The absence of Malays on billionaire lists have been very misleading and totally out of touch with reality.
I think it is caused by 2 factors
a) Much (if not all) of their assets are still privately held
b) In contrast to ethnic Chinese billionaires who love to flaunt wealth, Malay billionaires prefer to keep a low profile. It’s the racial trait of Malays.
My list here may not include all Malay billionaires because identifying every single one of them is not easy
This is what I have come up with so far.
Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary
His flagship company MMC is in the process of acquiring Malakoff. Later on he may find a large investor to buy a stake in Malakoff but as things stand now, his stake in MMC inclusive of Malakoff is around US$2 billion.
His stakes in MARDEC, Bernas, Bank Muamalat, Senai Airport, Tradewinds Corporation, Albukhary Foundation and other listed and unlisted companies would add another US$2 billion.
Daim Zainuddin
This banking magnate is the epitome of enigmatic Bumiputra billionaires. He is so secretive that the controlling stake in Alliance bank/Malaysian Plantations which is held under someone else’s name is said to actually belong to him. His main asset is the ICB Financial Group based in Switzerland. Financial figures for this bank is not available but it had 1,100 employees in 2004.
A highly competitive bank with that number of employees is usually worth around US$1.1 billion. That was 2 yrs ago. If the bank was really growing at 60% annually as reported here, http://www.daimzainuddin.com/DaimandHisBanks.htm
Daim’s 100% stake in ICB would be worth US$2.7 billion now. He also owns a number of energy companies in Africa and Central Asia. As for the value of those energy companies ……… your estimate is as good as mine.
SM Nasimuddin
Judging by this year’s sales volume, his flagship company Naza Motors is set to register revenue of ~6 billion Ringgit. In Malaysia, a highly profitable car company is valued at roughly the same price as the revenue figure. Since Naza has been in talks to buy a 40% interest in Proton and is also planning to build another billion Ringgit factory in India in addition to a similar sized factory it is building in Bertam, we can assume that Naza is a very profitable company awash in cash. Therefore the market value for Naza can be estimated to be 6 bil Rgt or $1.7 billion. Adding his other assets, Nasimuddin’s net worth should be closer to $2 billion.
Halim Saad
His wholly owned oil company Markmore Energy has a 55% interest in a 900 million barrels African oil field. His share of 500 million barrels would be worth not less than $3 billion. Once his 200,000 ton biodiesel plant and his construction firm Metro Ikram are in full swing, his net value will swell by another $2 bil.
If they were more open about their assets, Daim Zainuddin or Halim Saad may well be recognized as the richest Malaysian; and they are much younger than Robert Kuok.
Within a year or two, these four Bumiputra billionaires will be joined by Naser Ismail
the owner of Solarin and founder of Denmark Solar Industry. These two firms are building a billion Rgt solar panel manufacturing plant complete with polysilicon production facilities. A plant of this size will be producing ~$300 million in sales when fully operational. A fully integrated solar cell maker such as Renewable Energy Corp is usually valued at 10 times revenue. That means the joint venture between Solarin and DSI will be worth ~$4 billion if other assets are included. Exactly how many billion dollars Datuk Naser Ismail will be worth depends on his equity in DSI and Solarin’s stake in the joint venture.
BTW, the main purpose of this thread is to refute arguments made by Malay hater crackpots out there who claim that Malays still could not excel despite running the govt.
Full Version: Malay Billionaires
To me, Ketuanan Melayu is the false notion of malay greatness or malay supremacy. Truth is - there is nothing to associate the malay race with greatness.
By any widely accepted standards, it will be obvious to see that the malay race does not qualify to be called one of the great races of this world. Truth is that the Chinese and Indians have a culture accomplished far greater and much more than these jokers have.
It should be Chinese and Indian supremacy in Malaysia. The only reason why malays have power in Malaysia is because they have the biggest population, and the racist rhetoric of the malay Umno politicians always sway the malay vote towards themselves.
Anyway, back to the untrue notion of Ketuanan Melayu. Let us see what malays have accomplished. Has any malay won the Nobel Prize - no. Has any malay been nominated for the Nobel Prize - most probably not.
By contrast, numerous Chinese and Indians have won the Nobel Prize and various other awards. The Chinese and Indian diaspora is widely recognized as two of the three most successful diasporas in history, the other being the Jewish diaspora. All over the world, Chinese and Indians have become successful artists, CEOs, doctors, filmmakers, scientists, writers, etc, etc.
Name one malay who is widely recognized around the world in his or her field. The only malay whose name might be recognized out of this country is Mahathir, and he is part Indian. Is malay culture recognized as a world renowned culture - no.
Malay culture, if cultures were ranked, would be close to the bottom. What is their culture compared to the great Chinese and Indian cultures that are centuries old and really rich! The Chinese and Indians have a 5000 years old history during which China and India have played a very important part in world history.
Nobody knew about malays until the Indian kings of south India first came here. That is why the oldest archeological remains in Malaysia, in Lembah Bujang, are Hindu temples.
The malay sultanate itself was started by a Hindu - Parameswara. And even at the height of its power, the Malacca sultanate was nothing more than a vassal of the Chinese emperor.
Have any malay architect designed anything worthwhile - no. Have any malay author won the Booker Prize or the Pulitzer Prize - no. Have any malay filmmaker won an Oscar - no. Have the malays achieved anything in sports - no.
Chinese and Indians have achieved all this. So there is no real Ketuanan Melayu. It is a fiction concocted by racist stupid politicians to keep the "kampung malays" happy thinking that they have had a glorious past.
They don't. Their history isn't worth mentioning. You would never find a mention of malays or Malaysia or Tanah Melayu in most books of world history while entire chapters are devoted to the history of China and India.
The discriminative constitution and law of Malaysia is just a recognition of this fact. The malay leaders and to every single malay knows that on a level playing field, the malays will never be able to compete with the Chinese and Indians.
By any widely accepted standards, it will be obvious to see that the malay race does not qualify to be called one of the great races of this world. Truth is that the Chinese and Indians have a culture accomplished far greater and much more than these jokers have.
It should be Chinese and Indian supremacy in Malaysia. The only reason why malays have power in Malaysia is because they have the biggest population, and the racist rhetoric of the malay Umno politicians always sway the malay vote towards themselves.
Anyway, back to the untrue notion of Ketuanan Melayu. Let us see what malays have accomplished. Has any malay won the Nobel Prize - no. Has any malay been nominated for the Nobel Prize - most probably not.
By contrast, numerous Chinese and Indians have won the Nobel Prize and various other awards. The Chinese and Indian diaspora is widely recognized as two of the three most successful diasporas in history, the other being the Jewish diaspora. All over the world, Chinese and Indians have become successful artists, CEOs, doctors, filmmakers, scientists, writers, etc, etc.
Name one malay who is widely recognized around the world in his or her field. The only malay whose name might be recognized out of this country is Mahathir, and he is part Indian. Is malay culture recognized as a world renowned culture - no.
Malay culture, if cultures were ranked, would be close to the bottom. What is their culture compared to the great Chinese and Indian cultures that are centuries old and really rich! The Chinese and Indians have a 5000 years old history during which China and India have played a very important part in world history.
Nobody knew about malays until the Indian kings of south India first came here. That is why the oldest archeological remains in Malaysia, in Lembah Bujang, are Hindu temples.
The malay sultanate itself was started by a Hindu - Parameswara. And even at the height of its power, the Malacca sultanate was nothing more than a vassal of the Chinese emperor.
Have any malay architect designed anything worthwhile - no. Have any malay author won the Booker Prize or the Pulitzer Prize - no. Have any malay filmmaker won an Oscar - no. Have the malays achieved anything in sports - no.
Chinese and Indians have achieved all this. So there is no real Ketuanan Melayu. It is a fiction concocted by racist stupid politicians to keep the "kampung malays" happy thinking that they have had a glorious past.
They don't. Their history isn't worth mentioning. You would never find a mention of malays or Malaysia or Tanah Melayu in most books of world history while entire chapters are devoted to the history of China and India.
The discriminative constitution and law of Malaysia is just a recognition of this fact. The malay leaders and to every single malay knows that on a level playing field, the malays will never be able to compete with the Chinese and Indians.
^If you think chinese so great why you with 1.5 billion of your population need to worry much and need to prove anything to Malay with has number just less than 1% of you.
very interesting iron malayan thanks.
Parameswara=Javanese=Indonesian
QUOTE(malaysia is no future @ Dec 24 2006, 01:43 PM) [snapback]2596388[/snapback]
To me, Ketuanan Melayu is the false notion of malay greatness or malay supremacy. Truth is - there is nothing to associate the malay race with greatness.
By any widely accepted standards, it will be obvious to see that the malay race does not qualify to be called one of the great races of this world. Truth is that the Chinese and Indians have a culture accomplished far greater and much more than these jokers have.
It should be Chinese and Indian supremacy in Malaysia. The only reason why malays have power in Malaysia is because they have the biggest population, and the racist rhetoric of the malay Umno politicians always sway the malay vote towards themselves.
Anyway, back to the untrue notion of Ketuanan Melayu. Let us see what malays have accomplished. Has any malay won the Nobel Prize - no. Has any malay been nominated for the Nobel Prize - most probably not.
By contrast, numerous Chinese and Indians have won the Nobel Prize and various other awards. The Chinese and Indian diaspora is widely recognized as two of the three most successful diasporas in history, the other being the Jewish diaspora. All over the world, Chinese and Indians have become successful artists, CEOs, doctors, filmmakers, scientists, writers, etc, etc.
Name one malay who is widely recognized around the world in his or her field. The only malay whose name might be recognized out of this country is Mahathir, and he is part Indian. Is malay culture recognized as a world renowned culture - no.
Malay culture, if cultures were ranked, would be close to the bottom. What is their culture compared to the great Chinese and Indian cultures that are centuries old and really rich! The Chinese and Indians have a 5000 years old history during which China and India have played a very important part in world history.
Nobody knew about malays until the Indian kings of south India first came here. That is why the oldest archeological remains in Malaysia, in Lembah Bujang, are Hindu temples.
The malay sultanate itself was started by a Hindu - Parameswara. And even at the height of its power, the Malacca sultanate was nothing more than a vassal of the Chinese emperor.
Have any malay architect designed anything worthwhile - no. Have any malay author won the Booker Prize or the Pulitzer Prize - no. Have any malay filmmaker won an Oscar - no. Have the malays achieved anything in sports - no.
Chinese and Indians have achieved all this. So there is no real Ketuanan Melayu. It is a fiction concocted by racist stupid politicians to keep the "kampung malays" happy thinking that they have had a glorious past.
They don't. Their history isn't worth mentioning. You would never find a mention of malays or Malaysia or Tanah Melayu in most books of world history while entire chapters are devoted to the history of China and India.
The discriminative constitution and law of Malaysia is just a recognition of this fact. The malay leaders and to every single malay knows that on a level playing field, the malays will never be able to compete with the Chinese and Indians.
Couldnt have worded it better myself, good job. Facts just speaks for itself, I dont think there is a neccesity to argue about it.
QUOTE(nasilemang @ Dec 25 2006, 06:10 AM) [snapback]2597983[/snapback]
^If you think chinese so great why you with 1.5 billion of your population need to worry much and need to prove anything to Malay with has number just less than 1% of you.
your english needs a jab in the arm. Cannot write properly...write in malay la bro...we also can understand and write malay well
QUOTE(malaysia is no future @ Dec 24 2006, 01:43 PM) [snapback]2596388[/snapback]
To me, Ketuanan Melayu is the false notion of malay greatness or malay supremacy. Truth is - there is nothing to associate the malay race with greatness.
By any widely accepted standards, it will be obvious to see that the malay race does not qualify to be called one of the great races of this world. Truth is that the Chinese and Indians have a culture accomplished far greater and much more than these jokers have.
well written indeed
Aku sokong Iron Malayan 
QUOTE(Betong @ Jan 11 2007, 03:51 PM) [snapback]2641906[/snapback]
Aku sokong Iron Malayan
most of us here nvr doubt you on that
Thank you..
QUOTE(Argos87 @ Jan 11 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]2641270[/snapback]
Couldnt have worded it better myself, good job. Facts just speaks for itself, I dont think there is a neccesity to argue about it.
U could not write anything than that bigot.Dude,u better ask around what that no future person wrote in this thread..the moderators had a tough job clean.
If u can't express urself and ride on this bigot's writings,something is wrong with u.
to no future person,
Do u really know what u are talking about.
Do u really have have the answers to the questions urself?I guess not since u are a shallowcoward.
U urself haven't desgned a building,won a booker prize, or won anything at all but u tease other people about it.What a loser.
BTW,try and reaserch who designed the Telekom Tower,the Putrajaya convention centre and the Saudi University
and the founder of Arab Malaysia Bank.
QUOTE(ricochet @ Jan 11 2007, 12:56 AM) [snapback]2641636[/snapback]
your english needs a jab in the arm. Cannot write properly...write in malay la bro...we also can understand and write malay well
well written indeed
To make it simple for you: chinese with number 1.5 billions (1 ouf of 4 of human in this world is chinese) hardly indigenously design and produce anything.
QUOTE(Bhaskara @ Jan 9 2007, 02:59 AM) [snapback]2636655[/snapback]
Parameswara=Javanese=Indonesian
bhaskara = dumbass
Jawa, Bajau, Bugis, Asli etc are Malay ethnics. That's why indonesia also participated in World Malays Conference. So stop being a dumbass.
*Ooooopsss* 
QUOTE(nasilemang @ Jan 16 2007, 10:25 PM) [snapback]2657662[/snapback]
To make it simple for you: chinese with number 1.5 billions (1 ouf of 4 of human in this world is chinese) hardly indigenously design and produce anything.
this is the list of hightech company founded by mostly chinsese/taiwanese american:
http://goldsea.com/Profiles/100/1st10.html
GOLDSEA 100
AMERICA'S TOP ASIAN ENTREPRENEURS
1st 10
1. Charles Wang
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Computer Associates International Inc
Business software services
2. Cyrus Tang
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Tang Industries
Metal fabricating; pharmaceuticals; office furniture
3. James J. Kim
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Amkor Technology Inc
Semiconductor packaging, wafer fabrication
4. James Chu
Founder/Chairman/CEO
ViewSonic Corporation
PC monitors
5. Bill Mow
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Bugle Boy Industries
Sportswear for men and boys
6. Tei Fu Chen & Oi Lin Chen
Co-founder/Chairman/CEO & Co-founder/President/COO
Sunrider International
Herbal foods, cosmetics and household products
7. John Tu
Co-founder/CEO
Kingston Technology Corp
Memory modules and other PC add-ons
8. Jerry Yang
Co-founder/Co-Chief Yahoo
Yahoo! Inc
Web Directory & Search Engine
9. Steve Kim
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Xylan Corporation
Routing hubs for corporate networks
10. Henry Yuen
Co-founder/Chairman/CEO
Gemstar International Group Ltd
System for simplified programming of VCRs
11. Victor Tsao/Janie Tsao
Co-Founders/Chairman/CFO
Linksys
Broadband and wireless networking routers and adapters
12. Pehong Chen
Founder/Chairman/CEO
BroadVision Inc
E-commerce software systems for personalized customer interaction
13. Bing Yeh
Founder/CEO
Silicon Storage Technology Inc
Memory-chip-based storage devices for PCs, game machines and cameras
14. Agnes Kim
Founder/Director
Electronics Boutique Holdings Corp
International chain of consumer electronics stores
15. Christine Liang
Founder/President
ASI Corporation
Distributor of PCs and components
16. Roger Chen
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Tawa Supermarket Inc
National supermarket chain selling Asian foods
17. John Chuang
Co-founder/Chairman/CEO
Aquent
International placement of consultants in creative fields
18. David Chu
Co-founder/President/Design Director
Nautica Enterprises Inc
Quality men's sportswear and international licensing of trademark
19. Bruce Yen
Founder/Chairman/CEO
DataExpert Corporation
Makes PC video-conferencing systems
20. Fred S L Chan
Founder/Chairman/CEO
ESS Technology Inc
Makes audio, video and fax/modem chips for PCs
21. Li San Hwang
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Tetra Tech Inc
Engineering and consulting for control of water contamination
22. Chong Moon Lee
Founder/Director
Diamond Multimedia
Components to enhance PC graphics and audio performance
23. Frankie Hong
Founder/Chairman
Proton Corporation
PC monitors, speakers, scanners, TV & hi-fi systems
24. Raymond C Lin
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Premisys Communications Inc
Network enhancement products for telecom providers
25. David S Lee
Chairman
CMC Industries Inc
Manufacturing services for OEMs supplying telecom and PC components
25. Stanley Wang
Founder/CEO
Pantronix Corporation
Assembler of semiconductors for aerospace, medical equipment and PC industries
27. Frank C Lin
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Trident Microsystems Inc
Makes graphics controllers and other multimedia components
27. Morris Chang
Chairman
Wyse Technology Inc
Makes thin-client terminals 29. Bruce Cheng
Chairman/CEO
Delta Products Corporation
Makes monitors, CD-ROM drives and other PC components
30. James Fang
Founder/Chairman
Supercom Inc
Wholesaler of PC components and tech support
31. Sam Chin
President
EFA Corp of America
Makes PC motherboards using AMD processors
32. Joanna Lau
Founder/President
Lau Technologies
Electronics for tanks; face-recognition systems for government and commercial uses
33. Li Pei Wu
Chairman/CEO
GBC Bancorp/General Bank
Retail bank catering to Asian immigrants 34. John Chen
Chairman/CEO/President
Sybase Inc
Corporate database and e-commerce software
35. Hsin-Yu Lin
President
Lynn Products Inc
PC connection cable assemblies
36. Sue Huang
Founder/President
Pengo Computer Accessories Inc
Floppy discs and plastic storage accessories for PC users
37. Simon Huang
Co-founder/CEO
CMD Technology Inc
Manufacturing connectors, controllers and interfaces for PC storage devices
38. Chi-Hung Duke Liao
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Liuski International
Makes backup systems and desktop, notebook PCs 39. Windred Wu
Co-founder/Chairman/CEO
WIN Laboratories
Makes PCs, servers and notebooks under contract to government agencies
40. B Hong Mah
Founder/CEO
LeeMah Corporation
Contract electronics assembly and remote access security products
41. M T Chang
C-founder/President
Quantex Microsystems Inc
Notebooks and desktop PCs sold through direct channels
42. Josie Cruz Natori
Founder/President
The Natori Company
Lingerie and evening fashion
43. Dominic Chang
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Family Golf Centers
National chain of family-oriented golf courses 44. Simon Chang
Chairman/CEO
CNet Technology Inc
Makes ethernet cards and switching hubs for telecom & internet
45. Cher Wang
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Everex Systems Inc
Makes workstations, notebooks and desktop PCs
46. Albert Chen
Founder/President
Potrans International Inc
Makes power supplies and adapters
47. Andrew Cherng
Founder/CEO
Panda Management Co
Chain of Chinese takeout restaurants
48. Steven Loui
Owner/President
Pacific Marine & Supply Co
Ship repair and environmental services 49. Masayuki Tokioka
Founder/Chairman
Island Insurance Co/National Mortgage & Finance
Insurance and financing services
50. John Hwang
Founder/President
Paradise Innovations Inc
Distributor of video cards, keyboards and touchpads
GOLDSEA 100
AMERICA'S 100 TOP ASIAN ENTREPRENEURS
6th 10
51. Henry Pao
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Supertex Inc
Hi-voltage integrated circuits and products for electronics makers
52. Rose Hwang
Founder/Chairman/President
Alpha Systems Lab Inc
Remote video systems for the security industry
53. Dunson K Cheng
Chairman/President
Cathay Bancorp/ Cathay Bank
Retail bank serving the Chinese American community 54. Arthur Chen
Founder/President
MidiLand Inc
Makes magnetically shielded, high-performance speakers
55. William Wang
Chairman/CEO
Princeton Graphics
Wholesales PC monitors to resellers
56. Theresa & J. J. Pan
Co-founders/Directors
E-Tek Dynamics Inc
Makes fiber optics products
57. HT Hayashi
Founder/Chairman
HTH Corporation
Owns and manages hotels and commercial properties
58. Bert Kobayashi
CEO/President
Kobayashi Inc
Construction contractors 59. Lilia Clemente
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Clemente Capital Inc
Manages investment funds focused on Asia and the Philippines
60. Chan Suh
Co-founder/Chairman/CEO
Agency.Com
Agency specializing in interactive advertising
61. Thinh Tran
Founder/Chairman
Sigma Design Inc
PC add-ons for games and other multimedia applications
62. Richard Cheng
Founder/CEO
ECI Systems & Engineering Inc
Computer systems integration, engineering and maintenance for government agencies
63. Steve Chen
Founder/President
U-Tron Technologies Inc
Makes multimedia PCs 64. Ching-I Hsu
President
Raritan Computer Inc
Makes switches for simultaneous connection to non-compatible computer systems
65. Symon Chang
CEO/President
TYAN Computer Corp
Makes high-performance dual-processor motherboards
66. Dominic Chan
Chairman
Peritus Software Services Inc
Computer-based productivy aids for software maintenance
67. Ken Fong
Founder/CEO
Clontech Laboratories Inc
Makes kits and solutions for biotech laboratories
68. Tae Yun Kim
Founder/CEO
Lighthouse Worldwide Solutions
Software-controlled systems and consulting for automated cleanroom monitoring 69. Edward Chiu
Founder/CEO
CSS Laboratories Inc
Makes servers, rackmount systems and workstations for government agencies
70. Vicky Hong
Co-owner/CEO
Jaton Corporation
Design and manufacture of multimedia and networking cards
71. Norman Fong
Co-Founder/CEO
Techbargains.com
Technology product shopping portal
72. Yong K Kim
Founder/CEO/President
User Technology Associates Inc
Computer systems deployment consulting to U.S. government agencies
73. Jen-Hsun Huang
Founder/CEO/President
NVidia Corporation
Makes chips to enhance PC multimedia performance 74. Emil Wang
Founder/President
Latitude Communications Inc
Remote video-conferencing systems
75. Jesse Lin
Founder/President
ProGen Technology Inc
Computer manufacturing services
76. John C C Fan
Founder/Chairman
Kopin Corp
Makes wafers for advanced ICs and ultra-compact flat-panel displays
77. Brendan Chen
Founder/President
EMAX International Inc
Makes digital point-of-sale display devices
78. Edmund Y Sun
Co-Founder/Chairman/CEO
Digital Video Systems Inc
Maker of hi-speed DVD drives 79. Charley Shin
Founder/CEO
Chaley's Steakery
Franchisor of fast-food restaurants specializing in Philadelphia cheesesteak sandwiches
80. Joe Chung
Chairman
Art Technology Group
Corporate online business systems and services
GOLDSEA 100
AMERICA'S 100 TOP ASIAN ENTREPRENEURS
10th 10
91. Shoji Tabuchi
Founder/President
Shoji Entertainment Inc
Owns and stars in Shoji Tabuchi Theater in Branson, MO
92. S J Kim
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Computer Technology Link Inc
Value-added reseller of PC-based workstations and servers
93. Vera Wang
Founder/President
Vera Wang Bridal House
Designs sophisticated wedding dresses and evening fashion 94. Phillip Hwang
Founder/CEO
Televideo Systems Inc
Makes graphic accelerators and video add-on boards
95. Chong Lee
Founder/President
Lee Laser Inc
Makes pulsed Nd:YAG lasers for OEMs
96. Galinda Wang
Founder/President
La Chine Classics
Makes inexpensive blouses for mass market
97. Steve Lam
Chairman/CEO
OR Technology Inc
Develops high-capacity floppy drives and discs
98. Nancy Chang
Founder/Chairman/CEO
Tanox Biosystems Inc
Develops monoclonal antibody-based therapies for HIV, asthma and allergies 99. Byung-Il Ham
Founder/President
US Energy Technologies Inc
Develops energy-efficient, low-maintenance lighting products
100. Wilson Wong
Co-Founder/Chairman/CEO
Asante Technologies Inc
Makes Ethernet and fast-Ethernet produ
QUOTE(nasilemang @ Dec 25 2006, 06:10 AM) [snapback]2597983[/snapback]
^If you think chinese so great why you with 1.5 billion of your population need to worry much and need to prove anything to Malay with has number just less than 1% of you.
i am curious.....so what did malay produce or invented huh?
QUOTE(ricochet @ Feb 16 2007, 08:35 AM) [snapback]2727754[/snapback]
i am curious.....so what did malay produce or invented huh?
alibaba biz
QUOTE(Sylar @ Feb 15 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]2727740[/snapback]
this is the list of hightech company founded by mostly chinsese/taiwanese american:
http://goldsea.com/Profiles/100/1st10.html
GOLDSEA 100
AMERICA'S TOP ASIAN ENTREPRENEURS
Your list are Asian American companies in America, anyone can build their own company. Around 20% of your list are not even chinese.
Here are the list of Malaysian company, about 20 of them are chinese owned the rest are Malay owned and managed by Malays.
* AirAsia
* Astro
* Berjaya Group
* Boustead
* BSA Manufacturing
* Bursa Malaysia
* Celcom
* DIGI
* DK Leather
* DRB-HICOM
* EON
* Eyfocus
* Gamuda
* Genting Group
* Golden Hope
* Guthrie
* Hong Leong Group
* i-Chem Solution Sdn Bhd
* IOI Group
* Jaring
* Jobstreet
* KTM
* Kinta Kellas
* Khazanah Nasional (Government holding company)
* KLCC Properties
* Lam Eng Rubber
* Lion Group
* Maybank
* Malaysia Airlines
* MISC
* Maxis
* Media Prima Berhad
* MIMOS
* MUI Group
* NAZA Group
* Netccentric
* OYL Industries Berhad
* Pensonic
* Perodua
* Perwaja Steel
* Petronas
* Proton
* Public Bank
* Resort World
* Royal Selangor
* Salient Synergy
* Scientex Incorporated Berhad
* Sime Darby
* Southern Bank Berhad
* Sunway
* Supermax
* Tanjong
* Tenaga Nasional
* TM
* TSH Ekowood
* Uchi Technologies Berhad
* VADS
* YTL
QUOTE(ricochet @ Feb 15 2007, 07:35 PM) [snapback]2727754[/snapback]
i am curious.....so what did malay produce or invented huh?
For sure Malay produce much better and worthed than chinese. Malay with number only 1% of chinese succesfully put 17 companies in the top 100 of companies from Muslim world last year. Company such as Petronas, Tenaga national, Sime Darby, Telekom Malaysia, Maybank Group, MAS and many more which ownned and managed by Malays are in about top 50 of the list.
And don't forget, Malays are the only people in Asia after Japanese and Korean who have designed and built car engines which pass euro emission test (Petronas and Proton company).
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Your list are Asian American companies in America, anyone can build their own company. Around 20% of your list are not even chinese.
how do you know whos not chinese and who is chinese on the list?
i know most of them are chinese by their surnameswhat about you?just guessing?
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Here are the list of Malaysian company, about 20 of them are chinese owned the rest are Malay owned and managed by Malays.
* AirAsia
* Astro
* Berjaya Group
* Boustead
* BSA Manufacturing
* Bursa Malaysia
* Celcom
* DIGI
* DK Leather
* DRB-HICOM
* EON
* Eyfocus
* Gamuda
* Genting Group
* Golden Hope
* Guthrie
* Hong Leong Group
* i-Chem Solution Sdn Bhd
* IOI Group
* Jaring
* Jobstreet
* KTM
* Kinta Kellas
* Khazanah Nasional (Government holding company)
* KLCC Properties
* Lam Eng Rubber
* Lion Group
* Maybank
* Malaysia Airlines
* MISC
* Maxis
* Media Prima Berhad
* MIMOS
* MUI Group
* NAZA Group
* Netccentric
* OYL Industries Berhad
* Pensonic
* Perodua
* Perwaja Steel
* Petronas
* Proton
* Public Bank
* Resort World
* Royal Selangor
* Salient Synergy
* Scientex Incorporated Berhad
* Sime Darby
* Southern Bank Berhad
* Sunway
* Supermax
* Tanjong
* Tenaga Nasional
* TM
* TSH Ekowood
* Uchi Technologies Berhad
* VADS
* YTL
* AirAsia
* Astro
* Berjaya Group
* Boustead
* BSA Manufacturing
* Bursa Malaysia
* Celcom
* DIGI
* DK Leather
* DRB-HICOM
* EON
* Eyfocus
* Gamuda
* Genting Group
* Golden Hope
* Guthrie
* Hong Leong Group
* i-Chem Solution Sdn Bhd
* IOI Group
* Jaring
* Jobstreet
* KTM
* Kinta Kellas
* Khazanah Nasional (Government holding company)
* KLCC Properties
* Lam Eng Rubber
* Lion Group
* Maybank
* Malaysia Airlines
* MISC
* Maxis
* Media Prima Berhad
* MIMOS
* MUI Group
* NAZA Group
* Netccentric
* OYL Industries Berhad
* Pensonic
* Perodua
* Perwaja Steel
* Petronas
* Proton
* Public Bank
* Resort World
* Royal Selangor
* Salient Synergy
* Scientex Incorporated Berhad
* Sime Darby
* Southern Bank Berhad
* Sunway
* Supermax
* Tanjong
* Tenaga Nasional
* TM
* TSH Ekowood
* Uchi Technologies Berhad
* VADS
* YTL
never heard of them ,internationaly.
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For sure Malay produce much better and worthed than chinese. Malay with number only 1% of chinese succesfully put 17 companies in the top 100 of companies from Muslim world last year. Company such as Petronas, Tenaga national, Sime Darby, Telekom Malaysia, Maybank Group, MAS and many more which ownned and managed by Malays are in about top 50 of the list.
chinse electronic companies beats them all
haier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haier
l
enovo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo_Group
Lenovo Group Limited (Chinese: 联想集团有限公司; pinyin: Liánxiǎng Jítuán Yǒuxiŕn Gōngsī), formerly known as Legend Group Ltd and New Technology Developer Incorporated (SEHK: 0992) is the largest Chinese personal computer manufacturer, the largest in the Asia-Pacific region as of 2006, and as of 2005 was the third largest in the world (ninth before its purchase of IBM's PC Division).[
Acer, asus, benQ,LiteOn are all well-known companies internationaly.
Companies founded by chinese
The following is a list of companies founded by Chinese or Chinese-Americans
Yahoo!, (US), computer services
NVIDIA , (US), semiconductors
ViewSonic, (US), monitors
YouTube, (US), computer services
Nautica, (US), clothing
Garmin, (US), GPS systems
the above companies are all household names,brands.
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And don't forget, Malays are the only people in Asia after Japanese and Korean who have designed and built car engines which pass euro emission test (Petronas and Proton company).
yet never seen a single proton or petronas cars outside of malasia.
car engines?the chinese are building space shutte engines.
,the chinese are the only people in asia who have been to the moon beside the americans and russians.
QUOTE(Sylar @ Feb 17 2007, 04:48 AM) [snapback]2730887[/snapback]
how do you know whos not chinese and who is chinese on the list?
i know most of them are chinese by their surnameswhat about you?just guessing?
never heard of them ,internationaly.
chinse electronic companies beats them all
haier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haier
l
enovo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo_Group
Lenovo Group Limited (Chinese: 联想集团有限公司; pinyin: Liánxiǎng Jítuán Yǒuxiŕn Gōngsī), formerly known as Legend Group Ltd and New Technology Developer Incorporated (SEHK: 0992) is the largest Chinese personal computer manufacturer, the largest in the Asia-Pacific region as of 2006, and as of 2005 was the third largest in the world (ninth before its purchase of IBM's PC Division).[
Acer, asus, benQ,LiteOn are all well-known companies internationaly.
Companies founded by chinese
The following is a list of companies founded by Chinese or Chinese-Americans
Yahoo!, (US), computer services
NVIDIA , (US), semiconductors
ViewSonic, (US), monitors
YouTube, (US), computer services
Nautica, (US), clothing
Garmin, (US), GPS systems
the above companies are all household names,brands.
yet never seen a single proton or petronas cars outside of malasia.
car engines?the chinese are building space shutte engines.
,the chinese are the only people in asia who have been to the moon beside the americans and russians. The Chinese population outnumbers the Malaysian population by about 50:1. That's not exactly a fair comparison.
QUOTE(Jagger @ Feb 17 2007, 07:00 PM) [snapback]2731398[/snapback]
The Chinese population outnumbers the Malaysian population by about 50:1. That's not exactly a fair comparison.
first there was a comparison but whn the chinese beat them up, now they say the comparison is not fair....how pathetic
anyway like badawi says....85% of govt contracts are sold to non bumis...I guess the success of malays depended on 85% of the non-bumis
QUOTE(ricochet @ Feb 20 2007, 08:59 AM) [snapback]2736844[/snapback]
first there was a comparison but whn the chinese beat them up, now they say the comparison is not fair....how pathetic
anyway like badawi says....85% of govt contracts are sold to non bumis...I guess the success of malays depended on 85% of the non-bumis
this is what we call alibaba biz created by malay
A simple example - Singapore have a much smaller population than malaysia,mostly chinese like about 70%.And Malaysia with all the reservations of civil jobs and advantages in the education to the malays,seems to be able to only have that "much" of accomplishment. Rofl and Singapore started out from scratch in 1965.If you wanna compare the 1.5 billion chinese,why not compare yourself with the 2.8 million chinese here ?And for your info the population in China is 1.3 billion 
.Just accept it,and the thing is,everyone is equal in singapore and it seems like the chinese proved thier worth in the fair competition.
.Just accept it,and the thing is,everyone is equal in singapore and it seems like the chinese proved thier worth in the fair competition.
QUOTE(OoJaJaoO @ Feb 25 2007, 08:51 PM) [snapback]2749616[/snapback]
A simple example - Singapore have a much smaller population than malaysia,mostly chinese like about 70%.And Malaysia with all the reservations of civil jobs and advantages in the education to the malays,seems to be able to only have that "much" of accomplishment. Rofl and Singapore started out from scratch in 1965.If you wanna compare the 1.5 billion chinese,why not compare yourself with the 2.8 million chinese here ?And for your info the population in China is 1.3 billion
.Just accept it,and the thing is,everyone is equal in singapore and it seems like the chinese proved thier worth in the fair competition.Hey....I got suporter from SG lei...hey welcome to Malaysia AF
Of course lah we tong bao mah lol
Guys
Since some of you live in Singapore, do you know anything about Ong Tjoe Kim who founded Metro Holdings. He is 98 years old and still working.
http://www.metro.com.sg/storefront/Content...p?ContentId=510
Listed on the Singapore stock exchange since 1973, Metro Holdings was founded by its chairman Ong Tjoe Kim in 1957, who hailed from Indonesia, at the age of 49. The business started out as a textile store at a two-storey shophouse on 72 High Street, where the Treasury Building now sits. A movie buff, Mr Ong named the store after Hollywood studio Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM).
Since some of you live in Singapore, do you know anything about Ong Tjoe Kim who founded Metro Holdings. He is 98 years old and still working.
http://www.metro.com.sg/storefront/Content...p?ContentId=510
Listed on the Singapore stock exchange since 1973, Metro Holdings was founded by its chairman Ong Tjoe Kim in 1957, who hailed from Indonesia, at the age of 49. The business started out as a textile store at a two-storey shophouse on 72 High Street, where the Treasury Building now sits. A movie buff, Mr Ong named the store after Hollywood studio Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM).
Ya lah,those few malay billionaires listed was a joke,nothing more.
QUOTE(SoCal @ Feb 26 2007, 04:59 AM) [snapback]2750289[/snapback]
Guys
Since some of you live in Singapore, do you know anything about Ong Tjoe Kim who founded Metro Holdings. He is 98 years old and still working.
http://www.metro.com.sg/storefront/Content...p?ContentId=510
Listed on the Singapore stock exchange since 1973, Metro Holdings was founded by its chairman Ong Tjoe Kim in 1957, who hailed from Indonesia, at the age of 49. The business started out as a textile store at a two-storey shophouse on 72 High Street, where the Treasury Building now sits. A movie buff, Mr Ong named the store after Hollywood studio Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM).
sorry bro...never heard of him
Firstly.. u cant compare chinese with malays.. because the chinese are much more civilised than other races.. all the brilliant philosophy, methods and culture from their ancestors were still being practised till today.. and i think that is the key for their achievement.. so is to other races, look at their culture and what their religion advocate to..
Its stupid to say such thing as u made a conclusion based on a situation without taking points on what affects it.
Its stupid to say such thing as u made a conclusion based on a situation without taking points on what affects it.
QUOTE(fadlee @ Feb 27 2007, 12:05 AM) [snapback]2752078[/snapback]
Firstly.. u cant compare chinese with malays.. because the chinese are much more civilised than other races.. all the brilliant philosophy, methods and culture from their ancestors were still being practised till today.. and i think that is the key for their achievement.. so is to other races, look at their culture and what their religion advocate to..
Its stupid to say such thing as u made a conclusion based on a situation without taking points on what affects it.
juz something to add when talking about the chinese business principles. Chinese believe in helping each other in their clanship but trust and integrity is one important thing the chinese believe mostly. You need to show to them that you are the man of your words, you are to show your true honesty, integrity and dedication.
Only then you will be accepted by the community. Once trust is established, doing business is fairly easy. Chinese work within their network and everybody know each other and they work really hard and nothing is spare. They strongly believe in good fortune and luck and sometimes they over do it
They believe everything has to be in moderation and there are only occassions that their fortunes are being publicised.
Indian and Malays unfortunately..... sadly but true are less hardworking and they forget their roots when they are up there of being somebody. Fortunately in Malaysia, being the majority, Malays are being helped by the govt but the Indian are left with no helping hand
This is my take and my personal opinion and not trying to pick a fight with anyone. It is also based on my experience in dealing with each ethnicity.
Mr ricochet, from your word seem that u never read the history of malaysia. I suggest that u better read it from early time during the british era , emergency era, malaysian independene k. think before make any statement at all k.
QUOTE(malayspirit @ Feb 28 2007, 11:21 PM) [snapback]2756865[/snapback]
Mr ricochet, from your word seem that u never read the history of malaysia. I suggest that u better read it from early time during the british era , emergency era, malaysian independene k. think before make any statement at all k.
ok la kau pandai aku bodoh.....dun want to fight with you. I am juz saying the scenario of the present situation
you think I wrong....so be it
its true what mr rico said.. i think most malays would agree with this.. or maybe the right word to describe they just like to live in a decent life?
not sure bout the chinese or the indians bytheway..
not sure bout the chinese or the indians bytheway..
QUOTE(fadlee @ Mar 1 2007, 07:08 AM) [snapback]2757528[/snapback]
its true.. i think most malays would agree with this.. or maybe the right word to describe they just like to live in a decent life?
not sure bout the chinese or the indians bytheway..
I see from my very eyes of the situation everywhere...
Malays.....once they reach where they wanted.....they will be satisfied
Indians .....there are some who wants to be better than malays like being a lawyer, doctors and so forth....and they stops there
Malays and Indian....very few of them look back at their roots and help those who are in needs.
Chinese.....although they have reached higher than anybody else....they are still not satisfied...money is God... ever see many ah pek drives a continental car with torn white pagoda t-shirt with shorts and sandal??
But the beauty with the chinese clanship is that...they help each other provided you have established trust within the clanship
my 2 cents worth
QUOTE(ricochet @ Mar 1 2007, 07:24 AM) [snapback]2757548[/snapback]
I see from my very eyes of the situation everywhere...
Malays.....once they reach where they wanted.....they will be satisfied
Indians .....there are some who wants to be better than malays like being a lawyer, doctors and so forth....and they stops there
Malays and Indian....very few of them look back at their roots and help those who are in needs.
Chinese.....although they have reached higher than anybody else....they are still not satisfied...money is God... ever see many ah pek drives a continental car with torn white pagoda t-shirt with shorts and sandal??
But the beauty with the chinese clanship is that...they help each other provided you have established trust within the clanship
my 2 cents worth
QUOTE(OoJaJaoO @ Feb 25 2007, 07:51 AM) [snapback]2749616[/snapback]
A simple example - Singapore have a much smaller population than malaysia,mostly chinese like about 70%.And Malaysia with all the reservations of civil jobs and advantages in the education to the malays,seems to be able to only have that "much" of accomplishment. Rofl and Singapore started out from scratch in 1965.If you wanna compare the 1.5 billion chinese,why not compare yourself with the 2.8 million chinese here ?And for your info the population in China is 1.3 billion .Just accept it,and the thing is,everyone is equal in singapore and it seems like the chinese proved thier worth in the fair competition.
.Just accept it,and the thing is,everyone is equal in singapore and it seems like the chinese proved thier worth in the fair competition.Almost half of China population are below poverty line according to western standard. Access to sanitation and access to public utilities such as water in many part of China even in big cities slump area just not far difference with Sub-Saharan African countries. You can do your homework and check the same stats for Malaysian.
Singapore? ...well this island in 1965 already had British infrastructure, management and ruling legacy well in tact and strategically located in busy strait beside It just small city state with less future to grow. Actually the praisal should go to Brunei have built something from scratch.
QUOTE(nasilemang @ May 16 2007, 12:39 AM) [snapback]2947064[/snapback]
Almost half of China population are below poverty line according to western standard. Access to sanitation and access to public utilities such as water in many part of China even in big cities slump area just not far difference with Sub-Saharan African countries. You can do your homework and check the same stats for Malaysian.
Singapore? ...well this island in 1965 already had British infrastructure, management and ruling legacy well in tact and strategically located in busy strait beside It just small city state with less future to grow. Actually the praisal should go to Brunei have built something from scratch.
Singapore? ...well this island in 1965 already had British infrastructure, management and ruling legacy well in tact and strategically located in busy strait beside It just small city state with less future to grow. Actually the praisal should go to Brunei have built something from scratch.
It shouldn't be about race it should be about nationality, the topic starter is a racist and a bigot who has been banned from this site because of his bigotry. Malaysians should be proud that there are Malaysian billionaires be they Chinese Indian or Malay. Having said that, it saddens me that there are people with so much wealth in Malaysia when there are so many people below the poverty line who can't afford basic health care. I think Malaysians should be more proud if they can eradicate poverty.
QUOTE(ricochet @ Mar 1 2007, 04:54 AM) [snapback]2757548[/snapback]
I see from my very eyes of the situation everywhere...
Indians .....there are some who wants to be better than malays like being a lawyer, doctors and so forth....and they stops there
Malays and Indian....very few of them look back at their roots and help those who are in needs.
Indians .....there are some who wants to be better than malays like being a lawyer, doctors and so forth....and they stops there
Malays and Indian....very few of them look back at their roots and help those who are in needs.
Most of the Indians in Malaysia are ethnic Tamils. There are also Tamils from Srilanka in large numbers in Malaysia. Tamils are not known for their business acumen, most of them prefer a job rather than setting up a business. I have heard that there are some Punjabis and Gujaratis in trace amounts in Malaysia. These Punjabis and Gujaratis do business there.
QUOTE(nasilemang @ May 16 2007, 12:39 AM) [snapback]2947064[/snapback]
Almost half of China population are below poverty line according to western standard. Access to sanitation and access to public utilities such as water in many part of China even in big cities slump area just not far difference with Sub-Saharan African countries. You can do your homework and check the same stats for Malaysian.
Singapore? ...well this island in 1965 already had British infrastructure, management and ruling legacy well in tact and strategically located in busy strait beside It just small city state with less future to grow. Actually the praisal should go to Brunei have built something from scratch.
Singapore? ...well this island in 1965 already had British infrastructure, management and ruling legacy well in tact and strategically located in busy strait beside It just small city state with less future to grow. Actually the praisal should go to Brunei have built something from scratch.
Half of the population ?? Where did you get ur figure from m8 ? Well from this western source, it is only 10% of the population
http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/china/china_economy.html
And Malaysia is not that far away with 8 %
http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/malaysi...ia_economy.html
And all these figures come from a so called western source called CIA factbook.
And can you please show us some picture of China's slums ?
QUOTE(02tonyl @ May 18 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]2952627[/snapback]
Half of the population ?? Where did you get ur figure from m8 ? Well from this western source, it is only 10% of the population
Any countries can give out data about their poverty rate and make themself feeling better, but we can draw conclution by looking at Population living on less than $2/day, as you can see China account at rate 47% living less than $2/day.
http://earthtrends.wri.org/povlinks/country/china.php
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And Malaysia is not that far away with 8 %
http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/malaysi...ia_economy.html
And all these figures come from a so called western source called CIA factbook.
http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/malaysi...ia_economy.html
And all these figures come from a so called western source called CIA factbook.
Your data is old it was 1998, Malays already progressing rapidly, beside standard of living and Quality living benchmark of Malaysia much higher than China hence the poverty definition would be hgher threshold than China
It is difficult to find poverty rate of Malaysia currently because it is close to 0 < 2%, even by looking at population living on less than $2/day, Malaysia rate account only 9.3% of population.
http://uk.oneworld.net/guides/malaysia/development
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And can you please show us some picture of China's slums ?
Half of population of 1.3 billion living below poverty rate (less than 2%), I don't bother wih pictures.
QUOTE(nasilemang @ May 20 2007, 11:11 PM) [snapback]2956845[/snapback]
Any countries can give out data about their poverty rate and make themself feeling better, but we can draw conclution by looking at Population living on less than $2/day, as you can see China account at rate 47% living less than $2/day.
http://earthtrends.wri.org/povlinks/country/china.php
Your data is old it was 1998, Malays already progressing rapidly, beside standard of living and Quality living benchmark of Malaysia much higher than China hence the poverty definition would be hgher threshold than China
It is difficult to find poverty rate of Malaysia currently because it is close to 0 < 2%, even by looking at population living on less than $2/day, Malaysia rate account only 9.3% of population.
http://uk.oneworld.net/guides/malaysia/development
Half of population of 1.3 billion living below poverty rate (less than 2%), I don't bother wih pictures.
http://earthtrends.wri.org/povlinks/country/china.php
Your data is old it was 1998, Malays already progressing rapidly, beside standard of living and Quality living benchmark of Malaysia much higher than China hence the poverty definition would be hgher threshold than China
It is difficult to find poverty rate of Malaysia currently because it is close to 0 < 2%, even by looking at population living on less than $2/day, Malaysia rate account only 9.3% of population.
http://uk.oneworld.net/guides/malaysia/development
Half of population of 1.3 billion living below poverty rate (less than 2%), I don't bother wih pictures.
Its difficult to use the Western standard for definition of poverty and apply it effectively to the world. US$2 perday in Aust wouldn't get you anywhere, US$2 per day in Malaysia would get you further and US$2 in China would get you further still. Furthermore most factory workers in China get paid very little maybe even less then $2 per day but, accomodation and food are provided by their employers. Farmers would earn less then US$2 per day but would be self sufficient in terms of food. I personally think a better measure of poverty would be your income relative to your ability to feed, house and cloth yourself, basic necessities of living.
Standard of living and quality living benchmarks are not a reflection of poverty levels.
Besides who cares what poverty levels in China are, levels in Malaysia are the only ones that matter. Furthermore if you want to compare China as a reflection of the Chinese in Malaysia, then perhaps a better comparison would be China and the indiginous people of the Indonesian archapeligo rather then the Malays in Malaysia.
QUOTE(nasilemang @ May 20 2007, 11:11 PM) [snapback]2956845[/snapback]
Any countries can give out data about their poverty rate and make themself feeling better, but we can draw conclution by looking at Population living on less than $2/day, as you can see China account at rate 47% living less than $2/day.
http://earthtrends.wri.org/povlinks/country/china.php
Your data is old it was 1998, Malays already progressing rapidly, beside standard of living and Quality living benchmark of Malaysia much higher than China hence the poverty definition would be hgher threshold than China
It is difficult to find poverty rate of Malaysia currently because it is close to 0 < 2%, even by looking at population living on less than $2/day, Malaysia rate account only 9.3% of population.
http://uk.oneworld.net/guides/malaysia/development
Half of population of 1.3 billion living below poverty rate (less than 2%), I don't bother wih pictures.
http://earthtrends.wri.org/povlinks/country/china.php
Your data is old it was 1998, Malays already progressing rapidly, beside standard of living and Quality living benchmark of Malaysia much higher than China hence the poverty definition would be hgher threshold than China
It is difficult to find poverty rate of Malaysia currently because it is close to 0 < 2%, even by looking at population living on less than $2/day, Malaysia rate account only 9.3% of population.
http://uk.oneworld.net/guides/malaysia/development
Half of population of 1.3 billion living below poverty rate (less than 2%), I don't bother wih pictures.
I have no ideas whom the thread is trying to compare with. Chinese vs Malays in Malaysia, Malays vs Chinese in Malaysia, Chinese vs Malaysians, or ...?
I am not particularly interested in the original discussion. The richness of billionaires (Malays or Chinese, in Malaysia or elsewhere) can't tell much about many pictures of any particular country with a great population (as in China or Malaysia), especially when such a country is quite divided or unbalanced economically. For most countries in the world, China is too populous country to compare with.
Your data about China is even more dated.
http://earthtrends.wri.org/povlinks/povert...esource_ID=2088
They are about 1996, before the Asia economic crises of 1998-1999. China was the least affected by the crisis among the closedly related sizeable economies there. It helped to combat that crisis. Its growth rate averaged about 9-10% since 1996.
See this chart?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Prc1952-2005gdp.gif
It has had years of nation wide "wiping out poverty" campaign by the central government. Its norminal GDP per capita was only about $695 in 1996 (source: World Bank), but it was estimated to be about $2000 in 2006. See the percentage change? Since last year, dollars are falling, and the Chinese currency is rising. So, the norminal GDP per capita should have another great year. And China should be #3 economy in the world by now. $2 should be upgraded to $6 today (if everything else had been unchanged). However, purchaching Power is a better measurement than DP...
http://earthtrends.wri.org/text/economics-...riable-638.html
(Notice that Malaysia only recovered to the 1996 level around 2005, by the same measure: GDP per capita.)
About Malaysia poverty:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_Malaysia
Got NEP, you complain! Abolish NEP, you make noise!
Become Ali Baba, you lament! Ask you to work hard, you don't want!
And you keep on blaming other communities for everything!
"Pathetic" is the word my malay friends!
Become Ali Baba, you lament! Ask you to work hard, you don't want!
And you keep on blaming other communities for everything!
"Pathetic" is the word my malay friends!
QUOTE(OoJaJaoO @ Feb 25 2007, 07:51 AM) [snapback]2749616[/snapback]
If you wanna compare the 1.5 billion chinese,why not compare yourself with the 2.8 million chinese here ?
Sure, no problem.
How many engines have the 3.5 million chinese singaporeans desigend ? Zero
How many car engines have the 23 million taiwanese desigend ? Zero.
In comparison the 13 million malays already have engineered 2 car engines plus another one for small bike
lol.. if your self worth and national pride is only linked to the number of engines you designed, then i think you are pathetic. its bad enough comparing your country to singapore, why disgrace yourself further by comparing with taiwan?
ok...ok....sekarang nak cakap dalam bahasa melayu. (i translate them just below of this text - sorry, i think my english is quite broken)...apa pun. sebenarnya aku mesti cakap, cina mmg hebat. dlm Islam pun, ada pepatah berbunyi "BELAJAR BIAR SAMPAI KE NEGARA CHINA". Memang, tapi kita tak boleh nak menafikan kemunculan syarikat dan billionaire melayu kat Malaysia dan dunia.
Ttg syrkt2 mcm Proton, Air-Asia dan lain2. Kalau tak pernah dengar sangat tentang Proton dekat luar negara nampak sangat BODOH. kalau nak lebih lanjut baca nie http://isuhangat.blogspot.com/search?q=proton
dia maklumkan di UK, Proton sangat popular. (bkan nak kutuk, tapi Mr Bean pun ada kereta Proton saga. aaa, kalau korang telepas pandang NASIB LAAA) anyway, mmg syarikat kita nampak kecil, tapi perlahan2 dia akan membesar dan semua org akan nampak. Tengok Lotus dah join Proton
So, renung2kan lah ek....
(Translation) ok, firstly, i must say that Chinese are a great people, n China is a great Nation. Even US is afraid of them. Even in Islam, there is a saying, "Learn until u can go to China". However, we cannot ignore the Malay companies and billionaires in Malaysia n in the world.
It is quite an silly n ignorance person for someone to not know about Proton, Air Asia company. read more at http://isuhangat.blogspot.com/search?q=proton
there, an indian guy who has a friend at UK, told that Proton is very popular there (not to say, but even in Mr.Bean, there was a Proton Saga.
)
Even Lotus had joined venture with Proton
Think about it
Ttg syrkt2 mcm Proton, Air-Asia dan lain2. Kalau tak pernah dengar sangat tentang Proton dekat luar negara nampak sangat BODOH. kalau nak lebih lanjut baca nie http://isuhangat.blogspot.com/search?q=proton
dia maklumkan di UK, Proton sangat popular. (bkan nak kutuk, tapi Mr Bean pun ada kereta Proton saga. aaa, kalau korang telepas pandang NASIB LAAA) anyway, mmg syarikat kita nampak kecil, tapi perlahan2 dia akan membesar dan semua org akan nampak. Tengok Lotus dah join Proton
So, renung2kan lah ek....
(Translation) ok, firstly, i must say that Chinese are a great people, n China is a great Nation. Even US is afraid of them. Even in Islam, there is a saying, "Learn until u can go to China". However, we cannot ignore the Malay companies and billionaires in Malaysia n in the world.
It is quite an silly n ignorance person for someone to not know about Proton, Air Asia company. read more at http://isuhangat.blogspot.com/search?q=proton
there, an indian guy who has a friend at UK, told that Proton is very popular there (not to say, but even in Mr.Bean, there was a Proton Saga.
)Even Lotus had joined venture with Proton
Think about it
QUOTE(cokmfz @ Dec 13 2007, 03:02 AM) [snapback]3365042[/snapback]
It is quite an silly n ignorance person for someone to not know about Proton, Air Asia company. read more at http://isuhangat.blogspot.com/search?q=proton
there, an indian guy who has a friend at UK, told that Proton is very popular there (not to say, but even in Mr.Bean, there was a Proton Saga.)
Even Lotus had joined venture with Proton
Think about it
there, an indian guy who has a friend at UK, told that Proton is very popular there (not to say, but even in Mr.Bean, there was a Proton Saga.
)Even Lotus had joined venture with Proton
Think about it
I don't want to get into a which race is better then the other but, I think you made a few mistakes. From memory, I think Air Asia is owned by an Indian. And I think Lotus is owned by Proton or at least was owned by Proton, so I don't think it was a voluntary joint venture anyway. A positive note though is that in their newer cars Proton has incorporated technology from Lotus. The not so good news is that Lotus hasn't been doing well because their technology and quality control has lagged behind their main rivals. I think maybe even Proton has sold Lotus already.
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