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Creme Femme
Check out these results for the International Mathematics Olympiad from 1995-2004!
http://imo.math.ca/results/CRBY.html biggthumpup.gif
supernovasp
Are you Vietnamese ?

well anyway Vietnam is hosting the competition this year.
lilDuc
yeah ure right we're all good at maths and hell yeah :]
landsknechts
We have not done well in the past 2 years. You guys can see the rest here
http://www.imo.org.yu/index.php?options=gl...mp;p=me4kidf393
Creme Femme
QUOTE(landsknechts @ Mar 27 2007, 10:19 PM) [snapback]2820742[/snapback]

We have not done well in the past 2 years. You guys can see the rest here
http://www.imo.org.yu/index.php?options=gl...mp;p=me4kidf393

We ranked 15 out of 91 in 2005 and 13 out of 90 in 2006. That's still well by me.

Here are the results for Vietnam from 1974 to 2006.
http://www.imo.org.yu/index.php?options=gl...mp;p=me4kidf393
Tav6
all we need to do now is train these students to be engineers and such
nfacblade
Here is my average calculation of the ranking from 1995 to 2004. VN comes in 5th place ahead of Korea, Japan, and India but behind China, USA, and Russia. We have many people in technical and engineering fields in the US. Maybe these people can help VN to develop better. BTW, we've also done well in Physics Olympiad. This year's programming contest, VN got into the final but ranked 44 which is a tie with Indian Institute of Technology (IIT). This is not bad given India's prowess on software programming.

Top 20

Country 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996 1995 Average Rank
China 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 6 1 2 1
Russia 3 5 2 2 2 1 6 4 4 3 3 2
U.S.A. 2 3 3 2 3 10 3 4 2 11 4 3
Bulgaria 5 1 4 4 5 5 2 7 11 6 5 4
Vietnam 4 4 5 10 5 3 9 10 7 4 6 5
Romania 10 7 8 15 11 4 11 7 1 2 8 6
South Korea 12 6 6 4 4 7 12 11 8 7 8 7
Hungary 7 10 12 21 9 11 3 2 3 5 8 8
Iran 9 18 11 18 10 8 1 3 9 8 10 9
Taiwan 6 16 7 9 8 9 5 14 20 12 11 10
Japan 8 9 16 13 15 13 14 12 11 9 12 11
India 14 15 9 7 14 18 7 15 14 14 13 12
Ukraine 11 14 20 8 13 12 8 6 18 23 13 13
Belarus 13 19 14 12 7 6 19 17 21 26 15 14
Germany 25 17 10 14 20 17 16 13 10 15 16 15
United Kingdom 20 10 27 31 22 20 17 16 5 10 18 16
Israel 15 21 18 17 11 25 24 22 15 13 18 17
Turkey 32 8 14 11 18 16 17 25 19 25 19 18
Poland 16 22 21 19 32 19 21 20 13 16 20 19

Bottom 20

Country 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996 1995 Average Rank
Albania 55 70 70 72 75 66 71 67 68 72
Kyrgyzstan 52 49 75 79 76 76 69 75 67 65 68 73
Chile 66 71 70 69 74
Luxembourg 71 69 79 80 53 71 65 70 75
Tunisia 75 72 59 74 70 76
Uruguay 67 65 84 77 70 72 70 69 72 77
Venezuela 80 78 52 49 79 80 75 81 72 78
Portugal 77 73 78 78 72 70 72 71 63 67 72 79
Sri Lanka 74 81 77 71 72 81 74 53 71 73 80
Philippines 79 79 74 75 70 73 70 73 74 65 73 81
Bolivia 74 74 82
Puerto Rico 69 70 75 81 76 74 83
Guatemala 81 76 79 75 79 78 84
Kuwait 84 80 83 81 78 78 76 76 75 73 78 85
Paraguay 82 82 80 82 72 76 79 86
Ecuador 81 77 82 83 74 79 87
Brunei 81 81 88
Mozambique 82 82 89
Algeria 82 82 90
Saudi Arabia 85 85 91

TheaterOfPain
Vietnam does better than Korea yet.....
JuMong
LOL, Korea is slacking off.

Vietnam is very good.
supernovasp
We need to improve our Chemistry and Physics program.

More money for labs please! beerchug.gif
TrashCleaner
Good that we do well in international math competitions. but it is only theory. we are very bad at practice.

i know it because i was in math class in high school. Math lessons were all theory and problems. The time for maths is like...tripple every other subject.

It is very scary sitting through the test every week. You are given 2 questions to do for the entire 3 hours.
The mark you got rarely above 5/10. But in the end of the term, everyone's mark is scaled up to be same with other classes in the school.

From my class before:
nearly all members of the class have won prizes in various competitions in city and national level.
about 10 people go on to study overseas (including me).
3 people won scholarship to study (mainly due to English ability).
2 people finishing university level early and are admitted to do PHD at world top universities.
5 to 10 people took the top positions in some kinds of engineering exam in vietnam.
1 person was in the team winning the "Tri Tue Viet Nam" competition.

We also know math classes from other schools as well.


To be honest, the math problems given in the International Olympiad is not difficult compared to what we are given every week to do. The main problem is how to read, understand & present the solution in English.
tdk614
QUOTE(TrashCleaner @ Apr 1 2007, 05:21 AM) [snapback]2829907[/snapback]

Good that we do well in international math competitions. but it is only theory. we are very bad at practice.

i know it because i was in math class in high school. Math lessons were all theory and problems. The time for maths is like...tripple every other subject.

It is very scary sitting through the test every week. You are given 2 questions to do for the entire 3 hours.
The mark you got rarely above 5/10. But in the end of the term, everyone's mark is scaled up to be same with other classes in the school.

From my class before:
nearly all members of the class have won prizes in various competitions in city and national level.
about 10 people go on to study overseas (including me).
3 people won scholarship to study (mainly due to English ability).
2 people finishing university level early and are admitted to do PHD at world top universities.
5 to 10 people took the top positions in some kinds of engineering exam in vietnam.
1 person was in the team winning the "Tri Tue Viet Nam" competition.

We also know math classes from other schools as well.
To be honest, the math problems given in the International Olympiad is not difficult compared to what we are given every week to do. The main problem is how to read, understand & present the solution in English.

Math in itself is a theoretical subject, even here in America it's treated as so. Only when one uses in technical fields like engineering or physics, then the practical aspects of math come out. VN is not too developed yet so we don't have a good engineering education, but Vietnamese people are known to be practical and resourceful.
BlueAway
Hasn't anyone figured out yet that these math competitions don't mean jack $hit? Look at the US. They placed 3rd. And take a look at the retarded American education system that breeds retards by the truckload.
supernovasp
QUOTE(BlueAway @ Apr 1 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]2830158[/snapback]

Hasn't anyone figured out yet that these math competitions don't mean jack $hit? Look at the US. They placed 3rd. And take a look at the retarded American education system that breeds retards by the truckload.

Dude, most of the contestants from America are often Asians :Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese.
BlueAway
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Apr 1 2007, 03:10 PM) [snapback]2830569[/snapback]

Dude, most of the contestants from America are often Asians :Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese.


Yeh. ASIAN PRIDE!! rockon.gif
tdk614
QUOTE(BlueAway @ Apr 1 2007, 05:36 PM) [snapback]2830907[/snapback]

Yeh. ASIAN PRIDE!! rockon.gif

One thing to notice is that Asians are generally better at applied math, but Whites are still superior in abstract math at the graduate education level.
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