Read this for huge assistance Japan has given to Vietnam many many times with money and is one of Vietnam's largest supporter to get into the WTO.

http://www.vnagency.com.vn/newsA.asp?LANGU...&NEWS_ID=107077

and

http://www.vnagency.com.vn/newsA.asp?LANGU...&NEWS_ID=107099

Vietnam and China have just signed an 11 point partnership for stability,economical and prosperous relations in the Asia-pacific.

Ok Japan has been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too nice to Vietnam lately ever since embargoes were lifted. They've been doing all this "charity" work and pumping billions into our economy and now signing partnerships treaties.

I really doubt the Japanese are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They must know something we don't. Why do you think they are doing this?

HELL Vietnam now lets Japanese enter the country and stay for 15 days without a Visa.

There is something up with the governements of Vietnam and Japan. Something smells fishy.

Japan wants to counter rising Chinese influence in the South East Asia region.

Yeah but China is trying to appeal to Cambodia and other countries in SEA. While Japan is trying to win Vietnam over to their side. Too bad for China, that Cambodia and Laos only does what Vietnam says. China would be better off trying to woo Vietnam for mainland SEA rather than Cambodia or Laos, since Vietnam controls those countries as well as Vietnam's strategic location makes it the gate to South East Asia. Japan is playing it smart by helping only Vietnam, they are really gaining a lot of SEA.

China wants to counterbalance Vietnamese hegemony in South East Asia. Unfortunately Cambodia and Laos combined has only 1/6 of Vietnam's population and 1/8 or less of Vietnam's economy. Thailand would be the best bet, unfortunately Thailand doesn't want to be a partner of China.

China should further improve its relationship with Thailand to counter this Japan-Vietnam axis.


In case you haven't been keeping up with your news, the relationship between China and Thailand are actually quite good.

Yeah but you see, Thailand is far far away from other SEA.

Vietnam is better strategically since it borders China, Laos, and Cambodia and Malaysia,Singapore, and those island SEA countries are very close to Vietnam and can be reached easily by boat from Vietnam since Vietnam is a coastal country.

Why do you think the U.S picked Vietnam to save it from "communism"? Because Vietnam is the gateway to SEA, if the U.S can stop it in Vietnam, than it can't spread as easily to other SEA, since Vietnam is basically the middle stop to the rest of SEA.

Hell even India wants an alliance with Vietnam so it can spread their influence much more easier to SEA. Vietnam's location is much more strategic than Thailand.

In case you don't know, let me try to open your thick brain.

Yes Thailand is enjoying good relations with Vietnam. However, it has the same fear as Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia that China will try to wield influence over it militarily and economically. The Thais are very cautious in this respect.

Singapore is very cautious of China as well. The Singaporeans are co-operating and investing in Myanmar to counter China's influence and China's attempt to get a foot in the SE Asia door.

You simply can't have a serious discussion without flaming

No not with you flame bait

Well Japan is export dependant and after China decided not to sell anymore oil to Japan(due to China's own energy needs) I guess Vietnam which is becoming an import oil exporter with oil being it's 2nd biggest export, would really help the Japanese. Not to mention Vietnam is the world's 2nd biggest rice exporter(which would make Vietnam a valuable ally to Japan) which will provide the Japanese with lots of food since they are export dependant.

Vietnam has 600 million barrels of proven oil reserves, and further discoveries are likely. Crude oil production averaged 352,507 barrels per day (bbl/d) in 2003. The country has six operating oil fields, of which Bach Ho (White Tiger), Rang Dong (Dawn), Hang Ngoc, and Dai Hung (Big Bear) are the largest. Most oil exploration and production activities occur offshore in the Cuu Long and Nam Con Son Basin. Vietnam currently has no operating oil refineries - therefore a large portion of its oil production is exported. Export markets include Japan (the largest importer of Vietnamese oil), Singapore, the United States, and South Korea. Vietnam had net exports of an estimated 150,507 bbl/d of oil in 2003.

This compares to Saudi Arabia's 260 billion barrels is not exactly alot.

Like I said save them for a rainy day, when oil becomes urgent, like if the middle east runs out then we can sell ours for a really high price. Of course there is some risk of oil not being used anymore and hydrogen is used instead making our oil prices go down. lol

Well let's just say oil won't play a significant part in the Vietnamese economy in the future in term of earning revenue from selling it to other countries. If our economy keeps growing like this, we might end up being a net importer of oil.

I believe Thailand is part of ASEAN.

Stupid Vietnam and China, both commies b!tchin' states. They both suck, Hong Kong forever!

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contrary to what you may or may not have been taught, communism isn't bad.
and why would you say that China sucks yet Hong Kong is a part of it?

Communism? No China or Vietnam practice true Communism. China's and Vietnam economies would fail horribly if it adhered to Karl Marx's bull$hit.

Hong Kong is administrated and part of Chinese territory but still retains its own government, flag, currency, capitalist environment, citizenship, democracy, etc...

Hong Kong will enjoy a high degree of autonomy in all matters except foreign and military defense affairs . :genius:

And why are Hong Kong people are holding massive protests? Once you've lost your autonomy, you'll understand.

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That's a good way to put it, Nam Quoc Son Ha

They are holding protest because China ruled out direct elections in 2007.

Well let's just hope you guys can hold onto whatever freedom you have

I wish them well also

you people so know that there are technology that can turn coal to oil.................................................

coal liquefaction.....................................places like china has many coal, but little oil, and oil demand is increasing every year, as a result China spend alot of money importing oil.

With coal liquefaction, it will take a big rock off china's back, since CHINA has alot of coal, so hopefully taking this technology will help ease the demand of CHINA's oil demand.

IF i am correct, its not that exepensive, but of course it should cost more. How much i dont know. :genius:

but liquifying coal doesn't make oil, does it?

"if" i am correct, it doesnt make 100% oil, but its makes the molecules that we need from oil. So basically we got what we need from oil already.

But it would cost money to extract oil, then liquefactioning it, which probably costs more than importing oil. I don't know.

I will have to give my opinion on this later. However I want to see if any other opinions come out.

well here is the question.

what will you prefer?

Be dependent on yourself "or" dependent on others?

Well i think the process will not cost that much, or else i doubt we will bother to import such technology.

Well giving a few more cents, is definetely worth it. But i agree, i dont have the info on the price yet, so hopefuly it will be cheaper, than it will be a one stone two birds. .

Well as for natural gas, CHINA is trying to increasing its natural gas usage up to 8%. Which is still VERY LOW, which the developed nations is atleast 20 something percent, which is not that high neither, so in the long run oil will still play a large part of the energy area. Well there is still a long road in the future, new technology or new energy could be invented or discovered. So no one can really predict the future.

I think Japan is trying to counter South Korea more so than China, both politically & economically speaking.

Politically, economically and militarily Japan has nothing to fear of South Korea. The real potential enemy is China. Japan is trying to counter China's rising influence in the Asia-Pacific region.

WHAT??

China has 29.5 Billion Barrels of Oil,

10th Greatest Oil Reserve!

China has More Proved Oil reserves than United States!

So what? The US still has to import most of its oil.

thank you.

CHina is a developing nation, its growing rapidly, its demand of oil and many other resources are huge. Its population its like 3-4 times the size of US.