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Metro Project

A city-wide subway system (195 km by the year of 2020) is planned for Ho Chi Minh City, in southern Vietnam (formerly known as Saigon). The population in the metropolitan area is about 3.5 million.

According to the master plan announced in February 2001, the inner metro system will comprise the following routes:

- Northwest-Southeast (46.86km long with 44 stops)
- Inner Belt (43.14km, 45 stops)
- Tan Son Nhat (9.3km, nine stops)
- Hoa Hung-Hanoi Highway-Thu Thiem (21km, 18 stops)
- Ben Thanh-District 2-District 9-Thu Duc (27.5 km, 18 stops)
- Bien Hoa-Binh Chanh-Hoa Hung (46 km, 42 stops)

The master plan for the metro project also includes the development of routes running outside HCM City. These include the 43km Long Binh-Hoc Mon route, the Hoc Mon-Binh Chanh-Tien Giang route, the Thu Duc-Long Binh-Long Thanh-Vung Tau route and the Thu Thiem-Long Binh Vung Tau route.

Two priority lines:

1) Quang Trung - Tan Son Nhat - Ben Thanh Line: 10 km, half surface, half underground

2) Ben Thanh - Binh Tay Market Line: 7 km , 8 stations, all underground

Platform length: 125 m
Average station distance: 700 - 1,300 m
Max speed: 80 km/h
Headway: 4 min. (min. 2 min.)
Gauge: 1,435 mm
Car width: 3 m

Construction start - 2005


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Monday - Jul. 05, 2004

A pre-feasibility study for an investment project to build two metros in HCM City at a cost of 795 million USD has finished.

The two subway lines with a total length of 20.594 km will be built along two corridors of high traffic density: the North-South railway line (M1) and the East-West railway line (M2). Both M1 and M2 will start at a common station on Ham Nghi boulevard.

M1 will have 11 stations, including nine underground stations, an elevated one, and one on the ground. M2 will have five underground stations and six elevated ones.

The Metro system will be capable of carrying 73.73 million passengers a year in the first stage, and 203.67 million passengers a year later.

Of the total investment of 795 million USD, 20.93 million USD or 26 percent will be for ground clearance. The city's budget will provide 30 percent (238.5 million USD) for the project and the remaining investment will be loaned by the German government, a Chinese railway construction group, the Austrian government and German banks.

Work on construction of the railway lines is expected to start at the end of this year and to be completed in 2008. (VNA)


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  Metro Project Prepared 


A sense of urgency is growing as time goes by and HCM looks for a start to its people-moving project

HCM City People's Committee has established a management board for two priority metro projects affiliated with HCM City Service of Communications and Public Works. The move aims to accelerate the progress of the projects, scheduled for construction from 2004 to 2008.

Do Tien Luc, vice-director of the service, says the two priority metro routes are Ben Thanh Market-Cach Mang Thang Tam Street-Tham Luong, and Ben Thanh Market-Nguyen Thi Minh Khai-Tran Phu-Hung Vuong-Hong Bang-Kinh Duong Vuong-Western Bus Terminal. The HCM City government submitted the projects to the Prime Minister late last year.

"The two metro routes will run underground, overland and in the sky, with a total length of 20.6 kilometers." Luc says. The estimated investment cost of US$800 million will cover rails, locomotives, carriages, a central station in Ben Thanh Market, a depot in Binh Chanh District, a large station in District 12, underground and elevated stations, related equipment and construction. The two routes will be able to transport 22,000-27,600 passengers each hour in each direction during peak hours. Both have been surveyed by Siemens and their pre-feasibility studies have been completed.

The service has received missions from France, Germany, Japan, China and other countries that came to study metro projects in HCM City, but most were purely exploratory. Only Siemens has signed with the city government a memorandum of understanding on financing the feasibility studies for the two metro routes. The studies have been submitted to the city government for forwarding to the central Government. If the Government approves the studies that Siemens conducted, the company will be given the privilege of being the contractor and equipment supplier. "Siemens has also pledged to seek funds for the projects," Luc says.

According to Siemens, it will take at least three years to complete construction of the two routes. The time will be four years should anything unexpected occur. In a meeting with the chairman of HCM City People's Committee last week, Siemens representatives said that if the central Government approved the two priority metro routes, the company would immediately undertake the feasibility studies and technical designs. This work will be completed in a year. So, construction can start only in early 2005 at the earliest," Luc says.

On its part, the city government is proceeding with preparation for site clearance and compensation, at least at two sites for the depot in Binh Chanh and the large station in District 12. Work on these two items may start this year if approved by the Government, Luc says.

The key issue for the metro projects is not technology, but capital, he says. The city government can cover only 30% of the US$800 million needed to pay for site clearance and compensation. The rest must be sourced from loans. Early next month, a mission of senior Vietnamese officials will visit Germany and discuss funding for the two priority metro routes. 

Source: The Saigon Times Weekly - 28 Feb 2004
Date: 03/28/2004 
supernovasp
QUOTE (Johannjs @ Jul 9 2004, 04:52 PM)
A city-wide subway system (195 km by the year of 2020) is planned for Ho Chi Minh City, in southern Vietnam (formerly known as Saigon). The population in the metropolitan area is about 3.5 million.

I thought Saigon's population is about 7 million right now...
ranmatatsumaru
I can't wait for this thing to get built!
fiji
Can't wait for this project. People could not ditch their motorbikes and hop on the metro. I hope Vietnamese will be more aware of pollution and take public transportation more. Vietnam is getting richer and I hate it if they turned out to be like China, getting cars and all.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Jul 9 2004, 04:53 PM)
QUOTE (Johannjs @ Jul 9 2004, 04:52 PM)
A city-wide subway system (195 km by the year of 2020) is planned for Ho Chi Minh City, in southern Vietnam (formerly known as Saigon). The population in the metropolitan area is about 3.5 million.

I thought Saigon's population is about 7 million right now...

Officially Saigon boasts a population of 4 million but as a matter of fact, the real population is as high as 7 million. This is due to the fact that the government does not allow people from outside the city to register and live in the city anymore.
vn1234
ooohhhh - finally transit can be used instead of hondas - free up the streets and reduce the pollution - yah - also since it will be a new system, itll be really cool
Nam Quoc Son Ha
So Saigon will be getting a new airport terminal and a transit system. Does anybody know how much the transit system cost?
Johannjs
QUOTE (fiji @ Jul 9 2004, 05:56 PM)
Can't wait for this project.  People could not ditch their motorbikes and hop on the metro.  I hope Vietnamese will be more aware of pollution and take public transportation more.  Vietnam is getting richer and I hate it if they turned out to be like China, getting cars and all. 
:genius: Don't forget USA is the world's biggest polluter

Since January 2004 there are brand new buses with air-conditioning circulating throughout HCM City in all directions, all routes starting at Bên Thành Central Market (+ probably more starting at Bến Xe Bình Tây in Chợ Lớn).

The bus single-fare ticket is 2.000 VND no matter the distance, and it's free for all children under 12 years old.

When I last was there in April-May 2004, I found there were much less air-pollution, and the Sài Gòn and Thị Nghè Rivers' waters also were cleaned up, looked and smelt cleaner. Bridges were repainted and redecorated. The sidewalks on many streets were redesigned uniformly and cleared of all the usual obstacles (motorcycles!...).

Well, things look to go better very fast, every time.

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HCM City makes buses big priority in 2004
09:27 09/01/2004 (GMT+7)

HCM City authorities will invest VND250bil (US$15mil) for bus transport this year to reduce traffic congestion, accidents and pollution, transport officials said.

HCM City authorities are planning to spend $15mil to bolster its fleet of new public buses this year.
Do Tien Luc, Deputy Director of the city's Department of Transport, said most of the investment would be used to build and assemble 1,100 new passenger buses, bringing the city's bus fleet to 3,000. Transport officials said private companies and co-operatives this year would also build 500 new buses to meet the growing demand for bus travel.

To develop the city's bus fleet to 4,300 by 2005, the city has authorised the Sai Gon auto mechanics company (Samco) to assemble 1,100 new vehicles, using at least 40% of local auto parts. The city's bus transport investment is expected to double this year to VND250bil over last year's VND125bil. In 2002, VND39bil was spent.

In 2003, the city decided to replace 1,318 dilapidated buses to ensure passenger safety. The decision was made following Government approval of the city's investment of VND866bil to build the new buses.

Transport officials said the company Transinco, which is building the new buses, has supplied 400 buses, and the rest are to be delivered by June. Some VND177bil was also spent to build 200 buses to meet increased travel demand on major holidays. However, Mr Luc said the city doesn't have enough parking spaces for the new bus fleet.

The city Public Transport Management and Circulation Centre has proposed that the city build new bus terminals, upgrade existing bus stations and open new bus routes to ease congestion on some major routes to schools, hospitals, and markets. The city also wants to increase the number of bus passengers who book monthly tickets, which now stands at only 15,000 passengers.

The city is making efforts to increase general ridership from the current 5-10% of the population by 2005, Mr Luc said.

(Source: Viet Nam News)


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Byron
They should have gone with the monorail instead. It looks better.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 9 2004, 06:31 PM)
They should have gone with the monorail instead. It looks better.

Why monorail? What the use?

We have a monorail system here in Australia beside the tram, train and bus systems. The monorail is used to ferry visitors around for sightseeing. Considering how small they are and their capacity, why on earth do you think Saigon should get a monorail system? confused.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
Johannjs
Provisional public transportation map for 2020 and after.

Johannjs
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 9 2004, 06:31 PM)
They should have gone with the monorail instead. It looks better.

If you like the monorail you can go to the leisure parks!

In Đầm Sen Park AND Suối Tiên Park, there are monorail trains!!!
Byron
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 9 2004, 06:37 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 9 2004, 06:31 PM)
They should have gone with the monorail instead.  It looks better.

Why monorail? What the use?

We have a monorail system here in Australia beside the tram, train and bus systems. The monorail is used to ferry visitors around for sightseeing. Considering how small they are and their capacity, why on earth do you think Saigon should get a monorail system? confused.gif icon_rolleyes.gif



It looks awesome and tourists can ride on it too. icon_smile.gif
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 9 2004, 06:43 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 9 2004, 06:37 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 9 2004, 06:31 PM)
They should have gone with the monorail instead.  It looks better.

Why monorail? What the use?

We have a monorail system here in Australia beside the tram, train and bus systems. The monorail is used to ferry visitors around for sightseeing. Considering how small they are and their capacity, why on earth do you think Saigon should get a monorail system? confused.gif icon_rolleyes.gif



It looks awesome and tourists can ride on it too. icon_smile.gif

And it gonna fu-king cost ya billions and not to mention it won't deliver the primary objective, to mass transport the population. It will be a "white elephant" for a country not so prosperous. embarassedlaugh.gif
Byron
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 9 2004, 06:46 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 9 2004, 06:43 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 9 2004, 06:37 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 9 2004, 06:31 PM)
They should have gone with the monorail instead.  It looks better.

Why monorail? What the use?

We have a monorail system here in Australia beside the tram, train and bus systems. The monorail is used to ferry visitors around for sightseeing. Considering how small they are and their capacity, why on earth do you think Saigon should get a monorail system? confused.gif icon_rolleyes.gif



It looks awesome and tourists can ride on it too. icon_smile.gif

And it gonna fu-king cost ya billions and not to mention it won't deliver the primary objective, to mass transport the population. It will be a "white elephant" for a country not so prosperous. embarassedlaugh.gif

Yeah but just look at it. The wave of the future. oooooooohhhhhhhh. embarassedlaugh.gif
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 9 2004, 06:48 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 9 2004, 06:46 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 9 2004, 06:43 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jul 9 2004, 06:37 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 9 2004, 06:31 PM)
They should have gone with the monorail instead.  It looks better.

Why monorail? What the use?

We have a monorail system here in Australia beside the tram, train and bus systems. The monorail is used to ferry visitors around for sightseeing. Considering how small they are and their capacity, why on earth do you think Saigon should get a monorail system? confused.gif icon_rolleyes.gif



It looks awesome and tourists can ride on it too. icon_smile.gif

And it gonna fu-king cost ya billions and not to mention it won't deliver the primary objective, to mass transport the population. It will be a "white elephant" for a country not so prosperous. embarassedlaugh.gif

Yeah but just look at it. The wave of the future. oooooooohhhhhhhh. embarassedlaugh.gif

I'm glad you're not in charge of the Vietnamese economy embarassedlaugh.gif
Johannjs
This kinda aerial trains, beside the fact that it's awfully ugly, is mainly designed for island environment or mountainous areas, or Disney type attraction park.

Cannot fit in civilized areas. You'd probably find this kinda stuff in uneasy, stiff and bizarroid areas like... HK?
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