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HANOI (Reuters) - Vietnam has banned skinheads and actors with uncombed or coloured hair from performing on stage to preserve "traditional aesthetic values", the culture ministry has announced.



Regulation 47, issued last week, said the ministry had banned "all hairdos that inflict horrors, colourfully painted or dyed hair, uncombed hair, shaved heads, racy and revealing dresses and make up that goes against traditional aesthetic values" from the stage.


The communist country enforces strict censorship of all public performances, but this regulation has made some theatre people unhappy.


"It is an individual's taste, and it should not be banned," Truong Nhuan, deputy director of a theatre in Ho Chi Minh City was quoted by Thanh Nien (Young People) newspaper as saying, referring to the latest regulation.


One man in Vietnam who probably will not be seen on stage any time soon is 73-year-old Tran Van Hay, who was in the news last week for his snake-like coil of hair, which he claims is 6.2 metres (20 feet) long.


Hay, who supplies traditional medicines to his village in southern Vietnam, is vying to get a spot in the Guinness Book of World Records for having the world's longest hair.


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/n..._vietnam_hair_1


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to preserve "traditional aesthetic values", the culture ministry has announced.


If this is the case, they should reduce to air foreign movies , shows from Korea, Hongkong ...ect as well.
dalawapo
wow that sucks. japan has alot of crazy outfit and hair ppl but they preserve their culture!
blank book
Perhaps it is because it is part of their culture?
dalawapo
i thougth japan is just assimilating american pop culture into their own but not like it is taking over it. confused.gif
supernovasp
this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard icon_rolleyes.gif
herosword
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Vietnam has banned skinheads and actors with uncombed or coloured hair from performing on stage to preserve "traditional aesthetic values", the culture ministry has announced.


Another example of the efficency and modern outlook of the Vietnamese Communist government. sure.gif THey took away freedom of speech, now they take away freedom to dye your hair the way you want to. embarassedlaugh.gif
dalawapo
vietnam is communist? confused.gif LOL i never really taught of ur gov cuz im too bizzy thinking of cultural aspect. icon_confused.gif
holamon
QUOTE (herosword @ Jul 21 2004, 02:51 PM)
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Vietnam has banned skinheads and actors with uncombed or coloured hair from performing on stage to preserve "traditional aesthetic values", the culture ministry has announced.


Another example of the efficency and modern outlook of the Vietnamese Communist governments. sure.gif THey took away freedom of speech, now they take away freedom to dye your hair the way you want to. embarassedlaugh.gif

Totally agreed. That's why the commies regime needs to go.
chosenone22
i actually like the banning of dying your hair. damn asians think they look better with european colored hair? please. icon_rolleyes.gif
Nam Quoc Son Ha
This only applies to actors and performers. And I agree with the government. These performers and public figures should be good examples for the youth population of Vietnam. What kind of society Vietnam is becoming? The youth are extravagant, excessive, obsessive and has lost much of the traditional Vietnamese values of our 2500 years of history.

Besides, I hate dyed hair anyway so don't give a fu-k.
ranmatatsumaru
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 21 2004, 06:25 PM)
This only applies to actors and performers. And I agree with the government. These performers and public figures should be good examples for the youth population of Vietnam. What kind of society Vietnam is becoming? The youth are extravagant, excessive, obsessive and has lost much of the traditional Vietnamese values of our 2500 years of history.

Besides, I hate dyed hair anyway so don't give a fu-k.

I agree. Dyed hair = thumbsdown.gif
Byron
Look at all those Japanese girls that want to look white and think they are white. We need people to promote Vietaemse culture not white culture.
Point_Dexter
True, western culture is the whitemans man last attempt to aimperialize, from a comercial stand point.


Being somting your not is a clear sign of weakness and subserviance.
herosword
Forcing people to wear a certain hair color is perserving culture? The issue is so petty yet it's just show the controling nature of the communist government. Your hair, your life, your thoughts, your right to speak your mind without fear of being imprisoned or beaten, your right to believe in God and freely practice your faith. If the govt is willing to go as low as controling hair color doesn't that say Hanoi is willing to go to any extent to keep the people of Vietnam brainwashed, and its corrupt, obselete and opressive regime in power? Vietnameses deserve better.

The issue in this case is really larger than hair.
Point_Dexter
Viva la Revolucion!!!

Everyone dye your pubic hair in defiance of this opression.
herosword
QUOTE (Point_Dexter @ Jul 21 2004, 09:00 PM)
Viva la Revolucion!!!

Everyone dye your pubic hair in defiance of this opression.

ha...you find it amusing as a I do but in a different sort of way. sure.gif
Byron
QUOTE (herosword @ Jul 21 2004, 08:54 PM)
Forcing people to wear a certain hair color is perserving culture?  The issue is so petty yet it's just show the controling nature of the communist government.  Your hair, your life, your thoughts, your right to speak your mind without fear of being imprisoned or beaten, your right to believe in God and freely practice your faith.  If the govt is willing to go as low as controling hair color doesn't that say Hanoi is willing to go to any extent to keep the people of Vietnam brainwashed, and its corrupt, obselete and opressive regime in power?  Vietnameses deserve better.

The issue in this case is really larger than hair.

Dude it's only for actors and actresses and any guy who does that is probably gay anyway, so as long as the gays are losing their freedom to act gay then I could care less, and I am more happy that their restricting their gay ways will limit the effect on our youth.
Nero874
You're just begging to be flamed.
supernovasp
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 21 2004, 09:36 PM)
QUOTE (herosword @ Jul 21 2004, 08:54 PM)
Forcing people to wear a certain hair color is perserving culture?  The issue is so petty yet it's just show the controling nature of the communist government.  Your hair, your life, your thoughts, your right to speak your mind without fear of being imprisoned or beaten, your right to believe in God and freely practice your faith.  If the govt is willing to go as low as controling hair color doesn't that say Hanoi is willing to go to any extent to keep the people of Vietnam brainwashed, and its corrupt, obselete and opressive regime in power?  Vietnameses deserve better.

The issue in this case is really larger than hair.

Dude it's only for actors and actresses and any guy who does that is probably gay anyway, so as long as the gays are losing their freedom to act gay then I could care less, and I'am more happy that their restricting their gay ways will limit the effect on our youth.

embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

This is one of the most homophobic message I've read for a while
Byron
Wow I never knew there were a lot of gay lovers or maybe gays around here. I thought traditionally Vietnamese had a negative attitude towards gays, at least that's how it goes in my family. If I was gay, My dad would kick me out of the house, that's for sure.
supernovasp
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 21 2004, 09:52 PM)
Wow I never knew there were a lot of gay lovers or maybe gays around here. I thought traditionally Vietnamese had a negative attitude towards gays, at least that's how it goes in my family. If I was gay, My dad would kick me out of the house, that's for sure.

Not really, Southeast Asian countries always have more positive tolerant views about homosexual. Japan has a long history of homosexual loves in their history, so does China, if you actually research about it.

Just because I have tolerance and acceptance view on homosexual, that doesn't mean I'm a gay lover or gay.
Byron
I said for Vietnamese culture. From what I heard, homos have never been accepted in Vietamese culture.
Huynh
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Jul 21 2004, 10:01 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 21 2004, 09:52 PM)
Wow I never knew there were a lot of gay lovers or maybe gays around here.  I thought traditionally Vietnamese had a negative attitude towards gays, at least that's how it goes in my family.  If I was gay, My dad would kick me out of the house, that's for sure.

Not really, Southeast Asian countries always have more positive tolerant views about homosexual. Japan has a long history of homosexual loves in their history, so does China, if you actually research about it.

Just because I have tolerance and acceptance view on homosexual, that doesn't mean I'm a gay lover or gay.

tolerance doesnt mean u have to believe in it or like it. u just have to respect it or at least deal with it in a positive way.
dalawapo
yeah homosexuality is long history
fiji
Really, as much as I love it if the government would banned all dyed-hair and male singers from dressing gay and showing that metrosexual $hit, this is not the right way to go about it. They are taking away entertainers freedom to express themselves, and if that's taken away from the artists, what left do they have? Will all actors, singers, be dressing in suit and ties with their hair come to the side?

But I don't care, I'm sick of seeing asians with their metrosexual look. In other asian countries the gayness almost die out, but in Vietnam it's still all over the place. I borrowed my friend's Vietnam music video, and I can't find 1 guy that would pass as heterosexual. They powdered their face with makeup and obvious lipstick. They draw their eyes, they look like a bunch of gigolo instead of performers.
vn1234
^gigolos - defintely - i dont know what kinda guys the chicks in VN are interested in these days
dalawapo
male whores? vientamese girls like male whores? confused.gif gigalo = that, right? lol

hmm, are male prositutue normal in vietnam?

anwyay get back on vn1234 so u can teachme about this and also how to get to "recording controlls" iono where it is! icon_sad.gif
vn1234
no not male whores - read the whole thread or atleast most of it

the celebrity guys are metrosexuals - its instyle, guys that have fricken glossy skin and wear flowery shiny clothing like hippy shirts - like the fad of girls falling for girly men like leonardo decaprio
dalawapo
ooohhh i mis read.. u are so wise. my apologys
vn1234
no im not wise - i just not metrosexual thats all

off topic - go back to the md thread and post your problem
dalawapo
oh im not metro im rural-sexual embarassedlaugh.gif

and did go to topic still lost icon_sad.gif please dont give up on me! icon_sad.gif ur my only hopes
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 21 2004, 10:10 PM)
I said for Vietnamese culture. From what I heard, homos have never been accepted in Vietamese culture.

Vietnamese society has always been ambivalent about homosexuality. Throughout our history, we neither accepted homosexuality or ostracized it.

And no, I think Vietnamese people are very tolerant and not as anti-homosexuality as the Christians.
chosenone22
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 22 2004, 04:16 AM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 21 2004, 10:10 PM)
I said for Vietnamese culture.  From what I heard, homos have never been accepted in Vietamese culture.

Vietnamese society has always been ambivalent about homosexuality. Throughout our history, we neither accepted homosexuality or ostracized it.

And no, I think Vietnamese people are very tolerant and not as anti-homosexuality as the Christians.

very true. vietnamese people are more open to homosexuality. they understand that you cant do nothing about so why bother? not like the white christians who view anything different as a sin. and evil icon_twisted.gif
Byron
How Vietnamese feel about homosexuals traditionally.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/7113843.htm

Gays and lesbians in Vietnam would hide the fact they are for thousands of years this has been happening.

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``We had been hiding for thousands of years in Vietnam and so here, in the Bay Area, we wanted to be as visible as possible and to give back dignity to gays and lesbians,'' said ``Song Hong,''


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``When you are Asian and gay, you not only get discrimination because of your race and sexual orientation, but don't get support from your family and community,'' she said.


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``Vietnamese parents always say they love their kids unconditionally, but when they find out their child is gay, they become sad and worry others in the community will find out,'' she said.


Vietnamese girls are known to lose their virginity mostly after marriage, I doubt they would allow homosexuality if even losing your virginity before marriage is looked down upon.

But personally I find nothing wrong with it homosexuality.
ngo.ngochy
In Vietnam, if a girl lose her viginity before mirrage is really bad because that means she's a bad girl and stuff you know, but if you are gay they'll think you're a bit weird, but that's something you're born with so it's okay.

I say, they can do whatever they want, it's really not fair, if a guy loses his viginity before marriage, noone would know, noone would care. And if a person is really gay, they can't help it if they're not attracted to the opposite sex.

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I am against it too! embarassedlaugh.gif Say if in one the one of the script the girl has red hair, what are they gonna do?
lilanimekid
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if you are gay they'll think you're a bit weird, but that's something you're born with so it's okay.



I don't think its something you are born with. Everybody is born straight. The purpose of life is to ensure that your genetic material is pass down thus giving you immortality in a way. The only human instinct you are born with is the desire to survive and with this comes the need to reproduce. The only natural way to reproduce is with a man and a woman. Homosexuality is a result of your sexual urges. Your affection for the same gender is a result of society. When your affection and urges combine you feel that it is the "status quo" and no longer question it. This makes you believe that you are homosexual and continue to live this lifestyle. Sorry I'm not good at explaining things embarassedlaugh.gif

Culturally we have always looked down on gays.


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Forcing people to wear a certain hair color is perserving culture? The issue is so petty yet it's just show the controling nature of the communist government. Your hair, your life, your thoughts, your right to speak your mind without fear of being imprisoned or beaten, your right to believe in God and freely practice your faith. If the govt is willing to go as low as controling hair color doesn't that say Hanoi is willing to go to any extent to keep the people of Vietnam brainwashed, and its corrupt, obselete and opressive regime in power? Vietnameses deserve better.

The issue in this case is really larger than hair.


I agree with you 100%. And to the people who think Vietnamese performers look gay you gotta check out Japanese performers. In Japan it is a fad right now to look girly.
herosword
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Jul 21 2004, 10:01 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 21 2004, 09:52 PM)
Wow I never knew there were a lot of gay lovers or maybe gays around here.  I thought traditionally Vietnamese had a negative attitude towards gays, at least that's how it goes in my family.  If I was gay, My dad would kick me out of the house, that's for sure.

Not really, Southeast Asian countries always have more positive tolerant views about homosexual. Japan has a long history of homosexual loves in their history, so does China, if you actually research about it.

Just because I have tolerance and acceptance view on homosexual, that doesn't mean I'm a gay lover or gay.

Really? Back when I lived in Vietnam a gay girl dressed like a man would be chased and harassed by little kids.
jonii-wanwan
I guess the Vietnamese government is trying to set standards on today's youth before it gets out of hands. It's like regulations on airing pornography. Controlling traditional morals by media.

If it's only for actors and TV reports alike, then why not? There is no restriction for normal people to dye their hair. Just setting a good example for the youth. Going through schooling, you need to wear a uniform right? Going to job interviews you wear suits and ties. Going on TV you should dress accordingly.
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