Japan To Consider Fighting For Allies Under Attack

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Japan_To_C...Attack_999.html



Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is leaning toward allowing Japan to exercise the right to collective self-defence in four cases - an attack against an ally, such as the US; when a warship sailing along with a Japanese vessel comes under attack; when a military unit in a multinational forces are attacked; in some situations when Japan is working as part of a UN peacekeeping operation.


by Staff Writers
Tokyo (AFP) April 10, 2007
Japan will consider allowing its military to shoot down a ballistic missile fired at the United States, a report said Saturday, as an exemption from its pacifist constitution. The constitution, imposed by the United States after its defeat of Japan in World War II, bans the use of force in settling international disputes.

While maintaining that Japan has the right to strict self-defence, successive governments have ruled out as unconstitutional so-called "collective self-defence" in which the country fight for allies under attack.

But Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is leaning toward allowing Japan to exercise the right to collective self-defence in four cases, Kyodo News reported citing a government source.

These include the use of Japan's missile defence system against a ballistic missile attack on an allied country, such as the US, Kyodo said.

Abe's government, reputed for its drive to make Japan a more "assertive" nation proud of its history, is due to set up a panel of experts later this month to define exceptional cases in which Japan can fight for an ally under attack.

The other exceptional cases to be considered would be a counterattack when a warship sailing along with a Japanese vessel comes under attack, or when a military unit in a multinational forces are attacked, and in some situations when Japan is working as part of a UN peacekeeping operation.

scratch out both korea and china.

korea is a a very close ally of USA

Basically sh_tzo abe trying to kowtow towards white amerikkka.

Doesn't Japan's gov ever learn that white politicians and amerikkkans in general still view Japanese people as slope heads and at the same level with Chinese and Koreans?

doesn't suprise me , japan is our biatch.

all they can do is make themselves useful in our favor

http://www.strategypage.com/military_photo...0722122823.aspx

Since when china is an ally of Korea?

Maybe North Korea?

The Japanese just love to side with the wrong great power. First time it was Germany and now it's the US.

Don't they ever learn?

when the hell did i say china is an ally of korea?

Korea and Japan are allies of the US which instantly makes them enemies of China

no $hit

Canada is an American ally. Is it an enemy of China? Yeah, I know, I should just STFU.

That makes more than half of world's globe is china's enemy. lol good luck with that.

If the two world wars of the past century have taught us anything about diplomacy, it is that alliances are based on temporal needs, and can change easily.

This is not going to make any difference for China, because China knows Japan will certainly fight on the side of the US if China and the US ever go to war. China is not going to initiate an unprovoked attack on the US.

This will only drag Japan into fighting in the Middle East against Arabs and Muslims for the interest of America's Crusade against Islam. Because that's the only way America will come "under attack" in the foreseeable future.

Americans fight Muslims because they have interconnected political, economic, and monetary reasons, and the century-old unresolved religious enmity. If Japan wants to fight Arabs and Muslim for who-knows-what reasons, then by all means, go ahead. Go be a puppet and bullet shield for Americans, and invite unnecessary troubles back into your home.

War is expensive, so you better be damned sure that you get something out of it. Does Japan get anything out of helping America killing Muslims? Who knows.

Do you honestly think the Koreans would be willing to fight alongside the Japanese in any kind of war?

I doubt it...

China hates Japan
Japan hates China

Japan hates Korea
Korea hates Japan (a lot)

China looks down at Korea
Korea looks down at China

These three just don't get along.

Honestly, as much as a love a good clean war, this East Asian Pacific War MUST never come to pass.

It will set East Asia back more than a century. The only ones who would benefit would be the Americans.

We must not make the same mistake the Europeans made, we must not.

The One Possible Scenario:

Kim Jong Crackpot launches a sudden invasion of the South in 2011, taking advantage of the withdrawal of US forces in Korea to hit the unprepared ROK, the Americans scramble to provide air and naval support-

The elite ROK 707th Commando Squadron neutralizes the North's Nuclear Arsenal by eliminating the guards with the help of some Southern sympathizers and securing the storage facility, along with 6-12 nuclear fission bombs.

After a brutal struggle with savage losses on both sides the Commies are pushed back to the Yalu River near Manchuria by South Korean forces alone-

And Then What?

Suppose our good friends the PLA launched a 'police action' to keep Dear Lil' Kim in power as they did in 1950 to keep Ol' Kim at the top of the food chain while he starved thousands of his own people in his failed state.

There was a saying that went Communist China and North Korea were "As Close as Lips and Teeth'.

However, today nobody knows just how true that statement is as of 2007.

The top echelons of the PRC speak of 'China's Peaceful Rise' and being a 'Responsible Stakeholder' and they're probably sincere about it which is good because they're rational and you can deal with rational people for mutual benefit.

And then there are the fu-kers in the PLA, specifically a band of generals who are itching for a showdown with the USA right now, one of them, a wanker named Xiong Guangkai, threatened to nuke LA in 1996-suicidal in the event of a real nuclear exchange considering its not Somalia you're threatening

The most worrying thing of all is the lack of communication between the PLA and the Leadership, reflected in the recent ASAT test by the PRC. There was a TWO WEEK delay in announcing the ASAT test, the poor guys at the PRC Foreign Ministry didn't know what everyone was so annoyed and worried about because they had not been told anything and they were'nt for two weeks so they just repeated the stuff about China's peaceful rise and not being the first to start an arms race-counterproductive in the extreme and it just makes China look bad.

Back on track, some rogue PLA general or maybe a lot of generals might decide they don't need the CCP anymore and do their own thing-or 'persuade' the leadership that 'a little' action needs to be taken.

If the PLA pushed across the Yalu, I don't think even a unified Korea could withstand them-even with nukes.

If I was Korean, I'd be screaming for help from anyone, US Forces please come back right now-you can stay forever, demanding the arrival of UN forces, asking the ROC whether they can spare a few in return for diplomatic support-all of a sudden any Japanese help looks attractive so long as they don't try to colonize the peninsula again.

Thats the only scenario where I can figure Koreans would fight alongside and be grateful for Japanese help.

Japan will have no choice but to help the Koreans in case of a conflict between Korea and China. Korea's national security is vital to Japan's own national security--If Korea fall to the Chinese, then Japan is, naturally, China's next target.

Correct-

But first the PRC will turn Korea into a vassal state-

If you've studied Chinese history the current CCP still have the mentality of the Emperors that destroyed China up to 1911-

Which means you guys might need another Kamikaze to bail you out from the PLA hordes-

Hopefully, my adopted country will come riding to the rescue-despite all the bad things about it-fundamentally the USA is the most stable and consistent ally in the history of man and has never broken a promise to help its allies.

History makes them enemies of China.

1. I want Japan to take an more active roll.
2. I am for both Indian & Japanese perminent seats in the UN's Security Council, with VETO power.
3. However, I do think the Japanese government needs to bend over backwards and apologize for WWII attrocities.

FYI, Korea & China may have been the most victimized by Imperial Japan in WWII and prior, but they are hardly the only ones.

And just how is China going to accomplish that, with nuclear weapons? Not a chance. Why use nuclear weapons if you are trying to capture the land?

All out invasion isn't going to work. The Chinese do not have large amphibious capability to make landings in Korea, and with the small amount that they try to do so with will be annihilated by anti-ship defenses and Harpoon batteries sprinkled around the country.

Trying to push down the DMZ isn't going to work, either. They will have to get through the North Koreans first, which will wreck havoc among Chinese logistics lines with their massive special forces, and then the concentrated firepower of South Koreans in the DMZ as well as minefields and man-made obstacles that the South Koreans worked on for over past half a century. Even if the Chinese does manage to break through the DMZ, they still have to deal with the five-million reservists, every one of them having military training as well as equipment stored around in caches.

It's simply not going to work.

What a great friend Japan is. I hope the U.S. will do the same thing for Japan without taking their money.


U.S loves money for sure.

Japanese's underlying hatred, aggression and racism is beginning to rear his ugly head again and we're moving into the renewal of Japan and China's power/politics.

The revisionist history stuff says one thing but the active pursuit of good relations between countries says another. It's confuzzling.

they might be bad, but they're not like the worst rulers who barred the advancement of science and forced stagnation. quite the opposite really, they're repressing most ideologies and putting money and science ahead of everything. and they killed china's spirituality.

Japanese military is weaker than the Korean counterpart. The Koreans have the largest air force in the entire continent of Asia. The only real danger from N.K. are the artillery aimed at Seoul. It could at any point bomb the crap out of it, but in a war scenario the Communist North do not stand a chance against the South. China atm are very sensitive not to engage in wars while it is still in a critical economic stage, hence their reluctance to support NK in the nuclear crisis.

The Japanese military is a joke comapare to the Korean military, although there are rumours of f-22 acquisitions.

Sound very practical.