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retardsrox
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can anyone post more pictures of her!!!!
Hitoro
she looks north vietnamese?
TrashCleaner
QUOTE(Hitoro @ Mar 31 2007, 10:19 PM) [snapback]2827755[/snapback]

she looks north vietnamese?


north vietnamese students:
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retardsrox
north vietnamese look like east asian

you know vietnam is culturally considered to be east asia
Kambojiya
^ who are u trying to convince? Vietnamese are considered South East Asian not East lol
retardsrox
QUOTE(Kambojiya @ Mar 31 2007, 12:57 PM) [snapback]2828170[/snapback]

^ who are u trying to convince? Vietnamese are considered South East Asian not East lol


I know vietnamese are southeast asians but i said that northen vietnamese look like east asians just like singapore is a southeast asian country but the main population there is chinese


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can people continue to post more pictures of her?
BlueAway
I think North Vietnam was conquered by China for a long time so there must have been a lot of intermixing as a result.

That is just my theory. I apologize if I am wrong. Please don't kill me.
ÉvaristeGalois
*kill*

but it makes sense...
BlueAway
I don't mean to rub it in or anything but I think Vietnam was ruled under China for almost 1000 years.

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In 208 BCE a Qin Dynasty general named Triệu Đà established a state called Nam Việt which encompassed southern China and the Red River Delta. The historical significance of the original Nam Việt remains controversial because some historians consider it a Chinese occupation while others believe it was an independent era. For most of the period from 111 BC to the early 10th century AD, Vietnam was under the rule of successive Chinese dynasties. Sporadic independence movements were attempted, but were quickly suppressed by Chinese forces.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam

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BlueAway
sorry double post
theRooster
QUOTE(TrashCleaner @ Mar 31 2007, 08:32 AM) [snapback]2827790[/snapback]

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I thought Vietnam is hot all year long? Why are those people dressing so warm?
yaburihong
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real history map for 3000 years
SoCal
QUOTE(BlueAway @ Apr 1 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]2830193[/snapback]

I don't mean to rub it in or anything but I think Vietnam was ruled under China for almost 1000 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam

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Blue Away:

Although Vietnam was under Chinese' rule for 1000 years, Vietnam fought and gained the independence in the tenth century (938 A.D.). From 10th century to 19th century, in a span of 900 years, a distinct Vietnamese culture flourish and blossom into what it is today. icon_smile.gif

After gaining the independence, due to the constant threat of China in the North, Vietnamese people learned to adapt themselves and expanded southward at least 5 times its size than what it was before.

Vietnam Southward Expansion

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yaburihong
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picture is Actuality location of . Han,s 4 county
Chinese solitude was not found in Korean peninsula

han-dynasty never position in korea peninsula
becoz kojosun Was situated in lao dung peninsula

http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/culture/culture...ral/199655.html
BlueAway
QUOTE(SoCal @ Apr 1 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]2830225[/snapback]

Blue Away:

Although Vietnam was under Chinese' rule for 1000 years, Vietnam fought and gained the independence in the tenth century (938 A.D.). From 10th century to 19th century, in a span of 900 years, a distinct Vietnamese culture flourish and blossom into what it is today. icon_smile.gif

After gaining the independence, due to the constant threat of China in the North, Vietnamese people learned to adapt themselves and expanded southward at least 5 times its size than what it was before.

Vietnam Southward Expansion



I see. That is very interesting. So the original Vietnamese people were the ones in the north? They later expanded and conquered the peoples of southern Vietnam? That's very cool. It's very similiar to Han Chinese expansion to southern China.

During those 1000 years of chinese rule, was there lots of intermixing between Chinese and Vietnamese? I imagine the chinese who came to Vietnam were mostly soldiers and they didn't bring their women along so.......icon_smile.gif

QUOTE(yaburihong @ Apr 1 2007, 12:22 PM) [snapback]2830236[/snapback]

picture is Actuality location of . Han,s 4 county
Chinese solitude was not found in Korean peninsula

han-dynasty never position in korea peninsula
becoz kojosun Was situated in lao dung peninsula

http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/culture/culture...ral/199655.html


I'm sorry. I have a hard time understanding your english and I can't read Korean. But anyway, parts of Korea was brought under Chinese rule for at least 100 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Commanderies_of_Han

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lelang_Commandery

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Massive Chinese immigrations, mainly from Yan (Hebei) and Qi (Shandong), continued without cessation, implanting Chinese cultures in the peninsula. The Yan people came from the Yan area, around what is now Beijing, via Liaodong and the Qi people came across the Yellow Sea. Among them, the Wang clan, whose ancestor is said to have fled there from Qi in the 2nd century B.C., became powerful. It is presumed that most of Lelang Chinese spoke the Yan dialect.
Hitoro
http://www.gxtravel.com/ImageDB%2F2002%2F1...D1%DD%D7%E0.jpg

vietnamese culture. (hanoi)
yaburihong
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chinese did data uploading laugh.gif
BlueAway
QUOTE(yaburihong @ Apr 1 2007, 12:32 PM) [snapback]2830262[/snapback]

wikipedia laugh.gif laugh.gif
chinese did data uploading laugh.gif


haha, chinese did the data uploading? Really? icon_smile.gif

The references you pointed out were from a korean website. So koreans did the data uploading there as well. icon_smile.gif
yaburihong
koguryo rules for 1000 years in machuria..
mongol rule for 100years whole china
machurian rule for 200 years " biggrin.gif
BlueAway
QUOTE(yaburihong @ Apr 1 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]2830266[/snapback]

koguryo rules for 1000 years in machuria..
mongol rule for 100years whole china
machurian rule for 200 years " biggrin.gif


Koguryo people were not Korean. They were not Chinese either. Nobody knows what language they spoke.

Also, yes, mongols and manchus ruled china for 300 years. But chinese have 5000 year history. 300/5000 is nothing.
Hitoro
For Retardsrox

heres something that not only shows the real culture of Vietnam but Also mai phoung thuy!! ( man this video is perfect for this thread!!!)

vietnam culture is North meets South and then met west



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XvZHCy8o2w
yaburihong
QUOTE(BlueAway @ Apr 1 2007, 11:37 AM) [snapback]2830274[/snapback]

Koguryo people were not Korean. They were not Chinese either. Nobody knows what language they spoke.

Also, yes, mongols and manchus ruled china for 300 years. But chinese have 5000 year history. 300/5000 is nothing.

laugh.gif kogurian not korean.so then they came from Galactic system?? laugh.gif
so all know korea name from goryo <-- goryo name<-- from gokuryo
Goguryeo is no any0.0001% relation with China biggrin.gif



manchuria province and inner mongol province It was territory that there is no relation with China 60 years ago only

oh i forgot tibet and east turk icon_smile.gif
BlueAway
QUOTE(yaburihong @ Apr 1 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]2830290[/snapback]

laugh.gif kogurian not korean.so then they came from Galactic system?? laugh.gif
so all know korea name from goryo <-- goryo name<-- from gokuryo
Goguryeo is no any0.0001% relation with China biggrin.gif
manchuria province and inner mongol province It was territory that there is no relation with China 100 years ago only


Qing Dynasty

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Hitoro
i wonder if korea had the problem of hans starting wars then claiming land.

like example vietnam today is not like the vietnam of the past, believe it or not but the canton area of china (guanzhou, hongkong) use to be of vietnamese territory then through the sugcessfull processes of assimulation it became a part of china, however i still feel that theses canton people urn to be separte from mainland in secretcy of course.

dose korea has any lands that us to be theirs but now of china?
yaburihong
QUOTE(BlueAway @ Apr 1 2007, 11:45 AM) [snapback]2830306[/snapback]

Qing Dynasty

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yes they are great manchurian not ,,never nor nie, nicht . han-chinese icon_smile.gif
BlueAway
QUOTE(yaburihong @ Apr 1 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]2830311[/snapback]

yes they are great manchurian not ,,never nor nie han-chinese icon_smile.gif


Manchus only 2% of chinese population. Most of the Qing government were Han Chinese. Only emperor and his aides were manchurian. Manchus became very lazy because they received full subsidies. Also, manchus adopted chinese culture and became Sinicized.

Manchus have nothing to do with Koreans.
SoCal
QUOTE(BlueAway @ Apr 1 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]2830245[/snapback]

I see. That is very interesting. So the original Vietnamese people were the ones in the north? They later expanded and conquered the peoples of southern Vietnam? That's very cool. It's very similiar to Han Chinese expansion to southern China.

During those 1000 years of chinese rule, was there lots of intermixing between Chinese and Vietnamese? I imagine the chinese who came to Vietnam were mostly soldiers and they didn't bring their women along so.......icon_smile.gif
I'm sorry. I have a hard time understanding your english and I can't read Korean. But anyway, parts of Korea was brought under Chinese rule for at least 100 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Commanderies_of_Han

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lelang_Commandery


Blue Away, Everyone icon_smile.gif

Looking at the map below, around this time at the beginning of Vietnam's newly indenpendence, Vietnam was surrounded by major Super Powers such as the Song Dynasty (960 to 1279 A.D.) in the North, Burma Empire (Pagan Kingdom (849-1287)) in the West, the Khmer Empire (AD802 - AD1432) in the South West and one emerging similar neighbor called Champa in the Eastern Coast. Around this time, Guangdong Province and Guangxi Province, have already been Sinicized and their cultural heritage have been absorved by the Chinese. Due to the Vietnamese people's courage and their love for their own independence, they were able to survive and thrived in this difficult beginning environment.

By the way, before Viet Nam were called Viet Nam, Viet Nam was called Dai Viet from the 10th century to the 19th century. Dai Viet means Great Viet.

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yaburihong
QUOTE(BlueAway @ Apr 1 2007, 11:50 AM) [snapback]2830315[/snapback]

Manchus only 2% of chinese population. Most of the Qing government were Han Chinese. Only emperor and his aides were manchurian. Manchus became very lazy because they received full subsidies. Also, manchus adopted chinese culture and became Sinicized.

Manchus have nothing to do with Koreans.


Manchus have nothing to do with Koreans.
so then manchurian too have nothing to do with chinese,,
only they melt
BlueAway
QUOTE(Hitoro @ Apr 1 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]2830308[/snapback]

i wonder if korea had the problem of hans starting wars then claiming land.

like example vietnam today is not like the vietnam of the past, believe it or not but the canton area of china (guanzhou, hongkong) use to be of vietnamese territory then through the sugcessfull processes of assimulation it became a part of china, however i still feel that theses canton people urn to be separte from mainland in secretcy of course.

dose korea has any lands that us to be theirs but now of china?


Vietnam extended their rule to Guangzhou and HK? Wow, that is absurd. I think before Han Chinese expansion, maybe ppl in guangzhou, guizhou and vietnam were similiar people. But then Han Chinese expansion to these areas changed the genetic and cultural makeup of these peoples.

QUOTE(SoCal @ Apr 1 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]2830317[/snapback]

Blue Away, Everyone icon_smile.gif

The Song Dynasty in China was from 960 to 1279 A.D. Looking at the map below, around this time at the beginning of Vietnam's newly indenpendence, Vietnam was surrounded by major Super Powers such as the Song Dynasty in the North, Burma in the West, the Khmer Empire in the South West and one emerging similar neighbor called Champa in the Eastern Coast. Around this time, Guangdong Province and Guangxi Province, have already been Sinicized and their cultural heritage have been absorved by the Chinese. Due to the Vietnamese people's courage and their love for their own independence, they were able to survive and thrived in this difficult beginning environment.

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Very admirable. But I am also glad that Vietnamese do not deny that they were under Chinese rule for a long time unlike the Koreans. icon_smile.gif

QUOTE(yaburihong @ Apr 1 2007, 12:52 PM) [snapback]2830323[/snapback]

Manchus have nothing to do with Koreans.
so then manchurian too have nothing to do with chinese,,
only they melt


Manchurian's ancestors were the Jurchens. Jurchen tribes have interacted with Han Chinese for hundreds of years. The Manchurians were already sinicized greatly before they rule China. Their knowledge of chinese culture help them rule China greatly. Manchuria already have lots of Han Chinese population before Manchu rule.
SoCal
QUOTE(BlueAway @ Apr 1 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]2830329[/snapback]

Vietnam extended their rule to Guangzhou and HK? Wow, that is absurd. I think before Han Chinese expansion, maybe ppl in guangzhou, guizhou and vietnam were similiar people. But then Han Chinese expansion to these areas changed the genetic and cultural makeup of these peoples.
Very admirable. But I am also glad that Vietnamese do not deny that they were under Chinese rule for a long time unlike the Koreans. icon_smile.gif


Blue Away, All icon_smile.gif

Both Chinese culture in the North and Indian Culture in the West have contributed significantly to the cultural heritage of the mainland Southeast Asia.

Indian culture influences more in the countries of Burma, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia; while Chinese culture influences more in Vietnam.

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yaburihong
yes manchurian exist as master
chinese too Recognize it icon_smile.gif
BlueAway
QUOTE(yaburihong @ Apr 1 2007, 01:02 PM) [snapback]2830343[/snapback]

yes manchurian exist as master
chinese too Recognize it icon_smile.gif


manchurians only good at warfare. Thats how they conquered China. But they recognize superior Chinese culture and that is why they chose to sinicize themselves. Today, Manchurians are Han Chinese. icon_smile.gif
SoCal
Guys icon_smile.gif

This thread is about Ms. Mai Phuong Thuy. We need to see more pictures of her beauty.

She has a kind and compassionate heart and is willing to help unfortunate people. icon_smile.gif

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yaburihong
embarassedlaugh.gif manchurian changed as han chinese embarassedlaugh.gif
ok manchurian to be han chinese lol3.gif laugh.gif

socal thuy how old ? do thuy have bf?? icon_twisted.gif
SoCal
QUOTE(yaburihong @ Apr 1 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]2830354[/snapback]

embarassedlaugh.gif manchurian changed as han chinese embarassedlaugh.gif
ok manchurian to be han chinese lol3.gif laugh.gif

socal thuy how old ? do thuy have bf?? icon_twisted.gif


Yaburihong icon_smile.gif

I think she has a boyfriend. She was born in 1988. icon_smile.gif
yaburihong
QUOTE(SoCal @ Apr 1 2007, 12:12 PM) [snapback]2830371[/snapback]

Yaburihong icon_smile.gif

I think she has a boyfriend. She was born in 1988. icon_smile.gif

icon_neutral.gif yes i think so do,, he is so lucky guy
the beauty always has bf icon_redface.gif so young
SoCal
QUOTE(yaburihong @ Apr 1 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]2830382[/snapback]

icon_neutral.gif yes i think so do,, he is so lucky guy
the beauty always has bf icon_redface.gif so young


Sir Yaburihong icon_smile.gif

Vietnam will become a middle-income country by 2010 and an industrialized nation by 2020. Due to this, many more Vietnamese people, especially Vietnamese women, will have many more opportunities to maximize their potentials like Ms. Mai Phuong Thuy. Vietnamese women have contributed greatly to Vietnam's industriousness and prosperity. icon_smile.gif
BlueAway
QUOTE(SoCal @ Apr 1 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]2830398[/snapback]

Sir Yaburihong icon_smile.gif

Vietnam will become a middle-income country by 2010 and an industrialized nation by 2020. Due to this, many more Vietnamese people, especially Vietnamese women, will have many more opportunities to maximize their potentials like Ms. Mai Phuong Thuy. Vietnamese women have contributed greatly to Vietnam's industriousness and prosperity. icon_smile.gif


Yes I agree. Vietnam indeed has a bright future. I think China and Vietnam should cooperate together to prosper. icon_smile.gif
yaburihong
I agree perfectly in your opinion
Vietnam may become the industry country by quickly certainly
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SoCal
QUOTE(BlueAway @ Apr 1 2007, 10:27 AM) [snapback]2830405[/snapback]

Yes I agree. Vietnam indeed has a bright future. I think China and Vietnam should cooperate together to prosper. icon_smile.gif


Sir Blue Away, Sir Yaburihong icon_smile.gif

I believe strongly prosperity and peace will come to the people of Southeast Asia and East Asia in the 21st century. If we can work together and help each other, many impossible dreams are possible.
BlueAway
QUOTE(SoCal @ Apr 1 2007, 01:33 PM) [snapback]2830413[/snapback]

Sir Blue Away, Sir Yaburihong icon_smile.gif

I believe strongly prosperity and peace will come to the people of Southeast Asia and East Asia in the 21st century. If we can work together and help each other, many impossible dreams are possible.


I don't think China and Korea can get along. But China and Vietnam can prosper together. icon_smile.gif
yaburihong
i hope so socal except xxxxx icon_smile.gif
BlueAway
QUOTE(yaburihong @ Apr 1 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]2830436[/snapback]

i hope so socal except xxxxx icon_smile.gif


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SoCal
Okay,

Sir Blue Away, you represent China

Sir Yaburihong, you represent Korea

and in my humble self, if people in here don't mind,

I can represent Vietnam.

Three of us learn how to get along on here

and it represent a great and wonderful cooperation

among China, Korea, and Vietnam.

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At least, that's what we can do, right? icon_smile.gif
02tonyl
QUOTE(theRooster @ Apr 1 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]2830202[/snapback]

I thought Vietnam is hot all year long? Why are those people dressing so warm?


North Vietnam is a cold place
South Vietnam is a temperate place
Hope that helps icon_smile.gif

Have a good day
SoCal
Dao Lieu

A video tribute of the beauty of Vietnamese women from North, Central, and South. icon_smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA3tNnhKTLc
02tonyl
QUOTE(SoCal @ Apr 1 2007, 12:23 PM) [snapback]2830398[/snapback]

Sir Yaburihong icon_smile.gif

Vietnam will become a middle-income country by 2010 and an industrialized nation by 2020. Due to this, many more Vietnamese people, especially Vietnamese women, will have many more opportunities to maximize their potentials like Ms. Mai Phuong Thuy. Vietnamese women have contributed greatly to Vietnam's industriousness and prosperity. icon_smile.gif



Hello Socal

Can u plz provide some sources plz plz icon_smile.gif i really wanna read about vietnamese economy
Btw , how much GDP per capita does a country need to have in order to become a middle income country ?

Thank you

Have a good day
SoCal
QUOTE(02tonyl @ Apr 1 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]2830458[/snapback]

Hello Socal

Can u plz provide some sources plz plz icon_smile.gif i really wanna read about vietnamese economy
Btw , how much GDP per capita does a country need to have in order to become a middle income country ?

Thank you

Have a good day


Sir Tony icon_smile.gif

You are so courteous and thank for that. icon_smile.gif

To become a middle-income country, Vietnam needs to obtain at least $1000 Nominal GDP Per Capita by 2010. That is the first challenge and obstacle for Vietnam to overcome. From 2010 to 2020, the second obstacle for Vietnam to overcome is to reach the industrialized nation which has a Nominal GDP Per Capita between $5000 and $10000 (this is my personal opinion). This is not an easy goal to achieve. Take a look at Philippines and Indonensia, and also Thailand, they are currently in the middle-income status but they seem to get stuck there, while Malaysia is almost reaching the industrialized nation status.

Current Nominal GDP Per Capita of some Southeast Asian countries

Malaysia $5,042

Thailand $2,659

Indonesia $1,283
Philippines $1,168

Vietnam $720

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http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2007/03/gill.htm

"This line of reasoning suggests that East Asian middle-income countries must update their strategies. What permits countries to grow fast from a per capita income of $1,000 to $10,000—the current challenge for most East Asian countries—is different and more difficult than what helped them grow from a per capita income of $100 to $1,000—the challenge they successfully faced in the past."


http://investintaiwan.nat.gov.tw/en/...apita_gdp.html

http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/fs/viet.pdf

Historical GDP Per Capita of Vietnam

1990, $98
1991, $113
1992, $143
1993, $187
1994, $227
1995, $283
1996, $332
1997, $356
1998, $355
1999, $370
2000, $396
2001, $413
2002, $440
2003, $489
2004, $553
2005, $640
2006, $720
2007, $820 (Expected)

Approximate Estimation of GDP Per Capita for Vietnam (10% annual growth)

2000, $400
2005, $644
2010, $1037 (CB Richard Ellis predicts it may reach $1100)
2015, $1670
2020, $2690
2025, $4333
2030, $6979
2035, $11240
2040, $18103
2045, $29156
2050, $46956

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CB Richard Ellis - Vietnam 2007 Report

http://www.cbrevietnam.com/Why%20Vietnam%20_2007_.pdf
02tonyl
QUOTE(SoCal @ Apr 1 2007, 01:04 PM) [snapback]2830480[/snapback]

Sir Tony icon_smile.gif

You are so courteous and thank for that. icon_smile.gif

To become a middle-income country, Vietnam needs to obtain at least $1000 Nominal GDP Per Capita by 2010. That is the first challenge and obstacle for Vietnam to overcome. From 2010 to 2020, the second obstacle for Vietnam to overcome is to reach the industrialized nation which has a Nominal GDP Per Capita between $5000 and $10000 (this is my personal opinion). This is not an easy goal to achieve. Take a look at Philippines and Indonensia, and also Thailand, they are currently in the middle-income status but they seem to get stuck there, while Malaysia is almost reaching the industrialized nation status.

Current Nominal GDP Per Capita of some Southeast Asian countries

Malaysia $5,042

Thailand $2,659

Indonesia $1,283
Philippines $1,168

Vietnam $720

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http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2007/03/gill.htm

"This line of reasoning suggests that East Asian middle-income countries must update their strategies. What permits countries to grow fast from a per capita income of $1,000 to $10,000—the current challenge for most East Asian countries—is different and more difficult than what helped them grow from a per capita income of $100 to $1,000—the challenge they successfully faced in the past."
http://investintaiwan.nat.gov.tw/en/...apita_gdp.html

http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/fs/viet.pdf

Historical GDP Per Capita of Vietnam

1990, $98
1991, $113
1992, $143
1993, $187
1994, $227
1995, $283
1996, $332
1997, $356
1998, $355
1999, $370
2000, $396
2001, $413
2002, $440
2003, $489
2004, $553
2005, $640
2006, $720
2007, $820 (Expected)

Approximate Estimation of GDP Per Capita for Vietnam (10% annual growth)

2000, $400
2005, $644
2010, $1037 (CB Richard Ellis predicts it may reach $1100)
2015, $1670
2020, $2690
2025, $4333
2030, $6979
2035, $11240
2040, $18103
2045, $29156
2050, $46956

__________________________________________

CB Richard Ellis - Vietnam 2007 Report

http://www.cbrevietnam.com/Why%20Vietnam%20_2007_.pdf



Thank you very much for these useful information

Have a good day biggthumpup.gif
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