Ogumo
Jul 14 2004, 01:09 PM
Chinese police have arrested two people on suspicion of murdering three Japanese tourists in a hotel in the city of Xian in Shaanxi Province in 1993, China's official Xinhua News Agency said Tuesday.
The two, identified as Cao Xiude and Hai Ting, were arrested in Guilin in the Guanqxi Zhuang Autonomous Region on Friday, the report said.
http://japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=2&id=305465I wonder what the motive was and what sentence they will get.
RiverPlate4Life
Jul 14 2004, 02:13 PM
Korean tourists or businessmen get kidnapped or murdered in China often. Shlt happens. Get over it.
It's bad for your health to let everything bad that goes on in the world get to you.
ComradeJing
Jul 14 2004, 02:16 PM
Motive: Likely robbery. Japanese tourists are rich.
Sentence: Likely death penalty.
Ogumo
Jul 14 2004, 02:26 PM
QUOTE (RiverPlate4Life @ Jul 14 2004, 03:13 PM)
Korean tourists or businessmen get kidnapped or murdered in China often. Shlt happens. Get over it.
It's bad for your health to let everything bad that goes on in the world get to you.
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It's bad for your health to let everything bad that goes on in the world get to you.
Good thing that I don't let everything get to me.
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Sentence: Likely death penalty.
Splendid.
bombs_over_tokyo
Jul 14 2004, 02:30 PM
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jul 14 2004, 03:26 PM)
QUOTE (RiverPlate4Life @ Jul 14 2004, 03:13 PM)
Korean tourists or businessmen get kidnapped or murdered in China often. Shlt happens. Get over it.
It's bad for your health to let everything bad that goes on in the world get to you.
QUOTE
It's bad for your health to let everything bad that goes on in the world get to you.
Good thing that I don't let everything get to me.
QUOTE
Sentence: Likely death penalty.
Splendid.
3 down, a couple of millions more to go.
bakagrl79
Jul 14 2004, 02:40 PM
well..people get murdered all over the place.. especially tourist so try not to let it get to you. but of course murder itself is just wrong.. so i suppose it's death sentence or lifetime in jail..
barkerintokyo
Jul 14 2004, 07:18 PM
Japanese people get killed in China all the time, it's not a big deal. In fact, Japanese tourists are the biggest target of all crimes in foreign countries (foreign = not Japan in this sense). More Japanese tourists are victims of crimes than any other nationality in the world. This is because of the great number of Japanese tourists and their wealth and lack of common sense (because of years of living in a country with little crime).
More important than crimes that Japanese people are victimized in FOREIGN countries are the crimes that Japanee people are victimized DOMESTICALLY. Ten years ago, all the crimes that Chinese people and other foreigners committed in Japan were usually targeted against other Chinese people and foreigners. But now, the trend is attacking Japanese people. Chinese crime has risen to a new high this year. There are more Chinese committing violent burglaries than Japanese people. In fact, the numbers and data are showing that the Chinese immigrants (illegal AND legal) are committing the most VIOLENT crimes in Japan. Just the yesterday, a victim of a Chinese assault was on the news. He barely could open his eyes because he was beaten so much. His face was destroyed. He couldn't open his mouth because it hurt too much. Apparently, he was in his OWN home and the doorbell rang. This was at around 7PM so he thought it was probably a neighbor and opened the door without looking through the hole. Three masked Chinese men immediately wound up the 70 year old man with rope. The man's two 40 year old son's, hearing the noise, came to the front door and were wound up as well. The 70 year-old's wife, who was sleeping at the time, was bound to her bed. The three masked chinese men immediately began to beat them all for no reason. Even though they were all wound up in rope and couldn't move, the Chinese men beat them all. They proceeded to take all jewelry and money from the house.
Crimes like this are happening more and more frequently. Now, the police are advising that people do not open their doors unless the person behind the door can speak Japanese and answer a few questions.
bombs_over_tokyo
Jul 14 2004, 07:20 PM
it's about time.
Ogumo
Jul 14 2004, 10:02 PM
QUOTE (bombs_over_tokyo @ Jul 14 2004, 03:30 PM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jul 14 2004, 03:26 PM)
QUOTE (RiverPlate4Life @ Jul 14 2004, 03:13 PM)
Korean tourists or businessmen get kidnapped or murdered in China often. Shlt happens. Get over it.
It's bad for your health to let everything bad that goes on in the world get to you.
QUOTE
It's bad for your health to let everything bad that goes on in the world get to you.
Good thing that I don't let everything get to me.
QUOTE
Sentence: Likely death penalty.
Splendid.
3 down, a couple of millions more to go.
Meh. Two chinese lives for three japanese. Hardly seems fair if you ask me. In anycase "china needs to tell it's citizens to behave."
DaiNamViet
Jul 14 2004, 10:18 PM
QUOTE (bombs_over_tokyo @ Jul 14 2004, 03:30 PM)
3 down, a couple of millions more to go.
Racist , remark, ..
Ogumo
Jul 14 2004, 10:19 PM
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Jul 14 2004, 11:18 PM)
QUOTE (bombs_over_tokyo @ Jul 14 2004, 03:30 PM)
3 down, a couple of millions more to go.
Racist , remark, ..
Meh. Atleast he is honest.
DaiNamViet
Jul 14 2004, 10:22 PM
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jul 14 2004, 11:19 PM)
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Jul 14 2004, 11:18 PM)
QUOTE (bombs_over_tokyo @ Jul 14 2004, 03:30 PM)
3 down, a couple of millions more to go.
Racist , remark, ..
Meh. Atleast he is honest.
I think hes saying 3 Japanese killed, millions more to go?????
username
Jul 14 2004, 10:43 PM
honesty is not always the best policy :genius:
DaiNamViet
Jul 14 2004, 10:52 PM
QUOTE (username @ Jul 14 2004, 11:43 PM)
honesty is not always the best policy :genius:
Yea dude , some things gotta be kept buried (deep)
barkerintokyo
Jul 15 2004, 10:26 PM
Chinese crimes are getting out of hand here in Japan.
It is Japanese policy (in fact a policy of most nations in the world) to deport criminals which are deemed dangerous to our society. The other day, China refused to take back its citizens. China, being the selfish country that it is refused to deal with its problems and instead is pushing its criminals out of its country.
China needs to be severely punished for sending its criminals out of the country and refusing to take them back. They're just dumping their problems on other nations.
Ogumo
Jul 15 2004, 10:30 PM
The other day, China refused to take back its citizens.
Then let them rot in jail for the rest of their days. Safely away from society.
barkerintokyo
Jul 15 2004, 10:51 PM
It costs money to run prisons, Ogumo. And that money comes from Japanese taxpayers. Do you know how much money it costs to keep one prisoner in prison. You have to pay guards, cleaning, laundry, food, air conditioning, television bills, doctor bills, dentist bills, exercise machines, maintenance of library, ..... the list is endless. Keeping one person in prison for a single day costs so much money. Keeping them for a long time, keeping them for life, this costs a fortune. Every year less people are working and more are retiring. How can these people afford to pay for prisoners? Well, their sole income is Social Security. Where does Social Security come from: the younger people who pay their taxes to the government. Every year, there are less younger people who pay for social security and every year there are more people who need to receive it. The government is going bankrupt. Japan cannot afford to continue to pay Chinese criminals to stay in Japan, just so they can go back out on the streets to commit another crime. The Chinese immigrants aren't afraid of going to prison in Japan because Japanese prison life is of better quality than living in China.
We need to just stop, and I mean completely stop, Chinese immigration. Nothing good ever comes from that country anymore.
Ogumo
Jul 15 2004, 11:03 PM
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The Chinese immigrants aren't afraid of going to prison in Japan because Japanese prison life is of better quality than living in China.
Japanese people are to blame for this. Japan's prisons punishment system should be as harsh as china's. This will deter crime from both japanese and non japanese criminals.
barkerintokyo
Jul 15 2004, 11:11 PM
You see, Japan's prisons would never mimic China's. Japan believes in protecting the rights of people even prisoner's human rights. Prisons in Japan are not deterrents. They are for rehabilitation. They are correction facilities. Japanese prisons are trying to correct the minds of criminals, reeducate them. We cannot follow China's path and become a monstrous country squashing human rights.
Ogumo
Jul 16 2004, 12:10 AM
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Jul 16 2004, 12:11 AM)
You see, Japan's prisons would never mimic China's. Japan believes in protecting the rights of people even prisoner's human rights. Prisons in Japan are not deterrents. They are for rehabilitation. They are correction facilities. Japanese prisons are trying to correct the minds of criminals, reeducate them. We cannot follow China's path and become a monstrous country squashing human rights.
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Japan believes in protecting the rights of people even prisoner's human rights.
Japan's attempts at upholding human rights is it's own folly.
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They are for rehabilitation
Then perhaps they should become places of misery to be used as a example to the rest of the population. Hardened criminals are most likely never be rehabilitated.
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Japanese prisons are trying to correct the minds of criminals, reeducate them.
These things cost money. Japan should simply use prisons as a means for strict punishment not this fantasy of rehabilitation.
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We cannot follow China's path and become a monstrous country squashing human rights.
Why not? Violating human rights is all the rage now. Just like those strawberry bun back in the early 90s. I personally think people be inelegable for human rights the moment they commit a serious crime.
huaren
Jul 16 2004, 01:04 AM
When I see the nickname Barker, I stop reading. I get tired to read junk post.
Its a good thing, and I suggest China government to release the murderer and let them free.
LilyDoll
Jul 16 2004, 08:05 AM
That should show to be very careful in any country. Not everyone in other places is nice and happy to see you.
Should tourist carry loaded weapons with them when they travel, people would probably think twice about messing with the "dumb tourists".
Nothing a little Beretta couldn't handle.
Emperor
Jul 16 2004, 09:03 AM
lol, Japanese tourists get robbed in Holland (Oranda) all the time.
Probably because they're small and easy targets.
blatant
Jul 16 2004, 09:25 AM
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jul 14 2004, 11:02 PM)
QUOTE (bombs_over_tokyo @ Jul 14 2004, 03:30 PM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jul 14 2004, 03:26 PM)
QUOTE (RiverPlate4Life @ Jul 14 2004, 03:13 PM)
Korean tourists or businessmen get kidnapped or murdered in China often. Shlt happens. Get over it.
It's bad for your health to let everything bad that goes on in the world get to you.
QUOTE
It's bad for your health to let everything bad that goes on in the world get to you.
Good thing that I don't let everything get to me.
QUOTE
Sentence: Likely death penalty.
Splendid.
3 down, a couple of millions more to go.
Meh. Two chinese lives for three japanese. Hardly seems fair if you ask me. In anycase "china needs to tell it's citizens to behave."
I so agree with that, my visits in China made me sick, they treated me horribly until they figured out I had money. But with that many people, it's difficult and everyone tries to fend for themselves, it's all about self-preservation, regardless of means.
Ogumo
Jul 16 2004, 08:08 PM
QUOTE (Emperor @ Jul 16 2004, 10:03 AM)
lol, Japanese tourists get robbed in Holland (Oranda) all the time.
Probably because they're small and easy targets.
Haha the emphasis is on
small.
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I so agree with that, my visits in China made me sick, they treated me horribly until they figured out I had money. But with that many people, it's difficult and everyone tries to fend for themselves, it's all about self-preservation, regardless of means.
..you are japanese?
MiSta MujiGe
Jul 16 2004, 08:10 PM
hmm. my friend went to china yesterday for missionary purpose, i wonder what he would say after he comes back.
barkerintokyo
Jul 17 2004, 04:10 AM
Why is it the tourists' fault for being attacked? I think that China needs to discipline its citizens. It needs to teach morals in school if the households aren't willing to do it themselves. It is the responsibility of parents to teach their children that there are certain rules that humans have to follow regardless of whether there is a law or a punishment for it or not. Children should know that they are not suppose to harm another person or take another person's things not because they fear the punishment but because they know it is wrong. Chinese people, I'm afraid, don't get this kind of basic education. They see on the streets all these terrible things. They look at their parents and see what horrible things they do. They look at their government and see a terrible example. Children then grow up to be just like the corrupt people their former generation was.
It is not Japanese people's faults for being attacked in foreign countries. It is not our responsibilities to arm ourselves with weapons when we go to foreign countries as LillyDoll says. Japanese people, having been born and raised in a docile country like Japan, are indeed imbeciles for not knowing that foreign countries are dangerous places but it is not their fault that they are TERRIBLE and EVIL people in the world. Japanese people are SPECIFICALLY TARGETED by foreign criminals because Japanese people do not fight back, they cannot speak the language, and they are generally rich. Chinese people in Japan used to attack their own people. They used to attack other Chinese people and sometimes Japanese people died in the crossfire. But now, Chinese people are targeting Japanese people in our own homes. They commit the most violent crimes in Japan. The statistics are in and they show that Chinese people are dangerous people and they need to be moved out of the country and never let in. Japanese people should avoid China all at costs.
Ogumo
Jul 17 2004, 11:52 AM
Meatball:
You only see what you want to see. Addressing the point in your post. Japanese people only have themselves to blame for their weakness. Of course that can be correct along with many of the other inferior elements of the japanese people. We can start with cancer at it's source. Tokyo.
Eclectic Asian
Jul 22 2004, 10:51 PM
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jul 17 2004, 10:52 AM)
Meatball:
You only see what you want to see. Addressing the point in your post. Japanese people only have themselves to blame for their weakness. Of course that can be correct along with many of the other inferior elements of the japanese people. We can start with cancer at it's source. Tokyo.
ogumo, is tokyo really that much different from the rest of japan??? so you are suggesting that if i were to visit japan as a tourist (or maybe for studying abroad

) that i should not visit tokyo and visit the rest of japan which is "authentic" and "real"?
one more thing, i was just wondering if the U.S. is the only country in which you are innocent until proven guilty.....(maybe the same goes for other democratic/capitalistic countries as well.....
.....as opposed to other countries in which you are guilty until proven innocent??
how is the justice served in japan?
lunksunkunk
Jul 23 2004, 02:12 AM
honestly, i think Japanese ppl are really nice ppl. Since their country is a fairly safe place, they dont expect nor sense hostility since they havent experienced it before. They havent learned the things that most Americans have to learned in order to protect themselves. Yeah, prisons should be harsh, punishment should be harsh, therefore criminals and menaces to societies will learn and deter future crimes.
Bombs over Tokyo, your remark was totally uncalled for man. Thats is a really hateful remark. That kinda stuff keep to yourself.
ComradeJing
Jul 23 2004, 03:17 AM
Who do you keep referring to as meatball Ogumo? I'm confused.
Ogumo
Jul 23 2004, 05:00 AM
QUOTE (Eclectic Asian @ Jul 22 2004, 11:51 PM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jul 17 2004, 10:52 AM)
Meatball:
You only see what you want to see. Addressing the point in your post. Japanese people only have themselves to blame for their weakness. Of course that can be correct along with many of the other inferior elements of the japanese people. We can start with cancer at it's source. Tokyo.
ogumo, is tokyo really that much different from the rest of japan??? so you are suggesting that if i were to visit japan as a tourist (or maybe for studying abroad

) that i should not visit tokyo and visit the rest of japan which is "authentic" and "real"?
one more thing, i was just wondering if the U.S. is the only country in which you are innocent until proven guilty.....(maybe the same goes for other democratic/capitalistic countries as well.....
.....as opposed to other countries in which you are guilty until proven innocent??
how is the justice served in japan?
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ogumo, is tokyo really that much different from the rest of japan??? so you are suggesting that if i were to visit japan as a tourist (or maybe for studying abroad

) that i should not visit tokyo and visit the rest of japan which is "authentic" and "real"?
Different in the sense that it is much more perverse and filthy. There is also a large amount of white loving japanese there.
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one more thing, i was just wondering if the U.S. is the only country in which you are innocent until proven guilty.....(maybe the same goes for other democratic/capitalistic countries as well.....
It is the same in japan.
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how is the justice served in japan?
For the mos part I would say it is the same to america. That is of course unless you are a american soldier.
ComradeJing:
Barkertokyo.
Eclectic Asian
Jul 23 2004, 09:04 PM
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Different in the sense that it is much more perverse and filthy. There is also a large amount of white loving japanese there.
why are there more white loving japanese there? is it because it is obviously a tourist attraction?? also, i know (hopefully) for sure that you did not mean perverse and filthy in a literal way (unsanitary) so perhaps you can give me more details (elaborate) and tell me what you are referring to???
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For the mos part I would say it is the same to america. That is of course unless you are a american soldier.
what happens to the american soldier? is he court martialed or something more worse than that???
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ComradeJing:
Barkertokyo.
why do you call him that though ogumo??? is this like a friendly nickname for him???
Ogumo
Jul 23 2004, 09:13 PM
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why are there more white loving japanese there? is it because it is obviously a tourist attraction?? also, i know (hopefully) for sure that you did not mean perverse and filthy in a literal way (unsanitary) so perhaps you can give me more details (elaborate) and tell me what you are referring to???
Hmm perhaps barker would answer your question better. Notice how he demonizes the chinese criminals yes is quick to stand up for the americans. The ones that commit and have commited the most crimes against the japanese race. I did indeed mean literally that tokyo is unsanitary and perverse. The place is just nasty. Look up Kabukicho.
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what happens to the american soldier? is he court martialed or something more worse than that???
I have mentioned many times. The americans unfair systems set up that favor themselves. Read some of my articles dealing with SOFA. There should be a few on af alone.
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why do you call him that though ogumo??? is this like a friendly nickname for him???
Yes...friendly.
MoS
Jul 30 2004, 02:31 PM
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Jul 14 2004, 08:18 PM)
Japanese people get killed in China all the time, it's not a big deal. In fact, Japanese tourists are the biggest target of all crimes in foreign countries (foreign = not Japan in this sense). More Japanese tourists are victims of crimes than any other nationality in the world. This is because of the great number of Japanese tourists and their wealth and lack of common sense (because of years of living in a country with little crime).
More important than crimes that Japanese people are victimized in FOREIGN countries are the crimes that Japanee people are victimized DOMESTICALLY. Ten years ago, all the crimes that Chinese people and other foreigners committed in Japan were usually targeted against other Chinese people and foreigners. But now, the trend is attacking Japanese people. Chinese crime has risen to a new high this year. There are more Chinese committing violent burglaries than Japanese people. In fact, the numbers and data are showing that the Chinese immigrants (illegal AND legal) are committing the most VIOLENT crimes in Japan. Just the yesterday, a victim of a Chinese assault was on the news. He barely could open his eyes because he was beaten so much. His face was destroyed. He couldn't open his mouth because it hurt too much. Apparently, he was in his OWN home and the doorbell rang. This was at around 7PM so he thought it was probably a neighbor and opened the door without looking through the hole. Three masked Chinese men immediately wound up the 70 year old man with rope. The man's two 40 year old son's, hearing the noise, came to the front door and were wound up as well. The 70 year-old's wife, who was sleeping at the time, was bound to her bed. The three masked chinese men immediately began to beat them all for no reason. Even though they were all wound up in rope and couldn't move, the Chinese men beat them all. They proceeded to take all jewelry and money from the house.
Crimes like this are happening more and more frequently. Now, the police are advising that people do not open their doors unless the person behind the door can speak Japanese and answer a few questions.
How did they know those three masked men were Chinese? Do they automatically assume all crimes committed in Japan are perpetrated by the Chinese. If anything is racism, that is.
Rappapa
Jul 30 2004, 02:36 PM
Tourists are an easy target, that's all.
GenomVirues
Jul 30 2004, 11:35 PM
i see internet chinese bandit attack japanese all the time lol
J5im8yo
Aug 8 2004, 10:56 PM
Japan needs more Chinese people. China is getting crowded and it's good that they are moving out to Japan. They want to avoid us at all cost but that wasn't their attitude throughout history until they lost WWII.
In history you want invade China for land and resource. We're just doing the same. Sharing is good.
jz87
Aug 18 2004, 01:28 AM
Eclectic Asian, Tokyo is like a little world onto itself. Tokyo and Kyoto are a world apart, the difference is so obvious and large that I can't put it into concise words. Just go see for yourself. (BTW, Kabukicho does not equal Tokyo, just like the Red light district does not represent all of Amsterdam)
Ogumo, why do you have that banner in your signature? I feel so bad everytime I see or hear that. Whatever other Chinese people say about the Japanese government and apologies, everytime I see the words ???? I feel like apologizing. I know it's not my fault that so many Chinese people are racist, but nevertheless it just feels so wrong. It's unfortunate that people are sometimes lumped together with their race, but I've always tried to distance myself from the Japan haters. Few as it may seem from the sample on this forum, there are actually Chinese people who like Japan (me being one of them). I went to Japan for spring break this year and loved it. The people are so incredibly polite and the service in restaurants and shops are impeccable. Plus the Cherry Blossom were truly beautiful and it just felt like such a nice country.
Ogumo
Aug 18 2004, 09:15 AM
QUOTE (jz87 @ Aug 18 2004, 02:28 AM)
Eclectic Asian, Tokyo is like a little world onto itself. Tokyo and Kyoto are a world apart, the difference is so obvious and large that I can't put it into concise words. Just go see for yourself. (BTW, Kabukicho does not equal Tokyo, just like the Red light district does not represent all of Amsterdam)
I agree.
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Ogumo, why do you have that banner in your signature?
It was a flag that belonged to one of the smaller japanese tribes. I like the way it looks.
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I feel so bad everytime I see or hear that. Whatever other Chinese people say about the Japanese government and apologies, everytime I see the words ???? I feel like apologizing.
Why? I do not understand. Explain further.
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I know it's not my fault that so many Chinese people are racist, but nevertheless it just feels so wrong.
It is not my fault either. Nor the fault of those japanese that simply paid their money to enjoy a ridiculous soccer game and were not even allowed that by the chinese.
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It's unfortunate that people are sometimes lumped together with their race, but I've always tried to distance myself from the Japan haters.
So....are you some type of japan obsessed chinese? I am not very fond of those either.
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Few as it may seem from the sample on this forum, there are actually Chinese people who like Japan (me being one of them).
Chinese american sure I can believe. In chinese native born I strongly feel is different. Most likely under 40% do not hate japanese. Simply a rough estimate.
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I went to Japan for spring break this year and loved it. The people are so incredibly polite and the service in restaurants and shops are impeccable. Plus the Cherry Blossom were truly beautiful and it just felt like such a nice country.
So are you saying that the japanese racists did not go out of their way to be cruel to you? Did they attack and surround you during the soccer game? Then play it down like it was nothing? Hmm. You were lucky this time.
jz87
Aug 18 2004, 10:00 AM
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Why? I do not understand. Explain further.
I meant the words under the banner. I don't know why the Chinese I typed didn't come out right, but I originally typed ri ben gui zi (Japanese devils). It just feels wrong that people would still use such a term.
I disagree with you that most Chinese hate Japanese though. I've never hated Japan even while I was in China (before I came here). I studied some Japanese with my grandma when I was little.(my great grandfather went to Todai during the Meiji era, he liked Japan too) My favorite TV shows were Japanese as a kid, there was Doraemon, and this one about a little monk called Yi Xiou (not sure what the Japanese title is).
I never went to watch their stupid propaganda films like Unit 731, I can't believe they still show that crap like it's Schindler's List or something.
Ogumo
Aug 18 2004, 10:05 AM
QUOTE (jz87 @ Aug 18 2004, 11:00 AM)
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Why? I do not understand. Explain further.
I meant the words under the banner. I don't know why the Chinese I typed didn't come out right, but I originally typed ri ben gui zi (Japanese devils). It just feels wrong that people would still use such a term.
I disagree with you that most Chinese hate Japanese though. I've never hated Japan even while I was in China (before I came here). I studied some Japanese with my grandma when I was little.(my great grandfather went to Todai during the Meiji era, he liked Japan too) My favorite TV shows were Japanese as a kid, there was Doraemon, and this one about a little monk called Yi Xiou (not sure what the Japanese title is).
I never went to watch their stupid propaganda films like Unit 731, I can't believe they still show that crap like it's Schindler's List or something.
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I meant the words under the banner. I don't know why the Chinese I typed didn't come out right, but I originally typed ri ben gui zi (Japanese devils). It just feels wrong that people would still use such a term.
It is up there as a joke.
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I disagree with you that most Chinese hate Japanese though. I've never hated Japan even while I was in China (before I came here). I studied some Japanese with my grandma when I was little.(my great grandfather went to Todai during the Meiji era, he liked Japan too) My favorite TV shows were Japanese as a kid, there was Doraemon, and this one about a little monk called Yi Xiou (not sure what the Japanese title is).
Most chinese actually agree with my estimation. Ive never been to china I just go by what I see and read. So there is always room for misconception.
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I never went to watch their stupid propaganda films like Unit 731, I can't believe they still show that crap like it's Schindler's List or something.
The event actually happened. They have the right to milk it for what it is worth.
Musashino
Aug 19 2004, 07:13 AM
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Aug 18 2004, 11:05 AM)
QUOTE (jz87)
I never went to watch their stupid propaganda films like Unit 731, I can't believe they still show that crap like it's Schindler's List or something.
The event actually happened.
He meant that the film was made to incite anti-Japanese sentiments. He did not mean that the event didn't happen.
QUOTE (Ogumo)
They have the right to milk it for what it is worth.
Obviously.
Colordevil
Aug 19 2004, 07:36 AM
I do not get it, why does everytime when one or more foreigners that has been kill in another country such a controversy...........???
I mean, people do die sometimes, and get kill everyday, all around.
福州市长
Aug 19 2004, 07:38 AM
chinese get murdered every where too..
Colordevil
Aug 19 2004, 07:53 AM
QUOTE (福州市长 @ Aug 19 2004, 09:38 AM)
chinese get murdered every where too..
um...........i sense some hatred,
well, what i said was not only to the japanese, but for everyone.
Ogumo
Aug 21 2004, 12:59 PM
QUOTE (福州市长 @ Aug 19 2004, 08:38 AM)
chinese get murdered every where too..
Don't post this garbage in one my threads. Chinese people being killed is none of my concern. If you want to post this information make a thread about it and put it there.
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