Hey Folks!!!

I cant illustrate the tremendous issue of Khmer and VN by myself. So i would like to have a support and a provide from you all opinion to fingure out as:

Would you think in the further the VN and Khmer getting a great relationships altogether???

It will be nice if we become in once????


Discussion!!! . No fighting just use your knowledgment to discuss!!!



RH. :genius:

In the distant future perhaps, not in the near future, too many things to work out, too many hard feelings that will not go away. But like many things, unchecked aminosity will also wane with time.

maybe we can better ours relation once the khmer peoples stop living in pol pot's shawdow and following in his foot step.
retaking south vietnam and every part of land used to be cambodia and "purify" by killing all the vietnamese was pol pot's ambition.
also you cannot blaim the vietnamese peoples for the killing field incident. it the victem was clearly died by the hand of pol pot he killed them because he belived that 1 khmer is equal to 30 vietnamese so he decided that most khmer is no longer needed and put them to death.
it was him who kill one third of the cambodian population because they rise agianst him and he acused them of having " a vietnamese mind".
another is that he commited mass murder and kill almost all of the vietnamese that live in cambodia.
lastly you must understand that it was not north vietnam that supported the khmer rouge but rather then China/N.Korea/and the United State of America.
If choosen to ignore and spreads lies futher more passing it down to your childrens then there is no hope for a good relation among ours peoples in the future. IF chose to do so Khmer and vietnam cannot coexist.

I am not trying to start a flame war with you here. So, don't get offended. However, I disagreed with you on the part that N. VN or VC did not support Khmer Rouge. N. VN and VC did supported Khmer Rouge up until 1975 when KR took control of Cambodia. Yes, China did supported Khmer Rouge, but military supplies, technical assistant, moral support only - unlike N. VN and VC which provided military trainings and combat troop supports. Did you know that many of the Khmer Rouge commanders were trained in Hanoi? However, Pol Pot had purged most of them after the war.

I think the only support N. Korea provided was moral support and that was about it.

The USA never supported KR directly. The USA supported a united front of Khmer resistant forces, which included the KR, that were fighting against the Vietnamese's occupation of Combodia during the 1980's.

yes the VC did trained the khmer rouge during the vietnam war but they became enermies after before the killing field incident so what i mean is they did not support khmer rouge in the genocide process

iam not defending the north vietnamese government or anything believe me they are no angel but saying north vietnam is controlling pol pot to kill his own peoples is far from the truth.

other countries though countinue to support pol pot even thought he did all those terrible things agianst his own peoples. not to mention they killed almost all of the chinese ethnic and the chinese government still aids them.

yup the kr killed their own people on their own free will, no one force them

Where do I begin....

First, let's start off with this forum. Despite the exchanges of insults and flames between the two groups (mainly few members from each groups with raging hormones), I personally have nothing against the Khmers. In fact, I do find some Khmer members here are quite genuinely humble. And I really respected that. You shouldn't draw a hasty conclusion about the relationship between the Vietnamese and the Khmers based on the events that happened in this forum.
As far as the political situation between Vietnam and Kampuchia, Vietnam has to influence Kampuchia's policy because of what happen in the mid 70's. We don't want that to occur again for the interest and protection of the Vietnamese people. The political infrastructure of Kampuchia is not where it should be. If let alone, someone else will be in place of Vietnam (yes, China or someone). Until the foundation of your government is strong it will remain a geo-political maneuver and influence by the others.
As far as the idea of taking back the southern part, I honestly think it's far-fetched. What we live in this era of history is NOT the same as what we were in those days when one country can overpower and take over the other without intervention by other countries. (Okie maybe one *cough* *cough* US *cough*). It's different now. It's history. You need to take what you have now and move on and make something good of what you got. Those are the days of what we called the survival of the fittest. Everybody did it. Khmer was once a powerful and influential empire in the southeast asia. She did not become an empire without annexation from others. So you see. That is the way nature had intented. Big fish eats little fish. Natural law of selection.
So can we all get along now?

EDIT: I want to share with you one quote that I really like from Morihei Ueshiba (a founding father of Aikido)

The Art of Peace is medicine for a sick world. There is evil and disorder in the world because people have forgotten that all things emanate from one source. Return to that source and leave behind all self-centered thoughts, petty desires, and anger. Those who are possessed by nothing possess everything.

yes i agreed most cambodian are smart and humble not to mention they are very friendly but the fews racist one pressure bad influent on them.

actually growthing up all my friend was cambodian i never hang out with anybody else when i first mets them they are very racist saying comment like vietnamese peoples eat dogs and so on and we fought alots but after 2 years of living next door to him and his brother we became very close friend. i remembered we always used to play golden eyes 007 for the N64 alsmot everyday after school till midnight....goood ol memories. and yea i owns anybody in that game!!!! haha
damn i miss that place...life suck after high school...even thought i only got out for 3 and somewhat weeks....

Ah it's gonna be a long and difficult road ahead. Cambodians still hold tremendous animosity (which I can't really blame them) towards Vietnamese for the taking of Khmer Krom as well as the invasion and subsequent occupation of Cambodia for 10 years, between 1979 and 1989. Now Vietnam is propping up Hun Sen. Most Khmers would agree with me that Hun Sen is a terrible leader.

All I can say is that Vietnam should stop meddling with Cambodian internal affairs and leave them to decide their fate while we help them any way possible economically and diplomatically.

Let's hope that the Khmer anger directed towards Vietnamese people will wane over time and one day we'll be good buddies and cooperate/assist one another to prosper diplomatically/politically and economically.

That's my two cents.

to tell u the truth, personally i dont hate vietnamese people. Hate is a very strong word. Most of us from the former indochina, suffered alot in those times, and the new generations over here shouldnt be judge by wht ur forefathers did in the past, unless u want it to end up like between the Former Yugoslav Federation.

I confide you all that i have no problem with the VN at all, because i borned in there, and i used to have alot of peer friend VNs, we had a lot of memorizes altogether!! But then, I cant like the VCs regime at all...Because its annoyed to my feeling. I just cant consent about its baseline opinion...Whatever that it had done to the Khmers innocent is jut making me increasing tantrum all the times...But if it confess that its was executed the khmers innocent at the KR era, then i dun feel give up and revenge it too much...But the problem, its evasive crime that it has been done in the past...how can i forgive its!!! But hey!!! You all VNs and Khmers have no problem at all....How do all VN think about the VC regime????? :genius:

well i cant say anything about the VC regime since i only live there only for 9 years of my life and i was pretty young to worry about politic or anything like that i was sort of more into having fun like any other normal kid. so i will use my father's point of view.

my father fought for the south during the vietnam war because he wanted to keep the prosperity in South Vietnam. Before the communist took over, according to him South Vietnam was once a rich country till the communist sieze it.

He dont support communist he told me that they are lair,thief and the master of manipulation. who claim to love thier peoples but robs from them.

thats about all i heard from him because we rarely talk to each other.
to answer to your question, i think that my father hate north vietnam,he taught me never to trust them untill today i still keep that in mind to honnor him.It doesnt matter if my dislike for Vietcong is wrong or right one thing for sure is i dont keep hate in my heart.

Its a great to hear what is your comment as aboved: I've a brief issue to indicate for you as: Before 1975, my father was a Nguyen Van Thieu Soldier, after the Ng V Thieu democrat regime collapse, then the VC regime occupied the whole South VN. By that time, all the people who work for Thieu were penalty in the Con Dao

Island...my father was an once of victim...It had no longer he was pass away in that Island, I didnt even see him!!! . That case is making me to decline about

he VC regime altimate supervision on us Khmers and you all VN. As you all and us Khmers used to live in abundance of glorious lives, and freedom, dignity, independence..."Choc co gai VNs bang tieng VN rat la de-dang" But now we all are suffer and miserable for entirelives...Cause from the rouge VC regime!!! Your families and mine's as the same scandle situation, we all lost everything in back home, ...The VC regime confiscated our properties and stores, vehicles, motors, Cows, buffaloes and very much more...Should we, VN and Khmers reunited in once battle back the VC for our South VN Country??? What do you think my friend????? :genius:

we have sufer from the same trauma, the burden that ours past history has put on us. your back ground and mine are very much alike and iam greatful to meet someone that i can relate to.

I know that is it agianst everything my father taught me but i cannot live in the past. i want to choose my owns life and not living in his shawdow. war is not a game peoples are actually dying and suffering from it. i no longer seek for revenge but rather for something else that is worth living.

Never forget where we came from but it is time to move on, there is an endless future ahead of us.

Most of your talking really satisfied me.

Hey! My friend where are you living??? If you living in the USA, you might hear a news as the whole Viets democrat involve with the Khmers to attack back the VC...The Viets democrat indicated the the VC invastate their religions and legacies...They just didnt like to live under the command of the VC as Khmers...They said they hope the right time coming soon!!! They've a good connection with us Khmers. Would you like to return living in South VN if the Khmers and the VN democrat liberate the beloved South VN Land????????Telling me your truth!!!!!! :genius:

just hoping this thread shuts up some of the haterz from both sides.

stupid fu-ker

Looks like someone doesn't care much for peace.

Oh well, Thay and FKR have another friend.

I think that MQSH and another friends seem careless about the freedom!!! Whatever that they said just making me riled up and intentional revenge them back. Actually i tried to terminate all these bashing stuffs from myself...But i just cant, because NQSH always like to ignite the flame war...If the God didnt born NQSH...By now, we have a great relationships altogether.... NQSH is too much rebellion :genius: :genius: