect themself with vietnamese I dont know the reason ... its kinda strange. But that has something to do with vietnam as a vassal state of china long time ago, where prisoners are thrown there. I know its kinda fu-ked up how chinese dont mind vietnamese look like chinese but not vice versa.
QUOTE(Darkblade @ Feb 26 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]3528047[/snapback]
seriously no chinese would ever want to connect themself with vietnamese I dont know the reason ... its kinda strange. But that has something to do with vietnam as a vassal state of china long time ago, where prisoners are thrown there. I know its kinda fu-ked up how chinese dont mind vietnamese look like chinese but not vice versa.
If you have to belong to a group and rely on history to feel superior than you really have nothing to offer.
It's time to lock this old-school thread.
QUOTE(mynuong @ Feb 26 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]3528089[/snapback]
If you have to belong to a group and rely on history to feel superior than you really have nothing to offer.
well I dont feel that way but many who havent met actual "vietnamese" think so because where I came from is way far from the border of china/vietnam. HK-ers are more arrogant actually, they refuse to be connected with vietnamese and angry when they are mistaken for a vietnamese ... well most HK people that I know.
QUOTE(Darkblade @ Feb 26 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]3528141[/snapback]
well I dont feel that way but many who havent met actual "vietnamese" think so because where I came from is way far from the border of china/vietnam. HK-ers are more arrogant actually, they refuse to be connected with vietnamese and angry when they are mistaken for a vietnamese ... well most HK people that I know.
Good for you, so my statement do no apply to you, but to those who believe that.
I think it depends on the people we meet, I've met HK people who are very nice and does not care about any of that, and there are Vietnamese who are angry when they're mistaken for Chinese as well. I think it depends on the individuals.
according to Darkblade Chinese people is not happy when people say they look Vietnamese
but in my experience they go around and claim fair-skin-and-better-looking Vietnamese people to look Chinese all the time
Seriously all my Chinese friends claim that I and some other light-skin Viets in my school look Chinese whereas other Asians say we look purely Vietnamese.
isn't northstar, the starter of this topic, Chinese?
btw I'm quite familiar with that site. I don't think it's a well-analyzed paper on Vietnamese language.
but in my experience they go around and claim fair-skin-and-better-looking Vietnamese people to look Chinese all the time
Seriously all my Chinese friends claim that I and some other light-skin Viets in my school look Chinese whereas other Asians say we look purely Vietnamese.
isn't northstar, the starter of this topic, Chinese?
btw I'm quite familiar with that site. I don't think it's a well-analyzed paper on Vietnamese language.
why all the bickering ?
Did any of you actually read that research paper ?
It talks about the evolution and classification of the Vietnamese language.
It doesn't deal any ethnic stuff.
Did any of you actually read that research paper ?
It talks about the evolution and classification of the Vietnamese language.
It doesn't deal any ethnic stuff.
QUOTE(northstar @ Feb 26 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]3528335[/snapback]
why all the bickering ?
Did any of you actually read that research paper ?
It talks about the evolution and classification of the Vietnamese language.
It doesn't deal any ethnic stuff.
Did any of you actually read that research paper ?
It talks about the evolution and classification of the Vietnamese language.
It doesn't deal any ethnic stuff.
someone sent me that site before, I read it WAYYYY before you read it
^ good for u. would u like a cookie?
Xigon you ran out of photobucket bandwith
^ no I broke the link days ago because I wanted to leave the forum
but the picture on my avatar kept appearing until now
but the picture on my avatar kept appearing until now
:S
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Feb 27 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]3528325[/snapback]
according to Darkblade Chinese people is not happy when people say they look Vietnamese
but in my experience they go around and claim fair-skin-and-better-looking Vietnamese people to look Chinese all the time
Seriously all my Chinese friends claim that I and some other light-skin Viets in my school look Chinese whereas other Asians say we look purely Vietnamese.
isn't northstar, the starter of this topic, Chinese?
btw I'm quite familiar with that site. I don't think it's a well-analyzed paper on Vietnamese language.
but in my experience they go around and claim fair-skin-and-better-looking Vietnamese people to look Chinese all the time
Seriously all my Chinese friends claim that I and some other light-skin Viets in my school look Chinese whereas other Asians say we look purely Vietnamese.
isn't northstar, the starter of this topic, Chinese?
btw I'm quite familiar with that site. I don't think it's a well-analyzed paper on Vietnamese language.
Yes that is what I want to say exactly, you have better way to explain it than me. When youre light, they call you chinese, when youre dark they call you vietnamese. Especially chinese from my area who are ignorant about how vietnamese look, they think when youre light skinned you are chinese or southern chinese for detail. Hk people is sensitive about that .. I have asked a few students are you vietnamese ? and the respond is "Angry tone: Do I LOOK vietnamese ?" uh ... so sensitive ...
Asian is indeed related, such ignorance should be abolished .. well except the further south east asian like malay or cambo.
QUOTE(Darkblade @ Feb 27 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]3528602[/snapback]
Yes that is what I want to say exactly, you have better way to explain it than me. When youre light, they call you chinese, when youre dark they call you vietnamese. Especially chinese from my area who are ignorant about how vietnamese look, they think when youre light skinned you are chinese or southern chinese for detail. Hk people is sensitive about that .. I have asked a few students are you vietnamese ? and the respond is "Angry tone: Do I LOOK vietnamese ?" uh ... so sensitive ...
Asian is indeed related, such ignorance should be abolished .. well except the further south east asian like malay or cambo.
Asian is indeed related, such ignorance should be abolished .. well except the further south east asian like malay or cambo.
normally it is the HK chinese and the southeast asian chinese that are act that way.
incredibly, they are, not only in my opinion but also in my other asian friends including korean and japanese, among the most ugly chinese of all.
i guess the inferiority complex do express in one way or another.
QUOTE(Darkblade @ Feb 27 2008, 01:48 AM) [snapback]3528602[/snapback]
Yes that is what I want to say exactly, you have better way to explain it than me. When youre light, they call you chinese, when youre dark they call you vietnamese. Especially chinese from my area who are ignorant about how vietnamese look, they think when youre light skinned you are chinese or southern chinese for detail. Hk people is sensitive about that .. I have asked a few students are you vietnamese ? and the respond is "Angry tone: Do I LOOK vietnamese ?" uh ... so sensitive ...
Hong Kong was a colony of Britain but they had not learnt civility from the British. I agree, HK-ers are some of the most obnoxious people around. Here in London, when on public transport, they are among the loudest talkers (not saying that Vietnamese is better, but you know.. pot, kettle, black)
As for appearance, people's looks vary.
Example: I had a Vietnamese female friend and her Chinese friend in my car recently. The Viet friend was HOT as HELL, whilst the Chinese girl UGLY as SIN!
QUOTE(Englanda @ Feb 27 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]3528876[/snapback]
Hong Kong was a colony of Britain but they had not learnt civility from the British. I agree, HK-ers are some of the most obnoxious people around. Here in London, when on public transport, they are among the loudest talkers (not saying that Vietnamese is better, but you know.. pot, kettle, black)
As for appearance, people's looks vary.
Example: I had a Vietnamese female friend and her Chinese friend in my car recently. The Viet friend was HOT as HELL, whilst the Chinese girl UGLY as SIN!
As for appearance, people's looks vary.
Example: I had a Vietnamese female friend and her Chinese friend in my car recently. The Viet friend was HOT as HELL, whilst the Chinese girl UGLY as SIN!
Its not wether they are ugly or not, most chinese just dont like to be associated with SE asian even with the hot ones ... Especially for the southern chinese that lives close to the border of vietnam/china such as HK. Taiwan people usually dont have this problem since they are quite easly distinguis-hable from viet I guess, they look kinda different. And remember its not the skin, alot of filipino lao thai and viet are fair skinned ... something about SE asian facial features or the "southern barbarian" mentality either one I don't know myself.
As non Vietnamese and a non Chinese
(I am Greek Australian)
the Viets look Chinese and have Chinese culture.
What was Tet about for example
Moon Cakes
Vietnamese culture came from China ,Budhism and Confucism.
Onlt Catholics and Vietnamese writing came from the Europeans.
Vietnamese did not even invent their own writing for god sake.
(I am Greek Australian)
the Viets look Chinese and have Chinese culture.
What was Tet about for example
Moon Cakes
Vietnamese culture came from China ,Budhism and Confucism.
Onlt Catholics and Vietnamese writing came from the Europeans.
Vietnamese did not even invent their own writing for god sake.
QUOTE(Phonecard @ Feb 27 2008, 07:05 AM) [snapback]3528891[/snapback]
As non Vietnamese and a non Chinese
(I am Greek Australian)
the Viets look Chinese and have Chinese culture.
What was Tet about for example
Moon Cakes
Vietnamese culture came from China ,Budhism and Confucism.
Onlt Catholics and Vietnamese writing came from the Europeans.
Vietnamese did not even invent their own writing for god sake.
(I am Greek Australian)
the Viets look Chinese and have Chinese culture.
What was Tet about for example
Moon Cakes
Vietnamese culture came from China ,Budhism and Confucism.
Onlt Catholics and Vietnamese writing came from the Europeans.
Vietnamese did not even invent their own writing for god sake.
You cruel bastard, you made me cry by saying hurtful things like Vietnamese did not even invent their own writing for god sake
Yeah, Chinese invented a brilliant writing system, and recently invented Pinyin to make it brillianter!
The English, arguably the most intelligent and creative people on Earth, invented the English alphabet we are all using now. Yeah?
when my relatives talk about "nguoi tau," they use the same tone of voice when they talk about "dirty" people, like gangsters or the homeless.
QUOTE(Darkblade @ Feb 27 2008, 02:48 AM) [snapback]3528602[/snapback]
.. I have asked a few students are you vietnamese ? and the respond is "Angry tone: Do I LOOK vietnamese ?" uh ... so sensitive ...
OMG I asked the same question and got the same response.
QUOTE(Phonecard @ Feb 27 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]3528891[/snapback]
As non Vietnamese and a non Chinese
(I am Greek Australian)
the Viets look Chinese and have Chinese culture.
What was Tet about for example
Moon Cakes
Vietnamese culture came from China ,Budhism and Confucism.
Onlt Catholics and Vietnamese writing came from the Europeans.
Vietnamese did not even invent their own writing for god sake.
(I am Greek Australian)
the Viets look Chinese and have Chinese culture.
What was Tet about for example
Moon Cakes
Vietnamese culture came from China ,Budhism and Confucism.
Onlt Catholics and Vietnamese writing came from the Europeans.
Vietnamese did not even invent their own writing for god sake.
arrogant bastard
easy...
you look at there eye...
who agreee?
you look at there eye...
who agreee?
People look the ya they do coz of their environment their ancestors settled in. Cut the bull$hit folks.
one of you idiot my say: " But Genome, Vietnamese people have the same slitty eyes as the Chinese, therefore, they're copying ! LOL!!!!1"
Yeah, they also copying crooked teeth, pissy yellow skin, and I guess they copying that from the Chinese, too, huh? But then those are considered "bad" quality so you wouldn't want to claim it since you're a moron and biases at the same time. Take your fu-king head out of your @$$ and maybe you can upgrade your status from a fu-king stupid moron to a dumb @$$ b!tch.
one of you idiot my say: " But Genome, Vietnamese people have the same slitty eyes as the Chinese, therefore, they're copying ! LOL!!!!1"
Yeah, they also copying crooked teeth, pissy yellow skin, and I guess they copying that from the Chinese, too, huh? But then those are considered "bad" quality so you wouldn't want to claim it since you're a moron and biases at the same time. Take your fu-king head out of your @$$ and maybe you can upgrade your status from a fu-king stupid moron to a dumb @$$ b!tch.
Yes Vietnamese are copying Chinese!
Everyday i wake and think how lucky I am that I can relate to 1 billion Chinese people and how lucky we are to have communism like them and no human rights.
Don't forget cheap labour and pollution.
I must now target the Chinese porn industry since you guys can't make porn for $hit
Everyday i wake and think how lucky I am that I can relate to 1 billion Chinese people and how lucky we are to have communism like them and no human rights.
Don't forget cheap labour and pollution.
I must now target the Chinese porn industry since you guys can't make porn for $hit
QUOTE(Darkblade @ Feb 26 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]3528602[/snapback]
Yes that is what I want to say exactly, you have better way to explain it than me. When youre light, they call you chinese, when youre dark they call you vietnamese. Especially chinese from my area who are ignorant about how vietnamese look, they think when youre light skinned you are chinese or southern chinese for detail. Hk people is sensitive about that .. I have asked a few students are you vietnamese ? and the respond is "Angry tone: Do I LOOK vietnamese ?" uh ... so sensitive ...
Asian is indeed related, such ignorance should be abolished .. well except the further south east asian like malay or cambo.
Asian is indeed related, such ignorance should be abolished .. well except the further south east asian like malay or cambo.
There are indeed many tan-skin chinese out there but they just don't go claim tan-skin Vietnamese to look Chinese even when that tan-skin individual looks a whole lot more like Chinese than the other fair-skin Vietnamese.
I think it's the tendency of people to claim whom they think is better looking to look like the people of their own ethnic.
Exhaustive list but interesting nonetheless. :O
QUOTE(Englanda @ Feb 27 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]3528943[/snapback]
You cruel bastard, you made me cry by saying hurtful things like Vietnamese did not even invent their own writing for god sake
Yeah, Chinese invented a brilliant writing system, and recently invented Pinyin to make it brillianter!
The English, arguably the most intelligent and creative people on Earth, invented the English alphabet we are all using now. Yeah?
Yeah, Chinese invented a brilliant writing system, and recently invented Pinyin to make it brillianter!
The English, arguably the most intelligent and creative people on Earth, invented the English alphabet we are all using now. Yeah?
He's a fu-king greek. All greeks are scum. Never met one I didn't want to shoot in the head.
When people ask if my friends are chinese, the normal respond is "do i SMELL chinese!"
QUOTE(VietPunk @ Feb 28 2008, 04:48 AM) [snapback]3530923[/snapback]
When people ask if my friends are chinese, the normal respond is "do i SMELL chinese!"
HAHAHAH WTF!!!
that sh$t fu-k up!!!
QUOTE(VietPunk @ Feb 28 2008, 04:48 AM) [snapback]3530923[/snapback]
When people ask if my friends are chinese, the normal respond is "do i SMELL chinese!"
Nominate this Reply of the Week ?
infact, from now on, we should have a thread to celebrate the Thread of the week, and Reply of the Week !
QUOTE
He's a fu-king greek. All greeks are scum. Never met one I didn't want to shoot in the head.
They did invent/create a lot of things, tho.
Including man-on-man loving, which included man-on-boy loving (technically paedophilia)
QUOTE(GenomVirues @ Feb 27 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]3529462[/snapback]
People look the ya they do coz of their environment their ancestors settled in.
But then those are considered "bad" quality so you wouldn't want to claim it since you're a moron and biases at the same time.
But then those are considered "bad" quality so you wouldn't want to claim it since you're a moron and biases at the same time.
doesn't matter. just because you look at human traits from the viewpoint of adaptiveness in nature, doesn't mean that everyone else can't have preferences.
we Viet are not dog you SOB
For all those who have ago at us Greeks then
Well some one tell me what is Vietnamese Culture then
Any Mathematicians
Any great thinkers
Any great Buildings
C'mon then
Well some one tell me what is Vietnamese Culture then
Any Mathematicians
Any great thinkers
Any great Buildings
C'mon then
QUOTE(Phonecard @ Mar 1 2008, 05:57 AM) [snapback]3534380[/snapback]
For all those who have ago at us Greeks then
Well some one tell me what is Vietnamese Culture then
Any Mathematicians
Any great thinkers
Any great Buildings
C'mon then
Well some one tell me what is Vietnamese Culture then
Any Mathematicians
Any great thinkers
Any great Buildings
C'mon then
Cambodian trolls roaming all over in Chinese Chat as well.
My Turkish homie told me Greek always brags like children, living in the limited past world of theirs where there are no Himalaya (oh, until some Everest stepped on it). And now they are like belittled kids living by those concepts defined by their Anglo-Saxon masters.
Independence for Kosovo.
What is greek? That would be the response from 99.9% of the Vietnamese people when they hear the word "greek".
it sounds like geek 
QUOTE(Phonecard @ Feb 29 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]3534380[/snapback]
For all those who have ago at us Greeks then
Well some one tell me what is Vietnamese Culture then
Any Mathematicians
Any great thinkers
Any great Buildings
C'mon then
Well some one tell me what is Vietnamese Culture then
Any Mathematicians
Any great thinkers
Any great Buildings
C'mon then
I usually avoid commenting on topic such as these, but that comment is just so pitiful....
Your comparison and assumption on other ethnic groups are pathetic, for you to dwell on your past ancestry achievement and not having achieved anything yourself is nothing to brag about. Your main priority should be focused on the future, for the past has passed and the future is what's important and what defines us...
QUOTE(Phonecard @ Feb 29 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]3534380[/snapback]
For all those who have ago at us Greeks then
Well some one tell me what is Vietnamese Culture then
Any Mathematicians
Any great thinkers
Any great Buildings
C'mon then
Well some one tell me what is Vietnamese Culture then
Any Mathematicians
Any great thinkers
Any great Buildings
C'mon then
Are you sure that you are a Greek from the ancient Greece? As you may know that Europe today is not the same Europe it was 2000 years ago.
QUOTE(tofuG @ Feb 29 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]3535132[/snapback]
I usually avoid commenting on topic such as these, but that comment is just so pitiful....
Your comparison and assumption on other ethnic groups are pathetic, for you to dwell on your past ancestry achievement and not having achieved anything yourself is nothing to brag about. Your main priority should be focused on the future, for the past has passed and the future is what's important and what defines us...
Your comparison and assumption on other ethnic groups are pathetic, for you to dwell on your past ancestry achievement and not having achieved anything yourself is nothing to brag about. Your main priority should be focused on the future, for the past has passed and the future is what's important and what defines us...
tofu has spoken
QUOTE(Nha Le @ Feb 29 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]3535191[/snapback]
Are you sure that you are a Greek from the ancient Greece? As you may know that Europe today is not the same europe it was 2000 years ago.
that nigguh is Cambodian, what kind of a Greece nigguh with a ghetto name such as "Phonecard' C'mon dawg!
QUOTE(fadedmofo @ Mar 1 2008, 03:08 AM) [snapback]3535193[/snapback]
tofu has spoken
lol my first serious response! comments like that are just so stupid and immature, it really annoys me how narrow-minded people are and also their stupid pride.
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