littOvietkid
Jun 23 2004, 12:57 PM
not only is this guy and idiot, but he is ignorant and racist
www.xanga.com/nuggyboy99
AidanW
Jun 23 2004, 01:39 PM
Wow this guy is racist, dude. Not just him but other people that were commenting in his page. Nuggy is an arse!!!
supernovasp
Jun 23 2004, 01:43 PM

There are too many people like him on xanga.
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 01:53 PM
lol here are his reason on why Vietnaemse make asians look bad.
QUOTE
1)They drive Honda civics(Not that's it's true since I hardly ever see those with Vietnamese driving them)
2)Because Vietnamese parents want to make their kids lawyers and doctors and they are deluding themselves because their kids WON'T SUPPORT THEM.
3)Because they are cheap and want to get the best deal ever.
Wow what good reasons. lol This guy probably isn't even white since when did a white guy care what asian ethnic group makes asians look bad since most whites believe all asians are the same.
I would say this guy is some other asian ethnic group which I will not comment which group I think he belongs to.
I'll admit Vietnamese are cheap, but then again what is wrong with that? It's called "SAVING YOUR MONEY", and it's beats spending all your money trying to be all Ghetto and $hit with gold rings and trying to show off all your "cash" to get honeys and then end up a bum once it all goes away.
PervertBurger
Jun 23 2004, 01:56 PM
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 02:53 PM)
lol wow what good reasons why Vietnaemse make asians look bad.
Because
1)They drive Honda civics(Not that's it's true since I hardly ever see those with Vietnamese driving them)
2)Because Vietnamese parents want to make their kids lawyers and doctors and they are deluding themselves because their kids WON'T SUPPORT THEM.
3)Because they are cheap and want to get the best deal ever.
Wow what good reasons. lol This guy probably isn't even white since when did a white guy care what asian ethnic group makes asians look bad since most whites believe all asians are the same.
I would say this guy is some other asian ethnic group which I will not comment which group I think he belongs to.
I know what group your thinking though and NO.
EDIT: Okay nevermind..I don't =[
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 02:00 PM
lol damn I thought that was gonna be something more hurtful, but this nuggyboy wasn't THAT racist. It makes him look stupid because his reasons for hating Vietnamese aren't even that bad.
Now if he had somehow proved that Vietamese were mostly homeless, or committed lots of crimes, or were mostly highschool drop outs then yeah I might be a little hurt.
But instead he just nitpicked and picked flaws that aren't even that big of a deal.
Hell that's probably the most nicest things I heard from a non-Vietnamese guy about Vietanemese.
This guy should take lessons from CNA, they can make much more better insults at Vietnamese, because this guy isn't really insulting at all.
littOvietkid
Jun 23 2004, 02:01 PM
yeh i think i know which group but saying it wouldnt be right..
AidanW
Jun 23 2004, 02:02 PM
If you were going to say Cambodians-No because if you read other members comments that were made about the Honda cars pics, they say he has also made his member page about Khmer people. This guy hates asian people PERIOD.
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 02:05 PM
This guy is just joking and trying to get attention. Look at his other reasons for hating Vietnamese.
"Your fu-king pho is greasy. Your mother does nails. Your father sells donuts. Your older sibling is smarter than you. Your young sibling is more gangster than you. You drive a piece of $hit Honda with ugly taillights and an oversized muffler (because you can't afford the whole exhaust system). Basically you're a b!tch."
Wow he hates us because Pho is greasy and that Vietnamese women like to take occupations in beauty and father likes to open donut shops and Older Sibling is more smarter than the middle sibling.
WTF, wow what insults.

I'm hurt. I'm now ashamed that my Pho is greasy. ROFL.
TDscorpion
Jun 23 2004, 02:11 PM
QUOTE
I'll admit Vietnamese are cheap, but then again what is wrong with that? It's called "SAVING YOUR MONEY",
Remember 911 event ... a Viet contribute $2 million out of his money to US .. Vietnamese community has sent over $1 million to help our countrymen in the Philippines and many other things I can't list them all here.
Have you heard " choi xa lang sang ve som"?
littOvietkid
Jun 23 2004, 02:16 PM
well i still think hes dumb..cause theres no reason to hate on a race..we're all human..
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 02:19 PM
It's ok to hate on a race when they generally do negative things, but the reasons why he hated us are hardly negative at all.
holamon
Jun 23 2004, 02:26 PM
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 01:53 PM)
I would say this guy is some other asian ethnic group which I will not comment which group I think he belongs to.
I think I know which Asian ethnic group you had in mind. Not too suprising.
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 02:31 PM
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 03:26 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 01:53 PM)
I would say this guy is some other asian ethnic group which I will not comment which group I think he belongs to.
I think I know which Asian ethnic group you had in mind. Not too suprising.
and which one would that be? It probably is not the one I'm thinking.
Menikani
Jun 23 2004, 02:34 PM
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 02:53 PM)
I would say this guy is some other asian ethnic group which I will not comment which group I think he belongs to.
Why do you always attribute racism against Viets to "Other Asians"? What? Can't accept the fact that Vietnamese are just about hated by almost everybody? I hate to tell you this but, Face it, he is a white man who hates Viet.
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 02:36 PM
QUOTE (Menikani @ Jun 23 2004, 03:34 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 02:53 PM)
I would say this guy is some other asian ethnic group which I will not comment which group I think he belongs to.
Why do you always attribute racism against Viets to "Other Asians"? What? Can't accept the fact that Vietnamese are just about hated by almost everybody? I hate to tell you this but, Face it, he is a white man who hates Viet.
lol uh of course there are lots of white people that hate Vietnamese, but white people are pretty clueless to insult a specific asian ethnicity, they usually group asians as the same and only diss asians or Chinese(since they think all Asians are Chinese).
I would say it is 60% that the offender is a different asian ethnicity to actually be able to distinguish other asian ethnicity.
OR
he is a white guy who is pissed that America lost the Vietnam War which is why he has a picture of Ho Chi Minh and disses Vietcong a lot.
But I don't care, his insults were more complimenting than insulting.
holamon
Jun 23 2004, 02:43 PM
QUOTE
lol uh of course there are lots of white people that hate Vietnamese, but white people are pretty clueless to insult a specific asian entity, they usually group asians as the same and only diss asians or Chinese(since they think all Asians are Chinese).
Not if the racist is an educated one. The fact that he's a cop, he probably had dealed with a lot of people from other ethnic groups rather than just white. You should check out stormfront sometime.
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 02:46 PM
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 03:43 PM)
QUOTE
lol uh of course there are lots of white people that hate Vietnamese, but white people are pretty clueless to insult a specific asian entity, they usually group asians as the same and only diss asians or Chinese(since they think all Asians are Chinese).
Not if the racist is an educated one. The fact that he's a cop, he probably had dealed with a lot of people from other ethnic groups rather than just white. You should check out stormfront sometime.
lol are you sure he is a cop? He may claim to be a cop, but do you know for sure he is?
Like I said, his insults were funny since they weren't that bad. He hates us because one of our foods is greasy(Like American food isn't with all those fat average Americans) and that Vietnamese drive civics and the females prefer to work in beauty parlours and the males like to own donut shops.(Koreans own variety stores as well)
Those aren't even insults, he just twists them around to make it sound like having one greasy food is bad.
PervertBurger
Jun 23 2004, 03:01 PM
QUOTE
ou should check out stormfront sometime.
Stormfront is garbage.
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 03:05 PM
I even read comments by white members against some of them Chinese as well and these Chinese members actually accept them and don't get angry and try to clairfy to them that it isn't what they think.
Damn some asians are just too white washed and care so much about what white people think about them.
holamon
Jun 23 2004, 03:07 PM
^
I know stormfront is a racist site, but some of those people are quite educated despite being racists.
Update:
Btw, I am not a member of stormfront. However, I go there sometime and read just to keep myself inform how those white racists there thought of other non-whites people.
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 03:20 PM
Actually I find racism by anyone insulting.
DaiNamViet
Jun 23 2004, 03:56 PM
QUOTE (Menikani @ Jun 23 2004, 03:34 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 02:53 PM)
I would say this guy is some other asian ethnic group which I will not comment which group I think he belongs to.
Why do you always attribute racism against Viets to "Other Asians"? What? Can't accept the fact that Vietnamese are just about hated by almost everybody? I hate to tell you this but, Face it, he is a white man who hates Viet.
And Cambodians are loved by every one
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 04:07 PM
Of course no one hates Cambodians in the west, because hardly anyone knows that they exists. lol
holamon
Jun 23 2004, 04:12 PM
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 04:07 PM)
Of course no one hates Cambodians in the west, because hardly anyone knows that they exists. lol
Lol. The only major reason Viets are more well known in the West is b/c of Uncle Ho & his VC's. I guess boat people also contributed to it.
DaiNamViet
Jun 23 2004, 04:24 PM
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 05:12 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 04:07 PM)
Of course no one hates Cambodians in the west, because hardly anyone knows that they exists. lol
Lol. The only major reason Viets are more well known in the West is b/c of Uncle Ho & his VC's. I guess boat people also contributed to it.
and the cambodians were chartered first class here
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 04:25 PM
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 05:12 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 04:07 PM)
Of course no one hates Cambodians in the west, because hardly anyone knows that they exists. lol
Lol. The only major reason Viets are more well known in the West is b/c of Uncle Ho & his VC's. I guess boat people also contributed to it.
Yeah at least we are well known for the Vietnam War which is well known for Vietnam's victory. Now if we lost, everyone would just forget it.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Jun 23 2004, 04:28 PM
Vietnamese and Cambodians just cannot have a civilised discussion.
vn1234
Jun 23 2004, 04:29 PM
do you have something against Cambodians Byron - or just their govnt?
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 04:31 PM
Sorry, I mixed it up and wrote the reverse. I really meant, I only have a problem with the former Khmer Rouge goverment and not the people. Made a huge typo.
DaiNamViet
Jun 23 2004, 04:33 PM
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 05:31 PM)
Just the people, not the Vietnamese backed government.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Jun 23 2004, 04:34 PM
You should know better that he's just being a fu-king idiot. Just ignore him and don't bring yourself down to his level.
holamon
Jun 23 2004, 04:36 PM
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Jun 23 2004, 04:24 PM)
and the cambodians were chartered first class here

Now when did I claim Cambodians were charted first class to western countries

? However, if you were to ask Westerners who were the boat people, most likely they will tell you that boat people were Vietnameses. Khmers or any other immigrant groups are unlikely too be associated with being boat people by Westerners.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Jun 23 2004, 04:38 PM
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 05:36 PM)
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Jun 23 2004, 04:24 PM)
and the cambodians were chartered first class here

Now when did I claim Cambodians were charted first class to western countries

? However, if you were to ask Westerners who were the boat people, most likely they will tell you that boat people were Vietnameses. Khmers or any other immigrant groups are unlikely too be associated with being boat people by Westerners.
Who cares if we were boat people? Does it make any difference if we were chartered first class here? The important thing is that Vietnamese people are one successful group of people overseas and our importance is being felt moreso by the day.
DaiNamViet
Jun 23 2004, 04:39 PM
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 05:36 PM)
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Jun 23 2004, 04:24 PM)
and the cambodians were chartered first class here

Now when did I claim Cambodians were charted first class to western countries

? However, if you were to ask Westerners who were the boat people, most likely they will tell you that boat people were Vietnameses. Khmers or any other immigrant groups are unlikely too be associated with being boat people by Westerners.
Yea, and if you ask them whois the whitest and most innocent of all asians, their're gonna say cambodians too ? Like I give a rats @$$ what they think
holamon
Jun 23 2004, 04:40 PM
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jun 23 2004, 04:28 PM)
Vietnamese and Cambodians just cannot have a civilised discussion.

I disagreed. A conversation can be had between Viets & Cambodians as long no insults are throwing at each other.
holamon
Jun 23 2004, 04:43 PM
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 04:31 PM)
Just the people, not the Vietnamese backed government.
Ah..the feeling is mutual for Viets like you who promote hates. So

Sh!t double posts.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Jun 23 2004, 04:46 PM
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 05:43 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 04:31 PM)
Just the people, not the Vietnamese backed government.
Ah..the feeling is mutual for Viets like you who promote hates. So

Sh!t double posts.
Yeah no insults

Just a stab in the back.
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 04:48 PM
My messages were taken out of context, and I support the Cambodian people, just not their old Khmer Rouge government.
holamon
Jun 23 2004, 04:51 PM
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jun 23 2004, 04:46 PM)
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 05:43 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 04:31 PM)
Just the people, not the Vietnamese backed government.
Ah..the feeling is mutual for Viets like you who promote hates. So

Sh!t double posts.
Yeah no insults

Just a stab in the back.
Nam sometime you're funny

. If you haven't notice the stabbing had gone both ways between Viets and Khmers.
Update: @ByronQUOTE
How can the feeling be mutual?
I feel that I like the Vietanmese backed government in Cambodia, you can't have a mutual feeling of that since there is not Cambodian backed government in Vietnam.
Ah..my bad. I should have taken the Viet backed government out.
QUOTE
lol actually the boat people are really ethnic Chinese, with some Vietnamese escaping with them
There were 2 types of immigrants, ones that escaped on helicoptors during the fall of Saigon, and those who escaped by boat during the 1979 kicking out of Chinese from Vietnam due to the Sino-Vietnam War.
Doesn't matter. Boat people are still being perceived as Viets by Westerners.
QUOTE
The boat people are the ethnic Chinese who were kicked out, many Vietnamese pretended to be Chinese as well to escape the country. My father was a boat person as well.
So the "one successful group" are actually consisted mainly of ethnic Chineses and not true Viets. Remember now, these people are Chineses and cannot be considered Viets b/c you're government did not thought so either that's why they were deported.
So the number of oversea Viets are actually incorrect b/c deported Chineses from VN were included in it.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Jun 23 2004, 04:54 PM
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 05:51 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jun 23 2004, 04:46 PM)
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 05:43 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 04:31 PM)
Just the people, not the Vietnamese backed government.
Ah..the feeling is mutual for Viets like you who promote hates. So

Sh!t double posts.
Yeah no insults

Just a stab in the back.
Nam sometime you're funny

. If you haven't notice the stabbing had gone both ways between Viets and Khmers.
I have noticed that and I have implied that.
holamon
Jun 23 2004, 05:04 PM
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Jun 23 2004, 04:54 PM)
I have noticed that and I have implied that.

OK. Cool
Jotmaimamoreaj
Jun 23 2004, 05:24 PM
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 23 2004, 03:05 PM)
This guy is just joking and trying to get attention. Look at his other reasons for hating Vietnamese.
"Your fu-king pho is greasy. Your mother does nails. Your father sells donuts. Your older sibling is smarter than you. Your young sibling is more gangster than you. You drive a piece of $hit Honda with ugly taillights and an oversized muffler (because you can't afford the whole exhaust system). Basically you're a b!tch."
Wow he hates us because Pho is greasy and that Vietnamese women like to take occupations in beauty and father likes to open donut shops and Older Sibling is more smarter than the middle sibling.
WTF, wow what insults.

I'm hurt. I'm now ashamed that my Pho is greasy. ROFL.
Aah! don't get so discourage over some stupid comment. I purely think pho is greaseelicious.
holamon
Jun 23 2004, 06:07 PM
Deleted.
Posted in wrong forum..sorry.
Nero874
Jun 23 2004, 07:03 PM
QUOTE
So the "one successful group" are actually consisted mainly of ethnic Chineses and not true Viets. Remember now, these people are Chineses and cannot be considered Viets b/c you're government did not thought so either that's why they were deported.
What exactly is your point? Vietnamese in general are successful EVERYWHERE internationally. These are backed up my stats in books that I've read (one being "Vietnamese American: The Immigrant Series" which included some stats on other countries the refugees fled to). Most of the praises I've heard were for the first wave of refugees in 1975, who were mainly native Viets - because they were the trailblazers, who became successful themselves to help some of the subsequent refugees. My point is there are plenty of success stories in every wave of refugees.
If you are hell bent on trying to take away credit where credit is due, I'll be happy to play your game, but I'll play in a more honest way (i.e. show you real stats of successful Viets vs successful Cambodians...you know very well what the results are going to be).
And I take personal pride in my family being boat people - we didn't have luxuries handed to us on a silver platter. Viets take pride in the pains they've gone through and sacrifices made because they know it builds character - so don't think you are hurting anyone's feelings by calling us boat people.
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 07:06 PM
Like I said the first wave of immigrants were mostly full Vietnamese, while the 2nd wave of boat people were both Chinese and Vietnamese as well.
These ethnic Chinese consider themselves Vietnamese and a lot can't even speak Chinese and only Vietnamese. They have fully integrated into Vietnamese culture since they day they were born.
TDscorpion
Jun 23 2004, 07:25 PM
Do not forget the fact that the first 102 immigrants whom arrived in America were the boat people ... Mayflower that sailed to America from England in 1620
Do not forget the fact that several thousands Chinese who took refuge in VN around 1670's were also the boat people.
vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe
Jun 23 2004, 07:54 PM
aww ignore the white kid , whocares what he thinks about us , we are all educated , we gotta do better than those white people , study good , and make those white people our employee , give them orders all u want !!
Byron
Jun 23 2004, 07:57 PM
Peace everybody.
holamon
Jun 23 2004, 08:02 PM
QUOTE
What exactly is your point? Vietnamese in general are successful EVERYWHERE internationally. These are backed up my stats in books that I've read (one being "Vietnamese American: The Immigrant Series" which included some stats on other countries the refugees fled to). Most of the praises I've heard were for the first wave of refugees in 1975, who were mainly native Viets - because they were the trailblazers, who became successful themselves to help some of the subsequent refugees. My point is there are plenty of success stories in every wave of refugees.
If you are hell bent on trying to take away credit where credit is due, I'll be happy to play your game, but I'll play in a more honest way (i.e. show you real stats of successful Viets vs successful Cambodians...you know very well what the results are going to be).
Hey I am just basing this on the information that Byron gave. I am sure their are true Viet success stories -- all groups of immigrants have their success stories. However, if some of these success stories came from ethnic Chineses that were deported from VN b/c they were considered as Chinese by your government, then I think those stories cannot be considered as oversea Viet success stories. And, if any studies added those stories into their statistical data, then I would considered those information to be inaccurate.
Also @ TDscorpion
QUOTE
And I take personal pride in my family being boat people - we didn't have luxuries handed to us on a silver platter. Viets take pride in the pains they've gone through and sacrifices made because they know it builds character - so don't think you are hurting anyone's feelings by calling us boat people.
I never said there's anything wrong being boat people. I am sure they endured hardship. However, I am just giving some of the reasons why Viets are more well known in the West than Khmers since Byron was bragging about it.
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