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Byron
ROK minister says Vietnam will may catch up with the Republic of South Korea in technology production in 10 years.

http://www.vnagency.com.vn/NewsA.asp?LANGU...&NEWS_ID=111576

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Korea gives priority to Viet Nam in technology transfer
  08/01/2004 -- 21:40(GMT+7) 
 
Ha Noi, Aug. 1 (VNA) - The Government and companies of the Republic of Korea (RoK) consider Viet Nam one of their top priority partners in technology selling and transfer, said Choi Beng Gu, RoK Minister Counsellor in Viet Nam at the opening of the 2004 RoK Technology Fair in Ha Noi on Friday.

He cited a number of programmes and projects that the RoK has implemented to help Viet Nam train skilled workers and develop technology, the latest being a project to build the Viet Nam-RoK Information Technology College.

With the current pace and if Viet Nam exerts itself, it will be able to catch up with the RoK in production technology in 10 years, Choi said, adding that he praised the Vietnamese people's intelligence, learning capacity and industriousness.

He called on the Vietnamese Government and businesses to pay more attention to cooperation with the RoK side in technology transfer, especially in high-tech industries.

The RoK Technology Fair in Ha Noi attracted more than 200 Vietnamese companies and research centres, who hoped to find partners among the 24 RoK companies, who brought 38 new technologies to the event. Sixteen memorandums of understanding on cooperation and technology transfer were signed between Vietnamese and RoK companies on its first day.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Thank you Đại Hàn Minh Quốc (DaeHan MinGuk). biggrin.gif
Byron
Hope to see you all in 2014. Hopefully by 2020, our country will be prosperous and will be one of the leading countries in economy in South East Asia as predicted by Bloomsberg. icon_smile.gif
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Yes I'll see you in 2014... unless you die early of course embarassedlaugh.gif biggrin.gif jk
Byron
edit I'm not Christian anymore.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Then you can't see the glorious future of Vietnam. Tough luck icon_confused.gif shrug.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
Byron
EDIT I'm not Christian anymore.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 1 2004, 08:55 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 1 2004, 08:53 PM)
Then you can't see the glorious future of Vietnam. Tough luck icon_confused.gif  shrug.gif  embarassedlaugh.gif

God comes before Vietnam.

Vietnam comes before religion. I'm not sure whether God exists icon_confused.gif
Byron
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 1 2004, 08:56 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 1 2004, 08:55 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 1 2004, 08:53 PM)
Then you can't see the glorious future of Vietnam. Tough luck icon_confused.gif  shrug.gif  embarassedlaugh.gif

God comes before Vietnam.

Vietnam comes before religion. I'm not sure whether God exists icon_confused.gif

I thought you were muslim?
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 1 2004, 08:59 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 1 2004, 08:56 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 1 2004, 08:55 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 1 2004, 08:53 PM)
Then you can't see the glorious future of Vietnam. Tough luck icon_confused.gif  shrug.gif  embarassedlaugh.gif

God comes before Vietnam.

Vietnam comes before religion. I'm not sure whether God exists icon_confused.gif

I thought you were muslim?

I'm a secular Muslim. Actually, I'm a Muslim by birth but I chose to remain Muslim for the sake of family harmony. I'm an Atheist at heart.
Byron
What makes you believe God doesn't exist?
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 1 2004, 09:05 PM)
What makes you believe God doesn't exist?

What makes you believe God exists? Show me some proof. Have God spoken to you? icon_rolleyes.gif
Byron
Oh I didn't say your beliefs were wrong or anything. I'm just curious as what made a born muslim become athiest. That's all.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
I've grown up in a western society and have learnt many things that my parents and grandparents have been devoid of, hence I can more a more informed choice base on what I've learnt and experienced. But yes I do pray and hope that God does exist.

But since I'm a bad Muslim, I'd probably be going to hell if God exists embarassedlaugh.gif icon_redface.gif icon_sad.gif
Byron
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 1 2004, 09:12 PM)
I've grown up in a western society and have learnt many things that my parents and grandparents have been devoid of, hence I can more a more informed choice base on what I've learnt and experienced. But yes I do pray and hope that God does exist.

But since I'm a bad Muslim, I'd probably be going to hell if God exists embarassedlaugh.gif icon_redface.gif icon_sad.gif

Just do what you feel is right.
Huynh
hey back in the greek time they didnt believe in god and they have so much beaty and advancement.
In the middle age they believe in god and their whole society is going backward
now we belive in god but not as much and thing r getting better.
so should we believe in god u decide
but im believe in god
Byron
Uh Ancient greeks believed in the greek gods. They even have statues of them. Hell even Alexander the Great(One of the greatest generals ever) believed himself to be divine and one of the greek gods. So ancient greeks did believe in gods.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
I don't think religion is the best thing humanity has invented. Since the dawn of human civilisation, people has either gone to war because of race, resources or religion. icon_rolleyes.gif
Huynh
yea but not in the after live like christian their god r like human they have sex drive and pleasure
Byron
Religion had some good benefits. A lot of good rules came out of it like "no sex before marriage" and if people actually followed these rules we wouldn't have aids, and also other rules like washing after certain procedures or moral rules seem to keep people under good behaviour at times. Well there are extremist as well though.
Huynh
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 1 2004, 09:25 PM)
Religion had some good benefits. A lot of good rules came out of it like "no sex before marriage" and if people actually followed these rules we wouldn't have aids, and also other rules like washing after certain procedures or moral rules seem to keep people under good behaviour at times. Well there are extremist as well though.

yes i agreed but still it should only be part of your life not the center of it
vn1234
haha this thread is starting to mutate into a debate

anyways groove to VN for teching! whoo hoo - can wait to see how VN will do
Byron
QUOTE (Huynh @ Aug 1 2004, 09:27 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 1 2004, 09:25 PM)
Religion had some good benefits.  A lot of good rules came out of it like "no sex before marriage" and if people actually followed these rules we wouldn't have aids, and also other rules like washing after certain procedures or moral rules seem to keep people under good behaviour at times.  Well there are extremist as well though.

yes i agreed but still it should only be part of your life not the center of it

What if your religion commands you to do so? If you truly believe in your religion and if it commands you to put it first in your life then why not? If you don't, then do you really believe in it?
lthv22
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 1 2004, 09:51 PM)
QUOTE (Huynh @ Aug 1 2004, 09:27 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 1 2004, 09:25 PM)
Religion had some good benefits.  A lot of good rules came out of it like "no sex before marriage" and if people actually followed these rules we wouldn't have aids, and also other rules like washing after certain procedures or moral rules seem to keep people under good behaviour at times.  Well there are extremist as well though.

yes i agreed but still it should only be part of your life not the center of it

What if your religion commands you to do so? If you truly believe in your religion and if it commands you to put it first in your life then why not? If you don't, then do you really believe in it?

Byron,

If you curious, why don't you read the entire thread:
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...pic=12693&st=30

beerchug.gif
Huynh
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 1 2004, 09:51 PM)
QUOTE (Huynh @ Aug 1 2004, 09:27 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Aug 1 2004, 09:25 PM)
Religion had some good benefits.  A lot of good rules came out of it like "no sex before marriage" and if people actually followed these rules we wouldn't have aids, and also other rules like washing after certain procedures or moral rules seem to keep people under good behaviour at times.  Well there are extremist as well though.

yes i agreed but still it should only be part of your life not the center of it

What if your religion commands you to do so? If you truly believe in your religion and if it commands you to put it first in your life then why not? If you don't, then do you really believe in it?

if my religion tell me to go kill innocent women and child in the name of my god.
i would have to said no cause god is there for guidess and forgiveness not murder of the innocent
holy war r start by human not god
blank book
People should learn to keep their religious views and beliefs to themselves.
Clean
Religion is simply a guide. You can believe in it as much as you want, but when it comes to choosing God over my people, i would never do it. If there is a god, he would reward me for that, protecting the people i love and giving them what they need.

Religion is simply a guide in life, that's my view.
gooner
QUOTE (blank book @ Aug 2 2004, 01:20 PM)
People should learn to keep their religious views and beliefs to themselves.

This man speaketh the truth. beerchug.gif

I don't mind religion, as long as you keep out of my face and stop trying to stuff your views and beliefs down other people's throat. There's nothing I hate more than evangelical religious types.
Rocky Cuong V
embarassedlaugh.gif Lets hope these guy ain't bull$hiting.
I don't we can do it!
aaronly
QUOTE (Cuong @ Aug 1 2004, 11:18 PM)
embarassedlaugh.gif Lets hope these guy ain't bull$hiting.
I don't we can do it!

you sound like rockheart now
Johannjs
QUOTE (gooner @ Aug 1 2004, 08:43 PM)
QUOTE (blank book @ Aug 2 2004, 01:20 PM)
People should learn to keep their religious views and beliefs to themselves.

This man speaketh the truth. beerchug.gif

I don't mind religion, as long as you keep out of my face and stop trying to stuff your views and beliefs down other people's throat. There's nothing I hate more than evangelical religious types.

I agree with both of you!

But I don't mind the talking in private, like in that thread about beliefs.

In those times when there were no people's education/instruction, religion did some good job, probably. Nowadays, experimentally, it shows exactly how, why, where and when a human's mind/intelligence is limited/framed.

Never mind beerchug.gif

OK.

"ROK Minister says Vietnam may catch up in tech. "

So, eventually, some god gave Vietnam permission to catch up?that's very kind of him/her!
Nero874
Byron, what's your religion, specifically?
Nam Quoc Son Ha
He's a Catholic. What else.

A Christian extremist can just be as hardcore as an Islamic fundamentalist. icon_rolleyes.gif
Nero874
That's what I was thinking too, since most Viet Christians are Catholics - but I do remember his string of Catholic bashing threads...so...?
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Well he's got a problem with his own religion. LOL jk embarassedlaugh.gif

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So, eventually, some god gave Vietnam permission to catch up?that's very kind of him/her

LOL good on you for spotting the ill conceived phrase. It would have been better had it been phrased differently, like "may be" or "might". biggrin.gif
Johannjs
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 2 2004, 01:42 AM)
Well he's got a problem with his own religion. LOL jk embarassedlaugh.gif

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So, eventually, some god gave Vietnam permission to catch up?that's very kind of him/her

LOL good on you for spotting the ill conceived phrase. It would have been better had it been phrased differently, like "may be" or "might". biggrin.gif

I'm a linguist...

I think it was "will" = a certitude.

Off-topic: is it nearly 20:00 hours by you in Australia? something special going on at this time of the evening? the news on TV or something?
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (Johannjs @ Aug 2 2004, 03:46 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 2 2004, 01:42 AM)
Well he's got a problem with his own religion. LOL jk  embarassedlaugh.gif

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So, eventually, some god gave Vietnam permission to catch up?that's very kind of him/her

LOL good on you for spotting the ill conceived phrase. It would have been better had it been phrased differently, like "may be" or "might". biggrin.gif

I'm a linguist...

I think it was "will" = a certitude.

Off-topic: is it nearly 20:00 hours by you in Australia? something special going on at this time of the evening? the news on TV or something?

Wrong. "Will" denote certainty that it will occur in the future. The point is we don't know whether Vietnam will achieve it or not so "will" not an appropriate word. "may be" or "might" seems to be more appropriate to me. biggrin.gif

If you know what's on Australian TV tonight, well nothing much. All crappy movies and shows. Besides, we only have 5 channels so that's even crappier. embarassedlaugh.gif

Go to this site if you wanna see what's on offer to night. This is the site that I go to to decide what I'm going to do for the rest of the night... except going out of course
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/TV/static/SydneyNight.html?

Anyway, I've just borrowed heaps of videos from my local video library so it doesn't matter. Let's see, there's a Thai horror movie, one about Sea Games in Hanoi, one Vietnamese comedy, one Hong Kong comedy and one about fruits and leisure in the Mekong Delta.
Johannjs
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 2 2004, 01:52 AM)
QUOTE (Johannjs @ Aug 2 2004, 03:46 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Aug 2 2004, 01:42 AM)
Well he's got a problem with his own religion. LOL jk  embarassedlaugh.gif

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"ROK Minister says Vietnam may catch up in tech. (Pages 1 2 ) "

So, eventually, some god gave Vietnam permission to catch up?that's very kind of him/her

LOL good on you for spotting the ill conceived phrase. It would have been better had it been phrased differently, like "may be" or "might". biggrin.gif

I'm a linguist...

I think it was "will" = a certitude.

Off-topic: is it nearly 20:00 hours by you in Australia? something special going on at this time of the evening? the news on TV or something?

Wrong. "Will" denote certainty that it will occur in the future. The point is we don't know whether Vietnam will achieve it or not so "will" not an appropriate word. "may be" or "might" seems to be more appropriate to me. biggrin.gif
If you know what's on Australian TV tonight, well nothing much. All crappy movies and shows. Besides, we only have 5 channels so that's even crappier. embarassedlaugh.gif

Go to this site if you wanna see what's on offer to night. This is the site that I go to to decide what I'm going to do for the rest of the night... except going out of course
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/TV/static/SydneyNight.html?

Anyway, I've just borrowed heaps of videos from my local video library so it doesn't matter. Let's see, there's a Thai horror movie, one about Sea Games in Hanoi, one Vietnamese comedy, one Hong Kong comedy and one about fruits and leisure in the Mekong Delta.


Thank you... there're lots of VCD about places in Vietnam I should have bought when I was there. We do have already a lot of very good videos/DVD about Vietnam in France. I must watch them.
Here in Europe we have some 800 TV channels (~200 are free, direct from satellite, including those in Arabic, Turkish, Greek, + one VTV of Vietnam)... Lots of films, documentaries, reportages, debates. Need time to!
In Paris, exactly at 20:00 hours local time, there is 30 minutes News on all French TV channels.

You sound as if you will not bet for sure on Vietnam's future!

Strong WILL is the right word. IT IS A CERTITUDE, seeing how many countries are eager to invest and help Vietnam. France has been pushing all the EU member countries to invest in Vietnam since well before the end of US embargo. The EU is not anti-communist.

So, UNLESS there is a new war. The next right word would be WOULD = certitude, just with usual conditional, just in case.

(If it was MAY BE or MIGHT, any serious officials wouldn't even talk about it - because, that, anyone can say... Byron, for instance! biggrin.gif )

Seems to have been this:
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With the current pace and if Viet Nam exerts itself, it will be able to catch up with the RoK in production technology in 10 years, Choi said, adding that he praised the Vietnamese people's intelligence, learning capacity and industriousness.

And this really was a very weak IF...
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