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Vietnamese court sentences dissidents

By BEN STOCKING, Associated Press Writer
25 minutes ago


Nguyen Van Dai and Le Thi Cong Nhan in prisoner clothes.




Foreign journalists are only allowed to watch what's going in the court through the TV.


HANOI, Vietnam - A court sentenced two human rights lawyers Friday, bringing to five the number of activists convicted this week in Vietnam's latest crackdown on dissent.

Nguyen Van Dai was sentenced to five years and Le Thi Cong Nhan to four years for advocating a multiparty state in Vietnam, where the ruling communist party does not tolerate challenges to its rule.

Dai also must serve four years of probation after his release from jail; Nhan must serve three years of probation.

"The trial today was not right," Nhan said shortly before the close of the four-hour proceeding. "I reject this trial."

Prosecutors said Dai, 38, and Nhan, 28, had violated article 88 of Vietnam's criminal code, which broadly prohibits spreading propaganda against the government.

Prosecutors said Dai and Nhan had collaborated with overseas pro-democracy advocates and used the Internet to advance their views.

They also accused the defendants of working with Thadeus Nguyen Van Ly, a dissident Catholic priest who was sentenced to eight years in prison in March. Ly was convicted of organizing an independent political group called the Vietnam Progression Party and Bloc 8406, a pro-democracy group that circulated petitions calling for a multiparty state.

"Did your actions constitute a crime?" a prosecutor asked Nhan.

"Absolutely not," she replied.

Dai also denied he had broken any laws, saying he had merely exercised his right to free expression and association.

Reporters and Western diplomats were not allowed in the courtroom but viewed the trial on closed-circuit television in a separate room. Because of a bad sound connection, much of the proceedings were inaudible.

When the trial was over, Western diplomats decried the outcome.

"We are aware of nothing to indicate that these individuals were engaged in activities that conflict with rights regarding the peaceful expression of political thought widely recognized under international law," said Ralph Falzone of the U.S. embassy in Hanoi.

Alexis Andres, a European Union diplomat, said the evidence against Dai and Nhan was "very weak" and the sentences excessive.

"Nobody should be condemned for peacefully expressing their views," Andres said.

Before their March 6 arrests, Dai and Nhan provided human rights training to Vietnamese students. Dai also represented ethnic minorities who were members of Protestant faiths.

The Ho Chi Minh City People's Court convicted three other dissidents on similar charges Thursday. Le Nguyen Sang was sentenced to five years in prison, Nguyen Bac Truyen to four years, and Huynh Nguyen Dao to three years.

On Wednesday, Vietnam released Phan Van Ban, who was jailed for 22 years after he joined an organization calling for political change. He immediately flew to the United States to be reunited with his son, a U.S. citizen.

Journalist and author Tran Khai Thanh Thuy, another pro-democracy advocate, was arrested in April and remains in jail. Another dissident, Tran Quoc Hien, is scheduled to go on trial in Ho Chi Minh City next week.
asean.asia
They look cute in black and white. embarassedlaugh.gif

Letting them play around for a little bit and they think they could sit on the government head.
Englanda
Don't wish to be offensive but of what religious persuasion are these dissidents?
Q(^.^Q) Loc85
^^^ Does it matter? Would it be better if they were Buddhist?
asean.asia
It's the US and Western Media mouth. They could say anything they want.

The relation between Vietnam and the US is trade relation. We do not need the US to butt into our internal affair, nor should they butt into any country internal affair.

To get Christians support and make it sounds like religious related, they prefix the convicts name with "Christian" in western media. laugh.gif

If they like to play saints, they should help AO victims and cleanup the AO area.
GenomVirues
A bunch of catholics and they have affiliation with San Jose VNCH. LOL!! LOL!!! LMAO!! laugh.gif

This sounds like the story called The Boy Who Cried Wolf, but replace the word "Boy" with g@@ks

Q(^.^Q) Loc85
Forget about religion, Communism is still done for. Silly commies, you are dying. LMAO.
asean.asia
I have a feeling that Loc85 and SIG P229 is one. laugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE(Q(^.^Q) Loc85 @ May 12 2007, 03:02 PM) [snapback]2939874[/snapback]
Forget about religion, Communism is still done for. Silly commies, you are dying. LMAO.

Q(^.^Q) Loc85
What's new? You're always having those retarded dumbass 'feelings'. Hahahahhahaha. laugh.gif Talktohand.gif
GenomVirues
QUOTE(Q(^.^Q) Loc85 @ May 12 2007, 03:02 PM) [snapback]2939874[/snapback]
Forget about religion, Communism is still done for. Silly commies, you are dying. LMAO.


Me a commie and dying?? who, what, where, when, how, and why?
Q(^.^Q) Loc85
I'm just saying. Commies, dying, in general. laugh.gif
GenomVirues
Yea!!! like totally dude!!! The world nowadays they be like having mixed economy and stuff. The only two countries I know are Cuba and N. Korea that truly practice Command and Control. Marxism is not popular nowadays, like OMG!!! communism are dying!!! Like totally!

Like O my GOD!!!
Q(^.^Q) Loc85
Talktohand.gif icon_lame.gif attempt at sarcasm. Ha...ha...ha.
GenomVirues
^^^ LOL!!!!!!!!
papabearvn
I think these people can do lots better if they really wanted to help but I doubt their motives. My family knows Professor Hoàng Phương for sometimes and many people in Hanoi community know too well that Lê thị Công Nhân's mother is a gold digger.
nfacblade
QUOTE(asean.asia @ May 12 2007, 02:53 PM) [snapback]2939855[/snapback]
It's the US and Western Media mouth. They could say anything they want.

The relation between Vietnam and the US is trade relation. We do not need the US to butt into our internal affair, nor should they butt into any country internal affair.

To get Christians support and make it sounds like religious related, they prefix the convicts name with "Christian" in western media. laugh.gif

If they like to play saints, they should help AO victims and cleanup the AO area.

Seems like the western media helps fuel the fire by linking them as Christians which I don't believe has any merit. I don't know their motives, but these kinds of protests don't seem to help to fragile US-Vietnam relation. Already, the word "sanction" is being bantered around on the Capitol Hill by some US congressmen. A trade sanction would not be unimaginable. That' why Vietnam has to reach out more to Japan and Europe as trade partners.
Happy Asian
Another trial, another propaganda opportunity for VNCH doggy motherfu-kers.
jose cuervo
Ha ha ha. Anytime some schmoe wants to break the law and overthrow the Vietnamese government the western media likes to call it "religious persecution" if they happened to be Catholic/Christian.


jimm¥
i think loc85 and bloc84 have alot in common embarassedlaugh.gif
Cookielover
The commies knows that their days are numbered, and that's the reason why they're intensifying the crackdown on dissidents.

"the flame of the fire is strongest the moment before it is extinguished".

Like the previous dictatorial regimes of South Korea, Taiwan and numerous others, their effort will fail because the collective will of the people will prevail.

For your part, the best you can do at the moment is to spread awareness of human rights through talking to your family, friends and neighbours in Vietnam and tell them that they, as human beings, deserves better than a corrupted communist regime.
jimm¥
QUOTE(Cookielover @ May 13 2007, 07:10 PM) [snapback]2941597[/snapback]
For your part, the best you can do at the moment is to spread awareness of human rights through talking to your family, friends and neighbours in Vietnam and tell them that they, as human beings, deserves better than a corrupted communist regime.


you go and do that sherlock,see if anyone cares Talktohand.gif

arun
QUOTE(Cookielover @ May 13 2007, 02:10 AM) [snapback]2941597[/snapback]
The commies knows that their days are numbered, and that's the reason why they're intensifying the crackdown on dissidents.

"the flame of the fire is strongest the moment before it is extinguished".

Like the previous dictatorial regimes of South Korea, Taiwan and numerous others, their effort will fail because the collective will of the people will prevail.

For your part, the best you can do at the moment is to spread awareness of human rights through talking to your family, friends and neighbours in Vietnam and tell them that they, as human beings, deserves better than a corrupted communist regime.

You don't even practice what you preach. How do you suppose to convince people that you're righteous?
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