QUOTE(Hitoro @ Apr 1 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]2830308[/snapback]
i wonder if korea had the problem of hans starting wars then claiming land.
like example vietnam today is not like the vietnam of the past, believe it or not but the canton area of china (guanzhou, hongkong) use to be of vietnamese territory then through the sugcessfull processes of assimulation it became a part of china, however i still feel that theses canton people urn to be separte from mainland in secretcy of course.
dose korea has any lands that us to be theirs but now of china?
Vietnam extended their rule to Guangzhou and HK? Wow, that is absurd. I think before Han Chinese expansion, maybe ppl in guangzhou, guizhou and vietnam were similiar people. But then Han Chinese expansion to these areas changed the genetic and cultural makeup of these peoples.
QUOTE(SoCal @ Apr 1 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]2830317[/snapback]
Blue Away, Everyone

The Song Dynasty in China was from 960 to 1279 A.D. Looking at the map below, around this time at the beginning of Vietnam's newly indenpendence, Vietnam was surrounded by major Super Powers such as the Song Dynasty in the North, Burma in the West, the Khmer Empire in the South West and one emerging similar neighbor called Champa in the Eastern Coast. Around this time, Guangdong Province and Guangxi Province, have already been Sinicized and their cultural heritage have been absorved by the Chinese. Due to the Vietnamese people's courage and their love for their own independence, they were able to survive and thrived in this difficult beginning environment.

Very admirable. But I am also glad that Vietnamese do not deny that they were under Chinese rule for a long time unlike the Koreans.

QUOTE(yaburihong @ Apr 1 2007, 12:52 PM) [snapback]2830323[/snapback]
Manchus have nothing to do with Koreans.
so then manchurian too have nothing to do with chinese,,
only they melt
Manchurian's ancestors were the Jurchens. Jurchen tribes have interacted with Han Chinese for hundreds of years. The Manchurians were already sinicized greatly before they rule China. Their knowledge of chinese culture help them rule China greatly. Manchuria already have lots of Han Chinese population before Manchu rule.