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quan zixi
I was thinking, if these three unite they would top the the US or any other country in anyway right? and all these 3 have the same goal---to be better than the US. instead of competing with each other they should be competing with the US.
yea i know there are a lot of differances with each country but it possible in the near future right? when i die i want to see a united asia or aleast seeing the racism die out of the three.


So do you there is a chance of them uniting?
The reson i put the topic here because i found that there where more intelligent posters here. flame me if im wrong i dont give a sh1t.
Rappapa
No chance with uniting with China. They can't even settle a simple Soccer game in a civil manner embarassedlaugh.gif
dalawapo
are u talking about with japan & korea? then japan wouldnt be homogenous anymore.... i think they proud of that right?
chynagongju
Japan and China would never unite...I mean if we did, it would be an amazing alliance [including Korea of course] but yeah, like Rappapa said. Look at the soccer game. China obviously still holds strong sentiments against the Japanese government for not apologizing about WWII. Everything competitive between Japanese and Chinese can and will somehow turn into that issue...which is obviously wrong. So...if it did happen, that'd be great. But the only way China would side with Japan is if the govt apologized. Which I don't think is coming soon...

Hypothetically though, it's a strong alliance. I like the name too btw. Three dragons of Asia. icon_wink.gif
Rad Raz
Three Alliance my @$$, it could turn into an unfail version of Austrian-Hungary Empire.
supernovasp
there will no alliances of Korea, Japan, and China.. but China will dominate Korea and Japan sooner or later icon_rolleyes.gif
chynagongju
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Aug 9 2004, 09:42 PM)
there will no alliances of Korea, Japan, and China.. but China will dominate Korea and Japan sooner or later icon_rolleyes.gif

HAHAHA

No starting a flame war over this comment please....I don't want to give out warnings...
HoChiMinh
Yes China will overshadow S Korea and Japan. However, I don't think China will dominate those two countries in the sense of them being subjugated to Chinese rule or anything.
Rappapa
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Aug 9 2004, 10:43 PM)
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Aug 9 2004, 09:42 PM)
there will no alliances of Korea, Japan, and China.. but China will dominate Korea and Japan sooner or later  icon_rolleyes.gif

HAHAHA

No starting a flame war over this comment please....I don't want to give out warnings...

He speaks the truth :genius:
Rad Raz
QUOTE (Rappapa @ Aug 9 2004, 10:52 PM)
He speaks the truth :genius:

No, he speaks bunch of what if's....
Musashino
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Aug 9 2004, 10:34 PM)
Japan and China would never unite...I mean if we did, it would be an amazing alliance [including Korea of course] but yeah, like Rappapa said. Look at the soccer game. China obviously still holds strong sentiments against the Japanese government for not apologizing about WWII. Everything competitive between Japanese and Chinese can and will somehow turn into that issue...which is obviously wrong. So...if it did happen, that'd be great. But the only way China would side with Japan is if the govt apologized. Which I don't think is coming soon...

Hypothetically though, it's a strong alliance. I like the name too btw. Three dragons of Asia. icon_wink.gif


And not to mention that the Chinese government and press should do their bit to promote stronger Sino-Japanese ties instead of censoring past monetary aid from Japan (who was the first industrial power to donate financial aid to China back in 1979) and, in general, preventing the media from printing out the good that's been done.

Bad stuff have happened, but there have been gestures of goodwill as well. The onus shouldn't be completely on Japan to mend relations - what good would it be if Japan decided to keep apologising over and over again while the Chinese media and government refuses to both publicise or even acknowledge them?

A China-Japan-Korea alliance? Fat chance, if today's "globalised" world is an indication. China already eats up around 18% of South Korea's exports and is its top market, making the South Korean economy increasingly dependable on China. There's a danger that South Korea will eventually become China's "satellite" coloney - not directly, mind you - and I don't see Japan jumping up and down at a chance to kowtow to a giant that wants you squashed into oblivion. Personally, I see Japan sticking with the U.S. on one side while China and South Korea are on another.
Fatality
there is absolutly no chance of them uniting, Japan has just signed a billion $$ contract with teh US joining the development of the "son of star wars" programs. It seems like Japan is tagging along with the US more than Asia...same with Australia. Even if the 3 countires were to unit, they still dont stand a chance against the US in terms of nuclear warheads, as Donald Rumsfeld put it they want to "hold power beyond challenge".
福州市长
china and korea might have chance..but japan..it's hopeless
MiSta MujiGe
east asian alliance? i dont think it will ever happen. sea countries probably have more chance of forming an unity.
RiverPlate4Life
Amusing thread. biggrin.gif
UltraSharpDVI
No.
The languages aren't even similar, compared to Indo-European languages.
That is a MAJOR hurdle.
Rad Raz
QUOTE (福州市长 @ Aug 10 2004, 08:41 AM)
china and korea might have chance..

Not a single damn chance.
n00b_sKiLLz
China, Japan, and Korea... Probably the 3 worst combination of allies... Always struggling for power against each other and bas history to top it all off?! Not going to happen, EVER! duh2.gif The thought of a "united Asia" is such a white washed Asian wannabee thought if you know what I mean. embarassedlaugh.gif
276
QUOTE (n00b_sKiLLz @ Aug 14 2004, 01:48 AM)
China, Japan, and Korea... Probably the 3 worst combination of allies... Always struggling for power against each other and bas history to top it all off?! Not going to happen, EVER! duh2.gif The thought of a "united Asia" is such a white washed Asian wannabee thought if you know what I mean. embarassedlaugh.gif

I'm for the alliance. They need each other the ward off the real enemy--the US!
MING-LOYALIST
QUOTE (Rad Raz @ Aug 13 2004, 10:50 PM)
QUOTE (福州市长 @ Aug 10 2004, 08:41 AM)
china and korea might have chance..

Not a single damn chance.

You are very short sighted.
There are a very high chance.
Colordevil
QUOTE (Rappapa @ Aug 9 2004, 11:03 PM)
No chance with uniting with China. They can't even settle a simple Soccer game in a civil manner embarassedlaugh.gif

Hey, anything can happen, right? icon_wink.gif
But i doubt it, also embarassedlaugh.gif
Rad Raz
QUOTE (MING-LOYALIST @ Aug 14 2004, 07:46 AM)
You are very short sighted.
There are a very high chance.

Unification of both China and korea? Just how are they gonna unficate? By china's force?

Korea want to be alone, and they are sure hell aren't interested in unification with other country, you unrealistic fool.
MING-LOYALIST
QUOTE (Rad Raz @ Aug 14 2004, 09:07 AM)
QUOTE (MING-LOYALIST @ Aug 14 2004, 07:46 AM)
You are very short sighted.
There are a very high chance.

Unification of both China and korea? Just how are they gonna unficate? By china's force?

Korea want to be alone, and they are sure hell aren't interested in unification with other country, you unrealistic fool.

No I'm not a unrealistic fool.
Korea want reunification so does China, you the only fool.
Rad Raz
QUOTE (MING-LOYALIST @ Aug 14 2004, 09:17 AM)
No I'm not a unrealistic fool.
Korea want reunification so does China, you the only fool.

Korea ONLY seeks reunification of North and South, not korea and china.
MING-LOYALIST
QUOTE (Rad Raz @ Aug 14 2004, 09:18 AM)
QUOTE (MING-LOYALIST @ Aug 14 2004, 09:17 AM)
No I'm not a unrealistic fool.
Korea want reunification so does China, you the only fool.

Korea ONLY seeks reunification of North and South, not korea and china.

what you said is common knowledge even if Korea wanted something else they probably aren't gonna get it.
Rad Raz
QUOTE (MING-LOYALIST @ Aug 14 2004, 09:24 AM)
what you said is common knowledge even if Korea wanted something else they probably aren't gonna get it.

Likely to happen or not, that is what they want.
EmSkittles19
It can topple the U.S.
276
who's speaking of unification? I thought we were talking about a loosely based alliance based upon common culture, interests, etc.
EmSkittles19
^it's more funner to talk about unification. or lack thereof. hehe
福州市长
QUOTE (Rad Raz @ Aug 13 2004, 10:50 PM)
QUOTE (福州市长 @ Aug 10 2004, 08:41 AM)
china and korea might have chance..

Not a single damn chance.

ain't north korea and china are super friends??
Rad Raz
QUOTE (福州市长 @ Aug 14 2004, 11:48 AM)
ain't north korea and china are super friends??

So you've been living under the rock... the relationship between china and north kroea have gotten worse since when china opened to the west and USA. Now NK think china betrayed the way of the communism, and right now they aren't in really good relationship. If they are why in the hell china would send hundreds of soldiers near border of north korea?
福州市长
preventing the illegal immgrants
Rad Raz
QUOTE (福州市长 @ Aug 14 2004, 01:15 PM)
preventing the illegal immgrants

Right sure, that ain't Mexico/USA border.
福州市长
i'm telling the truth man.... lots north korean try to escape to china
MiSta MujiGe
korea and china uniting?maybe in your dream. seriously, why the hell would they do that? korea's only interest in china is their big market.(easy $$) not to mention they have two different political ideology.
Rad Raz
Making an alliance I understand, but whole idea of uniting is just too damn ridiculous.
276
Exactly. We need an asian alliance. It's too sad to see these countries at each other's throats when after all we're all more similar than different. It's really sad when I see that Koreans/Japanese/Chinese feel a stronger ties to US or Europeans than people of their own kind.
Rocky Cuong V
QUOTE (Rad Raz @ Aug 15 2004, 07:02 AM)
Making an alliance I understand, but whole idea of uniting is just too damn ridiculous.

yeah i reacon eh.
Ogumo
QUOTE (Rad Raz @ Aug 14 2004, 04:02 PM)
Making an alliance I understand, but whole idea of uniting is just too damn ridiculous.

Actually I think asia may attempt to unite economies like europe if anything at all. That seems more possible than unite as one cohesive body.
EmSkittles19
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Aug 14 2004, 08:40 PM)
QUOTE (Rad Raz @ Aug 14 2004, 04:02 PM)
Making an alliance I understand, but whole idea of uniting is just too damn ridiculous.

Actually I think asia may attempt to unite economies like europe if anything at all. That seems more possible than unite as one cohesive body.

yeah, unification of economy !! and then!! lets have a currency called The Asia and each Asia is worth 2.3 to the dollar!! that would be L33T
IMaBetterAthleteThanYou
The unity of China, Japan, and Korea is about as likely as me knocking down the statue of liberty with my bare hands.
JustINtroverted
Yeah, It's sad how we bicker at each other... I think China, Korea, & Japan are WAY too proud... besides.. the languages are too complex and there is no similar alphabet. Most of the european languages derived from Latin and have an alphabet...
直隸總督
India has more potentials than S. Chosun.
fujisan_8
actually i think its out of sheer fear that china is going to become monstorous once again. if itm spilt up into smaller bite sizes pieces and each of of them sucked up to the USA, then I can see an alliance between K J and Spilt up C. There would be no clear big force in the three...I think all Korea and Japan really wants is a less potentially threating China.

I think the warming Korean and Japanese relations are a good sign, especially amongst the youth. I'd think it would be a good idea Japan and Korea team up to cancel out the growing might of China....after all they share common cultyures and their langauges are remarkably similar...its really a question of WHY NOT?

i dont think its got anything to do with alphabets, if so, korea has one and im sure japanese can use hangul with slight variations since japanese and korean is nearly indistinguishable to the untrained ear.

the EU joining economies is just an attempt to exploit the poorer Eastern countries and to really keep a balance check on growing China. Somewhat I dont think Asians are good at uniting, something we are miles behind, hence thats why our continent is so scattered and messed up. We're just too greedy and selfish.
MiSta MujiGe
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ Aug 16 2004, 10:20 AM)
India has more potentials than S. Chosun.

you guys should unite with india.
276
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ Aug 16 2004, 10:20 AM)
India has more potentials than S. Chosun.

Right. And where exactly in its long history has India shown any potential? India will always need the US and Europe to start their economy and create jobs in their country. They're nothing without them. They've always relied on foreigners, then the British, now the Americans, to improve their country. They can't do anything for themselves. Just like their country started faltering when the British left, their recovery won't last.

OTOTH. South Korea is where it is now because they independently created wealth for themselves. It's beyond comparison.

Idiot. It's statements like that that create rifts.

Actually there's been talks about creating a Northeast asian bloc among the three countries. One of the main issues against it though is the fact that China is too poor and aren't up to par with SK and Japan. They're afraid China will bring SK and Japan down.

My guess is that the only reason anyone started showing any interest in China is because its rich Asian neighbors has shown interest in it. SK and Japan have pored hundreds of billions into your country and has basically engineered your growth. The US or Europe hasn't done as much. You should be on your knees thanking us.
276
QUOTE (MiSta MujiGe @ Aug 16 2004, 03:57 PM)
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ Aug 16 2004, 10:20 AM)
India has more potentials than S. Chosun.

you guys should unite with india.

Yeah two third world countries. At least they complement each other in terms of wealth.
IMaBetterAthleteThanYou
QUOTE (276 @ Aug 16 2004, 04:29 PM)
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ Aug 16 2004, 10:20 AM)
India has more potentials than S. Chosun.

Right. And where exactly in its long history has India shown any potential? India will always need the US and Europe to start their economy and create jobs in their country. They're nothing without them. They've always relied on foreigners, then the British, now the Americans, to improve their country. They can't do anything for themselves. Just like their country started faltering when the British left, their recovery won't last.

OTOTH. South Korea is where it is now because they independently created wealth for themselves. It's beyond comparison.

Idiot. It's statements like that that create rifts.

Actually there's been talks about creating a Northeast asian bloc among the three countries. One of the main issues against it though is the fact that China is too poor and aren't up to par with SK and Japan. They're afraid China will bring SK and Japan down.

My guess is that the only reason anyone started showing any interest in China is because its rich Asian neighbors has shown interest in it. SK and Japan have pored hundreds of billions into your country and has basically engineered your growth. The US or Europe hasn't done as much. You should be on your knees thanking us.


"Right. And where exactly in its long history has India shown any potential?"

How doesn't India have huge potential should be the question.

"India will always need the US and Europe to start their economy and create jobs in their country. "

As does every other country in the world, even your mighty South Korea. Your point?

"They're nothing without them."

You are hardly one to talk.

"They've always relied on foreigners, then the British, now the Americans, to improve their country. "

Apparently you are very ignorant of history. The British did nothing but rape India and is in fact largely responsible for the current poverty that India suffers from.

"They can't do anything for themselves."

Oh yes, all that software programming is actually the work of foreigners::::SARCASM:::

"Just like their country started faltering when the British left, their recovery won't last."

Please quit speaking on the topic of India, it's apparent that you are far too ignorant to give any valuable insight.

"OTOTH. South Korea is where it is now because they independently created wealth for themselves. It's beyond comparison."

Yes all by themselves without US help LOL.

"Actually there's been talks about creating a Northeast asian bloc among the three countries. One of the main issues against it though is the fact that China is too poor and aren't up to par with SK and Japan. They're afraid China will bring SK and Japan down."

HAHA typical non-sensical, cheap shot from the resident hardcore Korean nationalist. Oh yes, Japan and Korea want nothing to do with China which is why they're constantly trying to tap into the Chinese market. Just google any search on China, Korea, regarding economic and business matters. Contrary to your nationalist drivel, China very much has the attention of Korea, so much so that young Koreans are actually taking a huge interest in learning the Chinese language. How's that for a poor third world country eh? Funny how you love to talk so much crap using SK and never mention your brothers up north, why is that? No wonder why nobody is SK wants reunification anytime soon.
http://21stcentury.chinadaily.com.cn/article.php?sid=9834
http://chineseculture.about.com/b/a/100258.htm

"My guess is that the only reason anyone started showing any interest in China is because its rich Asian neighbors has shown interest in it."

HAHA so now the only reason people pay attention to China is because of Korea? LOL right. BTW what you said doesn't even make sense. If China is so poor and unworthy of your attention, why would you help us grow? Why would you help a large giant recover and rejuvenate?

"SK and Japan have pored hundreds of billions into your country and has basically engineered your growth. The US or Europe hasn't done as much. You should be on your knees thanking us."

Yeah and just like you should be on your knees thanking the Chinese for allowing you to tap into their markets by buying your products and helping you maintain your healthy economy. What's your point? All countries are dependant on each other in so way shape form or another. You think it's only a one way street? icon_rolleyes.gif
IMaBetterAthleteThanYou
QUOTE (276 @ Aug 16 2004, 04:41 PM)
QUOTE (MiSta MujiGe @ Aug 16 2004, 03:57 PM)
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ Aug 16 2004, 10:20 AM)
India has more potentials than S. Chosun.

you guys should unite with india.

Yeah two third world countries. At least they complement each other in terms of wealth.

As well as being Asia's two oldest and most influential civilizations, two cradles of human civilization, and historical dominance on the Asian continent. Proud claims that very few other nations on the Asian continent can claim. Do you have a fetish on looking down on third world countries? Does it somehow satisfy your fake pride and help fill in the holes caused by your own insecurities?
276
QUOTE (IMaBetterAthleteThanYou @ Aug 16 2004, 09:54 PM)
QUOTE (276 @ Aug 16 2004, 04:41 PM)
QUOTE (MiSta MujiGe @ Aug 16 2004, 03:57 PM)
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ Aug 16 2004, 10:20 AM)
India has more potentials than S. Chosun.

you guys should unite with india.

Yeah two third world countries. At least they complement each other in terms of wealth.

As well as being Asia's two oldest and most influential civilizations, two cradles of human civilization, and historical dominance on the Asian continent. Proud claims that very few other nations on the Asian continent can claim. Do you have a fetish on looking down on third world countries? Does it somehow satisfy your fake pride and help fill in the holes caused by your own insecurities?

Typical Chinese nationalist answer--can't contribute anything to this discussion except "we had such an illustrious history"blah blah blah. Stop living in the past.

Japan had an impressive past, but you don't see them dwelling on it or bringing it up every five seconds. Please, it's getting old.
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