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Red Fox Ace
Japan to boost air defences: report

TOKYO, Jan 27 (AFP) Jan 27, 2008

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Japan is to boost its defences against cruise missiles as China increases its air strike capabilities, the Yomiuri Shimbun reported Sunday.

The defence ministry plans to increase the number of aircraft equipped with airborne warning and control systems and install state-of-the-art radar to allow early detection of precision-guided missiles heading for Japan, the daily said.

It is also considering developing an advanced long-range surface-to-air missile, the report said, citing senior defence ministry sources.

The government has so far mainly focused on developing a ballistic missile defence system, primarily in response to a perceived threat from North Korea.

Meanwhile, China has equipped its fighter jets and submarines with domestically developed cruise missiles, which have a range in excess of 1,000 kilometers (625 miles), the newspaper said.

Beijing is also believed to have started developing advanced precision-guided missiles with a range of about 3,000 kilometers -- similar to that of the US military's Tomahawk cruise missile, it said.

Chinese fighter jets repeatedly approached Japan last year, coming close enough to launch a cruise missile before returning to Chinese air space, the newspaper said.

"We believe these acts were unlikely to be part of information-gathering exercises, but rather drills to prepare for a possible cruise missile attack on Japan," a senior Japanese defence official told the Yomiuri.
Chi73
How come Japan is so scared when they have the U.S. Patriot missiles on their soil!!
Red Fox Ace
QUOTE(Chi73 @ Jan 27 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]3454569[/snapback]
How come Japan is so scared when they have the U.S. Patriot missiles on their soil!!


Like what do you mean? Talktohand.gif Patriot covers only a small radius and Japan is a widespread island archipelago which requires broad theater defense; having the E-767 AWACS helps to improve situational vision and awareness, while the "advanced long-range-surface-to-air missile" being considered would help to improve striking interceptor capability.
furball
Japan has also formally extended its sphere of protection to cover the whole island of Taiwan.

Screw the Chinese.
furball
Long live the god emperor Hirohito!
KJK
Can some one inform me how does a early warning plane can defend against a cruise missile?
Is that means the plane has to be in the air 24/7?

How if the missile is launched covertly from the submarine. Some say normal missiles can be launch from torpedo tube /wo surfacing.
baal
QUOTE(KJK @ Aug 5 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]3852794[/snapback]
Can some one inform me how does a early warning plane can defend against a cruise missile?
Is that means the plane has to be in the air 24/7?

How if the missile is launched covertly from the submarine. Some say normal missiles can be launch from torpedo tube /wo surfacing.


I'm not sure. If I had to guess the EW aircraft would be part of an integrated air defense system. Ballistic missile defense research is further along than cruise missile defense research.
Red Fox Ace
QUOTE(KJK @ Aug 5 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]3852794[/snapback]
Can some one inform me how does a early warning plane can defend against a cruise missile?


The advantage of a platform mounted atop an aircraft is that the aircraft is at a high altitude (i.e., 30,000 to 50,000 feet,) and can "see" much further with greater range. This is principle behind AWACS and JSTARS.

QUOTE(KJK @ Aug 5 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]3852794[/snapback]
Is that means the plane has to be in the air 24/7?


Probably so, but a missile launch completely out of the blue is highly unlikely. In the event of escalating tensions and hostilities, it is likely that aircraft would be ready and mobilized in advance.


QUOTE(KJK @ Aug 5 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]3852794[/snapback]
How if the missile is launched covertly from the submarine. Some say normal missiles can be launch from torpedo tube /wo surfacing.


The detection is the same, albeit with less warning. Such a missile would leave a thermal plume and IR/radar signature like any other missile. But the missile could be launched from far shorter range. This detection, perhaps, is the role of maritime patrol craft like the P-3C Orion.

EazyMoney
QUOTE(Red Fox Ace @ Aug 6 2008, 02:28 AM) [snapback]3853601[/snapback]
The detection is the same, albeit with less warning. Such a missile would leave a thermal plume and IR/radar signature like any other missile. But the missile could be launched from far shorter range. This detection, perhaps, is the role of maritime patrol craft like the P-3C Orion.


cruise missile can be long range, 500km to 1000km. If the sub launched underwater in the international water far away from the coast, I doubt they can detect.
KJlost
Yes, and that is the concern in Japan, despite having a very large fleet of 13 E-2 Hawkeyes and 4 E-767 early-warning radar aircrafts plus a number of land-based radar detection systems. They have a large area to cover, and if submarine is utilize to get into position silently, there is really little that they could do to stop it before launch or detect it at a comfortable distance. However, aside from Russia, none of Japan's surrounding nations possess a significant submarine-based cruise missile capability.
Adee
Damn just as I hoped the relationship between two countries are getting better.
EazyMoney
QUOTE(KJlost @ Aug 14 2008, 02:43 PM) [snapback]3870725[/snapback]
Yes, and that is the concern in Japan, despite having a very large fleet of 13 E-2 Hawkeyes and 4 E-767 early-warning radar aircrafts plus a number of land-based radar detection systems. They have a large area to cover, and if submarine is utilize to get into position silently, there is really little that they could do to stop it before launch or detect it at a comfortable distance. However, aside from Russia, none of Japan's surrounding nations possess a significant submarine-based cruise missile capability.


China already has mature tech on underwater launching. The long range cruise missile too big to fit the torpedo tube, but maybe using 094 sub VLS, which normally hosts the Ballistic missile.
Red Fox Ace
QUOTE(EazyMoney @ Aug 11 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]3864466[/snapback]
cruise missile can be long range, 500km to 1000km. If the sub launched underwater in the international water far away from the coast, I doubt they can detect.


The closer the missiles are launched, the less time there is to detect the missiles.
Bulldogg
QUOTE(furball @ Aug 5 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]3852770[/snapback]
Japan has also formally extended its sphere of protection to cover the whole island of Taiwan.

Screw the Chinese.


Screw you, Japan can be destroyed with 1 massive earth quake by mother nature.

And why do some Japanese characters look like Chinese characters?
dudester
a lot of their citizens (not govt because it cant) want an arms race with china (especially atom bomb development) because they are feeling the "threat" of chinas military buildup but china does its own efficient thing. i doubt their economy and population is capable of of that in comparison to a 1.3 billion nation

however its a good way to pull them in to waste their money but i doubt china is that sly
kunomchu
QUOTE(dudester @ Aug 17 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]3875943[/snapback]
a lot of their citizens (not govt because it cant) want an arms race with china (especially atom bomb development) because they are feeling the "threat" of chinas military buildup but china does its own efficient thing. i doubt their economy and population is capable of of that in comparison to a 1.3 billion nation

however its a good way to pull them in to waste their money but i doubt china is that sly


What motive would China have, to wage war against japan? Those limp nationalists lol

mkfk1
is not like china or russia are planning invasion of japan any time soon. Why is Japanese wasting money on defence...
manko
QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Sep 1 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]3904584[/snapback]
is not like china or russia are planning invasion of japan any time soon. Why is Japanese wasting money on defence...


Dumbass, you answered your own question. Why would you want to have to build an entire military when you get attacked, rather than already got one standing and your technology is ahead of the game.
Suijen
They're preparing for an attack on Japan.

What the fu-k are they smoking?
Juan1988
QUOTE(mkfk1 @ Sep 1 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]3904584[/snapback]
is not like china or russia are planning invasion of japan any time soon. Why is Japanese wasting money on defence...



QUOTE(manko @ Oct 22 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]3979082[/snapback]
Dumbass, you answered your own question. Why would you want to have to build an entire military when you get attacked, rather than already got one standing and your technology is ahead of the game.


hahahaha. Good one. i just cant stop laughing when you call him a dumbass hahaha. it makes total sense haha. he just answer his own question hahaha

he said "is not like china or russia are planning invasion of japan any time soon. Why is japan wasting money on defence... LOL if he would put the last sentence first and first sentence last he just answered it haha

Why is japan wasting money on defence... is not like china or russia are planning invasion of japan any time soon

HAHAHA so funny.
Firepac420
QUOTE (furball @ Aug 5 2008, 07:49 PM) *
Long live the god emperor Hirohito!


Hirohito was a loser in every sense of the word.
SEArawrage
QUOTE (mkfk1 @ Sep 1 2008, 08:12 PM) *
is not like china or russia are planning invasion of japan any time soon. Why is Japanese wasting money on defence...


Why shouldn't they, safe then sorry. Later on they have a better defence foundation
ClassicalMusic
Japan is a paranoid country, China is not threatening Japan. Only America.
In4ser
Japan is digging herself deeper into a hole. Yes! Invest more into the military to fight a hypothetical enemy, and ignore our debts and demographic problems. China might as well be US under Reagan and Japan and US be Soviet Union under Gorbachev, if fearmongering and military build up continues.
ClassicalMusic
Forget about it and pay down the national debt
KraterosHellas
QUOTE (ClassicalMusic @ Jan 17 2011, 04:36 PM) *
Japan is a paranoid country, China is not threatening Japan. Only America.


so true. well i don't blame the japanese into thinking this way. they gotta blame their problems of impotence somewhere...
mikers20
one warning plane can prevent the missle attack??

whatever the hell is that ,Japanese will pay what they have done some day.It won't be soon
Yerroperil
Agreed, lets see the Japanese apologize for Nanjing massacre,Unit 731 and "comfort women" instead of white washing Japanese history and claiming Japan was the victim
Mauser
QUOTE (Yerroperil @ Jul 27 2011, 05:38 PM) *
Agreed, lets see the Japanese apologize for Nanjing massacre,Unit 731 and "comfort women" instead of white washing Japanese history and claiming Japan was the victim


There's no point in extracting an apology from Japan anymore. I think monetary compensation is enough.
machpunch777
uh oh...

黄兵 are preparing to defend their women and children against china

embarassedlaugh.gif

haha get it? 黄色兵
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