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Englanda
One bullet, just one bullet, would have ended this war criminal's pathetic life, but we failed to do it. Damn us goo ooks !!!

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McCain Criticized for Slur

He says he'll keep using term for ex-captors in Vietnam

Friday, February 18, 0

(02-18) 04:00 PST Greenville, S.C. -- Arizona Sen. John McCain refused to apologize yesterday for his use of a racial slur to condemn the North Vietnamese prison guards who tortured and held him captive during the war.

``I hate the g@@ks,'' McCain said yesterday in response to a question from reporters aboard his campaign bus. ``I will hate them as long as I live.''

McCain, a former Navy pilot who spent five years in a Vietnamese prisoner of war camp, was questioned about the language because of a story last month in the Nation magazine reporting his continued use of the slur.

Since then, reports of McCain's language have been circulating on Internet chat sites and e-mails among Asian Americans, many of whom find the the term offensive and inappropriate for an elected official.

McCain's appeal to voters has been as a wartime hero and a feisty politician who speaks his mind and damns the consequences. But his comments on the eve of the key South Carolina primary show the candidate's vaunted `'straight talk'' in another light.

``The use of a racist slur can't be acceptable for any national leader, regardless of his background,'' said Diane Chin, executive director of the San Francisco-based Chinese for Affirmative Action. ``For someone running for president not to recognize the power of words is a problem.''

While McCain's words may have little effect in conservative South Carolina, where few Asian Americans live, they could come back to haunt him in other states.

``Historically, straight talkers who say things off the top of their heads eventually hang themselves with those sorts of remarks,'' said Bruce Cain, a political scientist at the University of California at Berkeley.

``While it might not hurt him now, Democrats are not going to have any hesitation about using this stuff to string him up later.''


TERM FOR HIS CAPTORS
McCain made no apologies yesterday.

``I was referring to my prison guards,'' McCain said, ``and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend some people because of the beating and torture of my friends.''

McCain made it clear that his anger extends only toward his captors. As a senator, he was one of the leaders of the postwar effort to normalize U.S. relations with Vietnam.

Campaign officials do not expect the controversy to hurt McCain, either in tomorrow's South Carolina primary or later in the campaign.

``If people understood the context, they wouldn't be upset,'' Mike Murphy, a senior adviser to the campaign, said last night.

But the racial slur used by the senator has a long, painful history that is felt by many Asian Americans.

The word ``g@@k'' was first used in 1899 by American soldiers fighting Filipino insurgents. During the Korean War, the term was aimed at Koreans and Chinese. It was directed at the Vietnamese when Americans were fighting in Vietnam. It is now used as a slur toward any Asian or Pacific Islander.

The Arizona senator prides himself on running an open campaign. He is surrounded by reporters, television cameras and tape recorders perhaps more than any presidential candidate in history. Reporters are given full access to the candidate between each campaign stop on a customized bus purposefully dubbed the ``Straight Talk Express.''

The bus, which also carries his top staff and often his wife, Cindy, is crammed with network anchors and local newspaper reporters, who endlessly engage McCain in what amounts to a news conference on wheels.

The comments are usually recorded and always on the record.

Sometimes the questions are pointed and serious. Sometimes they are not.

McCain has declared on his bus, ``I hate the French.'' He often begins meetings with Californians joking, ``I hate Californians,'' noting that they steal Arizona's water and lure his constituents away in the summer.


MCCAIN'S IMPRISONMENT
But those comments are clearly in jest. Yesterday's were not.

McCain was captured after his A-4 Skyhawk was shot down over Hanoi on Oct. 26, 1967. During the time he was held, he was brutally tortured by his captors, finally reaching the point where he was unable to resist signing a ``confession.''

McCain and his fellow prisoners suffered terribly in the prison camp. In the crowd at yesterday's rally in Greenville was retired Adm. Robert Fuller, who was in prison with McCain at the infamous ``Hanoi Hilton.''

Fuller, who lives in Jacksonville Beach, Fla., spoke informally of the despair of living in single cells, where the only form of contact was by an ingenious code devised by the prisoners. Fuller said prisoners were sometimes tortured for as many as six days. When they returned, he said, the others would send messages of support by tapping on the wall.

``They would be put in ropes for six days, and they would confess,'' Fuller said. ``When they came back to their cell, guys would tap on the wall, `We love you. I wish we could give you a hug.' ''

The horrors of the past cannot be an excuse for hurting people in the present, said Guy Aoki, president of the Media Action Network for Asian Americans, an anti-defamation group.

``If Sen. McCain had been captured by Nigerians, could he call those people `N*ggas' and think he wasn't going to offend everyone who is black?'' Akoi asked. ``We can all feel for what he went through, but if that's his level of sensitivity, I'm very disappointed.''

McCain usually treats his experience as a prisoner of war as a terrible time in his life, but a period he has moved beyond. At times, he even uses it as a punch line for jokes.

At a pancake breakfast recently, he said he had gone with his daughter to the MTV Music Awards, ``and that was the greatest assault on my senses since I was in prison.''

Yesterday's comments made it clear that McCain had neither forgotten, nor forgiven, his captors.

``I will call right now, my interrogator that tortured me, a g@@k,'' McCain said. ``(I can't believe that) anybody doesn't believe these interrogators and prison guards were cruel and sadistic people who deserve the worst appellations possible.''

McCain said he does not consider the comment an epithet.

``g@@k,'' he said, ``is the kindest appellation I can give.''
Qkhanh
Wow, I never knew McCain was like that. thumbsdown.gif
TrashCleaner
democrats will win anyway so who care.
aithong
If th election is between McCain and Clinton, i'd vote for McCain.
film4reel
mccain is a republican; therefore, this incident should not come as a surprise to anyone.


btw, if you are a person of color living in the u.s. and vote for mccain or whomever becomes the republican nominee, YOU ARE A DUMB AZZ.

EDIT: also, if you are a person of color and can legally vote in the 2008 election and choose not to vote, YOU ARE A BIG DUMB AZZ
Reliance225
QUOTE(TrashCleaner @ Jan 31 2008, 07:29 AM) [snapback]3462300[/snapback]
democrats will win anyway so who care.



According to a recent national poll, McCain beats both Obama and Hillary if he runs against them in the general election. Nader also considers running as well and analysts predict that it's going to hurt the democrats if he runs, because he will take more of the democrats voters than republican.
SIG_P229
The man was capture, beaten and torture by the Viet Cong during the Vietnam War; he have every right to be angry and piss off. His comment was directly at the Viet Cong, not Viet people.

No racism here.
film4reel
QUOTE(Reliance225 @ Jan 31 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]3462486[/snapback]
According to a recent national poll, McCain beats both Obama and Hillary if he runs against them in the general election. Nader also considers running as well and analysts predict that it's going to hurt the democrats if he runs, because he will take more of the democrats voters than republican.


i am a nader hater! icon_twisted.gif

i hate how his votes helped keep gore out of the white house.

QUOTE(SIG_P229 @ Jan 31 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]3462488[/snapback]
The man was capture, beaten and torture by the Viet Cong during the Vietnam War; he have every right to be angry and piss off. His comment was directly at the Viet Cong, not Viet people.

No racism here.


he needs to get over it. he has enough money to hire a good therapist to overcome this trauma from his past.
Englanda
QUOTE(SIG_P229 @ Jan 31 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]3462488[/snapback]
The man was capture, beaten and torture by the Viet Cong during the Vietnam War; he have every right to be angry and piss off. His comment was directly at the Viet Cong, not Viet people.

No racism here.


Oh really? So AF censors the word "goo k" to protect the sensitivities of the Viet Cong? How sweet biggthumpup.gif
jose cuervo
This news is 8 years old man. I read this news when I was 18 years old and it was the 2000 election. laugh.gif

John McCain has a very good shot at the presidency. Obama and Hillary don't really have a good chance against him.

I've already met him years ago. Good guy and I know where he's coming from with those remarks. He has helped the Vietnamese people a lot. He helped the Viets in the US and he did help with lifting the economic embargo placed on Vietnam.

He is a progressive Republican. He will make a good president.

Suijen
lol, considering he spent 5 years in a prison camp, I wouldn't be surprised.
XigonCongchua
If I can vote I'd vote for the candidate whose policy would strengthen Vietnam
ChinaSoldier
QUOTE(Englanda @ Jan 31 2008, 03:57 AM) [snapback]3462253[/snapback]
``The use of a racist slur can't be acceptable for any national leader, regardless of his background,'' said Diane Chin, executive director of the San Francisco-based Chinese for Affirmative Action. ``For someone running for president not to recognize the power of words is a problem.''


Nice one Diane Chin. Very skillfully done.

This is the kind of time when I feel solidarity with all Asians. I truly hope we can one day put away our differences and focus on those who would keep us down on this planet.
film4reel
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Jan 31 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]3462693[/snapback]
This news is 8 years old man. I read this news when I was 18 years old and it was the 2000 election. laugh.gif

John McCain has a very good shot at the presidency. Obama and Hillary don't really have a good chance against him.

I've already met him years ago. Good guy and I know where he's coming from with those remarks. He has helped the Vietnamese people a lot. He helped the Viets in the US and he did help with lifting the economic embargo placed on Vietnam.

He is a progressive Republican. He will make a good president.


LMAO jose...sorry. embarassedlaugh.gif
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Jan 31 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]3462762[/snapback]
If I can vote I'd vote for the candidate whose policy would strengthen Vietnam

then don't vote republican.
Englanda
QUOTE(Suijen @ Jan 31 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]3462725[/snapback]
lol, considering he spent 5 years in a prison camp, I wouldn't be surprised.

You have to view this in a bigger context. He had bombed countless number of people to smitherine before being shot down. He was seriously injured and he received treatment at a time when most Vietnamese people did not have penicillin. The goo ks that he talks of are his victims-cum-saviour. Now he is old but apparently without wisdom, still bitter as fukk, that is pathetic
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(film4reel @ Jan 31 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]3462774[/snapback]
LMAO jose...sorry. embarassedlaugh.gif

then don't vote republican.

why not?

Can somebody tell me the difference between the Republican and Democratic plat form? I know the Republican are pro-business, their supporters are usually big business guys. The Democrat party is more for the common and average folks. But Clinton was a Democrat and his policy was totally pro-business.
Titanium
Spending 5 years in a prison camp will probably not give him the greatest perception of Vietnamese people but I agree, the comment was a bit uncalled for.
film4reel
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Jan 31 2008, 02:52 PM) [snapback]3462791[/snapback]
why not?

Can somebody tell me the difference between the Republican and Democratic plat form? I know the Republican are pro-business, their supporters are usually big business guys. The Democrat party is more for the common and average folks. But Clinton was a Democrat and his policy was totally pro-business.


Republicans = WASP, racists, homophobics, concerned ONLY about rich people.

Democrats = support blk, asian, hispanic causes for the most part, accepts gays, fight for the poor and support civil rights FOR ALL.

XigonCongchua
QUOTE(film4reel @ Jan 31 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]3462798[/snapback]
Republicans = WASP, racists, homophobics, concerned ONLY about rich people.

Democrats = support blk, asian, hispanic causes for the most part, accepts gays, fight for the poor and support civil rights FOR ALL.

yea I know about that, it's obvious

but what i'm concerned more is their policy about economy and politics
film4reel
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Jan 31 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]3462804[/snapback]
yea I know about that, it's obvious

but what i'm concerned more is their policy about economy and politics


i have to do a bit of research but for starters, mcclain ADMITTED he does not know much about economics.

Visit My Website

(read it and weep jose kiss.gif )
jose cuervo
QUOTE(film4reel @ Jan 31 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]3462774[/snapback]
LMAO jose...sorry. embarassedlaugh.gif

then don't vote republican.


Better than Barack and Billary. embarassedlaugh.gif
QUOTE
Republicans = WASP, racists, homophobics, concerned ONLY about rich people.

Democrats = support blk, asian, hispanic causes for the most part, accepts gays, fight for the poor and support civil rights FOR ALL.


Nah I see it this way.

Republicans - Self reliant, pro business, pragmatic, less government, aside from GWB (they don't start most of the wars)

Democrats - Big government, big spending, reliance on too much government interference and dependency,
XigonCongchua
It's obvious that jose is a republican while film4real is a democrat

I'll say I'm an independent biggrin.gif I'd not stick with any party, I'll just vote for whoever does good for vietnamese biggrin.gif
film4reel
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Jan 31 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]3462844[/snapback]
Better than Barack and Billary. embarassedlaugh.gif
Nah I see it this way.

Republicans - Self reliant, pro business, pragmatic, less government, aside from GWB (they don't start most of the wars)

Democrats - Big government, big spending, reliance on too much government interference and dependency,


i don't care for billary anyway. i think the clintons will do ANYTHING and stop at nothing to get what they want.

...but don't say anything bad about my barack. shifty.gif

one of the main reasons democrats favor big government is due to past unjustices in the u.s. state rights kept slavery going for so long as well as interracial couples not being able to marry and denying equal opportunities to minorities and women in this country.
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(film4reel @ Jan 31 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]3462853[/snapback]
i don't care for billary anyway. i think the clintons will do ANYTHING and stop at nothing to get what they want.

...but don't say anything bad about my barack. shifty.gif

one of the main reasons democrats favor big government is due to past unjustices in the u.s. state rights kept slavery going for so long as well as interracial couples not being able to marry and denying equal opportunities to minorities and women in this country.

but isn't it ironic that America was born from the concept of sovereignty of individual states?
film4reel
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Jan 31 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]3462852[/snapback]
It's obvious that jose is a republican while film4real is a democrat

I'll say I'm an independent biggrin.gif I'd not stick with any party, I'll just vote for whoever does good for vietnamese biggrin.gif


*gently persuades XC to join the democrat side of the thread* beerchug.gif
jose cuervo
QUOTE(film4reel @ Jan 31 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]3462853[/snapback]
i don't care for billary anyway. i think the clintons will do ANYTHING and stop at nothing to get what they want.

...but don't say anything bad about my barack. shifty.gif

one of the main reasons democrats favor big government is due to past unjustices in the u.s. state rights kept slavery going for so long as well as interracial couples not being able to marry and denying equal opportunities to minorities and women in this country.


They said that Barack is the next JFK. Is this something to be proud about? The average person in America thinks that JFK was one of the greatest US presidents and Democratic presidents, in actuality he was one of the worst US presidents and wasn't even half the president FDR was.

That's what happens when you have someone so inexperience running the country. laugh.gif
film4reel
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Jan 31 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]3462855[/snapback]
but isn't it ironic that America was born from the concept of sovereignty of individual states?


i do not think america was born from the concept of state sovereignty. i'm thinking america wanted sovereignty from britian.
film4reel
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Jan 31 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]3462868[/snapback]
They said that Barack is the next JFK. Is this something to be proud about? The average person in America thinks that JFK was one of the greatest US presidents and Democratic presidents, in actuality he was one of the worst US presidents and wasn't even half the president FDR was.

That's what happens when you have someone so inexperience running the country. laugh.gif


hahaha, you are so funny. thumbsdown.gif

FDR was good but LBJ was even better hun. icon_wink.gif
Englanda
QUOTE(film4reel @ Jan 31 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]3462857[/snapback]
*gently persuades XC to join the democrat side of the thread* beerchug.gif

Just say "it's good for your skin"
jose cuervo
QUOTE(film4reel @ Jan 31 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]3462875[/snapback]
hahaha, you are so funny. thumbsdown.gif

FDR was good but LBJ was even better hun. icon_wink.gif


Yes, FDR was very good, considered to be by many historians to be one of the top 2 presidents of all time.
LBJ had many good domestic policies and social programs, but continued JFK's mandate of involving the US into VN. He didn't seek a 2nd term after the Tet Offensive in the spring of '68 because it was seen as a too costly war for the US.

Barack has good lip service but inexperience as hell and too unknown about what he really stands for.
Doesn't matter, both of them don't really have a good chance against a war hero and experienced Senator. War heroes from Grant to Eisenhower have always had good chances of winning elections.

XigonCongchua
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Jan 31 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]3462868[/snapback]
They said that Barack is the next JFK. Is this something to be proud about? The average person in America thinks that JFK was one of the greatest US presidents and Democratic presidents, in actuality he was one of the worst US presidents and wasn't even half the president FDR was.

That's what happens when you have someone so inexperience running the country. laugh.gif

who is JFK?

QUOTE(film4reel @ Jan 31 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]3462870[/snapback]
i do not think america was born from the concept of state sovereignty. i'm thinking america wanted sovereignty from britian.

I think it was the concept of self-ruling that made the colonists wanted to separate from GB. Remember that they despised a strong central government and created the AOC which quickly proved to be a failure.

QUOTE(Englanda @ Jan 31 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]3462876[/snapback]
Just say "it's good for your skin"

huh?
film4reel
QUOTE(film4reel @ Jan 31 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]3462839[/snapback]
i have to do a bit of research but for starters, mcclain ADMITTED he does not know much about economics.

Visit My Website

(read it and weep jose kiss.gif )


hmmm...i see you didn't answer this post. that's what i thought! embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Jan 31 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]3462879[/snapback]
Yes, FDR was very good, considered to be by many historians to be one of the top 2 presidents of all time.
LBJ had many good domestic policies and social programs, but continued JFK's mandate of involving the US into VN. He didn't seek a 2nd term after the Tet Offensive in the spring of '68 because it was seen as a too costly war for the US.


ok, i do concede on the VN issue. the u.s. had no business over there.

vietnam war = war on iraq = unjustice, unfair and downright evil

QUOTE
Barack has good lip service but inexperience as hell and too unknown about what he really stands for.
Doesn't matter, both of them don't really have a good chance against a war hero and experienced Senator. War heroes from Grant to Eisenhower have always had good chances of winning elections.


i'm glad barack doesn't have a lot of washington experience. that's a good thing! icon_wink.gif

don't get me started about war heroes...these so-called war heroes did not give a rat's azz about people of color.

*tries to coax jose over to the democrat side of the thread*
baal
Each of us is deeply flawed. If you doubt that check out the record of my posts on AF. McCain is no exception. His service to America must be respected, even as one votes for his opponent.
film4reel
QUOTE(baal @ Jan 31 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]3462893[/snapback]
Each of us is deeply flawed. If you doubt that check out the record of my posts on AF. McCain is no exception. His service to America must be respected, even as one votes for his opponent.


hey, i respect anyone who puts their life on the line for their country. biggthumpup.gif biggthumpup.gif

i'm talking about mccain's warped policies and political viewpoint.
XigonCongchua
politics always make Viet Chat hot
Englanda
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Jan 31 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]3462890[/snapback]
huh?

You know girls never eat enough at parties or gatherings, you can encourage them to eat by saying "that's really good for your skin..." .... they'd eat all of it laugh.gif
film4reel
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Jan 31 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]3462897[/snapback]
politics always make Viet Chat hot


i love a good debate. biggthumpup.gif
aithong
You guys dont this country to run too far left or right,ok. It's best that we have majority congress run by the Dems (which is likely to happen) again and presidency run by Republicans.
ChinaSoldier
QUOTE(Englanda @ Jan 31 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]3462786[/snapback]
You have to view this in a bigger context. He had bombed countless number of people to smitherine before being shot down. He was seriously injured and he received treatment at a time when most Vietnamese people did not have penicillin. The goo ks that he talks of are his victims-cum-saviour. Now he is old but apparently without wisdom, still bitter as fukk, that is pathetic

biggthumpup.gif
jose cuervo
QUOTE(film4reel @ Jan 31 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]3462892[/snapback]
hmmm...i see you didn't answer this post. that's what i thought! embarassedlaugh.gif
ok, i do concede on the VN issue. the u.s. had no business over there.

vietnam war = war on iraq = unjustice, unfair and downright evil
i'm glad barack doesn't have a lot of washington experience. that's a good thing! icon_wink.gif

don't get me started about war heroes...these so-called war heroes did not give a rat's azz about people of color.

*tries to coax jose over to the democrat side of the thread*


So what? He admits that he's weak in that area instead of trying to bulls-hit and give lip service. He will have advisers in his cabinet that will advise him on these things.

As for as lack of Washington experience, it's a double edge sword. It will work for Obama somewhat because the country wants a fresh change, but people who are keen on history like myself knows why the comparisons are to JFK are valid and it's in the negative sense. Like both they gave an shimmer of hope and potential, one could be assassinated just like JFK, both are inexperienced as hell in Washington and world affairs and that's bad in these times.

Nha Le
US President != Commander of the Economy.

The president have very little influence on the economy. The president job is to execute!!!
XigonCongchua
QUOTE(Nha Le @ Jan 31 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]3462935[/snapback]
US President != Commander of the Economy.

The president have very little influence on the economy. The president job is to execute!!!

I'm sorry but what point do you want to make here?
GenomVirues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg...feature=related

bomb bomb bomb, bomb Iran


I think McCain is a warmonger.

Nha Le
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Jan 31 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]3462946[/snapback]
I'm sorry but what point do you want to make here?


Read the previous posts. Some here claims that a president should be knowledgeble of the economy.
GenomVirues
QUOTE(Nha Le @ Jan 31 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]3462935[/snapback]
US President != Commander of the Economy.

The president have very little influence on the economy. The president job is to execute!!!


Bush got America into debt, so what are you talking about niggah? The American dollar has lost it value and confidence in the eyes of the international. Thanks to Bush the Euro now has the power to challenge the dollar. If people are not using the dollar to stabilize their economy we don't get rich and people are starting to adopt the Euro.

If America gone broke public programs will also be cut, I need welfare check in the mail to support my weed smoking habit. God damnnit! I'm too cool to work!
jose cuervo
QUOTE
The actions of the committee were designed to allow for improved ties between the two countries;[84] McCain pressed for normalization of diplomatic relations with Vietnam, partly because it was "a time to heal ... it's a way of ending the war; it's time to move on,


QUOTE
In 1994 the Senate passed a resolution, sponsored by Kerry and McCain, that called for an end to the existing trade embargo against Vietnam; it was intended to pave the way for normalization.[87]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_mccain

This is why I have respect for him. What he did was improved the lives of the Vietnamese people in VN.

aithong
QUOTE(GenomVirues @ Jan 31 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]3462962[/snapback]
Bush got America into debt, so what are you talking about niggah? The American dollar has lost it value and confidence in the eyes of the international. Thanks to Bush the Euro now has the power to challenge the dollar. If people are not using the dollar to stabilize their economy we don't get rich and people are starting to adopt the Euro.

If America gone broke public programs will also be cut, I need welfare check in the mail to support my weed smoking habit. God damnnit! I'm too cool to work!


You're partly right but the part of the reason also why the dollar has been dropping is because the federal reserve has been printing money out thin air with no gold to back it up. So it means that we have too much paper money and not enough gold to back it up. Check out youtube about what Ron Paul has been talking about.
GenomVirues
Why do you think they keep printing money out of thin air? To support the "war on terror". And who is responsible for that? Bush! Because they print money out of thin air that's why we're in debt and the dollar has lots it value; inflation.

I know what i'm talking about , dawg.
Nha Le
QUOTE(GenomVirues @ Jan 31 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]3462962[/snapback]
Bush got America into debt, so what are you talking about niggah? The American dollar has lost it value and confidence in the eyes of the international. Thanks to Bush the Euro now has the power to challenge the dollar. If people are not using the dollar to stabilize their economy we don't get rich and people are starting to adopt the Euro.

If America gone broke public programs will also be cut, I need welfare check in the mail to support my weed smoking habit. God damnnit! I'm too cool to work!


Please stop quoting and relaying what other individuals said who know nothing about the economy. Please stop blaming Bush when it is the Feds who control the US economy.

The subprime problem is what hurt US economy and this problem was caused in 2001 by Alan Greenspan and his feds, they cut the rate too low which allowed everyone to get a house on credits. Last year the rate was too high and the housing market got hurt. USA dollars value lost it value is because the feds is cutting the interest rate again. Everytime they cut the rate US dollars falls. Low interest make it unfavorable for foreign to invest into the US market.

Please read this if you want to know more about the subprime crisis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_subprime...inancial_crisis

Greenspan blamed for subprime crisis
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...PStory/Business

Greenspan is profiting from the subprime crisis - why? he joined hedge fund which is profiting from the subprime crisis.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5...n_paulsons.html


The economy problems in US right has nothing to do with what Bush did. In fact he helped it by cutting tax early into his terms.
bluelakedragon
QUOTE(film4reel @ Jan 31 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]3462463[/snapback]
mccain is a republican; therefore, this incident should not come as a surprise to anyone.
btw, if you are a person of color living in the u.s. and vote for mccain or whomever becomes the republican nominee, YOU ARE A DUMB AZZ.

EDIT: also, if you are a person of color and can legally vote in the 2008 election and choose not to vote, YOU ARE A BIG DUMB AZZ



LOL laugh.gif

do you know who Senator Byrd is? He was(is) a member of KKK and he is a democrat!!!
LINK


so, your logic is whoever votes for democrats are "smart"!!! lol embarassedlaugh.gif
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