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supernovasp
I like this flag


I think the communist goverment flag makes Vietnam looks like a province of China .
vn1234
haha - i think the commie flag is an international design by roots but the chinese made it world reknown so that why lol

me - i like the oldskool flags of Dai Viet and the ones Hai Ba Trung carried on elephants

these new ones are ok - we need one of internation specs for political matters, but the yellow and red stripes and all the derivatives - arent they french designs? - ima not to clear on this
Zhu_Rong_Ji
What's the flag Byron has in his avatar ? confused.gif
supernovasp
QUOTE (vn1234 @ Jul 28 2004, 02:54 PM)
haha - i think the commie flag is an international design by roots but the chinese made it world reknown so that why lol

me - i like the oldskool flags of Dai Viet and the ones Hai Ba Trung carried on elephants

these new ones are ok - we need one of internation specs for political matters, but the yellow and red stripes and all the derivatives - arent they french designs? - ima not to clear on this

I don't know but it's obviously that the Vietnamese communist government copied it from the Chinese icon_rolleyes.gif
supernovasp
QUOTE (Zhu_Rong_Ji @ Jul 28 2004, 02:55 PM)
What's the flag Byron has in his avatar ? confused.gif

Viet cong's flag.

There were three flags.

The northern communist one is the official one

The one Byron has is the Viet cong ones (who lived in southern vietnam but believe that they need to drive out the americans)

and the third one is former southern vietnam goverment.
vn1234
personally im not too fluent in the history of flags - i just know that communist architecture in vn is not modelled too closely like asian layout cause its supposed to be international cause the ideology is "supposed" to be international and not bounded by race

your prob right supernovasp, cause no where have i heard you need starsand the colors yellow and red to be a commie - lol
supernovasp
QUOTE (vn1234 @ Jul 28 2004, 03:00 PM)
personally im not too fluent in the history of flags - i just know that communist architecture in vn is not modelled too closely like asian layout cause its supposed to be international cause the ideology is "supposed" to be international and not bounded by race

your prob right supernovasp, cause no where have i heard you need starsand the colors yellow and red to be a commie - lol

I think the international communist one is something like this without the circular thingy

vn1234
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ngo.ngochy
QUOTE (vn1234 @ Jul 28 2004, 02:54 PM)
haha - i think the commie flag is an international design by roots but the chinese made it world reknown so that why lol

me - i like the oldskool flags of Dai Viet and the ones Hai Ba Trung carried on elephants

these new ones are ok - we need one of internation specs for political matters, but the yellow and red stripes and all the derivatives - arent they french designs? - ima not to clear on this

Me too beerchug.gif I love the one in Dai Viet's old avatar. I think we should use that, all the flags now look so flat.


I was told that the flag with yellow stipes was created by a Vietnamese. His lastname was Ly. icon_confused.gif
dalawapo
i dont see any of the flags ! icon_sad.gif
vn1234
you need nightvision goggles like me to see them

haha sorry we're all takin about flags we've seen in books and other pics
dalawapo
u better sleep with one eye open coz i just might steal yours! icon_neutral.gif
herosword
Yeah, red used as background is ugly because it places too much emphasis on warfare and killing. Yellow as a background stresses the common unity of the Vietnamese people and the progress we strive to make.

Even if the flag was changed however, what matter more is what the flag represents. So if the Viet govt adopted red, blue and white, it wouldn't changed my opinion one bit about it unless it also undergo substanial reforms.
Huynh
i kind of like both flag but what i hate is that if u go to the US and put the red flag the viet ppl here would get piss and if u go to vietnam and put the yellow flag the ppl over there would get piss confused.gif
that y dont have any flags on my car like all the other race. confused.gif
DaiNamViet
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Jul 28 2004, 03:48 PM)
I like this flag


I think the communist goverment flag makes Vietnam looks like a province of China .

Yes this one is definitely nice.. beerchug.gif
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Jul 29 2004, 02:00 AM)
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Jul 28 2004, 03:48 PM)
I like this flag


I think the communist goverment flag makes Vietnam looks like a province of China .

Yes this one is definitely nice.. beerchug.gif

I think the flag is too bright. I think we should have an international design competition for the Vietnamese flag. Competition is only open for Vietnamese in Vietnam and overseas and using the traditional Vietnamese colours, yellow and red (what else). But anyway, don't you think it's gonna be cool? icon_wink.gif
DaiNamViet
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 29 2004, 03:26 AM)
I think the flag is too bright. I think we should have an international design competition for the Vietnamese flag. Competition is only open for Vietnamese in Vietnam and overseas and using the traditional Vietnamese colours, yellow and red (what else). But anyway, don't you think it's gonna be cool? icon_wink.gif

Yea, come to think of it ,, it may signify division once again, notice the two halves (yellows) ? .. I agree there should be a Vietnamese flag competition to see which is best.. beerchug.gif .. I don't like the communist flag...
Johannjs
so nobody got the flags pics? here are these three I've designed. I'll try to find older flags.


=Flag of Independant Vietnam, 1945

Red represents success and revolution. The five points of the stars represent the workers, the peasants, the soldiers, the intellectuals and the young.



=Flag of old "South Vietnam Empire", of last emperor Bao Dai, 1954
=Flag of old "South Vietnam Republic", Ngo Dinh Diem, Nguyen Van Thieu, etc etc.



=flag of the Army of the South Vietnam Liberation Front, 1963
=flag of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of South Vietnam


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color signification
yellow = skin (outside)
red = blood (inside)
that's Vovinam (Viet Vo Dao) coding for the grade belts.

So the SVN flag said: 3 same blood (same color) flowing. Probably North + Central + South.

I have same preference as Byron's.

But we can also try to design a new red flag with yellow Vietnam map outlines. The star is an Occidental design. Probably bourgeois Christian.
Bchung
if you just look at the Chinese and Vietnamese flag, without anysort of knowledge the two nations. I think ppl will think the Viet one is the big brother, hey it got this BIG STAR IN THE MIDDLE.

For some reasons asian ppl like using the stars, maybe because Stars are yellow which matches our skin color. If i am correct one of the reasons why stars are used in the current chinese flag is because of the color.
vn1234
QUOTE (Johannjs @ Jul 29 2004, 01:50 AM)
***
color signification
yellow = skin (outside)
red = blood (inside)
that's Vovinam (Viet Vo Dao) coding for the grade belts.

yeah thats what i heard - the first belt is the black cause then your noob and the skillz have only seeped into your black hair

kinda reverse from the norm - but coo cause it has meaning

flags eh? iono - ima scared of red and yellow now - seen too much of those colors
blank book
QUOTE
For some reasons asian ppl like using the stars, maybe because Stars are yellow which matches our skin color. If i am correct one of the reasons why stars are used in the current chinese flag is because of the color.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought only Vietnam, China and North Korea placed stars in their flags, and North Korea's star isn't yellow.
Bchung
stars represent something. I am trying to remember.....................

singapore has stars and i am pretty sure there is still one or more that has stars on their flags, although not yellow.
herosword
QUOTE (Huynh @ Jul 28 2004, 05:03 PM)
i kind of like both flag but what i hate is that if u go to the US and put the red flag the viet ppl here would get piss and if u go to vietnam and put the yellow flag the ppl over there would get piss confused.gif
that y dont have any flags on my car like all the other race. confused.gif

Haha...well just put the yellow flag with three stripes in your car when you're over here. When you go back to Vietnam don't worry about t. I don't see average Vietnameses in Saigon hang up the communist flag in their home unless they worked for the govt.
Byron
I think the South Vietnamese flag is just ugly looking.

I think we should use the communist flag but get rid of the yellow star in the middle and replace it with a swastika instead. icon_smile.gif
Huynh
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 29 2004, 09:48 AM)
I think the South Vietnamese flag is just ugly looking.

I think we should use the communist flag but get rid of the yellow star in the middle and replace it with a swastika instead. icon_smile.gif

dude isnt that a symble for the nazi sure.gif
PervertBurger
QUOTE (Huynh @ Jul 29 2004, 09:59 AM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 29 2004, 09:48 AM)
I think the South Vietnamese flag is just ugly looking.

I think we should use the communist flag but get rid of the yellow star in the middle and replace it with a swastika instead.  icon_smile.gif

dude isnt that a symble for the nazi sure.gif

Yeah sure.gif

swastika wouldn't be a good idea even though it was originally ment for good intentions.
Its history has been corrupted and I don't think Viet Nam would get much respect from any country if it used it.
Byron
I'm just kidding.
Huynh
what we need is just one flag where everyone can recomnies us and we can be unity under one country one flag and one goal. beerchug.gif
chosenone22
QUOTE (Huynh @ Jul 29 2004, 09:59 AM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 29 2004, 09:48 AM)
I think the South Vietnamese flag is just ugly looking.

I think we should use the communist flag but get rid of the yellow star in the middle and replace it with a swastika instead.  icon_smile.gif

dude isnt that a symble for the nazi sure.gif

agree. damn i hate the south vietnamese flag. makes me want to puke!
and the swastika originally is a hindu symbol and followed by other Indic religions like buddhisms etc. used in designs all over asia. but the nazis made it famous by using it as thier symbol. now ever time people see a swastika they think nazi.
chinowei
yeah..it don't loook good.. chinese will call it tai tu le..太土了。。
fiji
I like the star. Every flag either has stars, moon, sun, or stripes. I want Vietnam to get rid of the red flag because it's just a replica of one of fukien is it? We should have a flag convention and have artists design a new flag that would truly represent the people of Vietnam. Forget the yellow with stripes or the red with star, let's have one for the future for one Vietnam.
Huynh
QUOTE (fiji @ Jul 29 2004, 09:39 PM)
I like the star. Every flag either has stars, moon, sun, or stripes. I want Vietnam to get rid of the red flag because it's just a replica of one of fukien is it? We should have a flag convention and have artists design a new flag that would truly represent the people of Vietnam. Forget the yellow with stripes or the red with star, let's have one for the future for one Vietnam.

agreed beerchug.gif
Huynh
hey y dont u guy draw some flag and post the flag got to have meaning or at least look good
Libertyvc
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Jul 28 2004, 01:48 PM) [snapback]331907[/snapback]

I like this flag
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I think the communist goverment flag makes Vietnam looks like a province of China .



The more you talk, the stupid you are.
Do you know that our flag has presented officially since 2nd Sep 1945 while Chinese's flag has just appeared since 1949.

Your Vietnanese ancestor feel ashamed of you.
Libertyvc
QUOTE(herosword @ Jul 29 2004, 08:46 AM) [snapback]333801[/snapback]

Haha...well just put the yellow flag with three stripes in your car when you're over here. When you go back to Vietnam don't worry about t. I don't see average Vietnameses in Saigon hang up the communist flag in their home unless they worked for the govt.



I am staying in Saigon. It is funny for what you talk as above. Most of Vietnamese in Saigon hang up the red flag whenever they can.

They love red flag.

I am too.

etalkishere
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Jul 28 2004, 01:48 PM) [snapback]331907[/snapback]

I like this flag
I think the communist goverment flag makes Vietnam looks like a province of China .


Not just that, we need a new flag to unify a new Vietnam. I am sick and tired of overseas Viet and Viet of fighting over VNCH and CSVN flags. These flags divide Vietnam.
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