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supernovasp
Most of the girls that marry Taiwanese and Koreans are from the Mekong Delta region. confused.gif I always thought that it was merely a soci-economic issue. Well the majority part of it is because of socio-economic, they are poor farmer girls, but Mien tay always had been the richer part of the country (from the rich fertile agriculture land). You rarely hear girls from the central region marry out even though they're much poorer than girls from mien tay confused.gif



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Tổng cộng có tới 118 cô gái (hầu hết là người miền Tây, từ 18–25 tuổi) đang ngồi chờ một đoàn người Hàn Quốc đến xem mặt chọn vợ.

Cảnh sát c̣n phát hiện hơn 20 chủ chứa ở Q11 và quận Tân Phú (đang tiếp tục xác minh) liên quan đến đường dây môi giới trái phép này. Điển h́nh là vợ chồng Huỳnh Thị Thu Thủy và Sên Cẩm D́u (trú tại đường Công chúa Ngọc Hân, P13, quận 11, TP HCM), 2 đối tượng chuyên môi giới hôn nhân trái phép.

Trước đó, khi có hai người đàn ông Hàn Quốc bước vào ṭa nhà để xem mặt các cô gái, công an đă ập vào kiểm tra. Ngoài 2 người trên, c̣n 8 người Hàn Quốc ngồi đợi trong xe ô tô cách ṭa nhà khoảng 100m để chờ đi xem mặt các cô gái.

Mỗi người Hàn Quốc vào xem mặt là chủ nhà thu "phí"...500.000 đồng. Trong khoảng 4-5 năm trở lại đây, vợ chồng Thuỷ D́u khai nhận đă môi giới trái phép cho 40 cô gái lấy chồng Hàn Quốc. Chú rể Hàn sau khi "chọn" được vợ sẽ trả chi phí môi giới là 3 triệu đồng/cô.

Hiện 118 cô gái trên đă được giải quyết, yêu cầu đưa trở về lại địa phương cư trú.
ntn1987
tại sao đàn ông Việt cứ tối ngày ăn nhậu, không lo làm ăn, bỏ bê vợ con. Tại sao vậy?
VietMen play an important role in influencing VietWomen to marry overseas men.
Captain_Obvious
em nail is the best.
jose cuervo
God damn. Mỗi lần vô trong Viet Chat này là mỗi lần thấy tức, cứ muốn chữi God damn cả ngày.


supernovasp
QUOTE(ntn1987 @ Apr 9 2007, 08:17 PM) [snapback]2855781[/snapback]

tại sao đàn ông Việt cứ tối ngày ăn nhậu, không lo làm ăn, bỏ bê vợ con. Tại sao vậy?
VietMen play an important role in influencing VietWomen to marry overseas men.

Uh No, most countries in Asia are like that. The men work and then go drink at night. It's not just Vietnamese men. I'm asking why SPECIFICaLLY Mien tay girls are the one who marrying outside, while girls from other poor region like Central regions (who historically had been poorer than the rest of the country) don't marry outside.


OK I found an article that has explainations why:

QUOTE
Kim stresses that most of the Vietnamese women who marry Korean men come from farming villages in the country’s southern Mekong Delta. In 2005, the Korean Embassy in Hanoi in the North issued 720 marriage visas. The number of marriage visas issued by the consulate in the southern city of Ho Chi Minh was five times higher at 3,853.
Vietnam’s Doi Moi (reform) policies have improved its economy greatly, but the gap between urban and rural areas has grown, with the upper 10 percent income brackets earning 13.5 times more than the bottom 10 percent in 2005. The Mekong Delta also suffers an imbalance between the number of men and women, because many men moved to cities to find a job. In 2004, there were 365,300 more women than men in the region. Kim says all these social and economic problems led Vietnamese women to seeking husbands abroad.

Annexed in the late 17th century, the Mekong Delta has very different traditions and culture from the north. It embraced Indian, Islamic, French and American influences over the course of history, which makes it far less influenced by Confucianism than the north and thus more open to marriage with foreigners. Since milk money is common, arranged marriages are also familiar.

The third reason is social changes in neighboring nations. Until 2000, most Vietnamese women married Taiwanese men -- some 13,863 in 2000 alone. Taiwanese men, like Korean men now, would be introduced to tens or hundreds of women by matchmaking agencies during a weeklong visit to Vietnam. If they met a woman they liked, they would register their marriage there and then before returning home with their brides. But Taiwan saw the same problems Korea is now facing, including human trafficking and domestic violence, so the Taiwanese government made it harder to acquire citizenship, which resulted in decrease in such marriages. Korean men are filling the gap. The number of marriages between Korean men and Vietnamese women jumped from 95 in 2000 to 5,822 in 2005, leaving Taiwan behind with 3,212.

Lastly, the Korean pop culture craze sweeping Asia has played a part. Some 100 Korean dramas were aired in Vietnam from 1997 until 2005. The drama “Jewel in the Palace” has been aired five times. Women in Vietnam’s rural areas, where newspapers and magazines are rare and TV is almost the only link to the outside world, have come to admire Korea by watching the soaps. The local media have warned of the illusions about Korea created by these dramas.

Kim is calling for measures to help Vietnamese women married to Korean men. “The government should develop Korean language programs for them according to their academic level and provide support to ease their economic difficulties and help them find jobs,” he said.

landsknechts
Those women are the ones who are not wanted by the Viet Kieus; sad but true.
supernovasp
may nguoi mien tay lam cho nguoi mien nam tai tieng qua! icon_confused.gif
bluelakedragon
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Apr 9 2007, 08:35 PM) [snapback]2856105[/snapback]

may nguoi mien tay lam cho nguoi mien nam tai tieng qua! icon_confused.gif



Dude,

Wassup with the bashing of southerners, DAWG??!!

firstly, you already generalized southern girls in your topic question but then why you need to know why if you made up your mind already?
You already made up your mind that they're "đua đồi quá" but when you "find" your answer saying because they came from rural poor areas, you then called them " tai tieng qua". what the "pig" man!!!

why the south have to be "tai tieng qua" but not VIETNAM "tai tieng qua"??!!!

what about those 700+ marrying Korean men, why are not they "tai tieng qua" for the north???


You already know the answers which are mainly because they are very poor and the influence of Korean culture thru their movie dramas. I don't think you have been to "mien tay" before and see how poor they are to have a generaliztion like that. I don't even think you been back to Vietnam lately and see how many foreign dramas and programs on Vietnam TV. MAJORITY of the TV programs are either Korean, Cantonese, or Mandarin and the rest are low quality VCP propaganda $hit! People in here been back can testify on that!
Not only that, according to your 1st article, they are been exploited by both the "lovematchers" and the Korean men because simply those girls are poor. and if you want to know why Korean men want to marry so many "mien tay" girls, why don't you go to Korean Chat room and ask them???


I know you're a mod and have a tougher task than us here but I thought you would know better than most of us between a flame thread and a nonflame thread.
SoCal
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Apr 9 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]2856105[/snapback]

may nguoi mien tay lam cho nguoi mien nam tai tieng qua! icon_confused.gif


Please restrain yourself from stereotyping the whole group of people.

Do you know that there are many people of Vietnamese ancestry who make a living by planting marijuana and selling the plant to make a profit in Canada? Of course, it is illegal but it is easy money. Well, if you talk to those Vietnamese, do you know which region they come from? Yes, you are right. They come from Northern Vietnam. But it is wrong of me to stereotype that Northern Vietnamese are into drugs, right!

So is it fair and right for me to stereotype the whole region, North and South like this!

Southern Vietnamese girls are into selling their bodies for easy money.

Northern Vietnamese people are into drugs because they make easy money.


Of course, this is wrong of me to do that.

Please stop making stereotypical and judgemental statements and try to think of constructive ways to help improve the lives of the people.

http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs21/21137/marijuana.htm

High potency marijuana production, smuggling, and distribution by Canada-based Asian DTOs, primarily of Vietnamese ethnicity, is increasing.

Marijuana distribution by Asians DTOs is increasing: Mexican DTOs are the dominant wholesale distributors of marijuana in the United States, and other organizations such as African American, Jamaican, and Cuban DTOs also distribute wholesale quantities of the drug in various areas of the country. However, the control by Asian criminal groups--primarily Vietnamese but also Cambodian, Chinese, Hmong, Korean, Laotian, and Thai groups--over wholesale marijuana distribution has increased significantly, particularly the distribution of high potency marijuana.

Please read about this if you don't belieave me.

http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/40...60f1c53.do.html

The Canadian drug train to Asia
Fri, July 22 2005
By Asian Pacific News Service



"Canada grass is the best marijuana in the world."

The young teen goes by the initial "H" and he is the "captain" of a group of six youths who roam the streets of Hanoi, Vietnam.

Many grow-op houses are run by Vietnamese-Canadians, this is a trend we see and it's not a racist comment. You can judge for yourself why B.C. bud is so hot in Vietnam today," he said.


British Columbia has long been the hub of sophisticated, high-tech marijuana nurseries capable of producing pot with nearly 30 times the kick of what was found on the street a decade ago, according to the Drug Enforcement Agency.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6445201.stm

Cannabis - a UK growth industry

A police officer at a cannabis farm raid in September 2006
The number of illegal cannabis farms found by police in the UK has trebled in the last two years, according to a drugs charity.


But how do the growers actually operate?



According to the report, 75% of Britain's cannabis factories are run by Vietnamese gangs.


Harry Shapiro of DrugScope says it is believed that Vietnamese gangsters in Canada initially turned their attentions towards manufacturing cannabis after losing control of the illegal timber trade.
arun
QUOTE(bluelakedragon @ Apr 10 2007, 03:30 PM) [snapback]2858323[/snapback]

Dude,

wassup with the bashing of southerners dawg??!!

firstly, you already generalized southern girls in your topic question but then why you need to know why if you made up your mind already?
IPB ImageYou already made up your mind that they're "đua đồi quá" but when you "find" your answer saying because they came from rural poor areas, you then called them " tai tieng qua". what the "pig" man!!!

why the south have to be "tai tieng qua" but not VIETNAM "tai tieng qua"??!!!

what about those 700+ marrying Korean men, why are not they "tai tieng qua" for the north???
You already know the answers which are mainly because they are very poor and the influence of Korean culture thru their movie dramas. I don't think you have been to "mien tay" before and see how poor they are to have a generaliztion like that. I don't even think you been back to Vietnam lately and see how many foreign dramas and programs on Vietnam TV. MAJORITY of the TV programs are either Korean, Cantonese, or Mandarin and the rest are low quality VCP propaganda $hit! People in here been back can testify on that!
Not only that, according to your 1st article, they are been exploited by both the "lovematchers" and the Korean men because simply those girls are poor. and if you want to know why Korean men want to marry so many "mien tay" girls, why don't you go to Korean Chat room and ask them???
I know you're a mod and have a tougher task than us here but I thought you would know better than most of us between a flame thread and a nonflame thread.

I totally disagree with some of the things you say.
supernovasp
QUOTE(bluelakedragon @ Apr 10 2007, 04:30 PM) [snapback]2858323[/snapback]

Dude,

Wassup with the bashing of southerners, DAWG??!!

firstly, you already generalized southern girls in your topic question but then why you need to know why if you made up your mind already?
You already made up your mind that they're "đua đồi quá" but when you "find" your answer saying because they came from rural poor areas, you then called them " tai tieng qua". what the "pig" man!!!

why the south have to be "tai tieng qua" but not VIETNAM "tai tieng qua"??!!!

what about those 700+ marrying Korean men, why are not they "tai tieng qua" for the north???
You already know the answers which are mainly because they are very poor and the influence of Korean culture thru their movie dramas. I don't think you have been to "mien tay" before and see how poor they are to have a generaliztion like that. I don't even think you been back to Vietnam lately and see how many foreign dramas and programs on Vietnam TV. MAJORITY of the TV programs are either Korean, Cantonese, or Mandarin and the rest are low quality VCP propaganda $hit! People in here been back can testify on that!
Not only that, according to your 1st article, they are been exploited by both the "lovematchers" and the Korean men because simply those girls are poor. and if you want to know why Korean men want to marry so many "mien tay" girls, why don't you go to Korean Chat room and ask them???
I know you're a mod and have a tougher task than us here but I thought you would know better than most of us between a flame thread and a nonflame thread.


1. Mien tay is POOR, but mien tay is not poor compare to other regions of Vietnam
2.Most foreign movies are broadcasted NATIONWIDE

So I question why is the majority of girls who marry outside are from Mien Tay, where the central region is one of the poorest region of Vietnam. They also watch the same thing that Southerners watch. confused.gif


QUOTE(SoCal @ Apr 10 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]2858362[/snapback]

Please restrain yourself from stereotyping the whole group of people.

Do you know that there are many people of Vietnamese ancestry who make a living by planting marijuana and selling the plant to make a profit in Canada? Of course, it is illegal but it is easy money. Well, if you talk to those Vietnamese, do you know which region they come from? Yes, you are right. They come from Northern Vietnam. But it is wrong of me to stereotype that Northern Vietnamese are into drugs, right!

So is it fair and right for me to stereotype the whole region, North and South like this!

Southern Vietnamese girls are into selling their bodies for easy money.

Northern Vietnamese people are into drugs because they make easy money.


Of course, this is wrong of me to do that.

Please stop making stereotypical and judgemental statements and try to think of constructive ways to help improve the lives of the people.

http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs21/21137/marijuana.htm

High potency marijuana production, smuggling, and distribution by Canada-based Asian DTOs, primarily of Vietnamese ethnicity, is increasing.

Marijuana distribution by Asians DTOs is increasing: Mexican DTOs are the dominant wholesale distributors of marijuana in the United States, and other organizations such as African American, Jamaican, and Cuban DTOs also distribute wholesale quantities of the drug in various areas of the country. However, the control by Asian criminal groups--primarily Vietnamese but also Cambodian, Chinese, Hmong, Korean, Laotian, and Thai groups--over wholesale marijuana distribution has increased significantly, particularly the distribution of high potency marijuana.

Please read about this if you don't belieave me.

http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/40...60f1c53.do.html

The Canadian drug train to Asia
Fri, July 22 2005
By Asian Pacific News Service

"Canada grass is the best marijuana in the world."

The young teen goes by the initial "H" and he is the "captain" of a group of six youths who roam the streets of Hanoi, Vietnam.

Many grow-op houses are run by Vietnamese-Canadians, this is a trend we see and it's not a racist comment. You can judge for yourself why B.C. bud is so hot in Vietnam today," he said.
British Columbia has long been the hub of sophisticated, high-tech marijuana nurseries capable of producing pot with nearly 30 times the kick of what was found on the street a decade ago, according to the Drug Enforcement Agency.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6445201.stm

Cannabis - a UK growth industry

A police officer at a cannabis farm raid in September 2006
The number of illegal cannabis farms found by police in the UK has trebled in the last two years, according to a drugs charity.
But how do the growers actually operate?

According to the report, 75% of Britain's cannabis factories are run by Vietnamese gangs.
Harry Shapiro of DrugScope says it is believed that Vietnamese gangsters in Canada initially turned their attentions towards manufacturing cannabis after losing control of the illegal timber trade.


Most of Vietnamese Canadians are from the South. However, a large majority of Vietnamese in England are Northern England. Also a lot of Vietnamese Australians are drug dealers who come from Southern areas. icon_confused.gif
jose cuervo
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Apr 9 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]2856105[/snapback]

may nguoi Viet Nam Cong Hoa lam cho nguoi mien nam tai tieng qua! icon_confused.gif


I had to fix up your sentence a little bit, it had an little error in it. kiss.gif
jimm¥
QUOTE(SoCal @ Apr 11 2007, 06:59 AM) [snapback]2858362[/snapback]

Please restrain yourself from stereotyping the whole group of people.

Do you know that there are many people of Vietnamese ancestry who make a living by planting marijuana and selling the plant to make a profit in Canada? Of course, it is illegal but it is easy money. Well, if you talk to those Vietnamese, do you know which region they come from? Yes, you are right. They come from Northern Vietnam. But it is wrong of me to stereotype that Northern Vietnamese are into drugs, right!

So is it fair and right for me to stereotype the whole region, North and South like this!

Southern Vietnamese girls are into selling their bodies for easy money.

Northern Vietnamese people are into drugs because they make easy money.


Of course, this is wrong of me to do that.

Please stop making stereotypical and judgemental statements and try to think of constructive ways to help improve the lives of the people.

http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs21/21137/marijuana.htm

High potency marijuana production, smuggling, and distribution by Canada-based Asian DTOs, primarily of Vietnamese ethnicity, is increasing.

Marijuana distribution by Asians DTOs is increasing: Mexican DTOs are the dominant wholesale distributors of marijuana in the United States, and other organizations such as African American, Jamaican, and Cuban DTOs also distribute wholesale quantities of the drug in various areas of the country. However, the control by Asian criminal groups--primarily Vietnamese but also Cambodian, Chinese, Hmong, Korean, Laotian, and Thai groups--over wholesale marijuana distribution has increased significantly, particularly the distribution of high potency marijuana.

Please read about this if you don't belieave me.

http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/40...60f1c53.do.html

The Canadian drug train to Asia
Fri, July 22 2005
By Asian Pacific News Service

"Canada grass is the best marijuana in the world."

The young teen goes by the initial "H" and he is the "captain" of a group of six youths who roam the streets of Hanoi, Vietnam.

Many grow-op houses are run by Vietnamese-Canadians, this is a trend we see and it's not a racist comment. You can judge for yourself why B.C. bud is so hot in Vietnam today," he said.
British Columbia has long been the hub of sophisticated, high-tech marijuana nurseries capable of producing pot with nearly 30 times the kick of what was found on the street a decade ago, according to the Drug Enforcement Agency.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6445201.stm

Cannabis - a UK growth industry

A police officer at a cannabis farm raid in September 2006
The number of illegal cannabis farms found by police in the UK has trebled in the last two years, according to a drugs charity.
But how do the growers actually operate?

According to the report, 75% of Britain's cannabis factories are run by Vietnamese gangs.
Harry Shapiro of DrugScope says it is believed that Vietnamese gangsters in Canada initially turned their attentions towards manufacturing cannabis after losing control of the illegal timber trade.


so basicly ,ur generalising the northern vietnamese as criminals base on marijuana ...and british columbia
But i do agree in some facts.Its all a planned recipe. The U.S is a huge market and is right next door to Canada, who takes the hard criminals and VC refugees.
As a refugee in a second country,every one wants to migrate to a third country of their choice. If u had 'criminal records' ,no nations will accept u besides canada...so frankly, canadas full of criminal genes.
and there the marijuana bizo originated and vietnamese all over follow suit...the southerns in Toronto had much contribution to the trade
where i am,there are ten times as much southern criminals than northern ones,but whos counting? shrug.gif
jimm¥
IMO, the mien tay girls would never see a viet kieu,let alone meet one embarassedlaugh.gif ....
lets generalize the poor girls with overseas dreams.The ones on the outskirts are much more expose to viet kieus and forein 'tourists',sometime very natural for a poor girl to meet/hook up with a foreigner...on d other hand,the mien tay girls would have to go through agents / 'dich vu'.Its not that they re unwanted by VKs....btw, i heard they are hawt!
TrashCleaner
QUOTE(SoCal @ Apr 11 2007, 06:59 AM) [snapback]2858362[/snapback]

Please restrain yourself from stereotyping the whole group of people.

Do you know that there are many people of Vietnamese ancestry who make a living by planting marijuana and selling the plant to make a profit in Canada? Of course, it is illegal but it is easy money. Well, if you talk to those Vietnamese, do you know which region they come from? Yes, you are right. They come from Northern Vietnam. But it is wrong of me to stereotype that Northern Vietnamese are into drugs, right!

So is it fair and right for me to stereotype the whole region, North and South like this!

Southern Vietnamese girls are into selling their bodies for easy money.

Northern Vietnamese people are into drugs because they make easy money.


Of course, this is wrong of me to do that.

Please stop making stereotypical and judgemental statements and try to think of constructive ways to help improve the lives of the people.

http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs21/21137/marijuana.htm

High potency marijuana production, smuggling, and distribution by Canada-based Asian DTOs, primarily of Vietnamese ethnicity, is increasing.

Marijuana distribution by Asians DTOs is increasing: Mexican DTOs are the dominant wholesale distributors of marijuana in the United States, and other organizations such as African American, Jamaican, and Cuban DTOs also distribute wholesale quantities of the drug in various areas of the country. However, the control by Asian criminal groups--primarily Vietnamese but also Cambodian, Chinese, Hmong, Korean, Laotian, and Thai groups--over wholesale marijuana distribution has increased significantly, particularly the distribution of high potency marijuana.

Please read about this if you don't belieave me.

http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/40...60f1c53.do.html

The Canadian drug train to Asia
Fri, July 22 2005
By Asian Pacific News Service

"Canada grass is the best marijuana in the world."

The young teen goes by the initial "H" and he is the "captain" of a group of six youths who roam the streets of Hanoi, Vietnam.

Many grow-op houses are run by Vietnamese-Canadians, this is a trend we see and it's not a racist comment. You can judge for yourself why B.C. bud is so hot in Vietnam today," he said.
British Columbia has long been the hub of sophisticated, high-tech marijuana nurseries capable of producing pot with nearly 30 times the kick of what was found on the street a decade ago, according to the Drug Enforcement Agency.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6445201.stm

Cannabis - a UK growth industry

A police officer at a cannabis farm raid in September 2006
The number of illegal cannabis farms found by police in the UK has trebled in the last two years, according to a drugs charity.
But how do the growers actually operate?

According to the report, 75% of Britain's cannabis factories are run by Vietnamese gangs.
Harry Shapiro of DrugScope says it is believed that Vietnamese gangsters in Canada initially turned their attentions towards manufacturing cannabis after losing control of the illegal timber trade.


most (nearly all) of vietnamese in us, canada, australia are from south vietnam.

north vietnamese are mainly in european countries like france, poland, russia, germany etc. they are already well-off or actively engaging in retail trade in these countries.

canabis growing may have something to do with the hmong in north vietnam (who grew it as a job before) & with the chinese opium things introduced to vietnam when china was heavily drugged.

Old confucian social structure in the north is still very strong, so you would expect things like: prefer boys over girls, girls less into selling bodies, more loyal to husband, stricter with money, valuing education,...etc. Nothing strange at all.

gai mien tay in south vietnam are probably influenced by neighbouring culture...that is why.
bluelakedragon
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Apr 10 2007, 06:03 PM) [snapback]2858847[/snapback]

1. Mien tay is POOR, but mien tay is not poor compare to other regions of Vietnam
2.Most foreign movies are broadcasted NATIONWIDE

So I question why is the majority of girls who marry outside are from Mien Tay, where the central region is one of the poorest region of Vietnam. They also watch the same thing that Southerners watch. confused.gif




1. they are poor but do you know 3000+ girls out of how many girls in Mien Tay?
from looking at this population concentration map, you can tell there are more people living in Mien Tay than the Central or more in the South than the North.

IPB Image


2. I don't want to say foreign dramas is the only factor but if you're going to say that of Mien Tay girls, you can also ask yourself why 700+ northerner girls marry outside while the rest of the country and specifically the central are watching the same thing??? confused.gif
supernovasp
QUOTE(bluelakedragon @ Apr 11 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]2861394[/snapback]

1. they are poor but do you know 3000+ girls out of how many girls in Mien Tay?
from looking at this population concentration map, you can tell there are more people living in Mien Tay than the Central or more in the South than the North.

IPB Image
2. I don't want to say foreign dramas is the only factor but if you're going to say that of Mien Tay girls, you can also ask yourself why 700+ northerner girls marry outside while the rest of the country and specifically the central are watching the same thing??? confused.gif

1. UHH there are more population in the north more than the south as you in the map. The density of Vietnamese people in the north are the highest (with the darkest color), while the South is more spread out. Yet, there are more girls (three times higher) than the North, plus Northern Vietnamese farmers are much more poorer than the Southern Vietnamese farmers (because of geographical location and climate). Yet they marry out the most.

Oh well this is really fruitless.
vietguy1
HHhhahahaha, you guys made me laugh with yours naive questions everytime i visited the site. I mean y'all should grow up and realize that the majority of girls wants to date men for their money. Although, those fu-king $hitty Taiwanese and Koreans are poor $hit in their country, or when compare to the U.S. standard, but when it comes to rural Vietnamese, they've become rich, now that's why they got to pick Mekong Delta girls. You guys could do the same thing too and choose a wife from a bunch of Viet girls, because y'all Vietkieus, so y'all should make more money than those Asian bastards. However, if y'all are too gentlement to pick the girls, then don't fu-kING complains.
SoCal
Viet Guy icon_smile.gif

Is this really necessary? Please calm down, Sir.
bluelakedragon
QUOTE(jimm¥ @ Apr 11 2007, 06:13 AM) [snapback]2860440[/snapback]

so basicly ,ur generalising the northern vietnamese as criminals base on marijuana ...and british columbia
But i do agree in some facts.Its all a planned recipe. The U.S is a huge market and is right next door to Canada, who takes the hard criminals and VC refugees.
As a refugee in a second country,every one wants to migrate to a third country of their choice. If u had 'criminal records' ,no nations will accept u besides canada...so frankly, canadas full of criminal genes.
and there the marijuana bizo originated and vietnamese all over follow suit...the southerns in Toronto had much contribution to the trade
where i am,there are ten times as much southern criminals than northern ones,but whos counting? shrug.gif



I'm not sure about the US and Canada but in England most Viet weed growers/traffickers are illegal immigrants looking to get rich quick. They either sneek in illegally from neighboring countries or came in by labor contract and ran away.


LINK
QUOTE
Police 'can't cope' as Vietnamese flood drugs trade


Gangs make millions by targeting London with cannabis grown in houses rented from unsuspecting landlords

Tony Thompson
Sunday September 11, 2005
The Observer

Police in swaths of London are being 'overwhelmed' by Vietnamese gangs flooding the streets with high-strength, home-grown cannabis.

The gangs, who have also been linked to murders, people-smuggling and kidnapping, are making millions of pounds by renting houses from unsuspecting landlords and converting them into sophisticated cannabis farms.

Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur, head of the Metropolitan Police Specialist Crime Directorate, told The Observer the problem was now so significant that his officers were working closely with the Vietnamese authorities and community to stamp out the problem.


Police 'can't cope' as Vietnamese flood drugs trade


Gangs make millions by targeting London with cannabis grown in houses rented from unsuspecting landlords

Tony Thompson
Sunday September 11, 2005
The Observer

Police in swaths of London are being 'overwhelmed' by Vietnamese gangs flooding the streets with high-strength, home-grown cannabis.

The gangs, who have also been linked to murders, people-smuggling and kidnapping, are making millions of pounds by renting houses from unsuspecting landlords and converting them into sophisticated cannabis farms.

Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur, head of the Metropolitan Police Specialist Crime Directorate, told The Observer the problem was now so significant that his officers were working closely with the Vietnamese authorities and community to stamp out the problem.

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'We have seen a growth in cannabis cultivation in recent times in London and we have experienced a tendency for this sort of crime to be committed by a number of communities, including small elements within the Vietnamese community,' he said.

In just one London court last week, five separate cases involving Vietnamese drugs gangs were being heard on the same day. One judge even complained he was having trouble telling the cases apart as he had dealt with so many in such a short time.

Last month, Hung Nguyen, 17, was convicted of running two cannabis factories. He told London's Blackfriars Crown Court that a gang had paid him £200 a week to mind the crop of 270 plants in two houses.

Joseph Brown, prosecuting, told the court police were being 'totally overwhelmed' by illegal Vietnamese immigrants growing cannabis in south-east London. The gangs are operating on such a massive scale that their crops have led to an explosion in the amount being seized.

Between April 2003 and March 2004, the Met recovered 468,364kg (103,000lb) of herbal cannabis, which includes plants grown and harvested. Between April 2004 and March 2005, its officers seized 1,009,487kg (222,600lb) - more than twice the amount of the previous year. Two-thirds of this was seized in the final six months. Already this year police have raided more than 250 cannabis factories across London, the majority of them run by Vietnamese gangs, and the trend shows no sign of slowing down.

Over the summer, police in the east London borough of Newham have been particularly active, closing down more than 100 factories including 14 in one day, yet they believe they have found only the tip of the iceberg.

A typical cannabis farm will contain up to 1,000 plants and generate profits of up to £500,000 for the gangsters each year.

One Vietnamese farming operation uncovered in south London recently used four houses, each of which was equipped with hi-tech growing equipment that yielded harvests of 40kg (88lb) of cannabis, worth £120,000, every six weeks.

The equipment alone was worth more than £20,000. Electricity to power the systems was being stolen from the national grid, and a sophisticated venting system ensured that the crops' distinctive odour passed through the roof of the house to prevent neighbours from being alerted.

Detectives fear the profits that can be made growing cannabis could lead to a turf war with other gangs. Last January, the body of a Vietnamese man called Khan Tho Nguyen (Nguyen is a common Vietnamese name) was found in a cannabis factory in Wembley, north London.

No one has been arrested for his murder and police do not yet know if he was killed by members of the gang behind the factory, or by others trying to steal the drugs.

Last year, Jermaine Fyves, a member of a south London yardie gang called the Alligator Crew, was jailed for life after shooting dead Vietnamese drug dealer Hoi Son Nguyen in a plot to steal a stash of cannabis that Nguyen had grown. Stabbings, kidnappings and attacks have also been linked to the gangs.

Although the Vietnamese gang problem is centred on London, police forces across the country, for example on Merseyside, say they have seen an identical trend in the growth of home cannabis production.

Senior officers believe the sharp rise is at least partly due to the decision to reclassify cannabis from a class B to a class C drug which led to an increase in demand.

Tighter border controls as a result of the terrorist threat have also made the domestic product more sought after. Gangs who grow cannabis make far higher profits now because they do not have to smuggle the drugs across borders.

The rise of Vietnamese gangs and their dominance of the cannabis growing industry is part of a global trend. Police in Sydney, Australia, have announced the formation of a South East Asian crime task force to tackle Vietnamese gangs after busting dozens of operations.





Believe it or not, A SON OF A VIETNAMESE DIPLOMAT even got a piece of action in this trade:

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A 'SIGNIFICANT BLOW'

Arrest of Queen Bee and Her Cronies Has Crippled Local Grow-Op, Drug Smuggling Ring

The day Ottawa's "Queen Bee" of drugs and dirty money rolled into court it seemed her case would never end.

Money laundering and grow-op ring leader Mai Le, her family members, criminal business associates and not a few bewildered-looking people who would later have their charges dropped, trundled one by one into court to stand in the prisoners' dock and get a bail date.

Almost 40 people had been arrested in Ottawa as police executed the final phase of an investigation dubbed Project Codi. In the U.S., the investigation was called Operation Candy Box.

Close to three years later, the bulk of the accused have been dealt with. For the most part, the Crown has made its case against its biggest targets -- without many of the cases even going to trial.

Le is on her way to Houston, to face U.S. charges following her guilty plea to Canadian offences on Monday.

Her alleged co-ringleader, Wong Ze Wai, a Chinese citizen arrested in Toronto, has pleaded guilty in a New York court to charges of conspiracy to commit money laundering, narcotics trafficking and participating in a continuing criminal enterprise.

In the early morning hours of March 31, 2004, local police, acting in concert with law enforcement agencies in Montreal, Toronto and the U.S., dealt a crippling blow to a crime ring that ran marijuana grow ops, ecstasy ( MDMA ) smuggling and cross-border money laundering. More than 140 arrests were made.

Purchased Homes

Le, a Vietnamese Canadian and member of Ottawa's business community, was said to be the "chief financial officer," of the criminal enterprise, orchestrating cross-border money laundering through a local business called MDN Currency Exchange and a series of travel agencies and other seemingly legitimate businesses. Her organization also financed and co-ordinated the purchase and operation of homes for grow ops.

Police say that often the buyers of the properties seemed to have little means of buying a house, much less coming up with a 25% downpayment. Often, the buyers would not be found on the premises when busts were made and would disavow any knowledge of what was being done by their "tenants."

Officials say one of the clues that led to the ring's demise was that many of those arrested previously in connection with grow ops listed Le's Little Italy-based business Vivi Fashions as an employer.

Meanwhile, in Toronto Wong Ze Wai was alleged to have been living illegally in Canada and running an ecstasy smuggling ring that made use of the Queen Bee's laundering services.

15% of Market

In January 2005, when Wong was extradited to the U.S., the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration estimated his ecstasy operation was responsible for 15% of their market. A release from the agency said prices had climbed 8% since the arrests.

In August 2003, three ecstasy labs were dismantled by Canadian police as part of the project.

The DEA says the investigation found Wong's organization could distribute up to a million ecstasy pills per month in the U.S. and Canada.

U.S. seizures in Operation Candy Box totalled 407,000 MDMA pills, 1,370 lbs. of marijuana, 6.5 lbs. of speed, and $8.9 million US in currency.

Wong's U.S. indictment says the proceeds of ecstasy sales would either be driven to Le's operation or would be wired to China and Vietnam and then back to Canada.

As Project Codi progressed, police intercepted a number of those shipments destined for laundering, putting Le in a tight situation of indebtedness to Wong. Police even discovered in a wiretapped phone call that indicated one of Le's associates was being detained by Wong's associates until appropriate arrangements could be made for repayment.

An undercover police officer established a relationship with Le on a flight from Hong Kong and arranged for her and the owner of a Montreal cheque-cashing business to launder more than $100,000.

One Canadian official familiar with the investigation in Ottawa said that while the plague of grow ops in the capital had not been cured, a "significant blow" had been dealt to the organization.

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THE PLAYERS

The Guilty:

Mai Le -- Pleaded guilty Jan. 29 to instructing others to launder crime profits and breach Canada's drug laws for a criminal organization. She also copped to evading $724,563 in taxes in 2003 by failing to declare more than $2.5 million in income. She's been taken to the U.S. to face prosecution there and is scheduled to return to Canada in September to set a sentencing date here.

Dinh Do -- Pleaded guilty Jan 20, 2006 to being a member of a criminal organization. Deported to Vietnam after serving a six-month sentence.

Minh Trieu Lam -- Pleaded guilty Oct. 5, 2006 to production of marijuana and tax evasion. Sentenced to four months of jail and forfeited $10,150.

Van Hai Le -- Pleaded guilty Dec. 11 to conspiracy to traffic marijuana, possession of the proceeds of crime and income tax evasion. Sentenced to two years less a day in jail for the conspiracy and six months concurrent for not reporting roughly $200,000 in revenue he made from a grow op. Charges against his wife were dropped.

Kien Huy Phung -- A Montreal cheque-cashing business owner pleaded guilty April 4, 2005 to money laundering and was sentenced to 16 months jail. Phung was allowed to keep $500,000 seized by police in a raid of his business. He was ordered to forfeit $4,000 paid by an undercover police officer as a money laundering fee. Charges were withdrawn against Phung's business partner Kheng Ly in exchange for Phung's guilty plea.

Maurice Chan -- Pleaded guilty to trafficking marijuana and breach of probation Feb 28, 2005. Sentenced to eight months jail.

Elias Sotizoboulos -- Pleaded guilty to possession for the purpose of trafficking in Montreal and sentenced to 18 months. Charges were withdrawn against two other men, Troy Hysko and Georges Gordoudakes who were charged with him.

Van Phuc Nguyen -- Pleaded guilty to production of a controlled substance. Sentenced to one day in jail plus six months of presentence custody.

Nhu Ban Dinh -- Pleaded guilty to possession for the purpose of trafficking. Sentenced to 160 days of pretrial custody and 12 months probation. He forfeited $200.

Tuan Van Nguyen -- Pleaded guilty to conspiracy 87 days pretrial custody, 10 months probation.

Van Hanh Nguyen -- Pleaded guilty Feb 23, 2005 to being a member of a criminal organization. Given five-year jail sentence and forfeited $10,920.

Khamsene Aphayavong -- Pleaded guilty Feb 9, 2005, to production of marijuana. Sentenced to 18-month conditional sentence plus 10 months probation with 75 hours of community service and a 10-year weapon prohibition. Currently seeking permission to appeal sentence.

Ngoc Hiep Pham -- Pleaded guilty April 8, 2005, to production of marijuana. Sentenced to 30 months jail, plus 10-year weapon prohibition.

Charges Withdrawn:

[redacted]

Charges Outstanding:

[redacted]

Extradited or Being Prosecuted in the U.S.:

[redacted], alegedly ran marijuana drug ring with his sister; [redacted], the son of a Vietnamese diplomat, [redacted] alegedly worked for [redacted] as a money laundering courier. He was committed for extradition June 16, 2005; [redacted], U.S. authorities allege this Chinese citizen, who was in Canada illegally, was the head of an ecstasy smuggling ring in Toronto and used Le's money laundering services.

Still Wanted:

[redacted]

Awaiting Sentence:

Former boyfriend and girlfriend Phuong Thi Le and Kiet Vuy Ly. Both are to be sentenced Monday after being found guilty of production of marijuana.



don't mean to go off topic but since we're talking about this here, I don't want to open another thread.
VietNhan
iam so mad i had to make an account to reply this thread... the answer is very simple!!!
because gai' mien tay.. as well as trai mien tay ... are dep hon mien khac!!! embarassedlaugh.gif
vay cung debate tum lum ...
thiet lo`ng ma noi' cung toi nghiep may' co gai' mien tay.. neu co the ai ma muon di bo que huong
xa xu*' dau ne`.. tai chi'nh phu VN ko tot het.. ko biet ta.o de^`u kien cho dan minh`.. de cho nguoi kh'ac
vo an hiep con gai' nuoc minh nhu vay do'.. neu ai co' long voi VN thi gang gioi di roi nua co' co hoi anh em minh`
ve lai VN de xay dung lai dat nuoc Au Lac cua chung minh heheheh

heh ko biet co' ai hoc hieu ko.. con ghe tui cu khen tui viet tieng Viet dzo hoai` heheh
jimm¥
^^ doc thi hieu , con hoc chac la ko icon_neutral.gif
chanoi
It happened again. What a shame Talktohand.gif

QUOTE
http://www.vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Xa-hoi/2007/04/3B9F555C/
Hàng chục cô gái thoát y để được lấy chồng ngoại


Thi Vĩnh Khương. Ảnh: A.X.
Gần 70 cô gái lần lượt cởi bỏ y phục dưới con mắt săm soi của hai người đàn ông Hàn Quốc với hy vọng được chọn làm vợ. Đường dây môi giới lấy chồng nước ngoài trái phép này vừa bị Công an TP HCM triệt phá trưa nay.

Tại căn nhà số 209B đường Vĩnh Viễn, quận 10, hàng chục cô gái chen chúc đứng chờ đến lượt "tŕnh diễn". Theo yêu cầu của 2 người đàn ông và một phụ nữ Hàn Quốc, các cô gái phải cởi bỏ quần áo, để họ xem xét dị tật, sẹo cũng như khả năng sinh nở trước khi đưa ra quyết định tuyển chọn cuối cùng.

Theo cơ quan điều tra, đường dây môi giới trái phép này do Thi Vĩnh Khương, 42 tuổi, Tân Phú, TP HCM, cầm đầu. 3 ngày trước, Khương thuê căn nhà này với giá 500 ngh́n đồng/ngày để tổ chức cho nhiều lượt khách "xem hàng".


Chủ nhà (b́a trái) và các cô gái muốn lấy chồng ngoại. Ảnh: A.X.

Kết quả điều tra ban đầu cho thấy, phần lớn các cô gái được chủ "tập kết" từ các tỉnh miền Tây về nuôi ăn ở và được hướng dẫn cấp tốc cách đi đứng, ứng xử sao cho vượt qua các đợt "sát hạch". Khi đàn ông Hàn Quốc xuất hiện, người môi giới lần lượt đưa từng tốp vài cô vào pḥng để "chú rể" duyệt.

Tại đây, các cô phải đi lại như tŕnh diễn thời trang để chú rể xem ngoại h́nh. Cô nào được "duyệt" mới chuyển sang phần thi "ứng xử", trả lời vài câu hỏi để chú rể t́m hiểu kỹ hơn.

Công tác khám xét và lấy lời khai vẫn đang được tiến hành.

Trước đó, ngày 13/4 tại nhà hàng Bảo Châu (đường B́nh Phú, quận 6, TP HCM), cũng diễn ra một cuộc xem mặt để lấy chồng Hàn Quốc rầm rộ với 109 thí sinh nữ.
vienanh
Trên thực tế, chỉ với nội dung bài báo này mà có thể nói đến toàn bộ con gái miền tây thực sự là không công bằng, ở đâu cũng vậy, tệ nạ và những mặt trái của xă hội luôn tồn tại. Hành động của những chủ chứa, những người môi giới đă tiếp tay cho những hành động bán rẻ nhân cách con người. Những nạn nhân là những cô gái có thể ít học không hiểu ḿnh đang bị phơi bày ra như một món hàng. Có thể họ được hứa hẹn một điều tốt đẹp hơn................
vienanh
So I think, in actually, which ressons have this girls do? bawling.gif
WoazieBabiK
actually, wat do u mean by dua doi`. They are poor, and they think marriage to other men rather Viets men would make their life a lot better.
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