http://www.battlingbastardsbataan.com/som.htm

Well...they probably should as in SHOULD apologize, but as many ransackings and killings of towns in all of history...many dont apologize. It would be to hard on pride,saying that it was wrong and too violent. Im not saying its right, but its the truth in my opinion....

They won't because it never happened in their eyes

most aerial bombing in Philippines was done by american

Collateral damage, as well as the fact that it wouldn't have happened if the Japanese weren't in the Philippines in the first place.

American was there first.

Not another apology thread

because philippines oppenly welcomed Americans, unlike japan.

Japan has awaken America with those surprise attacks at the pearl harbour. And likewise they did the same thing to the Philippines.

Philippines wanted the Americans there. Japan decided to waltz in.

don't believe it's going to happen.

Artemio Ricarte, he would not say so....

Everybody owes apologies for something or other.

an't going to happen. no apologies in war.

If the victims were soldiers then there really isn't much to say. Still you have to obey the laws of war. But these were regular civilians.

What, the fact that he was under Japanese payroll during World War II to lead guerilla operations in Philippines against their own people?

Probably not. The Philippines isn't particularly vocal about it.

check poor Makapili out

How did the United States occupy the Philippines?
How were they able to become independent?

The "poor" Makapili is a militant group that served under the Japanese during the Second World War that has been accused of aiding Japanese war crimes and treasons by the Philippines government. Yeah, that's right -- It's members have been accused of aiding war crimes and treasons and put on trial by their own people and government.



Treaty of Paris in 1898, which Spain handed over Philippines to America.



Treaty of Manila in 1946, which America handed over the control of Philippines to the natives after deeming that they can sufficiently function by themselves.

What else do you need to have answered?

Also remember the Japanese troops slaughtered the civilian population of Manila during its defence against the Americans.

I agree Japan should apoligize. In fact I wish all nations can apoligize and be forgiven for anything bad it committed in the past. Lets all swallow our pride and move forward.

however, more than half of them were killed by US bombing



and
600,000 philippinos were slaughtered by american at that time

I don't know how you know this, as far as I understand unlike in Europe the Americans didn't bomb Asian cities on a large scale. In fact the American policy was always strategic bombing ie specifically precision bombing. It was the British who believed in carpet bombing. Besides with the bombing, any civilan loss was accidental, where as in Manila the Japanese shot civilians in cold blood, unarmed often "execution" style. The Japanese also destroyed almost every building in Manila, in an attempt to remove potential cover for the Americans and to force the Americans into bottlenecks.

dude that was horrific.....I feel Sorry for those people...
In 350 years of Dutch rule in Indonesia..The Japanese has done more horrible things than the dutch in just 3 years...
However some of them did help us to fight for independence, They are a group of people and i guess some people are bad and some don't

to minimize American casualties, they bombed us from a distance.
The Japanese didnt destroy most of our buildings, the Americans did!
Many Filipinos where killed by the japanese and the Americans, the only difference is Americans have send us a lot of aid(not much though) compared to the Japanese.

JAPAN! WHERE THE HELL IS OUR AID?

I'm sorry I didn't realise this, all the reports I've read and documentaries I've seen suggests the Japanese destroyed most of the buildings and certainly killed civilians in cold blood.

Tell me, the documentaries I've seen show MacArthur and the President of the Philipines being cheered as they "returned" to the Phillipines. True or false?

As I've mentioned earlier, collateral damage.



Where and how did you get that figure from? Most of the civilians died from crossfires from both sides, as well as the fact that they were suffering from famine and diseases, not from American troops alone.

According to Philadelphia ''Ledger'' in 1898, you can find wonderful article for U.S

1898 U. S. Military Interventions: CHINA/1898-1900/Troops/Boxer Rebellion fought by foreign armies. PHILIPPINES/1898-1910(-?)/Naval, troops/Seized from Spain, killed 600,000 Filipinos. CUBA/1898-i902(-?)/Naval, troops/Seized from Spain, U.S. still holds Navy base at Guantanamo. PUERTO RICO/1898(-?)/Naval, troops/Seized from Spain, occupation continues. GUAM/1898(-?)/Naval, troops/Seized from Spain, still use as base. MINNESOTA/1898(-?)/Troops/Army battles Chippewa at Leech Lake. NICARAGUA/1898/Troops/Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur. S. Brian Willson, "Who are the Real Terrorists?", citing several sources including William Blum, Killing Hope: U. S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II, Monroe, Maine: common Courage Press, 1995

1898 -- the Philippines


Philippine massacres "By the end of the 19th Century, the Indian warriors had been vanquished, but the army's winning strategies lived on. When the United States claimed the Philippines as a prize in the Spanish-American War, Filipino insurgents resisted. In 1900, the U. S. Commander, Gen. J. Franklin Bell, consciously modeled his brutal counterinsurgency campaign after the Indian wars and Sherman's "march to the sea."....For those outside the protected areas, there was terror. A supportive news correspondent described one scene in which American soldiers killed "men, women, children ... from lads of 10 and up, an idea prevailing that the Filipino, as such, was little better than a dog. ... Our soldiers have pumped salt water into men to 'make them talk,' have taken prisoner people who held up their hands and peacefully surrendered, and an hour later, without an atom of evidence to show they were even insurrectos, stood them on a bridge and shot them down one by one, to drop into the water below and float down as an example to those who found their bullet-riddled corpses." Defending the tactics, the correspondent noted that "it is not civilized warfare, but we are not dealing with a civilized people. The only thing they know and fear is force, violence, and brutality." [Philadelphia Ledger, Nov. 19, 1900] ...."The entire population outside of the major cities in Batangas was herded into concentration camps," wrote historian Stuart Creighton Miller. "Bell's main target was the wealthier and better-educated classes. ... Adding insult to injury, Bell made these people carry the petrol used to burn their own country homes." [See Miller's "Benevolent Assimilation," published in 1982.] Peter Dale Scott, "Two Indonesias, Two Americas"June 9, 1998, The Consortium for Independent Journalism.
http://www.geocities.com/~virtualtruth/date1.htm

http://www.google.com/search?hl=ja&q=P...lippine&lr=

Actually, the article states that during the 12 year period, from 1898 to 1910, 600,000 Filipinos died, but it doesn't specificially mention how they died. It makes no mention of how many were killed from the American "counterinsurgency campaign".

No, they'll never formally apologise. Either love 'em, hate 'em or get over them.

The Japanese being children of notorious war criminals ranging from Hitler all the way to Ishihara Shintaro, would behave no different. Like ancestor like decendant as they all say. Japanese act, speak, and believe all in packs. There is no space for individuality. Japanese believe only what other Japanese belive. And current Japanese would like to go back to 1930s in every every every way possible no matter the cost, Its the destiny of Japan and Japanese as they are educated from elementary that the eight corners of the world belongs to Japan. They are proud of the mention of the war criminals, proud to be called one of them and proud to be racist and proud of their hateful life and proud of enslaving others because Japanese are proud race thinking they are superior.

And that's the way how they supposed to be. One day the Chinese will pay them back as well!!

Wow...thanks for acknowledging your bigotry and racism. So modern day people are the same as their ancestors?

I guess all Koreans and Chinese are dirty, scavenger, lying cheating opium smoking lazy idiots because that's what their ancestors were...also arrogant racists who enslaved women and eat unborn fetuses.

Not my words...yours. You said, that like ancestor like descendant. Thus, since Koreans are descendants of Mongols of whom Genghis Khan was one, then according to you, all Koreans are barbaric violent savage warriors who are set on raping and pillaging civilizations.

Thank you for teaching us this very important fact.

If it did it would mention that the bulk of them did die due to that war. This was the US's big try at colonialism. We wound up giving up on it after that, but our treatment of the Philippines was not very nice. Not very many Americans really know about the campaign in the Philippines- it was more than 100 years ago. But this is why I think it would be wise for everyone to stop b!tching about atrocities committed more than 50 years ago. The fact that you're around means that your ancestors were better at killing than the people who didn't wind up leaving ancestors.

The alternative is to have the same tired argument every day.. "Hiroshima.. Nanking... Pearl Harbor..." If that floats your boat, OK, but there's not much point to it as far as I can see. Show me a nation that hasn't absolutely fu-ked somebody over and I'll show you a nation that got buried in the mudslide of history.

Do you really believe that those narrow-minded island people would ever apologize for the war crime they committed?
You are so naive.


And you know what? Japanese gov on the other hands asked for an apology when an American submariner raped a Japanese school girl.

Will they ever apologize?

No.

Not like apologizing will do anything in the long run, and it'll look like appeasement.

The winners write the history books. If Japan and Germany would have won the war then they would be the ones asking for apologies and reparations.

Honestly why do keep bringing back something that happened like 70 yrs ago?

Even your parents were not born so what are you screaming about? It's not like your countries are producing angels.

YOU ARE GUILTY

GOD..... this is what im saying.

And, will Japan ever formally apologize for this?
On December 13, 1937,Nanjing was sacked.In the following six weeks,the Japanese Army committed extremely horrible crimes,murdering innocent people.In Nanjing more than 300,000 innocent citizens and unarmed soldiers were slaughtered.The ancient capital Nanjing suffered an unprecedented catastrophe and was turned into a living hell.

http://www.nj1937.org/english/massacre_3.asp
http://www.nj1937.org/english/show_massacre.asp?id=36

WAR DAMAGE IN THE NANKING AREA
December, 1937 to March, 1938
Dr.Lewis S. C. Smythe(Professor of Sociology, University of Nanking)AND ASSISTANTS
http://www.history.gr.jp/~nanking/LSCSmythe.pdf

China never asked for it.