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ASIANHero
In 1945 american drop 2 nuclear bomb in Japan [ Hiroshima and Nagasaki ] causing over 500.000 Japanese died and over 10 millions other Japanese suffered by radiation effect. The radiation effect victims of the american nukes have to pass their suffering into their next generation even today. Many of their babies born without proper anatomy and many others inherit fatal disease since they were born. After the day of the american nuke into Japan, the american also have placing around 100.000 of their army in Japan even to this day [ mostly in Okinawa and Yokomaha ]. Or on other words the american are occupying Japan because the presence of their army in Japan are not requested by the Japanese government especially the Japanese peoples themselves, just how the american occupy Iraq today.

What worse than what happened in Iraq today is the american also enforcing several laws with the intention to chain Japan, one of those laws the american enforce to Japan since 1947 are not allowing Japan to have military force, making Japan a very-very weak country to any other countries, making the american can easily do whatever they want into Japan and the Japanese. There is JSDF or Japan Special Defense Force but their numbers are very-very small and their weaponry are limited, you can say JSDF are just posers in military uniform. Thanks to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, in April 2007 for the first time in Japan history the Japanese finally able to gain military strength, soon all the american army in Japan will kicked out to where they belong.
The other law the american enforce to Japan since 1947 are not allowing the Japanese to teach patriotism to the Japanese youth. It makes most of the Japanese [ not just the Japanese youth ] in the present have less nationalism, a country with less nationalism are very easily to get conquered by the other countries. Instead of helping to rebuild Japan after the american nuke it, the american also forcing Japan to pay a very big war debt.

The most worse thing the american army did are racial rape that is not only in the past but even in the present
- Over 29.859 Japanese girls racially raped by the american army during their occupation period of seven years in Japan.
<a href="http://www8.atwiki.jp/holhol15/pages/141.html" target="_blank">- September 1949, a nine month old baby Japanese girl was sexually assaulted by an american soldier.
- September 1955, a 6 year old Japanese girl named Yumiko racially raped then murdered by an american officer in Japan.
- September 1995, a 12 years old Japanese school girl racially gang raped brutally by 3 american in Okinawa.</a>
- June 2003 a 19 year old Japanese girls racially raped by an american marine in Okinawa.
- The latest american incesity in Japan was in July 2007 when a 19 years old american trying to kill 2 Japanese girls in Yokosuka because they deny him when he force them to have sex.
Those information are just a few of the many information that are based on the Japanese own media and Japanese information about the american racial rape over the Japanese girls in Japan. All the link directly come from Japan or from where the victim of those american occupation come from, so it is a reliable source. There also many racial rape attempt that fail the american did to the Japanese girls but we don't think the information are needed so we will not putting the link except if you wish to know about it you can.

There maybe those who will say about what the Japanese did in China such as saying about rape in Nanking, that is just another lie the american made to justify their invasion and incesity into Japan and the Japanese. What funny and pathetic is they were using China as an excuse to justify their invasion and incesity into Japan and the Japanese while those american are not Chinese or the Chinese never ask those american to help China during or to ask those american to occupy Japan.
I'm sure you still remember how the american lied for over almost 20 years about how Iraq having world mass destruct weapon while their true intentions are just to justify their invasion into Iraq that occurred in 2002 ago [ still occurred even today ] because even to this day there is no proof of world mass destruct weapon found in Iraq proving that the american have lied.

Another fact about what the Japanese did in Asia during WW2 :
Japan invade Indonesia in 1941 but the invasion turn as a very benefical things for the Indonesian because before Japan invade Indonesia, Indonesia have been invaded first by Netherland for almost 350 years. Japan invasion into Indonesia giving the Indonesian freedom from the Netherland 350 years invasion in 1945.

Even after the american nuke Japan, the Japanese in Indonesia were not running away from Indonesia but they choose to fight together with the Indonesian to death in order to protect the Indonesian freedom. Because after Netherland kicked out from Indonesia they still launching their 2nd invasion over Indonesia in order to take Indonesia back into their feet. Not only Netherland but a few European countrys such as England, Portugese also invade Indonesia.
The TNI [ Tentara Nasional Indonesia ] or Indonesian National Army that still exist even today were also formed by the Japanese that were born from PETA [ Pembela Tanah Air ]. Japanese are hero for Indonesian based on Indonesian own history book.

For any Asian especially Japanese who love and proud of their homeland, please help the freedom of our homeland by spreading this topic in any other forum you are a member of. Don't let more of us suffering.
Shao
American occupation was over in 1952, but surely, Japan is still under American's interest.
MethodMan
LOL, this is that 'Proud ASIAN' guy.

He was supposedly revealed to be a white guy (or at least half white). Although judging by how much he's talked about Indonesia, he might be Indonesian.

Anyway, with North Korea acting up and China threatening Taiwan, I think America's presence in Japan promotes stability. They should stay.
moobie
Japan and Korea are 100% capable of protecting themselves and developing their own military technology. Americans just aggravate conflicts and fu-k up the peace process. American support of the DDP and a hardline stance against North Korea apparently haven't helped things; they had their chance, now get the fu-k out.
ASIANHero
QUOTE(moobie @ Aug 16 2007, 04:09 AM) [snapback]3137104[/snapback]
Japan and Korea are 100% capable of protecting themselves and developing their own military technology. Americans just aggravate conflicts and fu-k up the peace process. American support of the DDP and a hardline stance against North Korea apparently haven't helped things; they had their chance, now get the fu-k out.

True
tinman01
Most americans would love to pull our troops out. Save the billions in tax dollars wasted on bases over seas. Believe it or not most americans are against such waste and against nation building. Hell I wish we would kick the UN out of our country. 18 months UN duty cured me of ever wanting them here.
Type98G
No, the jailers should not be allow to leave.
RAWRZ
QUOTE(ASIANHero @ Aug 15 2007, 05:53 AM) [snapback]3136514[/snapback]
Another fact about what the Japanese did in Asia during WW2 :
Japan invade Indonesia in 1941 but the invasion turn as a very benefical things for the Indonesian because before Japan invade Indonesia, Indonesia have been invaded first by Netherland for almost 350 years. Japan invasion into Indonesia giving the Indonesian freedom from the Netherland 350 years invasion in 1945.

Even after the american nuke Japan, the Japanese in Indonesia were not running away from Indonesia but they choose to fight together with the Indonesian to death in order to protect the Indonesian freedom. Because after Netherland kicked out from Indonesia they still launching their 2nd invasion over Indonesia in order to take Indonesia back into their feet. Not only Netherland but a few European countrys such as England, Portugese also invade Indonesia.
The TNI [ Tentara Nasional Indonesia ] or Indonesian National Army that still exist even today were also formed by the Japanese that were born from PETA [ Pembela Tanah Air ]. Japanese are hero for Indonesian based on Indonesian own history book.


Yeah, it's too bad that the Japanese didn't do that for the Philipines...or China....or Korea....or any other nation the facist government invaded and terrorized. embarassedlaugh.gif
Bulldogg
QUOTE(Shao @ Aug 15 2007, 10:37 AM) [snapback]3136634[/snapback]
Japan is still under American's interest.


I personally think America's interest is to not let their foot hold off that region, with their presence their they can monitor more easily on what is happening across the ocean from mainland U.S.A to their advantage be it military or economy.
beckiiChroma
QUOTE(RAWRZ @ Aug 22 2007, 02:08 PM) [snapback]3154705[/snapback]
Yeah, it's too bad that the Japanese didn't do that for the Philipines...or China....or Korea....or any other nation the facist government invaded and terrorized. embarassedlaugh.gif



haha truee.
ASIANHero
Right now prime minister Shinzo Abe are trying to break the american law of not allowing Japanese to teach patriotism to their youth. I'm sure there will be more and more Japanese who will rise.

PM Shinzo Abe rules!
SkyLegenD
Sorry, but without the United States all these years helping Japan, it wouldn't be such a prosperous nation as it is today.
ryukyu magic
QUOTE(SkyLegenD @ Aug 27 2007, 02:48 PM) [snapback]3167506[/snapback]
Sorry, but without the United States all these years helping Japan, it wouldn't be such a prosperous nation as it is today.


Considering Japan lost the War against the United States... NO $hit!!! It could've also easily have been a $hitty Nation, if it had not been for the Japanese hard working there way back into prosperity. But either way, if Japan had won the War or lost the War (as what happened), they still would've been a prosperous Nation, der der der. Stop trying to discredit Japanese.
ASIANHero
Japan already far more advanced than the american before WW2 start, unfortunately there are soo many pathetic american in here trying to find an excuse to justify their invasion into Japan. Such as saying Japan prosperious because american nuke it, how pathetic those american with their pathetic excuse like that.

PM Shinzo Abe rules!
RAWRZ
QUOTE(ASIANHero @ Aug 28 2007, 01:39 AM) [snapback]3169299[/snapback]
Japan already far more advanced than the american before WW2 start, unfortunately there are soo many pathetic american in here trying to find an excuse to justify their invasion into Japan. Such as saying Japan prosperious because american nuke it, how pathetic those american with their pathetic excuse like that.

PM Shinzo Abe rules!


Any other historical inaccuracies you'd like to spout out? Japan in a pacifict state, has accomplished more at peace then the Japan of a facist government trying to expand into an empire. Japan is prosperious becuase it's at peace. Dur, Dur Dur.
ASIANHero
For any Asian especially Japanese who love and proud of their homeland, please help the freedom of our homeland by spreading this topic in any other forum you are a member of. Don't let more of us suffering.
RAWRZ
QUOTE(ASIANHero @ Aug 29 2007, 04:53 AM) [snapback]3172026[/snapback]
For any Asian especially Japanese who love and proud of their homeland, please help the freedom of our homeland by spreading this topic in any other forum you are a member of. Don't let more of us suffering.


Your asking other people to talk like tards?
TheHero
QUOTE(ASIANHero @ Aug 28 2007, 03:39 AM) [snapback]3169299[/snapback]
Japan already far more advanced than the american before WW2 start, unfortunately there are soo many pathetic american in here trying to find an excuse to justify their invasion into Japan. Such as saying Japan prosperious because american nuke it, how pathetic those american with their pathetic excuse like that.

PM Shinzo Abe rules!


America should leave Japan; Japan can defend themselves.

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Such as saying Japan prosperious because american nuke it, how pathetic those american with their pathetic excuse like that.


True, claming Japan owes the US is self-righteous. However, many Americans opposed (today and yesterday) the nukes. Few Americans want trouble with Japan. So if we leave you alone then leave us alone. The past is done so it's time to get over the hate. So Japanese schools should teach the truth but also mention the modern America's desire for peace (at least with Japan).

BTW: The claim (made by the thread starter) that Japan is occupied is ridiculous. Yeah, Americans are really monsters in Japan (exception the 4 marines). Japan is babysitted but not occupied. America should leave and in return Japan should stop the hate.
KJlost
QUOTE(ASIANHero @ Aug 28 2007, 04:39 AM) [snapback]3169299[/snapback]
Japan already far more advanced than the american before WW2 start, unfortunately there are soo many pathetic american in here trying to find an excuse to justify their invasion into Japan. Such as saying Japan prosperious because american nuke it, how pathetic those american with their pathetic excuse like that.

PM Shinzo Abe rules!



Japanese industry was pathetic to the point where they were putting fighters (the vaunted A6M carrier-borne fighter, also known as Zero-sen), that had disintegrated in test-flight without testing and fixing the bigs correctly, into active service. I don't know your definition of 'advanced' but that doesn't seem to fit with my idea.
TheHero
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The most worse thing the american army did are racial rape that is not only in the past but even in the present


Americans aren't raping anybody now (except for the 4 marines). I seriously doubt they did in the past. It's a bunch of xenophobic paranioa.

Racial rape? Yeah, rape itself is bad. However, the racial rape thing is ridiculous. Assuming inter-racial breeding is wrong (which it isn't): it would take a lot of foreigners to change Japan or any other country. It's all just an excuse to spread hate.

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<a href="http://www8.atwiki.jp/holhol15/pages/141.html" target="_blank">- September 1949, a nine month old baby Japanese girl was sexually assaulted by an american soldier.
- September 1955, a 6 year old Japanese girl named Yumiko racially raped then murdered by an american officer in Japan.
- September 1995, a 12 years old Japanese school girl racially gang raped brutally by 3 american in Okinawa.</a>
- June 2003 a 19 year old Japanese girls racially raped by an american marine in Okinawa.
- The latest american incesity in Japan was in July 2007 when a 19 years old american trying to kill 2 Japanese girls in Yokosuka because they deny him when he force them to have sex.


No school, army or other organization is free of sickos. Look at the Roman Catholic church.

QUOTE
Or on other words the american are occupying Japan because the presence of their army in Japan are not requested by the Japanese government especially the Japanese peoples themselves, just how the american occupy Iraq today.


Koreans and Japanese have a real hard time. NOT. The Japanese economy is 2nd in the world - The Korean is the 10th largest.

There's people in the world with real problems - Filipinos, Bolivians, Iraqis, Sudanese etc...

The only real threat to Koreans and Japanese is war from NK. And this threat is bigger in SK than Japan. I also regret the atomic bombs or any other "war crime" from the past.

O.K. I can sympathize with that but that's all.

QUOTE
Or on other words the american are occupying Japan because the presence of their army in Japan are not requested by the Japanese government especially the Japanese peoples themselves, just how the american occupy Iraq today.


Japan is (and was) a democracy. The Japanese people have always (except for 1945 - 55) wanted the troops. Unlike the Iraqis, the Japanese have had many chances to vote out the troops. They could have voted them out in the 1950's.

Also, unlike SK Japan hasn't had a dictatorship since World War II.

QUOTE
In 1945 american drop 2 nuclear bomb in Japan [ Hiroshima and Nagasaki ] causing over 500.000 Japanese died and over 10 millions other Japanese suffered by radiation effect. The radiation effect victims of the american nukes have to pass their suffering into their next generation even today. Many of their babies born without proper anatomy and many others inherit fatal disease since they were born.


The atomic bombs were an act of barbarism. The USA should apologize right now. It's amazing (considering the close US - Japan alliance) that they haven't.
It was far worse than the internment of Japanese Americans (which Reagan apologized for).
Malcanthet
QUOTE(ASIANHero @ Aug 15 2007, 07:53 AM) [snapback]3136514[/snapback]
In 1945 american drop 2 nuclear bomb in Japan [ Hiroshima and Nagasaki ] causing over 500.000 Japanese died and over 10 millions other Japanese suffered by radiation effect. The radiation effect victims of the american nukes have to pass their suffering into their next generation even today. Many of their babies born without proper anatomy and many others inherit fatal disease since they were born. After the day of the american nuke into Japan, the american also have placing around 100.000 of their army in Japan even to this day [ mostly in Okinawa and Yokomaha ]. Or on other words the american are occupying Japan because the presence of their army in Japan are not requested by the Japanese government especially the Japanese peoples themselves, just how the american occupy Iraq today.

What worse than what happened in Iraq today is the american also enforcing several laws with the intention to chain Japan, one of those laws the american enforce to Japan since 1947 are not allowing Japan to have military force, making Japan a very-very weak country to any other countries, making the american can easily do whatever they want into Japan and the Japanese. There is JSDF or Japan Special Defense Force but their numbers are very-very small and their weaponry are limited, you can say JSDF are just posers in military uniform. Thanks to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, in April 2007 for the first time in Japan history the Japanese finally able to gain military strength, soon all the american army in Japan will kicked out to where they belong.
The other law the american enforce to Japan since 1947 are not allowing the Japanese to teach patriotism to the Japanese youth. It makes most of the Japanese [ not just the Japanese youth ] in the present have less nationalism, a country with less nationalism are very easily to get conquered by the other countries. Instead of helping to rebuild Japan after the american nuke it, the american also forcing Japan to pay a very big war debt.

The most worse thing the american army did are racial rape that is not only in the past but even in the present
- Over 29.859 Japanese girls racially raped by the american army during their occupation period of seven years in Japan.
<a href="http://www8.atwiki.jp/holhol15/pages/141.html" target="_blank">- September 1949, a nine month old baby Japanese girl was sexually assaulted by an american soldier.
- September 1955, a 6 year old Japanese girl named Yumiko racially raped then murdered by an american officer in Japan.
- September 1995, a 12 years old Japanese school girl racially gang raped brutally by 3 american in Okinawa.</a>
- June 2003 a 19 year old Japanese girls racially raped by an american marine in Okinawa.
- The latest american incesity in Japan was in July 2007 when a 19 years old american trying to kill 2 Japanese girls in Yokosuka because they deny him when he force them to have sex.
Those information are just a few of the many information that are based on the Japanese own media and Japanese information about the american racial rape over the Japanese girls in Japan. All the link directly come from Japan or from where the victim of those american occupation come from, so it is a reliable source. There also many racial rape attempt that fail the american did to the Japanese girls but we don't think the information are needed so we will not putting the link except if you wish to know about it you can.

There maybe those who will say about what the Japanese did in China such as saying about rape in Nanking, that is just another lie the american made to justify their invasion and incesity into Japan and the Japanese. What funny and pathetic is they were using China as an excuse to justify their invasion and incesity into Japan and the Japanese while those american are not Chinese or the Chinese never ask those american to help China during or to ask those american to occupy Japan.
I'm sure you still remember how the american lied for over almost 20 years about how Iraq having world mass destruct weapon while their true intentions are just to justify their invasion into Iraq that occurred in 2002 ago [ still occurred even today ] because even to this day there is no proof of world mass destruct weapon found in Iraq proving that the american have lied.

Another fact about what the Japanese did in Asia during WW2 :
Japan invade Indonesia in 1941 but the invasion turn as a very benefical things for the Indonesian because before Japan invade Indonesia, Indonesia have been invaded first by Netherland for almost 350 years. Japan invasion into Indonesia giving the Indonesian freedom from the Netherland 350 years invasion in 1945.

Even after the american nuke Japan, the Japanese in Indonesia were not running away from Indonesia but they choose to fight together with the Indonesian to death in order to protect the Indonesian freedom. Because after Netherland kicked out from Indonesia they still launching their 2nd invasion over Indonesia in order to take Indonesia back into their feet. Not only Netherland but a few European countrys such as England, Portugese also invade Indonesia.
The TNI [ Tentara Nasional Indonesia ] or Indonesian National Army that still exist even today were also formed by the Japanese that were born from PETA [ Pembela Tanah Air ]. Japanese are hero for Indonesian based on Indonesian own history book.

For any Asian especially Japanese who love and proud of their homeland, please help the freedom of our homeland by spreading this topic in any other forum you are a member of. Don't let more of us suffering.


How convenient you did not mention Pearl Harbor and on the subject of rape, do the term "Comfort Women" ring a bell? Oh excuse me, those Comfort Women are not invovled in interracial intercourse.
Talk about revisionist history.
Ecthelion
Free Japan indeed. Many Japanese who I have talked to say the same thing: "why are the Americans still here even though the Soviet Union is long since dead?"

Unfortunately, Japan cannot do it by herself. Only China can save Japan.
TheAkatsuki10
Look closely....Only American soldiers did the raping. Yes, our people should pull out of Japan. I believe any and all countries are capable of defending themselves. Now yes, some of our people can be complete....jack***es, but we need to leave Japan's military system of operatoin alone.
TheAkatsuki10
QUOTE(Ecthelion @ Nov 13 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]3310529[/snapback]
Free Japan indeed. Many Japanese who I have talked to say the same thing: "why are the Americans still here even though the Soviet Union is long since dead?"

Unfortunately, Japan cannot do it by herself. Only China can save Japan.


Believe it or not, we need to leave the past alone. All I here out of some of the oder generation is how Japanese joined forces with Germany in World War II and bomb Pearl Harbor, and how we got our so-called revenge for use and our allies by bombing Japan with two atomic bombs. You see, this is why war is bad. We can't get along unless we are obliterating, annihilating, and/or vaporizing each other. We need to squash this beef, talk it over, be able to shakes and joke around, and play nicely without dredging up the past or getting into petty arguments. We need to pull out of Japan before the whole world goes into WWIII.
tinman01
Believe it or not most americans would like to pull our troops out of Japan, Germany and S. Korea. We have a border of our own that needs patroling. Many feel its long past due and we should let our allies finance and manage their own defence. Japan has proven to be no threat militarily to anyone.
jrockerz
QUOTE(MethodMan @ Aug 15 2007, 09:40 AM) [snapback]3136637[/snapback]
LOL, this is that 'Proud ASIAN' guy.

He was supposedly revealed to be a white guy (or at least half white). Although judging by how much he's talked about Indonesia, he might be Indonesian.

Anyway, with North Korea acting up and China threatening Taiwan, I think America's presence in Japan promotes stability. They should stay.

he is japanese or some other asian man ...
we respect our good country relationship with them icon_smile.gif
but please, he is not indonesian. no indonesian will write Japanese empire as saviour during ww II except those Pemuda Pancasila freak ..
illesxplayb0i
QUOTE(jrockerz @ Feb 4 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]3473551[/snapback]
he is japanese or some other asian man ...
we respect our good country relationship with them icon_smile.gif
but please, he is not indonesian. no indonesian will write Japanese empire as saviour during ww II except those Pemuda Pancasila freak ..


The U.S. have camps and bases around the world for one reason. Take a look at where they are, they're all at an area of strategic importance. Japan, South Korea, and Guam would be the strategic location for Asia, while Germany would be the strategic location for Europe. Do you guys get my drift? Rapid deployment and etc.... in case of war or something.

BTW: I served as a Marine in Okinawa, Japan for a few years. The majority of the ones who get into trouble most of the time are the Caucasian folks. Either rape, robbery, or some type of criminal behavior. That sounds kind of racist but it's from my own personal experience. All the asian folks such as myself never had any problems with the locals. I've always had good interactions with them.
lite


1. most japanese do not want the us to leave
2. even if the majority of japanese do want the americans to leave, the us will not leave. japanese cannot say no to the US.
ChinaSoldier
the minute amerikka pulls out, china is willing to settle all border disputes and sign friendship treaty
ChinaSoldier
QUOTE(illesxplayb0i @ Feb 5 2008, 04:37 AM) [snapback]3474087[/snapback]
BTW: I served as a Marine in Okinawa, Japan for a few years. The majority of the ones who get into trouble most of the time are the Caucasian folks. Either rape, robbery, or some type of criminal behavior. That sounds kind of racist but it's from my own personal experience. All the asian folks such as myself never had any problems with the locals. I've always had good interactions with them.

not much surprise there
jrockerz
its up to you, japanese ,
for my country, no more harm with Japanese after 8 august 1945.
they already back to their country and we respect the rest who stayed to fight for indonesia.
(dont you know that independence speech text, was written in the house lent by japanese people there)

my personal oppinion
it would be better if you can defend your own country. rather than having foreign military base there.
not having foreign military base doesn't mean that you can't make a friend with U.S or other country.

but in a good way, I like how japan look like now,
so much different, with japanese in imperial era (who rape lots of people at that time).
no they are more shy lolz ..
different wit that americans ...
(if american marine do that raping case so often in my country, the next day they ll be a human meatball, due to street justice)
they are not interfering other country ideology and military.
and just go forward with hi tech and economic contribution. that how the peace should be.
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