If someone assinate Hun Sen, what will happen to Cambodia? Who would then rule Cambodia? Rannariddh? Sam Rainsy? or another pro-Viet Communist? I bet it would be another pro-Viet communist since Hanoi is controlling the government.

In my opinion, if Hun Sen is assinated, then Cambodia should rid the Vietnamese and the pro-Vietnamese government. They are the threat to the security of Cambodia. They have enroach our land (Svay-Rieng and others).

What do you think?

It is only good for the people that Cambodia is ruled by them. The government should be run by its own people without foreign influence.

True, but there are some who supported the foreign controlled. I want to see Cambodia rule by their own people, no one else. However, I don't mind foreign relation with China, Vietnam, Thailand, and others for as long as their interest in Cambodia is friendship nothing else more.

PEACE

This is about Cambodia, if you want to talk about China and Tibet, go to Chinese section.

Your making it out as if Vietnam owns Cambodia or something What China did to Tibet wasn't right anyways. If Hun Sen was assinated, the outcome can only be positive for Cambodia. An example of a good leader for Cambodia would be someone in the same mould as Thaksin Shinawatra of Thailand

PEACE

if he does die, yes i do agree that someone will replace him however none of us know who will replace him; this person could be for the better or worse for cambodia, but we won't know that until it happen.


One man can make a difference in the lives of many...

PEACE

I couldn't care less. Let the Cambodians kill Hun Sen all they want so they can shut up and stop ranting about Vietnamese this and Vietnamese that. Or as an alternative, just take over the country for good.

Don't need your caressness son. Do you think Vietnam can take over Cambodia for good? Do you think the international community would let Vietnam take over Cambodian for good???

Don't need your VC to care, you VC only care for own good, therefore you shut yap to your uranus.

If Hun Sen indeed is assinated, don't you think Khmer would have a plan first before they assinate him???? Do you think they dumb enough just to assinate Hun Sen alone??? Remember my friend, before their was a war, their has to be a plan. Before assinate Hun Sen, there would already a plan of how to change Cambodia and who should rule Cambodia. How? There are many Khmer community and organization around the world that are prepare to do such thing.

As for Vietnam, if you brag about China and Tibet and not care about Cambodia. What do you think if YOU are being PUPPET by CHINA? How does that feel? It is right to control ONE who is not relate to your race???? Since you are a PROUD VC supporter, should be proud of the American taken over Vietnam?????

Go take a nap.

ok,let's see what happens next

Thay, here is my analysis:

Of all the so-called Hanoi-friendly CPP members, Hun Sen is the one and only true pet dog of the Viets. Reportedly, his special personal forces are composed primarily of the Hanoi-based Viet mercenaries. Hun Sen repeatedly said that any Khmer nationalists attempting to liberate Kampuchea Krom from the grip of the Viets would each get a gift of coffin from him. Clearly he is an immoral Viet dog who likes to eat dog meat for food as its Viet masters.

His Viet masters had strengthened Hun Sen the dog with a "fake Vietnamese doctoral degree". His foreign flatterers also took notice of the Vietnamese tactic on Hun Sen. They too wanted to exploite the Cambodian natural resources and people by offerring the illiterate Viet dog named Hun Sen with so many so-called "doctoral degrees". Normally, a scholar has only one doctoral degree, but the Viet dog named Hun Sen has like over 5 doctoral degrees. All in all, the Viet dog named Hun Sen is well-known for his expertise of being a homosexual dog to his Viet lovers/masters whatever.

Within the CPP leadership circle, the Viet dog named Hun Sen is like number 3 or 4 in terms of ranking. However, with the support of his Viet homosexual lovers, that Viet dog Hun Sen keeps pushing everybody out of his way so that he can be the top Viet dog occupying the prime ministership position.

During the transitional period of United Nation administration of Cambodia, the Viet dog named Hun Sen and his CPP lost the national election to his political rival Prince Rannariddh. However, the aggressive immoral loser named Viet Dog Hun Sen threatened to use his "forces" to control some of the Cambodian provinces bordering Vietnam and to carry on a civil war against the newly elected Cambodian government.

After thirty years of wars, the Prince simply just wanted peace for the Cambodian people, so the prince decided to make that Viet dog named Hun Sen as his copreminister. However, soon after, the aggressive Viet dog named Hun Sen led a violent coup against the prince and killed off many of the prince's men and supporters.

The world condemned the Viet Dog named Hun Sen and cut off aids to Cambodia. Then the Viet Dog named Hun Sen challenged the world to a new national election between him and Prince Rannariddh. So the international observators came to monitor the "Cambodian election". The Viet Dog named Hun Sen wasted no time in sending his secret police forces to kill off, harrass, and intimidate all those who would cast their votes for the prince. Once again, the international community condemned the Viet Dog named Hun Sen, but he didn't care as he granted the ethnic Viet settlers "Cambodian citizenship" so that they could vote for him, while he killed off those Cambodians who chose not to side with him.

Despite the protest of the international community, the Viet Dog named Hun Sen declared himself the victor of the national election. The reason is simple because practically every Cambodian province in the State of Cambodia is officially controlled by a CPP appointee who had secret police forces to kill, murder, and harrass the ordinary Cambodian people under their supervision.

Under a decade-long Vietnamese occupation, Cambodia was in the worst state in the whole wide world. Then under the leadership of the Viet Dog named Hun Sen over a generation (20 years plus), Cambodia is still the worst state in the whole wide world.

It is time for the Viet Dog named Hun Sen to go and stop messing up the lives of the ordinary Cambodian people. The Viet Dog named Hun Sen needs to retire in his beloved Vietnam, the country of his anal lovers/masters whatever they are called. As an ordinary citizen, the Viet Dog named Hun Sen should not be settling down in Cambodia because his life alone will not pay off the sins and crimes committed against the innocent Cambodian people and the Khmer nation.

Don't assume that all the CPP leaders are like the Viet Dog named Hun Sen. For example one of the CPP leaders named Pen Sovann who personally trained Hun Sen wanted nothing to do with the Vietnamese invaders. However, the Viet Dog named Hun Sen told his Viet anal lovers/masters about the plot. Then Pen Sovann was caught and jailed in Hanoi for a very very long time. Regarding the Cambodian-Vietnam border issues, other CPP leaders objected the decision of the Viet Dog named Hun Sen. Then the Viet Dog named Hun Sen said that he would take a personal responsibilty to make all decisions regarding the matter of the border issues. The mathaf*cker Viet Dog named Hun Sen talked as if he owned Cambodia or something.

Based on this observation, I think with Hun Sen gone, the remaining nationalist CPP leaders and other political leaders will join hands to improve the pathetic condition of the Cambodian people and the state of Cambodia.

Just like Russia became backwards under the Mongol domination, the State of Cambodia also still remains the most backwards country on earth under the Vietnamese occupation and the leadership of Hanoi-friendly Viet Dog named Hun Sen.

In addition, in this thread, I see some so-called "them" college educated dogs who love to keep the Cambodians and the State of Cambodia down just like the Viet Dog named Hun Sen. So just watch for "them". I mean these are the dogs who are getting educated at higher learning institutions called colleges or universities. I hope you know what I mean because their essense as criminals never change through education and time.

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And you don't expect bullies with that connotation of Vietnamese as dogs.

I never knew Cambodians hated Vietnamese so much. My sympathy for them is running dry. Arms and legs up for a Vietnamese invasion.

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We don't generally hate "all Vietnamese", however we hate those Vietnamese like you. There are good Viets and Bad Viets, we hate the Bad one.

If you talking about "braggin" why do you guy brag the French, and the Chinese???? We are doing to the same thing my friend, look back at your history. As for the invasion, keep it coming, we're waiting.

I guess, you had to go to KC to spread your invasion.

PEACE

LOL how about invade in the morning, finishes by noon and have an afternoon tea? just kidding

PEACE

Don't ever predict the future, mistake can be learned from what had happen in the past. Look back at your history and see who is BRAGING, a matter of fact look at your own BRAGING against Chinese.... Anyway, I have better thing to do then wasting my valuable time arguing with fools.

Like I said we can brag about China since we won every war with them after the 900 AD. While Cambodia has always lost every single war with Vietnam, so how can you brag when your people always lose every major war with Vietnam?

If the case is fact and true, and if Hun Sen is going to die in tomorrow!!!...The KhmerCountry will be has a big celebration more than ever!!! After all we, all Khmers will elect a new KhmerLeader who is honor and willing to work for the population Khmers, and has a great knowledgment organizer the political country and KhmerLives progressionbooster. But we dont need CPP or any Yuons to involve or mess with Khmers!!! Its a tough time for us Khmers!!! Kick YounAzz out of KhmerLand...

King Suryvaraman fought many vietnamese invaders successfully, King Jayavarman the VII fought off many vietnamese invaders successfully also. All of this took place before and after 900 AD at the height of the Khmer Empire. :genius:

Vietnam didn't even meet the Khmer Empire until the 17th century because Champa was blocking the two countries. It wasn't until after Champa fell to Vietnam that Vietnam started to go after and weaken the Khmer Empire.



http://angkor1431.tripod.com/index/id19.html

Here's the life of King Jayavarman VII, he's famous for defeating CHAM invasions not Vietnmamese invasions, since Vietnam didn't start invading until the 17th century.


Just because Vietnam now has the land which used to belong to the Cham doesn't mean that the Khmer Empire defeated Vietnam, they defeated Champa, which is a different kingdom.


King Suryavaram II is famous for losing a war with the Chams and thus forced Jayavarman VII to abandon Hinduism because Suryavaram II was Hindu.

King Suryavaram II and King Jayavarman VII never even had a war with Vietnam since they far away and separated by the Chams.

Vietnam then had it's first war with the Khmer Empire in the 17th century and occupied it and put a puppet King on the throne loyal to Vietnam and then Vietnam and Thailand both ruled Cambodia until the French came.

http://disc.cba.uh.edu/~lienhoa/history.shtml

"For the next several generations, Vietnam continued its historic “march to the south,” wiping up the remnants of the Cham Kingdom and gradually approaching the marshy flatlands of the Mekong delta. There it confronted a new foe, the Khmer Empire, which had once been the most powerful state in the region. By the late 16th century, however, it had declined, and it offered little resistance to Vietnamese encroachment. By the end of the 17th century, Vietnam had occupied the lower Mekong delta and began to advance to the west, threatening to transform the disintegrating Khmer state into a mere protectorate. See also Cambodia."

Notice the word "new", so Vietnam and Cambodia weren't foes until after the 17th century after the Chams were defeated and the Khmer Empire was right beside the fallen Champa.

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Byron here is a battle defeat for VN by a joined efforts between the Siameses and Khmers. I it was very small victory for Khmers, but nontheless it was still a victory. Stop bragging about Khmers never defeat Viets in any battle.

That really wasn't a "defeat" for Vietnam. Vietnam already took over Cambodia and couldn't totally killed the insurgents, just like how U.S took over Iraq and still hasn't totally killed the insurgents.

The insurgents were backed by Thailand, so instead Vietnam decided to partner up with Thailand instead of leaving the country to the insurgents.

I never claim we win the war b/c the Siamese backstabbed us. However, we did win the battle. You keep lying that Khmers never defeat Viet in any battle. Note: battle not war.

What's so disgusting about getting help from your allies in war. I am sure your Uncle Ho and his VC's would defeat the French and the American without the Chinese and Russian helps. Talking about disgusting .

lol just because a few Cambodian insurgents just happened to be on the side of the Thai army, doesn't mean Cambodia defeated Vietnam in that war. lol

That's like saying the French resistance defeated Germany, just because the Allies led by America,Britain and the Soviet Union did MOST of the work.

Or like how the Phillipines defeated Japan in WW2, just because they happened to be on America's side when American defeated Japan.

A few Khmers insurgents that happened to be on the side of the Thais doesn't mean jack. The insurgents couldn't do jack $hit to the Vietnamese, I think the Thais did most of the fighting though.

So it was a victory for Vietnam and Thailand, while Cambodia got betrayed by Thailand. lol

Read this again. Now, can you honestly tell me that a few Khmer insurgents can do such damage to the Viet force in Cambodia? However, you will try to deny it again as always.

dude it says Cambodians slaughtered Vietnamese OVERLORDS, not the Vietnamese army.

Overlords as in the officials were in control of Vietnam.

Like for instance, lets choose England as a country that goes in and colonizes some country, they defeat that countries army and sets up a government there.

They then appoint overlords to govern the country.

Then one day the native people decide to team up with another country and thus while the overlords are sleeping they go in and kill them, and then England finds out and sends troops to restore the peace and wipe out the insurgents, but the insurgents already have allies to take care of the army.

OVERLORD=People in charge. Killing a few high ranking people who didn't expect an uprise by a few assassins doesn't mean that country lost a battle. LOL

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=overlord

Definition:

Overlord A lord having power or supremacy over other lords.

So Khmers assassinating a few overlords means they won a battle. lol So that means the Soviets won a battle with America when Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated Kennedy. LOL

Regardless, the Khmers and Siameses had generally defeated the Viet force in Cambodia. However, it was the diplomatic backstabbing by the Siamese that caused Cambodia to lose the war.

Another thing I want you to look up is what is general uprising mean. Does it mean mass population involvement or just a few insurgens as you said? Be honest to yourself now. Otherwise, the lady in my sign. will keep laughing at your @$$.

Dude all the Khmers did was assassinate a few Vietnamese overlords who weren't expecting anything.

They were surrounded by Cambodian servants, it isn't hard for them to assassinate the overlords, considering they were always with them.

lol just because there were a few Khmer Insurgents with the Thailand army somehow makes them win a battle against the Vietnaemse.

So that means IndoChina defeated Germany in WW2, since France took some troops from IndoChina and brought them to Europe to fight against the Germans.

Since the Allies won WW2, then according to your logic, Indochina defeated Geramny in the war because there happened to be a few troops from Indochina fighting against Germany.

lol

I dare you to go to any military forum and tell them that the Phillipines defeated Japan in WW2 because they happened to be on the side of America in that war and there was an uprising by Filipinos who helped the Americans to fight against the Japanese.

Lol if Khmers only assassinated a few Viet overloads, can you care to explain the quotes below? I know it's hard to admit defeat, but VN was pretty much militarily defeated in that war. However, VN managed to defeat Khmers diplomatically b/c of the Siamese backstabbing.

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Hmmmm why are some Cambodians (By that I mean the Cambodians in this topic who I am having a debate with) have to claim credit from other groups to boast. lol Yeah next time I'm gonna boast that Indochina defeated Germany in WW2 because there were some Indochinese troops in Europe fighting against the Germans. lol

Since you seems to know the war so well, can tell me how many Siamese soliders were in Cambodia did all of the fighting? This was Cambodians fighting on their land to ge rid of the conquering Viets. You talk like Cambodians just sitting on their hands waiting for the Siameses to do all of the work for them.

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Ok this was after Vietnam took over Cambodia. Do you honestly believe that Cambodia had enough weapons and cannons to defeat the Vietnamese army?

I don't care if there were more Cambodians to do an uprising, most of them probably had no weapons to match. Just because there were more Cambodians doesn't mean jack.

Look at how Europe defeated all those Africans who outnumbered them just because Europeons had superior numbers.

The Thais had weapons, so it is more logically for them to do most of the fighting.

I'm sure Cambodians that had weapons which were few of them weren't sitting on their hands. But in general the Thais probably did most of the fighting since they had weapons.

Like I said even if Cambodians contributed a lot, it still doesn't matter, I was talking about Vietnam and Cambodia, 1 on 1, with no cheap interference. You can't gang up on people and say you won alone.

How the fu-k did Cambodians stole other people credits. Didn't I say a joint effort between Siameses and Khmers. BTW, it were Khmers who did the uprising and Viets killing and then invited the Siamese for assistant. Talking about discrediting.

Oh about that Indochina defeating the German in WWII craps. The people in Indochina helped Allies jack. In fact, many joined the Japaneses to help capture the Frenchs - especially Viet Minhs and Khmer Isaraks. Many people couldn't careless for either side.

PEACE

I think the closest the khmers got was when they subdued the Chams and besieged Hanoi in the 12 century ......

@Byron
Khmer Isarak concentrated in Cambodia to get rid of the French there. Why the fu-k would they go to VN and do the battle against the French for Viets. Yeah, like many of the battles Viets fought against the French were in Cambodia during the Indochina period?

PEACE

Yes it was a defeat but I see that as a temporary setback, not a total defeat of the Vietnamese army.

A temporary setback by the Thais not the Cambodians.

Dude when we talk about Indochina, I thought we're beyond the need to explain that the regions were incorporated as a single entity by the French. So obviously the citizens of Indochina were free to travel to what is now VN, Cambodia, and Laos. However, you can't deny the fact that many Khmers, Viets, and Loatians were concentrated in the areas of what is now Cambodia, Laos, and VN, respectively. And, these people always considered the areas of land they occupied as separate countries.

Sometime, I wonder about you.

@Nam


Yes, I know it was a small victory and I even admitted it in my previous post. I just wanted to point to Byron and other people that VN did not defeat Cambodia in every battle.

Yes, I know it was a small victory and I even admitted it in my previous post. I just wanted to point to Byron and other people that VN did not defeat Cambodia in every battle.

-Holoman.

You mean VN didn't defeat Thailand in every battle.

Byron I think you need to go back to vietnam. When one flame start you like to leave behind trails also. Don't brag anymore about vietnam this and vietnam that cus most of Khmers and I don't give a $hit. You like to lead people off topic alot boasting about vietnam this and that and yes sometime I know you didn't start those flame but at least try not to brag you annoying bastard.

Now back on topic.

Yes it would be for the good of Cambodia if Hun Sen is assassinated. Then most likely we will have a new prime minister that would focus on 'ITS OWN PEOPLE' and help our people rise from poverty.