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Bhaskara
Yes, we share similarities through Riau, but Nusantara is a Javanese word, which got nothing to do with Melayu Riau.
mahatir
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Well, the terms Nusantara appeared in ol Malay dictionaries since 1920s onwards. Regardless, the term 'Nusa Bangsa' appears much earlier in some ol' malay manuscripts.

wow... which dictionary is it? can you mention it?

QUOTE(Protoculture @ Nov 8 2007, 04:49 AM) [snapback]3303632[/snapback]
Since Bahasa Malaysia & Bahasa Indonesia shared the common links with Bahasa Melayu Johor Riau (or Riau-Lingga in Indo), inevitably, the term Nusantara were shared interchangeably. It must be known, early Malayan & Indonesian nationalists were compatriots during 1900s to late 1940s period, so the ideals were pretty much commonly shared.

The best example .... the term, "MERDEKA".

Well, your argument still considered as a claim if you can't tell the fact, may be you can start to mention a name, time and which manuscript? since malaysian sometimes misunderstood of indonesian independence history to malaysian given independence history.
Protoculture
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Yes, we share similarities through Riau, but Nusantara is a Javanese word, which got nothing to do with Melayu Riau.


The Melayu-Riau adopted the term Nusantara. Especially in Johore, whose Malay ethnicities practically the same as those from Riau Lingga, have assimilating many Javanese migrants that migrated to Malaya since 1880s onwards.

So we inherited the term Nusantara as well. Not to mention, many Indonesian & Malayan nationalists (1920s - 1940s)shared much common language back then in communicating their ideas, through modern Malay Riau slang.
Protoculture
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wow... which dictionary is it? can you mention it?


Sigh, do I need too? Its an ol' family keepsake, written in Jawi. It was published circa 1920s period as teaching module in one of the religious school (sekolah pondok) aka 'pesantren' (in Indo) ran by my late grandfather.

Do your own research. Since you claim you're in MY, just go to MY National Archive.
Protoculture
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Well, your argument still considered as a claim if you can't tell the fact, may be you can start to mention a name, time and which manuscript? since malaysian sometimes misunderstood of indonesian independence history to malaysian given independence history.


I clearly knows how your country got its independence.

Say what you will, that's your prerogative. Since you claim as the expert, then do your own research.

If you've time, consult with MY linguistic expert, since you're hell bent on the matter ....
mahatir
QUOTE(Protoculture @ Nov 15 2007, 12:26 AM) [snapback]3313331[/snapback]
I clearly knows how your country got its independence.

Say what you will, that's your prerogative. Since you claim as the expert, then do your own research.

If you've time, consult with MY linguistic expert, since you're hell bent on the matter ....

Actually i'am not sure why there are such tendentious from you. I am never saying i am the expert, in fact i just an originally guy who can't accept any action to hide the truth. And this spirit had been posses young indonesian, and this spirit also who inspired us to make revolution in 1998.

At that time our government always hide the truth for example, they give high price at the opening of highway and then after few months they start saying that the government are very generous to cut the highway price in the name of citizen.
I will accept any version of the history as long as that version is the truth.

Hiding the source of your argument are considered as hiding the truth, and your argument are strongly rewarded as a deception argument. Your act also showing that you do not have any good willing to solve the problem at humanize way.
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